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Originally Posted by < <Samson> >
I got doctor prescription for deca, primobolan, test prop and cyp, and HGH .. totally immune system helpful .
but your right.. as I said above. most guys are compromising their immune system injecting bath tub brewed crap . yes that reality.
but "medically" , steroids are generally helpful for immune system compromised people, NOT harmful
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and thats not all that rare . other guys on this forum have prescriptions for the same compounds, plus Anavar (windex and kelkel come to mind)
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also just to add some very basic common sense science to this topic .. steroids increase protein turnover (I.e., make your body use protein more efficiently and build cells more effeciently).
the immune system is made up of proteins.
The cells of the immune system can be categorized as lymphocytes (T-cells, B-cells and NK cells), neutrophils, and monocytes/macrophages. . The major proteins of the immune system are predominantly signaling proteins (often called cytokines), antibodies, and complement proteins.
protein turnover and up regulation and better utilization of protein (which steroids provide) is going to be a GOOD THING for the immune system. not a bad thing.
but again, injecting some bath tub brewed shit off a drug dealer is probably not ideal for your immune system. but 'real' quality AAS can be. and why AAS has been used for decades to treat immune system compromised people
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Please don't get me wrong. I know this is VERY serious and should not be taken lightly but I do think people are just in a complete panic. I just read where one state in the USA with a population of 7.2 million declared a state of emergency and they have less than 20 cases.
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Everyone just needs to be careful. Washing your hands often and avoiding touching your face will go along way. I’m still trying to go about most my normal stuff just being extra cautious. I went to the gym today. I smaller one than my normal one. Washed my hands right when I got there. Cleaned each equipment before I used and cleaned after. Didn’t drink from the water fountain. Didn’t touch my face. Washed my hands after my workout and used a paper towel to open the doors on my way out
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isn't that somewhat irrelevant now being the federal govt. has declared a NATIONAL state of emergency . that pretty much supersedes any local or state level stuff,, as far as I know.
just another example of 'big government' using their "power" upon the people for no good reason
edit note - pretty sure there is a whole different set of 'laws' and 'rights' in place during a national state of emergency . pretty much means as a citizen you no longer have your normal rights and freedoms..
if they tell you to stay home and set a curfew and not drive anywhere, well thats the new law folks . no 'votes' needed.
if they tell you to hand over your guns,, well thats the new law. no voting needed
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Weve been declared a state of emergency in my state and literally had 3 godamn cases at the time, my kids are out of school for three weeks now with nobody to watch them, all my boys sporting events cancelled or put off who fucking knows now. Swear this is some bullshit
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My kids are out of school too. It sucks but if they want to stop it from spreading what other options are there??? My guess would be stop allowing people to travel. This traveling is spreading it
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like any air born 'cold' virus.. everyone in the world will eventually get it .. its inevitable. they are just trying to slow things down.
but in reality, if we all got it at once, were sick for 3 weeks, then we could all continue with our lives as normal afterwards .
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Agree I’m not worried about getting it. I’ll live through it. I made a couple of years ago through a bout of influenza and pneumonia at the same time and I pushed through though it was rough. What keeps me up at night is trying to keep my business open if all my staff gets sick or just decides there not coming in.
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exactly . its more of an economic "crisis" then anything else. especially when people are so prone to over react
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Yes all this media hype is just totally freaking people out! What going to happen here soon is grocery stores will have ordered and taken all the product from there warehouses. The warehouses are gonna be out till the manufacture can make the product. So even though grocery stores will be open there product selection isn’t gonna be much and it will go about as fast as they get there freight on the shelf
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I never get sick and I use plenty of steroids. No more fear mongering.
