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The Media they ALL lie like a bunch of scumbags but not those stand up citizens running some random blog/youtube channel posting the "real" news every day, no no, they are the good guys.
Everything is always someone else's fault. We have no part in it ourselves at all. The day I see a post starting with solutions and how we all played a part in it I am going to cut off my left ball because complaining without a word about what do about it all that I see. Lazy brain, lazy life!
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Here is the cause, this one dude. He leads the satanic anarchist regime WAFI (We Are Fucking Idiots).
WAFI has supporters in every city and every state, connected by an intricate telepathic communication system that is impossible to break (unless you’re a WAFI associate; a fucking idiot).
It’s as simple as that, find him and the problem is solved. Honesty, I don’t know where some of you get your “news”, but your source(s) are woefully lacking and biased.
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Originally Posted by Proximal
he is probably a cop himself..
its all a side ploy and a false front.. just literally watched a video of police unloading bricks out of their cop car trunk and unloading them on city streets.. breaking windows of cars and buildings themselves to make it look like it was the "rioters".
I'll post vids if I can.
the "satanic" leader is not him lol.. you need to look way deeper.
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Bricks? That’s some lame -ass shit.
Out here in Los Angeles, the police are handing out guns to promote even more mayhem for the liberal news to report.
I even have a photo as proof . . . .
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Go to the 1 hr 26 min point in video I posted above.
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I watched all.. always could tell you were a wise and open minded individual Cape .
actually got through most that video before you even made that post just by instinct. even made the wife sit next to me and listen to nearly the whole 2 hours.
she was actually surprised . stuff I been saying for weeks and she thought I was just talking mumbo jumbo bullshit after a shot of whisky,, but she's seeing that lots of other people are seeing whats really going on
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Check this out. Look familiar? Right is Paris
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People are unwilling to connect the dots. If they do they don’t want to believe how we are being used for a much larger plan that involves us losing the way of life we know. Wake up people.
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It has been suggested that Donald Trump and the Republican Party paid, yes paid China to spread Covid-19 to the United States. Fearing the public’s interest fading in the Coronavirus, Donald Trump & the Republican Party paid the Minneapolis Police Dept. to murder a U.S. citizen in public & coincidentally have someone right there in perfect position to record the act.
These were done in a massive distraction campaign that suggests Donald Trump is a pedophile.
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interesting.. you actually have to pay some other country to spread a virus ?
biologically speaking , viruses spread quite easily without the need for money. thats just kinda how viruses work in nature.
that would be silly to pay for the spread of something that spreads all on its own anyhow..
think Trump is a bit smarter investor then that
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Smarter investor? Thats a good one.
Bankrupting four companies?
Buying two of the exact same businesses (casinos) right across the street from each other so he is competing with himself?
Here Are All of Trump?s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Here Are All of Trump’s Bankruptcies and Failed Businesses
Trump’s failed businesses:
1. Trump Steaks
2. GoTrump
3. Trump Airlines
4. Trump Vodka
5. Trump Mortgage
6. Trump: The Game
7. Trump Magazine
8. Trump University
9. Trump Ice
10. The New Jersey Generals
11. Tour de Trump
12. Trump Network
13. Trumped!
Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:
1. Trump Taj Mahal
2. Trump’s Castle
3. Trump Plaza Casinos
4. Trump Plaza Hotel
5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
6. Trump Entertainment Resorts
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Go to the 2 hr 12 min mark on video I posted. Your answer is there for that dumb ass post.
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Literally laughing right now. My posts are ludicrously moronic and made up to try to try to counter what I feel is equally ludicrous stuff.
I just posted that shit for laughs and had no idea about the background. I saw the pic on Facebook.
I just find all of this conspiracy crap funnier than fuck. I’m still waiting for evidence on GH’s dumb-ass claims that palates of bricks are being strategically placed in areas of looting. Are you f’n kidding me? On Melrose Ave? On Van Nuys Blvd? On Ventura Blvd.? These are major streets in Los Angeles where the protests are occurring. You might as well place an elephant on the corner, it would be that conspicuous.
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Did he say Ventura Blvd? Yes. Yes he did at the 1min 6 sec Mark. You still literally laughing?
