Your comment is what's wrong with people. Always assuming that if your in the right you have no worries, well I can tell you that's a false sense of security you have there my friend and you need to re-calibrate your life.Originally Posted by bsh
American Bedoo
Your comment is what's wrong with people. Always assuming that if your in the right you have no worries, well I can tell you that's a false sense of security you have there my friend and you need to re-calibrate your life.
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Ive had this argument with a co worker a few times. He thought cops should be able to search your house if they wanted without a search warrant and as long as you were not doing anything wrong nothing would happen.
I explained to him that is what the citizens in Nazi Germany were told also when their houses were being searched. Read some of the reports of what happened to them. He might change his tune after he was beat up, wife, kids raped, anything of value stolen. It happens, not all the time but a lot more than it should have and once they get the power trip it only gets worse.
My daughter and her BF recently got pulled over on a road trip in another state. They were driving my car. She called me because she said the cop was acting weird and on a power trip, being rude for no reason. Her BF was taken back to the police car and had been there for 15 minutes for no apparent reason. I told her to start recording.
About 10 minutes later she called me back and said the cop had just walked up to her window and tried snatching the phone out of her hand so she called me. I told her to put it on speaker. I identified myself and asked why he was trying to take the phone. He said he was going to search the car because they were being suspicious and she was not allowed to take the phone out of the car.
I told him he was not allowed to physically take the phone from her or stop her from recording the event. He said he could and asked if I knew Montana law? I said I know the supreme court law just ruled in June 2014, Police officers may not confiscate or demand to view your digital photographs or video without a warrant. He said he was not going to argue law with me. I said thats good because I am not arguing, only stating they if what he is saying to me is not accurate I will be filing an official complaint.
Unfortunatly they used the typical scare tactics on my daughter and her BF and told them if they did not authorize a drug dog to check out the car they would impound it. They said another cop showed up with a dog and the dog just walked around the car never doing anything until the cop taped on the car and the dog reacted by pawing the car. Of course this was the sign the dog detected something.
Her and her BF recorded everything (cops let her keep her phone. lol) and after tearing the car apart for about 1hr found nothing. Never even ticket them for anything, Now see this is the BS that gives cops a bad name when it comes to younger people. I had a couple similar run in when I was younger cops giving me total attitude and acting like I had done something wrong when I hadn't.
No they are not all bad and I dont think most are or racist but there are to many who are who are ruining it for the good ones. I wont trust them, that's for sure.
Grade A Beef
My son and some friends were stopped for drinking redbull. They were detained while additional units showed up. Cops abuse their power all the time and something needs to be done about it.
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I dont get it. What's wrong with a cop saying to the kids Ohh Ok it's only red bulls. Great guys, have a good night and keep it safe. Then the kids would have some respect for the cops and see he was only doing his job but NO, he/they had to make a big deal of nothing and try to intimidate them even though they did nothing.
Makes no sense, kids grow into adults and remember this sh*t, it doesnt make them or scare them into being law abiding citizens when they have dont nothing wrong in the 1st place.
I still remember the 1st cop who pulled me over and wrote me a ticket for street racing and reckless driving. No, all I did was driving my buddies car for the 1st time with power brakes (1970s Tbird) and I was use to a 1970 Chevy Vega with manual brakes. First red light I came to I put on the brakes and the car locked up the tires and skidded. 65 Mustang in the next lane did a smoke show when the light turned green (kids cruising area) and cop pulled me over instead of the Mustang because it was gone.
Ahole cop had 3 other cruisers there in seconds and tried to intimidate me. When I went to court the cop blatantly lied about what happened and what I said to him. Officer Ludwell.... cost me my license for 6 months and who knows how much it cost me on insurance. Someday.....
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You know exactly why it can't be that way. Years ago i'm sure they were able to do that and DID do that on numerous occassions. But now everything is more documented and organized, and there are cameras everywhere. Back then when they could tell somebody to not do it again and have a good night, with the modern day kids/young adults that would NEVER WORK these days. They would turn right around and do what they were told not to, and then the cop would look bad for not stopping them when they should have. It's a loss/loss..The cop gets in trouble, AND the kids get in trouble + the damage they did..
Now adays a kid could just beat the hell out of somebody and if you didn't arrest them and just roughed them up and told them to not do it again or you'd kick their ass they would probably have the nerve to sue you so that can't be done anymore either...There are no other options anymore they're all stressed out..This is not a newly developed system that was made 10 years ago alot of things have already been tried and it's not gonna get any better the lovely president has installed more cameras around towns specifically made to see police brutality as if that's the biggest concern rather than the most documented, and most interesting/eye-catching to the public.
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Do what? They were not doing anything wrong but the cop still had to make an issue out of nothing? Thats what I dont get. I have had cops go far out of there way to try to prove someone or me did something wrong when there wasnt anything.
Just like another time (actually twice) ive had a cop try to blame me for an accident when it was obvious it wasnt my fault even to the point where the other party involved had to come up and say to the cop WTF are you doing? I already told you it was 100% my fault, not his? The cop just got pissed and said FINE and stormed off. What the hell???
Grade A Beef
Agreed but that's not the state of law enforcement in certain areas. It starts at the top. A good Chief, Sherriff, etc then the department generally is good.
American Bedoo
We had a Sheriff that was on a major power trip in Okaloosa County Florida for years and he would break the law and allow his deputies break the law just to arrest or ticket someone. Then the great news. Sheriff Charlie Morris and his 7 main dipshits were indicted on federal charges for taking money and various other civil right violations.
The sad thing is they only got 4 fvcking years for a crime that would have ended with decades of incarceration for any of us.
I hate shlt bag cops, and absolutely respect the good ones. All it takes is one to give a bad name for the others.
American Bedoo
Cops shouldn't even question anyone unless they have reasonable articulated suspicion that a crime has been or is being committed. Simply detaining someone for a Redbull is a civil rights violation. Pure power trip. Most of the bad cops were the dipshits that were picked on in high school, college and or were failures at everything else in life. So to boost their ego they hide their insecurities behind a damn badge.
VET
Same here! When I moved outside of Philly - in a smaller town - the cops were notorious for this! I'd be walking back from WaWa at like midnight(right around the corner) but every time a cop drove by - stopped got out searched me(I always let em)... But it never fails, they did this every time a younger kid was walking late at night(b/c they could)
Long story short I pressed charges for illegal search/violation of my rights(didn't get caught w/anything) but it happened so often(they certainly do a use they're power - not all but most - in my experiences) that I called a lawyer and needless to say this cop had a bad repore doing this often - he lost his badge!
But I agree w/the above(obviously) like they have nothing better to do than Fvk w/people - if they were cops in the city that shit wouldn't even come about! Their the ones who give the good cops a bad name!
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