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be over the age of 35 , have a really fat wallet, call an "anti aging" clinic in FL, and explain to them your on TRT but you want a true "anti aging" protocol . once they have your medical profile, blood work, AND credit card on file, you'll get a script for all sorts of goodies
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The thing about exponential growth is that 20 cases can turn into a million in a few months, that's the problem, not the current number of cases. And that's why it's important to act sooner rather than later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0...ature=youtu.be
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'the sooner it turns into a million, a billion, 6 billion.. the sooner we'll be over this bullshit and continue with normal life . its the fear mongering thats causiing all the problems.
everyone just needs to get corona and get over it.
just went to store to pick a few things up for dinner and this is what I find
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Like I said as grocery stores run out of product they will try to reorder but there warehouse will get blown out quick cause they weren’t prepared either. Then we have to wait fir the manufacture to get caught up. It could take 6 months to a year fir the manufactures and the warehouses to get stocked up again, we all better get used to grocery stores being empty'the sooner it turns into a million, a billion, 6 billion.. the sooner we'll be over this bullshit and continue with normal life . its the fear mongering thats causiing all the problems.
everyone just needs to get corona and get over it.
just went to store to pick a few things up for dinner and this is what I find
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When vaccines and other drugs are in rapid development, every month matters, a lot. Plus it's possible to stop the virus and limit the number of the cases (SARS only had 8000 cases total), it's not a given at all that we're all gonna get it. And even if we do, it also matters if it happens slowly over a year or more, so the health care system doesn't collapse along with a lot of industries.'the sooner it turns into a million, a billion, 6 billion.. the sooner we'll be over this bullshit and continue with normal life . its the fear mongering thats causiing all the problems.
everyone just needs to get corona and get over it.
just went to store to pick a few things up for dinner and this is what I find
That's said, there's definitely a lot of fear mongering and hype, I wouldn't deny that.
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I understand about the fear element and the fact that is a major inconvenience. My wife & I WERE going to retire next year, but not with this stock market. Yeah, this sucks BIG time.'the sooner it turns into a million, a billion, 6 billion.. the sooner we'll be over this bullshit and continue with normal life . its the fear mongering thats causiing all the problems.
everyone just needs to get corona and get over it.
just went to store to pick a few things up for dinner and this is what I find
But if we let the healthcare system get overwhelmed, there will be issues with not being able to treat the non- c-virus patients. You definitely don’t want that for you, your family & friends.
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As you can see the mortality rate isn't that high, the problem isn't it. The main problem with the corona is that it have a high hospitalization rate (12%, more or less) which can cause the whole health system to crash if everyone get it at the same time.
Using Italy as example, they went from 224 cases in Feb 24, then 470 in Feb 26, then 887 in Feb 28 to 9.172 in March 09. Now even with all the containment measures they had 17.660 cases in March 13, it spreads rapidly if let alone.(https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/)
Now using the US as a example, if only 2% of all population get sick you will need to hospitalize close to 785.000 people. Imagine that many people sick at the same time (or close) when the US "only" have 540,668 staffed beds and 94,837 ICU beds. (https://www.sccm.org/Communications/...are-Statistics)
It would crash the whole health system for sure, even people with all kinds of other problems would die because of how many people are admitted at the same time.
So, if in one hand we shouldn't freak out, on the other hand we do have to take precautions, because if it really spread out fast you or even someone close to you could die without receive proper medical care, even if it's not corona related, because the hospitals are overcrowded.
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There are 1.4 billion people in China and 88,000 cases to date and China is starting to recover. Thinking that 20 cases is going to turn into millions is just more exaggeration and media paranoia.
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Understand your point, but regrettably thinking that as more & more c-virus tests become available, the numbers will climb pretty alarmingly.
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They locked down the affected regions completely, that's how they stopped it. Countries that don't do the same (as you advocate) will have those millions, you will see.
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VERY well explained and understood. The health care system could possibly take a major hit and cause devastation within itself. I understand the precaution and do believe that its needed but the mass paranoia I'm seeing from the general public is what has me scratching my head.
As you can see the mortality rate isn't that high, the problem isn't it. The main problem with the corona is that it have a high hospitalization rate (12%, more or less) which can cause the whole health system to crash if everyone get it at the same time.
Using Italy as example, they went from 224 cases in Feb 24, then 470 in Feb 26, then 887 in Feb 28 to 9.172 in March 09. Now even with all the containment measures they had 17.660 cases in March 13, it spreads rapidly if let alone.(https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/)
Now using the US as a example, if only 2% of all population get sick you will need to hospitalize close to 785.000 people. Imagine that many people sick at the same time (or close) when the US "only" have 540,668 staffed beds and 94,837 ICU beds. (https://www.sccm.org/Communications/...are-Statistics)
It would crash the whole health system for sure, even people with all kinds of other problems would die because of how many people are admitted at the same time.