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Regarding the Ventura Blvd. portion. Those were decoration. I’ve seen that usage many times in the Valley. I’m not out and about a lot now that school is over, but will take photos if I see them, promise. Notice that the top was sealed shut.
Regarding the second portion of the video, thank you, that does definitely seem odd, though if you want to go the conspiracy route, that could have been staged by non-cops.
Regarding the homies . . . .
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I don’t think I twisted what you said. Hell I quoted you. But whatever.
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God darn it, my post regarding Los Angeles followed a specific news report that did not include Los Angeles. It was not referring to GH’s comments.
I have now started more than once that I have appreciated your footage and have modified my view.
However, I also stated that by palates of bricks, I literally thought palettes and what is needed to unload them. We’ve had palates of rock delivered to our home and it was quite a noticeable process. That was the honest truth and was part of my thinking on this.
This shit on Ventura Blvd was 5 minutes from my house, involved our local CVS store and pharmacy and I was buying my Starbucks there in the morning (next to the CVS). There were no pallets of anything.
If you know Ventura Blvd. it extends for many, many miles. Prime targets: pot, booze, jewelry, clothes, upscale sneaker shops selling $1,000 Jordan’s, auto dealers, etc. impossible to monitor the entire Blvd. If there was some big-ass conspiracy it wouldn’t have been some paltry smash and grab.
The protest on Van Nuys Blvd. was by a huge courthouse. I don’t see them placing palates there as well.
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Wow. Someone left bricks.
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No mention of Los Angeles here, odd. Not discounting the report though, but Los Angeles wasn’t included.
Again though, see where you are going with this, but I simply see this as some tactic to turn protests ugly. Our protests and looting here seem distinctively different than those following Rodney King for various reasons, one being is now folks know where they will be via social media.
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1 min mark. Rocks bricks and metal pipes
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I get that, yes. But the Fox News report was supporting what you said about large amounts being left out ahead of time. But still, again, with people now knowing where these protests will be occurring, it doesn’t take some master-mind or large scale organization to plan this. I’m still shaking my head about a conspiracy.
I included a pic on how I see the rocks that you saw on Ventura Blvd. used.
Gonna hit some biceps now. Kind of happy, curfew isn’t till 9 tonight (Had been 6), so we can order delivery.
Again, appreciate the footage and because of that have a greater appreciation as to the lengths some of these trouble-makers are going. I feel bad for the POs out here, folks are giving them shit for not being aggressive enough or being too aggressive.
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LA or not. That’s not what you we’re waiting for. “ I’m still waiting for evidence on GH’s dumb-ass claims that palates of bricks are being strategically placed in areas of looting. Are you f’n kidding me? ”
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Now you just twisted what I said.
I was replying specifically to the Fox News report you posted.
I have already stated That because of your efforts, I’m seeing that evidence. Although I don’t think I saw a palate. That is an important point. I believe palates need a special fork lift that would be conspicuous as all hell and that was part of my logic.
Any group of goof-balls could quickly unload what was seen in any of the footage. Still not conclusive to some big conspiracy. Planning, sure; no brainer, but look at Beetles last post and that is suggestive of something all together different.
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"ignorance is bliss"... and I guess probably funny too
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I will say this Cape, I appreciate the evidence.
I personally don’t believe in some huge conspiracy, but could understand how some pre-planning by looters to have bricks available for others as perhaps a decoy so they can be more unnoticed someplace else. Seems reasonable. I mean the looting is going more upscale here, so there could definitely be some planning. I’ll buy it.
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There is somehow a vast conspiracy in the world that is so involved that no one beyond the "special" people can see it. It reminds me of my favorite person on Instagram I follow who is a massive fan of perineum sunning. She claimed that all was now revealed but only if you wanted to see it, and if you could not see it, you had not opened your mind. It's like that with many things; if you do not see it, you just have not listened to the "right" people or read the "right" text or listened to the "right" news. We have it too good in the world since people got so much free time on their hands to spend time on such things.
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As a "serial lurker" here, I must say that it is bordering on the comical here under Covid 19:
We now have Mods / Admin / Moderators wading into the fray and slinging barbs (first it was DD and now The Cape)... And here I thought you guys were recruited to stay above the fray...
