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    Some people see humans as just another species of animal and think that we just need to reproduce and spread our genes and take care of our young. Others think that our status as a species or as an animal is very unimportant when put alongside our intellectual and spiritual nature.

    A human being is of a kind and caring nature unless there is something wrong with them. If you find two grown men, one who is frequently angry and one who is frequently kind, the kinder one will be in better health (e.g. lower resting blood pressure, more restful sleep).

    I believe in behavioural genetics for more simple species such as scorpion and dog. I think that a scorpion will probably behave like a scorpion, and I think that a poodle will probably behave like a poodle. When I'm walking dogs at my local pound, I prefer not to walk a terrier as I just don't like their personality.

    Anthropologists say that humans looked just the way we do 300,000 years ago. So if you find a caveman from 200,000 years ago and give him a bath and a shave he will look just like one of us. But they say that behavioural modernity began only about 50,000 years ago. They say that between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago there was a sudden and abrupt change in our DNA which lead to more complex behaviours and ideas like respect, dignity and martyrdom. Some people think that this is when God entered us and created us in his spiritual image.

    For those of you familiar with hard disks and USB sticks you can get a terabyte USB stick now for less than $100. The human genome is a total of 4 gigabytes. In my day job as a computer programmer developing firmware for security cameras, I deal with source code repositories frequently about 3 or 4 gigabytes in size. I think modern operating systems like Microsoft Windows and Mac OS are into tens of gigabytes now, approximately 50 or 60 gigabyte.

    There's no way that you can do 'corpus callosum' and red blood cells and hemoglobin and 'human chorionic gonadotropin' in 4 gigabytes. So if you want to believe in something Supernatural then just look at a DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Cameron View Post
    Some people see humans as just another species of animal and think that we just need to reproduce and spread our genes and take care of our young. Others think that our status as a species or as an animal is very unimportant when put alongside our intellectual and spiritual nature.

    A human being is of a kind and caring nature unless there is something wrong with them. If you find two grown men, one who is frequently angry and one who is frequently kind, the kinder one will be in better health (e.g. lower resting blood pressure, more restful sleep).

    I believe in behavioural genetics for more simple species such as scorpion and dog. I think that a scorpion will probably behave like a scorpion, and I think that a poodle will probably behave like a poodle. When I'm walking dogs at my local pound, I prefer not to walk a terrier as I just don't like their personality.

    Anthropologists say that humans looked just the way we do 300,000 years ago. So if you find a caveman from 200,000 years ago and give him a bath and a shave he will look just like one of us. But they say that behavioural modernity began only about 50,000 years ago. They say that between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago there was a sudden and abrupt change in our DNA which lead to more complex behaviours and ideas like respect, dignity and martyrdom. Some people think that this is when God entered us and created us in his spiritual image.

    For those of you familiar with hard disks and USB sticks you can get a terabyte USB stick now for less than $100. The human genome is a total of 4 gigabytes. In my day job as a computer programmer developing firmware for security cameras, I deal with source code repositories frequently about 3 or 4 gigabytes in size. I think modern operating systems like Microsoft Windows and Mac OS are into tens of gigabytes now, approximately 50 or 60 gigabyte.

    There's no way that you can do 'corpus callosum' and red blood cells and hemoglobin and 'human chorionic gonadotropin' in 4 gigabytes. So if you want to believe in something Supernatural then just look at a DNA
    not sure why guys on this forum give you such a hard time .. you got some pretty interesting things to share

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    not sure why guys on this forum give you such a hard time .. you got some pretty interesting things to share
    I once thought that too. He just seeks negative attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    not sure why guys on this forum give you such a hard time .. you got some pretty interesting things to share
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    I once thought that too. He just seeks negative attention
    One thing that I take into account is that the primary motivating emotion on any forum to do with weightlifting, bodybuilding or powerlifting, is anger. I'm not talking about surface-level anger, or an immediate angry reaction to a recent event. More so I'm talking about old anger -- anger produced from an event that occurred years if not decades ago. This kind of 'old anger' influences our behavioural patterns and habits, everything from our taste in music to our favourite breed of dog. Old stale anger eventually rots and becomes depression (unless it is expressed). Anger must be expressed.

    So if somebody reacts adversely to me on this forum then I consider that their reaction might be more to do with something that happened in their life eight years ago, than to me personally. Also they say that it is people who are hurt that hurt other people. But I'm sure there are some people who think they have a genuine reason to dislike me.