So, if in one hand we shouldn't freak out, on the other hand we do have to take precautions, because if it really spread out fast you or even someone close to you could die without receive proper medical care, even if it's not corona related, because the hospitals are overcrowded.
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I don't advocate anything, your putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. I'm a numbers guy and I'm going by statistics. I believe there should be some lockdowns and quarantines to prevent the spread and the health care systems from being bombarded.
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Alright, I take that part back, but that was my impression.
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I previously worked as a PT & my wife still does. It’s incredible that we have security personnel in health care facilities simply because folks get VERY temperamental when it comes to caring for their or their loved ones health. Individuals have to be physically removed if they perceive they are not getting what they deserve. When it comes to health, nothing surprises me with respect to how folks react. You want to see truly fucked up & scary, if the healthcare industry starts to get overwhelmed & starts denying individuals care, watch out; civil unrest.
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56,000 people just this year alone have died from the flu.. and 100s of thousands have been hospitalized cause of the flu . yet no one is talking about that, cause this shit happens every year and its not "new" like Corona is supposedly new.
looking at the numbers.. your way more likely to get extremely sick or die from the flu then you are corona. its just corona gets all the hype and media attention cause its "new" and therefore can be propagandized by media and big government to take away peoples freedoms and rights (meanwhile the flu is still spreading and killing thousands of people every month just like it does every year)
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Agreed, except this virus does currently kill a higher percentage than the flu (and yes that percentage will drop somewhat).
Agreed that the flu kills thousands. And that C-V disease, diabetes & lung cancer kills millions and are an accepted part of our culture. And mosquitoes, but who cares about Africa (satire, not my stance).
But, do you want to add another virus to what’s currently out there? This is new & unknown, let’s pump the brakes on this bad-boy till we can get a better understanding of it.
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Flu has a mortality rate of around 0.2%, while corona's rate is currently estimated to be around 3%, but without proper care it could be as high as 5%. If 50% of the US population gets infected, then with the 3% rate it's 5 million people dead. Let that sink in for a second before we call bullshit on this one. Sure there's hype and propaganda out there, but what I said is just math and science. And I hate seeing the gov taking away people's freedoms as much as you do, in fact i doubt there's anybody here who's more anti gov than I am, but I don't want to get into that now.
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I'm really not here to start a pissing match on who's right or who's wrong here. I'm just stating my personal opinion. There is still some much unknown we ALL could be wrong. I absolutely do believe this is serious situation and should be handled with kid gloves. I believe in being cautious and prepared and preventing the spread but as mentioned before I'm a numbers and statistics guy and things overall just don't add up. Peace and love to everyone here, I certainly wish us all the very best.
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well you make a valid point .. but you still got to put the 'death rate' thing into context and perspective..
the death rate of a great white shark attack is about 90% (if your attacked your likely going to die). yet maybe 10 people per year die from this..
the death rate of the flu may only be 0.2 % . yet 56,000 people have died this year from it, and since it came on the scene as a pandemic back in 1918, around 60 million people have died.
so death rates, in this context are quite the opposite , yet your way more likely to die from the one with that much lower of a death rate.
yes, comparing corona with the flu is much more a direct comparison then is comparing a shark attack to the flu . but just using extreme example to make a point
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Going back to my original post. 1.4 billion people in China, 88,000 infected and 3200 deaths. I'm just not believing that 160 million people will test positive in the USA and 5 million will die when China has triple the population and only 88k infected and 3200 deaths. That's been my point this entire thread, the numbers don't add up. The infected and death rate numbers are highly over exaggerated from what I see.
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well to bring this topic back to its original "tren and corona" topic ..
well your odds of getting deathly ill from corona virus while on tren are very very low (like 0. 000001 %)
your odds of getting jacked while running legit tren , very very high (like 95%)
umm I like those odds. I'm going to go ahead and pin some Tren today
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I’d be content with some RX test & primo for the rest of my life... I mean I’d still run Tren and mast here and there, but I never drop test or primo completely.
Im sure that would put me financially in the hurt locker unless insurance covers anything. In which case bring on the pharma GH
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Wow. They actually flipped over the aisle shelves?just went to store to pick a few things up for dinner and this is what I find
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