Nice to see that you are all a bit human, and that the AAS coupled with the quarantine lock-down has the same effect on the likes of you fine gentlemen.
Gotta love the forum. In fact, quarantine has done wonders for my post count.
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Hell yeah.
Svengoolie was the bomb. Was his show only a local broadcast? I don't believe (I was really young at the time), looking back on it, that it was a high budget nationally broadcast show.
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Don’t remember really, just thought it was a continuation of Creature features, but could have it wrong.
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Ahhhhh, yeah. Sven might have been the program which was carrying Creature? If "carrying" is the right word...
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I’ll due a little checking. Wow, no curfew last night, lol.
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Published in 2016:
5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks
1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015.
2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks.
3. The Post‘s data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man…but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But Mac Donald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:
The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.
In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.
4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers....
...Black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene....*
5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops.
*The only logical explanation for such a substantial disparity this is that black police officers are shooting based on their cop-sense, but white officers are seconding their cop-sense to fears their actions will be viewed as racially-motivated. IOW, absent fears of materially unfounded, politically motivated persecution, white cops would be shooting more suspects.
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From 2019:
Study Concludes White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Black Citizens
(dailycaller.com/2019/07/23/study-white-police-officers-not-likely-shoot-black-citizens/)
White police officers are not more likely to shoot minorities than their non-white counterparts, according to a new study.
“If anything, black officers are more likely to shoot black citizens,” Dr. Joseph Cesario, co-author and professor of psychology at Michigan State University, wrote in the report. “But this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”...
...“There are so many examples of people saying that when black citizens are shot by police, it’s white officers shooting them. In fact, our findings show no support for the idea that white officers are biased in shooting black citizens,” Dr. Cesario wrote....
...“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Dr. Cesario said.
The study also found that diversifying police forces with members of certain minority communities has no effect on decreasing minority shootings....
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More reporting on the same study as above:
Study destroys argument that white cops are shooting black men
(lawenforcementtoday.com/study-destroys-argument-that-white-cops-are-shooting-black-men/)
...Turns out, according to the study, that white officers are no more likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot black civilians.
And as we’ve long known, it reinforces the fact that it is a racial group’s rate of violent crime that determines police shootings, not the race of the officer.
Here’s what it comes down to – the more frequently officers encounter violent suspects – no matter what that racial group is – the greater the chances that members of that racial group will be shot by a police officer.
It gets even more interesting. The study found if there is a bias in police shootings after crime rates are taken into account, it is against white civilians.
The authors are faculty at Michigan State University and the University of Maryland at College Park. They completed the study by creating a database of 917 officer-involved fatal shootings in 2015 from more than 650 police departments.
When examining those shootings, 55 percent of the victims were white, 27 percent were black, and 19 percent were Hispanic.
Between 90 and 95 percent of the civilians shot by officers in 2015 were attacking police or other citizens and 90 percent were armed with a weapon.
There were very rare cases of what’s called threat-misperception shootings, in which an officer shoots an unarmed civilian after mistaking something for a gun.
It’s not the first study to shoot down the idea that white officers are biased in shooting black citizens....
...Just look at the 2015 Justice Department study of the Philadelphia Police Department.
It found black officers were 67 percent more likely than white officers to mistakenly shoot an unarmed black suspect.
It also found that Hispanic officers were 145 percent more likely than white officers to mistakenly shoot an unarmed black suspect.
The study didn’t address whether lowered hiring standards are responsible for those disparities.
So what’s causing the belief that we’re living through an epidemic of racially biased police shootings?
Simple – selective reporting.
Look at the year the PNAS study focused on – 2015.
That was the same year the white victims of fatal police shootings included a 50-year-old suspect in a domestic assault in Tuscaloosa, Ala., who ran at the officer with a spoon; a 28-year-old driver in Des Moines, Iowa, who exited his car and walked quickly toward an officer after a car chase; and a 21-year-old suspect in a grocery-store robbery in Akron, Ohio, who had escaped on a bike and who did not remove his hand from his waistband when ordered to do so.
Because they were white, their stories never hit the mainstream media – which tends to focus only on stories that they can spin to be race-centric.