    They tried to tell me in rehab 5 years ago that I was seeking negative attention, but that's a behaviour that anybody can temporarily fall into if they feel alienated (or if they are afraid that an elderly male nurse working in the rehab is going to try grab their dick in the middle of the night).

    Seeking negative attention is fine so long as it's the 'done thing'. This forum isn't a princess party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidic Cameron View Post
    One thing that I take into account is that the primary motivating emotion on any forum to do with weightlifting, bodybuilding or powerlifting, is anger. I'm not talking about surface-level anger, or an immediate angry reaction to a recent event. More so I'm talking about old anger -- anger produced from an event that occurred years if not decades ago. This kind of 'old anger' influences our behavioural patterns and habits, everything from our taste in music to our favourite breed of dog. Old stale anger eventually rots and becomes depression (unless it is expressed). Anger must be expressed.

    So if somebody reacts adversely to me on this forum then I consider that their reaction might be more to do with something that happened in their life eight years ago, than to me personally. Also they say that it is people who are hurt that hurt other people. But I'm sure there are some people who think they have a genuine reason to dislike me.

    They tried to tell me in rehab 5 years ago that I was seeking negative attention, but that's a behaviour that anybody can temporarily fall into if they feel alienated (or if they are afraid that an elderly male nurse working in the rehab is going to try grab their dick in the middle of the night).

    Seeking negative attention is fine so long as it's the 'done thing'. This forum isn't a princess party.
    Fuck off you faggot motherfuker

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    Quote Originally Posted by The road View Post
    Fuck off you faggot motherfuker

    See, I learned this along the way - ignorance can b bliss

    I won’t even read it - then I don’t have to reply

    Lol

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    anyone tell me where this quote comes from

    ""But every night I burn
    But every night I call your name
    Every night I burn
    Every night I fall again
    "Oh don't talk of love" the shadows purr
    Murmuring me away from you
    "Don't talk of worlds that never were
    The end is all that's ever true
    There's nothing you can ever say
    Nothing you can ever do"
    Still every night I burn
    Every night I scream your name
    Every night I burn
    Every night the dream's the same
    Every night I burn
    Waiting for my only friend
    Every night I burn
    Waiting for the world to end"""


    first one to tell me wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    anyone tell me where this quote comes from

    ""But every night I burn
    But every night I call your name
    Every night I burn
    Every night I fall again
    "Oh don't talk of love" the shadows purr
    Murmuring me away from you
    "Don't talk of worlds that never were
    The end is all that's ever true
    There's nothing you can ever say
    Nothing you can ever do"
    Still every night I burn
    Every night I scream your name
    Every night I burn
    Every night the dream's the same
    Every night I burn
    Waiting for my only friend
    Every night I burn
    Waiting for the world to end"""


    first one to tell me wins

    Knew the lyrics right away - the Crow is absolutely a top 10 movie for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    Knew the lyrics right away - the Crow is absolutely a top 10 movie for me.
    amen.. glad to see brothers out there with a keen mind

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    Burn by The Cure......







    ....but I cheated.

    Edit. Not really cheated, just used the available resources.
    Last edited by almostgone; 05-01-2020 at 09:28 PM.
    There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Burn by The Cure.......
    your not cheating anymore .. I bet you listening to it right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    your not cheating anymore .. I bet you listening to it right now
    Quit watching me at work!
    There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Quit watching me at work!
    oh thats just big government spying on you ...
    the prophets and the seer does not need technology to see things. its in the winds and the waves and the birds/crows calls . don't need technology, just a listen

    messing with you .. but told you that you were listening to that song

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    Shit...
    Dramk a bunch of ipa's at the burn site.
    Fell asleep when I got home.
    Now Im up at 3a.m.

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    I have sleep problems as well but I pin it on the fact that historically humans used to sleep in two shifts (or so it's believed), and in the modern day we don't have this type of flexibility.

    "Don Quixote followed nature, and being satisfied with his first sleep, did not solicit more. As for Sancho, he never wanted a second, for the first lasted him from night to morning."
    Miguel Cervantes, Don Quixote (1615) -> what's notable is that throughout the history writers refer to it as if "first sleep" and "second sleep" are common knowledge


    And then there's that type of insomnia caused by anxiety, in which you wonder if you did enough for things to run in your favor. In a crisis your brain will tell you to stay awake and fend off dangers. It really depends on the individual whether this extra awareness is required or not. You can be fending from imaginary dangers or real ones. Personally I have the job that I have via an application that I sent at 4am. My fear of unemployment caused excessive vigilance which got me work in a matter of days. Anxiety can be a good thing for survival, it's a sign one carries his/hers world on one's own shoulders.

