I hear you on the joints... I don't do heavy anymore either, still get the results i want, more lean and striated... healthier for me too..
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I hear you on the joints... I don't do heavy anymore either, still get the results i want, more lean and striated... healthier for me too..
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BTW, I had moved the cream dosage up to 3x a day,but I think I got too much PSA from that. Dropped it back down to 2x a day, and things improved in like 3 days. The cream does have a short half life (like 3 hours) but I would not have guessed DHT and PSA would come down that fast. It COULD have been a bout of prostatitis, though I usually have to hit that with antibiotics.
I felt that extra bump of test though, especially in the libido department. From what I can tell, the cream brings more dht, less estrogen, at least as compared to injections. I've got some pharmacom test cyp I may experiment with shortly, either replacing the cream entirely or finding some best of both worlds approach. I suspect the former, but that cream is handy for traveling and what not.
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I'm enjoying this deload week. Evidently, I REALLLLLLY needed it. This is my second day off in a row, but I start back tomorrow with a light weight workout, or maybe a weighted walk and a weight workout Thursday. Don't know yet.
On a side note, I did get some goodies from ExpressPCT today. 50mg Enclomiphene (aka Enclofert) and some 5mg cialis to supplement the 5mg I am prescribed for BPH. I ordered on September 12 and got them today, so about a month from India. Package was sent via DHL and went India-> Singapore-> Germany-> Jacksonville, Florida and then USPS delivered from there.
I THINK that right now, Express is the only place to get pharma Enclomiphene, but don't quote me on that. Or do, I couldn't stop you. How would I know? Why would I bother?? Whatever, man, here are some pics of some stuff. Enjoy. Or don't, also don't let me tell you what to do with your life.
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And because this is a deload week, so there isn't a lot going on, and because, well, things just get kind of rando sometimes, one of the things you may not realize about Florida wildlife is that you can see this type of thing all the time. That is the next door neighbors yard, but they eventually weird walked their way through ours, too.
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Man, I could get used to this deload thing. I walked Thursday, and hit the weights lightly yesterday. I will do something today, probably LISS before doing some work on my old 5.0 Explorer. Technically, it needs several things: alternator, radiator, AC compressor and condenser but I'm trying to do one thing at a time. I will likely do the alternator this weekend, but the radiator and AC will wait. I don't drive it much (actually, I'm not driving much AT ALL, effin' 2020) so it isn't an issue to let it sit up. I COULD do the radiator and the AC separate, but I bought a new AC condenser and to get to it, you have to take out the radiator. Still, I don't think there is any refrigerant left in the AC system, so it shouldn't be too bad.
Workouts will begin in earnest on Monday and I'm likely to follow this same routine for another 30 days. After that, I will have a decision to make re continue recomp or do a proper cut. I'm starting to get stronger with this routine and that makes me happy, so I'm reluctant to change it right now.
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Goddangit, man! It's been another one of 'those weeks' so far. Everything went sideways on the job, and one of the feral cats we care for woke me up two nights in a row. But, that's all taken care of, so I slept good last night. I did miss workouts Monday and Tuesday, but that's ok. I know how to reprogram the week to get back on track next week.
Tonight will be squat and bench, plus HIIT with treadmill and heavy bag. Saturday will be deadlift and overhead press, HIIT being rowing machine plus kettle bell swings. Work in a day or two of LISS and I'll be back on schedule come Monday. Or maybe, I will just decide that Wednesday is the new starting day for the next month and just pick up squat day tonight. We will see.
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Super noobie question, but why clomid instead of trt?
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Thats what the doc started me on. I wanted to give it a try, and did, I just couldn't get it or enclomiphene to live up to the hype.Originally Posted by Livingabetterlife
I'm on 20% compounded test cream now, with hcg. Just waiting on bloodwork to come back to see how that is treating me.
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Ok, cool. Thank you for explaining. I did read today a bunch of stories of Drs prescribing trt AND clomid, and that seemed to cause some negative side effects emotions wise. People feeling worst on trt and clomid vs just on trt
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I have a write up on Enclomiphene (which is part of Clomid) that goes into a little detail on why clomid does what it does. I will include the link below.