This whole idea that “police are racists” is simply increasing anti-cop tensions in minority communities. It also makes cops unwilling to engage in the proactive policing that can save lives.
Just look at the viral videos last month in Harlem, the Bronx, and Brooklyn as people assaulted passive New York Police Department officers. The videos demonstrate that hostility toward the police in inner-city neighborhoods remains at dangerous levels.
It also pulls away from discussing real solutions to criminal justice problems, which includes high rates of black-on-black victimization.
Black men are murdered at eight times the rate of non-Hispanic white men.
But they aren’t being killed by cops – they are being killed by other black men.
If we’re going to really have a conversation about racial justice, we need to start there.
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From 2019:
There Is No Epidemic of Racist Police Shootings
...A new study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences demolishes the Democratic narrative regarding race and police shootings, which holds that white officers are engaged in an epidemic of racially biased shootings of black men. It turns out that white officers are no more likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot black civilians. It is a racial group’s rate of violent crime that determines police shootings, not the race of the officer. The more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that members of that racial group will be shot by a police officer. In fact, if there is a bias in police shootings after crime rates are taken into account, it is against white civilians, the study found.
The authors, faculty at Michigan State University and the University of Maryland at College Park, created a database of 917 officer-involved fatal shootings in 2015 from more than 650 police departments. Fifty-five percent of the victims were white, 27 percent were black, and 19 percent were Hispanic. Between 90 and 95 percent of the civilians shot by officers in 2015 were attacking police or other citizens; 90 percent were armed with a weapon. So-called threat-misperception shootings, in which an officer shoots an unarmed civilian after mistaking a cellphone, say, for a gun, were rare.
Earlier studies have also disproven the idea that white officers are biased in shooting black citizens. The Black Lives Matter narrative has been impervious to the truth, however. Police departments are under enormous political pressure to hire based on race, despite existing efforts to recruit minorities, on the theory that doing so will decrease police shootings of minorities. Buttigieg came under fire from his presidential rivals for not having more black officers on the South Bend force after a white officer killed a black suspect this June. (The officer had responded to a 911 call about a possible car-theft suspect, saw a man leaning into a car, and shot off two rounds after the man threatened him with a knife.) The Obama administration recommended in 2016 that police departments lower their entry standards in order to be able to qualify more minorities for recruitment. Departments had already been deemphasizing written exams or eliminating requirements that recruits have a clean criminal record, but the trend intensified thereafter. The Baltimore Police Department changed its qualifying exam to such an extent that the director of legal instruction in the Baltimore Police Academy complained in 2018 that rookie officers were being let out onto the street with little understanding of the law. Mr. Biden’s criminal-justice plan would require police hiring to “mirror the racial diversity” of the local community as a precondition of federal funding....
...The persistent belief that we are living through an epidemic of racially biased police shootings is a creation of selective reporting. In 2015, the year the PNAS study addressed, the white victims of fatal police shootings included a 50-year-old suspect in a domestic assault in Tuscaloosa, Ala., who ran at the officer with a spoon; a 28-year-old driver in Des Moines, Iowa, who exited his car and walked quickly toward an officer after a car chase; and a 21-year-old suspect in a grocery-store robbery in Akron, Ohio, who had escaped on a bike and who did not remove his hand from his waistband when ordered to do so. Had any of these victims been black, the media and activists would probably have jumped on their stories and added their names to the roster of victims of police racism. Instead, because they are white, they are unknown.
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The same Heather McDonald as wrote the article above wrote this (presciently) in 2015:
Tragedy, Not Pattern
Unjustified police shootings, like that of Walter Scott, remain rare.
...After Michael Brown was shot by police officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson, Missouri, last summer, protesters concocted a narrative in which Brown had been trying to surrender to the officer but was shot in the back for his trouble. The “hands up, don’t shoot” narrative proved to be made up by bystanders, some of whom did not even see the shooting. In North Charleston, however, someone was shot in the back. And the same players—activists and media like—who illegitimately turned the Brown shooting into a symbol of ubiquitous police brutality against black men are now back at it, using the Slager shooting as definitive proof of their longstanding claims about racially predatory police forces. Their main lines of argument are the following: First, innocent minority men are routinely mowed down by the police; second, the police routinely lie about their encounters with minority men; and third, assertive policing in minority neighborhoods is the ultimate culprit behind the alleged epidemic of police homicides. None of these claims is borne out by the evidence.