    I can only guess how much that anxiety amplifies when you carry someone else's world on your shoulders as well. It's a noble thing to do though.
    Last edited by sv.elia; 05-02-2020 at 03:51 AM. Reason: found a better reference to the segmented sleeping pattern
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    Quote Originally Posted by sv.elia View Post
    I have sleep problems as well but I pin it on the fact that historically humans used to sleep in two shifts (or so it's believed), and in the modern day we don't have this type of flexibility.

    "Don Quixote followed nature, and being satisfied with his first sleep, did not solicit more. As for Sancho, he never wanted a second, for the first lasted him from night to morning."
    Miguel Cervantes, Don Quixote (1615) -> what's notable is that throughout the history writers refer to it as if "first sleep" and "second sleep" are common knowledge


    And then there's that type of insomnia caused by anxiety, in which you wonder if you did enough for things to run in your favor. In a crisis your brain will tell you to stay awake and fend off dangers. It really depends on the individual whether this extra awareness is required or not. You can be fending from imaginary dangers or real ones. Personally I have the job that I have via an application that I sent at 4am. My fear of unemployment caused excessive vigilance which got me work in a matter of days. Anxiety can be a good thing for survival, it's a sign one carries his/hers world on one's own shoulders.

    I can only guess how much that anxiety amplifies when you carry someone else's world on your shoulders as well. It's a noble thing to do though.
    ^ great post !


    I think a lot of my anxiety comes from having had to take care of a family , church members (yes I used to preach), business, clients etc.. for most my life.
    I was self employed at 22 and have been ever since (I'm 43 now).. building multiple businesses and employing lots of people and providing them with livelihoods,, lots of financial stress running million dollar business as well.. then 4 kids I home schooled. and being a leader at church and concerned for peoples souls on top of it all. and now 40 or so clients I coach and worrying about their health and well being ,, and an 800 member gym to run and worrying about that and all those people I meet daily..

    I think I stretched myself too thin and have the weight of the world on my back . thats what caused my bad anxiety and sleep disorders and the inability to just relax and shut off my brain .. of course there are spiritual struggles as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    ^ great post !


    I think a lot of my anxiety comes from having had to take care of a family , church members (yes I used to preach), business, clients etc.. for most my life.
    I was self employed at 22 and have been ever since (I'm 43 now).. building multiple businesses and employing lots of people and providing them with livelihoods,, lots of financial stress running million dollar business as well.. then 4 kids I home schooled. and being a leader at church and concerned for peoples souls on top of it all. and now 40 or so clients I coach and worrying about their health and well being ,, and an 800 member gym to run and worrying about that and all those people I meet daily..

    I think I stretched myself too thin and have the weight of the world on my back . thats what caused my bad anxiety and sleep disorders and the inability to just relax and shut off my brain .. of course there are spiritual struggles as well.
    True type A.
    Everyone wants to be a type A and thinks they are. Very few actually live up to it. Always in a hurry to achieve. Work beyond four others. Craving dangerous risks... Felling dead without your ass on the line.

    Yet every lazy fuck gen Y person I know thinks they are type A thpughI can outwork a dozen of them.

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    So - I need to b in bed, asleep by lets say 10(maybe 11)at the latest before - I still wake up at 5

    Wife & her new bff had to start “that” conversation at like 10 < of course that got me going till a solid midnight. . . So, yeah - here I am - typing at 5am

    Still so worth it


    But, 5 hours of sleep just don’t do me - her new & def improved bff is one of those natural insomnia nuts - she barely sleeps 3 hours a nite, since she refuses all meds & drinks like a fish


    Well, I know I’ll b missing some sleep in the next upcoming week(s) - but, if that’s not time well spent - I don’t know what is


    Back to reading & hearing them snore

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    "Therefore stay awake, because you do not know on what hour your Lord will come""
    Matthew 24

    when Jesus was praying and battling the serpent and filled with such anxiety that he began sweating out droplets of blood ..