TRT with Clomid (that is, both presribed testosterone and clomid) is a thing now and then, though I believe that is largely because a lot of docs are concerned about the availability of HCG since recent rulings in the US mean it isn't as readily available as it was. You can still get it, though. Anyhow, it is generally thought in the Iron Game that clomid will simply be overpowered by exogenous test and will only bring the negatives. I've not done bloodwork on that, though.
Link:
https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...formation.html
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Man, this week has genuinely shat on my head. But it's over now.
I was feeling a bit over trained / burnt out this week, so i just continued the deload and will pick things back up tomorrow (Sunday). I did get in a Squat + Bench workout on Wednesday, but that was all I did - Squat and Bench. Similar to 531 "I ain't doing sh!t". I was just totally burned this week and wasn't feeling it. I did get a 2 mile weighted walk in Thursday, 40lb vest in about 34 minutes. I can do that faster, but had my thinking cap on.
Anyhow, tomorrow I start back with the 4 workout per week plan, plus one more day of LISS. Gotta clean up the diet to finish this Covid comp with any real progress. Now on THAT (the cleaning up the diet), you can wish me luck!
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People often mistake being old and fat with being unhealthy. While I would rather be young and thin, I can take some comfort in the fact that my BP numbers look like this regularly.
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It turns out, yard work was the word of the day yesterday (Sunday). That also involved getting up on the roof and blowing out the gutters. We have Oak trees in our neighborhood and October is one of their shedding months. Acorns and leaves oh my. And since this is Florida, it was hotter than hades on the roof. Did some work on the rack (see below) and then hit the shower. That's OK, I got to see the best NFL matchup of single win teams as my Chargers beat the Jaguars. Both teams inconsistent but made things exciting.
Anyhow, workouts begin in earnest and I DO mean in earnest tonight. Yesterday, in addition to the yard work I mentioned, I moved two of the weight hangers on my rack from their position higher up on the rack to down low like the other two. When they were higher, they interfered with my squats sometimes. Tonights workout will be squats super setted with pullups (among other things) so I'm looking forward to that.
Oh, The Wife and I also voted yesterday. If you are in the US and can vote, maybe you should. I don't care WHO you vote for, just that you do. It's your call, though, I can respect the right to abstain.
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I feel ya...The acorns, leaves, and beach nuts have covered most of my neighborhood! Lol We have weather from the hurricane bringing in a lot of rain and wind so it’s only going to get worse!
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Chargers fan huh? I won’t hold that against you, especially because my Broncos are abysmal.
I do LOVE Austen Eckler though. He’s a Northern Colorado boy and from my neck of the woods. Went from a D3 school to a starting RB in the NFL...what’s not to love?!
Keep grinding brother!!
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I'm trying!
I have followed the Chargers since the days of Dan Fouts and Air Coryell. Been a lot of abysmal years for us Bolts fans, too. We have that rookie QB now, Herbert, that is doing well. Is he the next Manning Brady Brees Mahomes or Wilson? I can only hope. And we have Bosa and Ingram aka the Terrible Twosome on D.... Maybe not this year, but lets see what 2021 and 2022 bring.
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Many thanks BTW for not bragging about how awesomely the Broncos came back on the Chargers. We couldn't watch the game, but I saw the score at the half and was like cool!
Then Monday I checked the final. And there was a great expletive spoken.
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'Roids, man. Goddang 'roids.
Mine have been giving me so much sh!t the last two weeks, I had to take it easy last week AGAIN.
What? Cylon, I thought you just did Clomid and maybe some peps here and there? Have you joined us??
Oh, no I don't mean steroids. I mean hemorrhoids. I've been cursed with these jokers for years. About the past month or so, they have been REAL BAD. Like, bad enough where I'm talking to the doc in a couple of weeks about surgery. And I HATE surgery.
