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    UPDATE: Stopping my Aromasin 12.5 EOD........ I am running 20mg of Nolvadex Daily.
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    I punched 3 1/2 cc test e,tren e and mast e in the quad today no pip took 3 minutes start to finish.

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    Nicked a vein today, bruised me up. Whatevs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clove1234 View Post
    Nicked a vein today, bruised me up. Whatevs
    Jeez you are getting messed up constantly lol.......

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    Haven’t had many issues except for some pip, today is the first time I’ve bled at all. Hot shower seems to take care of all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clove1234 View Post
    Haven’t had many issues except for some pip, today is the first time I’ve bled at all. Hot shower seems to take care of all of it.
    no offense to you Clove.. I'm just using this post to make a point

    But I've seen in numerous threads recently from various members on here all talking about taking hot baths, showers, etc. after pinning gear. plus this whole drawn out process of heating the gear up and then massaging in the injection area after.. maybe a hot towel treatment on the spot .

    WTF is all this LOL .

    yesterday I pinned 3cc in my left lat, 2cc in my right lat and 2cc in my right delt,, and then this morning 3cc in my left front delt and 1cc in my bicep.

    there was no warming up the gear, or massaging, or showers or hot towels .. just pin all that shit in 2 mins and go hit the gym. heck I even bring pre loaded stuff to the gym with me to pin in the middle of a workout (again no hot showers in the middle of my workout just cause I pinned a bicep with some juice).

    guess I don't get why pinning is such a long drawn out process for some guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    no offense to you Clove.. I'm just using this post to make a point

    But I've seen in numerous threads recently from various members on here all talking about taking hot baths, showers, etc. after pinning gear. plus this whole drawn out process of heating the gear up and then massaging in the injection area after.. maybe a hot towel treatment on the spot .

    WTF is all this LOL .

    yesterday I pinned 3cc in my left lat, 2cc in my right lat and 2cc in my right delt,, and then this morning 3cc in my left front delt and 1cc in my bicep.

    there was no warming up the gear, or massaging, or showers or hot towels .. just pin all that shit in 2 mins and go hit the gym. heck I even bring pre loaded stuff to the gym with me to pin in the middle of a workout (again no hot showers in the middle of my workout just cause I pinned a bicep with some juice).

    guess I don't get why pinning is such a long drawn out process for some guys


    I pin before I shower in the morning, I heat the gear with a hair dryer for 10 seconds and inject. If I injected 3cc's into any muscle I'd be in severe pain, this is my first cycle lol. I see pip as not enjoyable, even though knock on wood I haven't experienced it. If I can steer clear of Pip on my first cycle to enjoy the gains more then I see no issue with taking an extra step or two. I mean if you are so quick to pin why use alcohol pads and why aspirate, just shoot and go, I can play devils advocate for days here lol. You use alcohol pads to prevent infection, I use heat to prevent pain and its absorbed into the muscle quicker......everything has a reason.........and clove's muscle mass is non existent so that's why I think he is having constant issues, smaller muscles, less muscle to absorb the compound and less area to spread your veins, small muscles, small area for everything to be comprised into one, at least thats the bro science lol.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    no offense to you Clove.. I'm just using this post to make a point

    But I've seen in numerous threads recently from various members on here all talking about taking hot baths, showers, etc. after pinning gear. plus this whole drawn out process of heating the gear up and then massaging in the injection area after.. maybe a hot towel treatment on the spot .

    WTF is all this LOL .

    yesterday I pinned 3cc in my left lat, 2cc in my right lat and 2cc in my right delt,, and then this morning 3cc in my left front delt and 1cc in my bicep.

    there was no warming up the gear, or massaging, or showers or hot towels .. just pin all that shit in 2 mins and go hit the gym. heck I even bring pre loaded stuff to the gym with me to pin in the middle of a workout (again no hot showers in the middle of my workout just cause I pinned a bicep with some juice).

    guess I don't get why pinning is such a long drawn out process for some guys
    how the hell does a forearm shot feel?
    I'd imagine terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger_Murtaugh View Post
    how the hell does a forearm shot feel?
    I'd imagine terrible.
    .5cc max in a 28g 1/2 inch slin pin. pin the meaty top brachial portion . easy breezy

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    I love that you are getting no pain buddy, but im with Gear on this, thats a hell of alot of work.

    a couple cycles in and you will swab and shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    I love that you are getting no pain buddy, but im with Gear on this, thats a hell of alot of work.

    a couple cycles in and you will swab and shoot.
    Honestly if I add up the amount of actual time, it equates to around 45 seconds, literally......lol.