We don’t know how many people police kill each year. According to the FBI, there are about 400 justified police homicides annually. But reporting to the federal government is voluntary on the part of local police agencies, whether regarding police shootings or crime data. It’s not even known how many agencies report their police homicides to the FBI; one calculation puts that number at around 750, out of approximately 18,000 police departments. Other estimates are higher. The vast majority of departments that report no police homicides to the FBI undoubtedly have no homicides to report. The Bureau of Justice Statistics, using complex statistical sampling rather than actual reports of homicide, has estimated about 1,000 police killings a year from 2003 to 2009—a number that seems high in light of verified reports from actual agencies such as the New York Police Department.
Saying anything definitive about police shootings is therefore difficult. Historically, somewhat less than half of the 400 police homicides reported to the FBI each year have black subjects. This is consistent with the black crime rate. Blacks make up over half of all homicide perpetrators in the country; in 2013, they were 42 percent of all cop-killers, despite being merely 12 percent of the population. From 1980 to 1998, young black males murdered police officers at almost six times the rate of young white males. According to Gary Kleck, a criminologist at Florida State University, police officers are less likely to kill a black suspect who threatens or attacks them than they are to kill a white suspect who threatens or attacks them. Admittedly, Kleck is working with incomplete data, but his findings comport with other research on officer behavior. A 2007 study in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology found that police officers were no more likely to shoot unarmed black men than unarmed white men in video simulations of encounters with armed and unarmed suspects. A 2014 simulation study from Washington State University found that officers waited longer to assess the situation when confronted with black suspects than they did with white suspects.
Data from New York City, where the police maintain highly detailed records on officer use of force, match Kleck’s findings. In 2011, New York officers fired at 41 suspects and killed nine of them—an astonishingly low number in light of New York’s population (over 8 million) and the size of its police force (35,000 uniformed officers). Blacks were 22 percent of those fatalities; whites were 44 percent of police fatalities. Yet blacks were 67 percent of all suspects who fired at the police; no white suspect fired at the police. Moreover, blacks made up 73 percent of all shooting perpetrators in the city in 2011, according to the victims of, and witnesses to, those shootings, though blacks are only 23 percent of the population. Whites committed less than 3 percent of all shootings, though they are close to 35 percent of the city’s population.
It is possible, but unlikely, that a complete data set on police shootings would radically change the picture regarding police shootings. But for now, there is no evidence to show that black men are killed disproportionately to their rate of crime and their rate of threatening officers.
The anti-police activists are also claiming that without the bystander video, the Scott shooting would have been deemed justified—emblematic, they say, of countless other unrecorded officer shootings of blacks that are wrongly deemed justified because the officers lied about them and got away with it. These claims are groundless. It’s not clear from press accounts what exactly Officer Slager said about the Scott shooting in his official report. But the facts would have come out about the Scott shooting with or without the video. The same forensic process that discredited the Michael Brown hoax would have revealed what happened in North Charleston. The autopsy would have shown that Scott was shot in the back; shell casings from Slager’s gun and the location where Scott fell would have shown the distance at which he was shot—crucially, not at close range.
There is no reason to think that officers lie more about their encounters with civilians than vice versa. In fact, the opposite is likely the case. The more cameras taping police-civilian interactions, the better—and to the extent that those videos provide a complete record of police encounters, they will vindicate officer accounts far more often than civilian ones. The Michael Brown saga was a particularly public display of the routine civilian lying about police stops in the inner city. Actress Taraji Henson recently apologized to the Glendale, California, police for falsely claiming that the department racially profiled and mistreated her son during a traffic stop. Evidence discredited New York Times columnist Charles Blow’s claim that his son was abused by Yale University police. In New York City, the Civilian Complaint Review Board, which hears complaints about the New York Police Department, substantiated only 7 percent of the complaints it received in 2014; the vast majority of complaints are ungrounded. ...
...Every year more than 6,000 blacks are homicide victims, more than the number of white and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though blacks make up only 13 percent of the national population. They are killed not by cops, but by other blacks. For that reason, the press ignores these killings. ...
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