Butt (see what I did there) with all that said, this week has started off good. I had a good squat day yesterday and this morning did fasted LISS cardio (1.5 to 2 mile walk). And 'Lefty and Dapper Dan' aren't giving me near as much grief as they had been, so that's good. I have some Ipamorelin/ModGRF blend and Frag both from Peptide Sciences that I want to run soon. I was hoping to start this week, but if I'm going to have surgery, I'm thinking about holding off until after that to help heal.
This getting old stuff is for the birds. I guess it beats the alternative though!
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'Roids, man. Goddang 'roids.
Mine have been giving me so much sh!t the last two weeks, I had to take it easy last week AGAIN.
What? Cylon, I thought you just did Clomid and maybe some peps here and there? Have you joined us??
Oh, no I don't mean steroids. I mean hemorrhoids. I've been cursed with these jokers for years. About the past month or so, they have been REAL BAD. Like, bad enough where I'm talking to the doc in a couple of weeks about surgery. And I HATE surgery.
Butt (see what I did there) with all that said, this week has started off good. I had a good squat day yesterday and this morning did fasted LISS cardio (1.5 to 2 mile walk). And 'Lefty and Dapper Dan' aren't giving me near as much grief as they had been, so that's good. I have some Ipamorelin/ModGRF blend and Frag both from Peptide Sciences that I want to run soon. I was hoping to start this week, but if I'm going to have surgery, I'm thinking about holding off until after that to help heal.
This getting old stuff is for the birds. I guess it beats the alternative though!
If you haven’t, please get them looked at Cylon. Not being an alarmist at all, but that’s where I was in February and it turned out they weren’t roids, they were tumors. I’m sure yours are not, but in good conscience I need to say something. As I said, not being an alarmist, just sharing my stuff.
Keep up the awesome work
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I do appreciate it, brother, especially knowing where you have been.
I have an appointment to get them checked by the gastroenterologist in early December, but I'm almost certain that it is a hemi thing. This same doc did my colonoscopy a couple of years ago and was like 'yeah, I saw you have some old hemorrhoids. We can take care of that whenever you want or just wait.' I could provide more graphic details about being relatively sure they are hemis, but this is a family friendly site (HAHA) and besides, nobody wants to hear about my ass. NOBODY. (It's ok, I've come to terms with it.) Well, I take that back. The gastroenterologist seems to enjoy discussing it, but I think that is because he sees 'new margarita machine', not because I have an overly noteworthy butthole.
Still, better safe than sorry, especially with 2020 being how it is.
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Good bench workout last night, made better by a couple of things.
First, I have discovered that for dips, If I lean the top part of my body forward, and bring my knees towards my chest (kind of like doing knee raises), my chest gets BLASTED. I like it. I like it a LOT. I'm going to hurt tomorrow, but dang, I like that feeling of getting good, clean work in on a muscle group.
Second, over the past several months, I have been accumulating bits and pieces of an on the cheap pulley system for my rack. I got to put it to use last night, for both one arm cable flyes and tricep pushdowns. Both exercis
♫ Don't tell my tri's, my achey breaky tri's ♫
What the hell was that!?!? Billy Ray Cyrus?? Where in the hell did that come from??
Anyhow, both exercises went well, and I have a slightly longer cable on order to do low rows, etc. I'm looking forward to really being able to get things done. It looks a little rigged up, but it works and was one HELL of a lot less expensive than any dedicated equipment right now.
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Nice set-up!Good bench workout last night, made better by a couple of things.
First, I have discovered that for dips, If I lean the top part of my body forward, and bring my knees towards my chest (kind of like doing knee raises), my chest gets BLASTED. I like it. I like it a LOT. I'm going to hurt tomorrow, but dang, I like that feeling of getting good, clean work in on a muscle group.
Second, over the past several months, I have been accumulating bits and pieces of an on the cheap pulley system for my rack. I got to put it to use last night, for both one arm cable flyes and tricep pushdowns. Both exercis
♫ Don't tell my tri's, my achey breaky tri's ♫
What the hell was that!?!? Billy Ray Cyrus?? Where in the hell did that come from??