    ""Then Jesus returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. “Couldn’t you men keep watch with me for one hour?” he asked Peter. “Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”"
    Matthew 26


    sleep anxiety been around for thousands of years ... Shepards don't sleep . they always watch after the flock

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    Ya kno, if I followed this - I’d b dead

    Considering my probs/addictions



    I sleep as much as possible


    Losing 2 hours of sleep last nite & I feel a bit like shit today


    I look back at some shit that I lost sleep over & think wtf - that wasn’t worth it

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    its 1:30 am here .. fuck the 3:00 am witching hour ,,, I simply don't sleep at all anymore .. I've been up for days now. its crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    its 1:30 am here .. fuck the 3:00 am witching hour ,,, I simply don't sleep at all anymore .. I've been up for days now. its crazy
    I don’t know you for shit - and, I won’t pretend to

    Relax man - even if it is medically induced. . . Man, I miss the gym more than I ever thought

    Right now I’m trying to get ahold of an owner of a Indy gym in Scottsdale, to see if he’ll let me go in on my own - so far no reply

    Again - these 2 keep me up till midnight

    I think I’m officially at the friend zone point - lady(& wife) stfu & leave me alone - I would of rather gone into my once 24x7 gym last nite then listen to their bull shit


    At least I fell back asleep & made it to 5:30

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    For the past few months I have been waking up at 2-3 AM, and it’s driving me insane! Even I do twoadays and get to sleep by 10:30-11, still up at 2-3. I am not a baller either so the lack of sleep definitely catches up to me. I’ve tried everything except for a cpap machine.

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    Ahh,


    Made it to 6:30 < but, it almost feels a tad late to jump on my day

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    does anyone else wake up auotomically at 3am on the dot , even though you may not fall asleep until 1am ???

    no matter what ,, 3am is always calling me .

    just curious if any of you get that .


    maybe its the "witching hour" and people spiritual enlighten have senses to see whats going on.. or maybe mr Natty Mike O'hearn would just get up and go to the gym at that time . maybe he was on to something . idk
    I get this a lot too. Nothing demonic now however I have had my experiences with the other side. I think once you are marked it's something you can never shake off.

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    Made it to 4:20am

    I’m starting to see that it’s so difficult to sleep because I don’t wear or wind down. I’m used to covering the whole town in a day along with having contacts with tens of people - now, it’s like a day that never launches


    Thank u antipsychotics - I’d lose my marbles by now. I’m even to the point of not wanting to drink or get stoned just to stay dumbed down.

    Again - great year we’re having

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    I'm getting tired of this 3am wake up call

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    probably not a bad time to go to the gym

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    probably not a bad time to go to the gym

    Agreed - its 11am here in the UK !

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    up at 3am again.. its an endless cycle. I could use the sleep, but 3am calls me every day. its dark , but quiet and still.
    have a couple hours before viewing the sun rise

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    Yup, gotta take a wiz again. Same time almost every morning. Thank God for the phone or I’d trip and kill myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Yup, gotta take a wiz again. Same time almost every morning. Thank God for the phone or I’d trip and kill myself.
    Probably a good idea to put in some low brightness nightlights. It’s not world’s greatest idea to go flashing a cell screen into your eyes (even if only momentarily) in the middle of a short duration sleep/wake cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    Probably a good idea to put in some low brightness nightlights. It’s not world’s greatest idea to go flashing a cell screen into your eyes (even if only momentarily) in the middle of a short duration sleep/wake cycle.
    I just point the screen down for a little light. Night lights? Then it’s grab bars in the shower shortly after. I think I’ll push off the inevitable for a while longer.

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    I’m still up at 3am usually. Last night after that crazy thread that disappeared by the time I just woke up, I stayed up until 4:30 am. Once I heard the birds chirping outside my window, I know it’s time to get to sleep.

    I worked for 14 years from 11pm to 7am, and another 8 years or so from noon to around midnight to get overtime.

    I can never fall asleep until hours after midnight. When Roku and firestick came out, I appreciated it more than most.

    I probably gained 25 pounds of fat in 6 years since I got them, staying all night in front of the tv, but at least I keep busy before getting tired enough to fall asleep.


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    this 3am thing is getting kinda old ,, not sure if its a blessing or a curse

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    this 3am thing is getting kinda old ,, not sure if its a blessing or a curse
    Ehh, I tried afternoon training, but due to my end of work day being so variable, I had to stop that dumb shit.

    So I’m back to 1:30 am wake-ups on training days during the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    Ehh, I tried afternoon training, but due to my end of work day being so variable, I had to stop that dumb shit.

    So I’m back to 1:30 am wake-ups on training days during the week.
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