    15 seconds heat, 20 seconds drawing GSO, 5 seconds to remove and put back in bag, ok so 40 seconds lmao......

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    Shot Right delt on Friday. Injected too fast and felt some "pip" that day and all of saturday so far. But if this is what PIP is then its nothing to write home about. Completely blowing out my left knee 2 times, prp injections into a nerve, numerous surgeries, hoses coming out of my body cavity, I mean this is some of the stuff I have gone through that is real pain, but PIP is a joke.

    Yes its sore and in the specific area and sometimes runs down the muscle in my arm with some sharpness, but if this is pain you were raised a huge f'in vagina.......just wanted to report back. I think I experienced this whole over blown epidemic of "pain" on this forum lol.....

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    I also added in Norditropin at 1iu. I had a bunch of it still in the fridge so I thought I would run it along side the Test E. HGH has a calming effect with me so that will help to offset my increased aggressiveness with the TEST.

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    Out of curiosity what do you mean by increased aggressiveness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101 View Post
    Out of curiosity what do you mean by increased aggressiveness?
    Shorter fuse........I also think I just need to get used to the compound and the hormonal fluctuations which I am not used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACKATTACK1 View Post
    Shorter fuse........I also think I just need to get used to the compound and the hormonal fluctuations which I am not used to.
    Shouldn't be having issues on 500 of test

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101 View Post
    Shouldn't be having issues on 500 of test
    You have no idea what I should be having or doing. Lmao. No Offense.

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    I don’t have any routine as far as preventing pip, and I do think its a big deal. I just pin before work Monday and thursday then get in the shower. Seems to take all my pip down to virtually nothing.

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    PIP was only an issue with me when I first started for about the first month. Since then I have no PIP whatsoever and have never did any of the extracurricular actions to suppress it. Pin it and forget it...

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    Shot left delt for second time. The delts definitelty feel more pressure then the glute does post shot but it absorbed it even better this time and no pip or soreness at all. I have drastically slowed my injection technique also. Almost 2 mins to inject 1.5cc and now I barely feel it and absolutely no issues post shot.

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    Shot Right glute this morning, smooth as butter so far........

    Update also I had dropped the Nolva and on the Aromasin 12.5 EOD......

    Also still on 1iu of HGH norditropin, going to up to 2ius next week.

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    Mack - wondering what difference if any you noticed from stopping the aromasin, going with the nolva, then switching back to the aromasin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannyboy51577 View Post
    Mack - wondering what difference if any you noticed from stopping the aromasin, going with the nolva, then switching back to the aromasin

    It was only like a couple days. But I feel better with aromasin only

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    Shot right delt this morning, zero pip.

    I upped my Norditropin to 1.5iu. I decided to add Anavar for 8 weeks at 50mg, I know lower dosed but I have taken anavar before and if I have a higher dose then that I get pretty bad lower back pumps.

    Today in the gym I have noticed a noticeable difference in my pumps and feeling. This was my last shot in week 4, the TEST seems to be kicking in.

    Still continuing with the 12.5mg of Aromasin EOD. So far I feel great and haven't had any side effects knock on wood.

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    Hey beef curtains I'm glad your cycle is going smoothly. I think adding Var will have some nice benefits, just make sure to cut the Var tabs with protein powder and put it in milk, and then heat the milk with a blow dryer before you drink it. This will be a pointless pain in the ass but give you the illusion of having less sides.


    I'm just f*ckin with you bro I'm glad your cycles going smoothly!
    All in good fun brotha lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Hey beef curtains I'm glad your cycle is going smoothly. I think adding Var will have some nice benefits, just make sure to cut the Var tabs with protein powder and put it in milk, and then heat the milk with a blow dryer before you drink it. This will be a pointless pain in the ass but give you the illusion of having less sides.


    I'm just f*ckin with you bro I'm glad your cycles going smoothly!
    All in good fun brotha lol

    Lol. Thanks brotha. I appreciate it.

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    Ha! - Alphamindz- killin me

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    Shot Left Glute, no issues.......


    Just trying to keep track of injection spots.


    Adding in Lats on Friday.......so then I will have 6 spots to inject for next go round.