Anyhow, both exercises went well, and I have a slightly longer cable on order to do low rows, etc. I'm looking forward to really being able to get things done. It looks a little rigged up, but it works and was one HELL of a lot less expensive than any dedicated equipment right now.
I’m not a Charger’s fan, but watch their games now to see that QB. Holy cow does that kid have potential.
Rookie of the year? Potentially, but if they were winning.
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He does look good. But the last time they were REALLY good they had a running back with the initials LT. If they can get their running game a little stronger, then we get to see what the kid can do in the pocket. Still, after many years with Rivers, it is nice to have a QB that can seriously scramble.
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Last week started out good, but fizzled out. Those damn 'roids causing me issues.
This week, however, has been good so far. I've changed the program slightly to focus on more cutting, with a couple of days of weights, a day of dedicated LISS, and two days of non weight bearing HIIT.
I did the jog on treadmill, heavy bag, climber combo. Only two rounds of each for a total of 18 working minutes, but with intervals in all 3 exercises, I was beat. Plus I did a brisk mile to warm up and a slightly slower mile to cool down, so I got the work in.
It will be 3 rounds next week because, evidently, there is something broken in my head.
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Man, this week has been garbage. I'm just posting to say 'We will not let 2020 win'
Back at it tomorrow in earnest. I've been mixing up the program a little, kind of trying to decide where I want to go and what I want to do. Will post more later.
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Just happy you have something scheduled....
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So, I've been in a funk over the past couple of weeks. I seem to be coming out of it now. The hemi pain was causing part of it, but I also started playing with my meds.
I recently got my hands on some Enclomiphene from ExpressPCT and from Peptides Warehouse (yes, I know). Doing the math, I worked my weekly dosage out to somewhere near 50mg to be roughly the same as my 75mg Clomid. I ran that for about 3 weeks.
Either that dose isn't right or Enclomiphene doesn't work for me. I put two and two together and a few days ago, upped the dose and switched back to Clomid. Feeling better now. Looking forward to workout tomorrow!
Hemis are still a pain in the butt, literally, but I've added 2g of MSM per week to see if it helps. I've read a few accounts of people that have had relief with MSM and one guy that claims it totally resolved them. A bit of a stretch but if it can keep me out of surgery, I'm willing to give it a shot.
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Best of luck with the pain. Amazing how some things can just crush you because of the discomfort.
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Good squat workout tonight. Feeling much better after getting back on the proper dose of Clomid. I'll speak to that in more detail elsewhere.
Took it easy to get back to it and not anger the 'Evil Spirits of Planet Hema-Roid' but still got the work in. I'll ease back in and see how things go over the next several days, then kick it back into high (well, high-er) gear next week.
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Glad you’re feeling better!
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Thanks y'all! I'm dealing with it... Total first world problem, all in all. High fiber diet definitely helps.
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Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
I had a good squat workout Monday, and a good bench workout Tuesday. I had Wednesday off this week, but today it is back.
Note that I had 'back', not 'deadlift'. I'm taking deads out for a little while (well, at least for this week). They will be back at some point, cause I just can't help myself. Anyhow, I'm planning on focusing on lat width and overall density for the next little while. It should be 'fun'.
Definitely feeling better now that I got my doses back in line. Hemis are still an issue, but it is amazing what getting fiber in the diet can do for that. They are getting looked at in a couple of weeks, but I dang and I mean DANG sure don't want another surgery. But maybe, if that is what it needs.
Have a great day!
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Glad you’re having some improvement in pain; go fiber!
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Good back workout yesterday. It was kind of weird not setting up for deadlifts but my body didn't seem to mind. They will be back in at some point, just probably not once a week with squats in the same week. Well, unless the day comes that I decide to ditch the Clomid as HRT and go on the needle. Not that the needle is magic, but at that point, HELLO OTHER COMPOUNDS!
Anyhow, I did close grip pull downs to warm up, then did some wide grip chins, adding 25 pounds for my middle set. I only got 5 reps on that but could feel and see the lats swelling. Moved on to single arm pulldowns, face pulls and seated rows. Added in some calf work and bicep curls to round out the weights. 1 mile walk to warm up and 1 more to cool down. I'm learning Italian right now and the walk is the perfect time to listen to the lessons. Yes, that does mean I walk around the neighborhood speaking broken Italian to no one, but the neighbors are used to it from when I was learning Spanish.
As a total side note (well ok as a even larger side note), when I first started learning Spanish, sometimes I sounded Italian. Not like good Italian but like Mario from Mario Cart Italian. I wonder if I will sound Spanish while learning Italian? Not good Spanish mind you, but like Speedy Gonzalez Spanish.
Yes, this is how my brain works. You think it's hard to read? Try living it. Or possibly even more... entertaining? worse?, try living WITH it. The Wife is a very patient lady. She HAS broken me, by and large, of the habit of randomly singing Slayer's 'Angel of Death' in my Kermit the Frog voice at full volume, but it still happens on occasion.
Anyhow, lats are feeling a little achey this morning and I'm calling that a very good thing.
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Good news, bad news.
First the bad: the hemis are still acting up some. Heavy lifting seems to aggravate thembut high fiber diet seems to be helping. Appointment coming up soon, lets see what the surgeon says.
C'mon man, who am I kidding?? The surgeon is gonna say "Let's cut 'em out! I got a kid going to college!" Well, he won't say that last part, but we know he is thinking it. A fish gotta swim, a surgeon gotta cut.
Good news is that my HIIT'ish routine with the treadmill, heavy bag and climber does NOT aggravate the hemis. In fact, even my knee is behaving. I did three rounds tonight (27 total work minutes, maybe took 33 to complete) and the knee is just saying "hey, how you doin', big guy? Me, I'm not too bad."
In other words, my knee, which this time last year was hurting so bad I couldn't go up and down stairs without crazy pain, feels fine after a workout that put it through its paces. I did use the tight knee sleeves but did not use and don't feel the need to use diclofenac tonight. This is good.
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Definitely have some positives! That’s good! Maybe you’ll get lucky enough the surgeon will say wait? Who knows. Haha
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Some days, I would be like "come get 'em, doc!"
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I completely forgot about the straining with deads and squats. Those certainly don’t help.
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Dang, meant to add, I also have some Ostarine on hand, both from Rat's Army and Umbrella Labs. I'm thinking about running it at 5 to 10 mg per day with my HRT Clomid. I've read a few accounts of people avoiding shutdown with that combo. I will likely either up the clomid slightly or add in low dose (5mg per day) Nolvadex if I do that. The nolvadex would serve two purposes: regular SERM duties and possible evaluation of effects on BPH. We will see how that works out.
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Good overhead press workout for me yesterday, which was a good way to cap off a rather crappy but not horrible week.
BTW, this has ceased to be a Covid 2020 weight loss log, and has become just more of a general log. That is probably obvious...
Anyhow, I'm starting a dedicated program next week, similar to my original plan. I have an eval for possible surgery coming up and that may keep me from adding some of the peptides I have on hand, like Frag191 and Ipamorelin / ModGrf. If I'm going to need surgery, I would like to save AT LEAST the Ipamorelin / ModGRF until after that to help heal things. I may go ahead and start the Frag now or in the next week or so.
I also have on hand what may be the among the last of the injectable Thymosin Labs TB-500/BPC-157 7/3mg blend. I bought 4 vials about a month ago, and have 3 left over. They no longer seem to sell injectables. This makes me sad (well, OK disappointed) because they seemed like a legit vendor. They do still seem to sell oral products, but I've read that oral TB-500 is almost useless. Still, they have a good oral BPC-157 that I have used and an oral MK-677 / BPC-157 blend. I haven't used it, and probably won't because I get all Michelin Man from MK, though I would suspect it is a legit product.
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