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    Made a diet and training change. Added in Ezekiel Bread at breakfast and added in 15mins of HIIT instead of Incline Walk.

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    Shooting left Lat in the morning for the first time......

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    Shot my right lat for the first time. This muscle seems more “dull” compared to let’s say delts. I felt no pressure in this muscle even though it was virgin. Seemed like the muscle sucked it up and adapted faster. Nice change of pace, now I will have 6 places to inject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACKATTACK1 View Post
    Shot my right lat for the first time. This muscle seems more “dull” compared to let’s say delts. I felt no pressure in this muscle even though it was virgin. Seemed like the muscle sucked it up and adapted faster. Nice change of pace, now I will have 6 places to inject.
    Good sh*t bro. I'm kinda surprised you had the balls to hit your lat I'm not gonna lie. We're watching you turn into a rugged steroid shootin beast lol.

    Are you still cutting and heating your oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Good sh*t bro. I'm kinda surprised you had the balls to hit your lat I'm not gonna lie. We're watching you turn into a rugged steroid shootin beast lol.

    Are you still cutting and heating your oil?
    Lmao, my friend swore that the lats don’t hurt at all and never felt a thing compared to other areas. I’ve also had a lot of very painful injuries in my life due to sports and extreme sports so I honestly think my pain tolerance may be higher then the average person. I’ve been in the hospital a bunch of times lol.


    Yea I heat and cut it with just a little GSO. I’ve had no issues really to date. I am planning my next cycle with 600mg of primo e100 so I’m thinking I may have to split up shots so I wanted more places to shoot.


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    I hear ya man the more options one has the better. I've only gone in my glutes, delts, and quads, although I'm not a fan of quad injections (I've hit nerves and blood vessels). Gearhheaded put lat injections on my radar and I've been considering it as of late, and tbh I don't like hitting quads cause of the risk of hitting a nerve so I'm sold on lat shots. F*ck it gonna do my next shot in lat let's see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    I hear ya man the more options one has the better. I've only gone in my glutes, delts, and quads, although I'm not a fan of quad injections (I've hit nerves and blood vessels). Gearhheaded put lat injections on my radar and I've been considering it as of late, and tbh I don't like hitting quads cause of the risk of hitting a nerve so I'm sold on lat shots. F*ck it gonna do my next shot in lat let's see what happens.

    Honestly being a long time after the shot, this muscle group was the smoothest so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACKATTACK1 View Post
    Honestly being a long time after the shot, this muscle group was the smoothest so far.
    Alright bro this is your thread but I just wanted to report back after doing my first lat shot a little earlier. My schedule got thrown off today due to some sh*t I had going on this morning so I had to do my shots at night.. I pinned 1/2 cc of Test, 1/2 cc of Tren and .8 cc of Mast in left lat. Felt odd going in but you were right dude no pain whatsoever I was actually surprised. I stretched out my back after and def could feel the gear in there but it wasn't painful per se... Anyway, I can see this becoming a go to spot like glutes or delts as it's quick and clean... Ironically there wasn't any blood either which usually in my glute there's some blood and in delts also, but not one drop in lats (which could've just been luck) but I'll take it.

    In summary (and then giving thread back to my man Mack)- Lat shots are butter and have officially been added into my repitoire. Thanks .

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    I shot my left lat this morning. Once again and echoing what alpha mindz said it was smooth as butter. No pain, no pressure, no blood. This is by FAR my most favorite muscle to inject. I’m glad i gave it a shot, pun intended lol.

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    Shot right delt, smooth, no pressure, no pip, seems to get easier. Did have a little oil leak out. The pump in the gym is intoxicating lol

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    So then mqybe you guys can offer up some advice. I pretty much only pin glutes- yeah i know, gotta switch it up. I figured i would give a shot at pinnim with slin pin, know a few that do without issue. Hit 2cc per quad and let me tell you, i havent walked straight in 4 days. My guess is that i didnt hit enough muscle and ended up with most subq. I hit shoulders with slin without issue. As far as lats, how the hell do you manage to reach, and not have your hand jumpin around? Ill give anything a try once and hope for the best

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    learn to back load 1/2" slin pins. you'll be hitting chest, biceps, triceps, front delts, calves, etc. find plenty of places to put that gear. and when your injecting more then 1cc, simply throw a 25g x 5/8 on a 3cc syringe and hit all those same places. anything but glutes man, that shit gets old

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