Elections!!

[Test Monsterone]

TMO,

I have zero problems with you either, none. I appreciate your passion and your contributions here, this is not a personal attack so please don’t take it that way.

For one. I wasn’t standing up for Beetle, not sure how we got disconnected there but we can quickly clear that up.

Secondly, you bet your ass I care about my mortgage and my retirement. That’s my legacy and it’s extremely important to protect what I’ve spent a lifetime building (it’s what I leave for my children...do you have any?). Through hard work and persistence...nothing else. I sure as shit won’t be an apologist for that, or the color of my skin, my gender of whatever the fuck else I’ve been made to feel ashamed of. I’m not sticking up for Trump, he’s an ass. There are some issues he’s supported and some stances that he’s made that I can get behind. His delivery is embarrassing and often times and he can’t get out of his own way.

The last time I checked we live in a free market society and capitalism isn’t a bad word. You can take all the issues with it you want, but don’t push what’s important to you, upon me. If anyone should be upset with some of Trumps taxations, it’s a guy like me. I won’t even get started on my thoughts on welfare and the disgusting violations of standardized health care and social services.

I took issue with your characterization of the entire GOP based off of your beliefs. For every “fact”, there’s one to counter it. You called out supporters as “mouth breathers” and questioned their intellect. There’s plenty of people that supported him TMO, are they all idiots? Remind me again what makes you the authority on what is and isn’t?

You do make it personal when you characterize like that and generalize based off of your beliefs. You haven’t heard me say much on this topic because this is exactly what I’m trying to avoid. You can support whatever candidate you want and pray to whatever god you choose, that’s what makes this country so great. I took a stand based simply off of your generalizations.

I love this country but I don’t share in your division that was the result of one man. Zero accountability on the radical left and the chaos that was inflicted upon this great nation as a result. However, I don’t generalize an entire party based solely off of one fragments actions. Have you seen the radical right take to the streets and loot? Can you really say that shit wouldn’t be upside down right now had Trump won? I can’t even imagine what would be happening in Portland, Seattle or Philadelphia.

That’s all besides the point. My issue again was how you chose to generalize anyone that stood behind the man that THIS country elected 4 years ago. Was he George fucking Washington...no. Do I deserve to have my intellect called into question because I voted for him? You can choose to think so, because it’s a free country, but I’d never call you a moron for thinking Joe fucking Biden is going to deliver us to the promised land. I would just respectfully disagree to myself, not come to boards and call out you and anyone else that disagreed with me.

That’s all I’m saying bro. All good.

I took the bait, shame on me. I’m ready to move on.

You talk about protesters as the left, but those are just some 19/20 year olds who have nothing better to do than to go cause trouble. I don't agree with any of that, but I believe it is, in large part, due to Donald Trump's rhetoric and verbal attacks, direct or indirect, on minority groups (and his essential support of hate groups). He is the president, he sets the precedence... He holds the responsibility of healing the nation, bringing us together, disavowing racist groups and violence on the streets. He has been one sided. He is a narcissist, so he takes side with whoever is on his side, good or bad. Is there a wonder why we have seen so many more hate groups take a forefront on the world stage and in politics? What does it say when the KKK, Proud Boys, and all these other hate groups all support Donald Trump? What does it say when he says there are fine people on both sides?

I personally don't have any kids, but I know many successful people and very close family members with kids that don't base their voting decision on some tax cut on the rich or temporary effect on their 401k. One look at Trump's autocratic, demagogue-esque behavior during his first election campaign was enough to set off alarms that this guy is not right in the head and will bring this country to chaos. He did. It has happened. Covid or not, this was not looking good. 4 more years and we will have been more divided as a nation. Do you think further division, hate, chaos, riots, corruption from the top down, is good for your portfolio? Do you want your kids to grow up in that type of environment? A successful country is more than just a solid stock market. If the core of a nation is corrupt, everything will be spoiled, including the economy.

You have travelled the world with work, so you must know how we were viewed with the Donald Trump presidency. I too have travelled, in fact I have 3 citizenships. I spent time in a communist country with a history of autocrats and dictators much resembling Donald Trump. Their constituents much resembled his supporters. That's why I get fired up. Because I can see the bullshit right in front of me, and apparently a large portion of people don't seem to care.

Do I agree with everything on the left? No. But I cannot, with a clean conscience, support a group or person who fights dirty, who attacks, deflects, lies, corrupts and makes a mockery of the democratic and political system. Donald Trump is now gone, good riddance. The good thing is, everyone gets to benefit from this, not just those who voted for Biden. The entire world benefits when the icon of democracy remains, in fact, a democracy.

All respect to you and anyone else on here who I have disrespected in any way (except Beetlegeuse the terrible).

[ghettoboyd]

^^^well said brother...i couldn't agree more...im impressed by your character more and more each day... you are a good man...respect...

[SampsonandDelilah]

Agree to disagree, cool?

I don’t have it in me and frankly we could go back and forth for days/weeks/months/years.

You have your opinions and I’ll respect that, my hope is that you can respect mine as well.

I’m always baffled that people think Pepsi tastes better than Coke, I mean no fucking way is Pepsi better. Yet, people love it.

We have different tastes, those rights are respected.

If there was a white flag emoji, I’d wave it.

Wishing you a wonderful week.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Agree to disagree, cool?

I don’t have it in me and frankly we could go back and forth for days/weeks/months/years.

You have your opinions and I’ll respect that, my hope is that you can respect mine as well.

I’m always baffled that people think Pepsi tastes better than Coke, I mean no fucking way is Pepsi better. Yet, people love it.

We have different tastes, those rights are respected.

If there was a white flag emoji, I’d wave it.

Wishing you a wonderful week.

[< <Samson> >]

Funny - after my health “event(s)”

I wouldn’t even devote more than 30 secs on politics or nonsense “news”

Wait - maybe that was 35

[Test Monsterone]

Funny - after my health “event(s)”

I wouldn’t even devote more than 30 secs on politics or nonsense “news”

Wait - maybe that was 35

I don’t blame you. I really don’t want to have to get all political. I stopped watching TV years ago and it’s helped with my mood lol, but now... You’re right though, we’re just along for the ride. Health is everything. Hope you’re doing good. You should update your thread sometime. Let us know how the mini cycle is going, if you’re still running it.

[jackal55]

I don’t blame you. I really don’t want to have to get all political. I stopped watching TV years ago and it’s helped with my mood lol, but now... You’re right though, we’re just along for the ride. Health is everything. Hope you’re doing good. You should update your thread sometime. Let us know how the mini cycle is going, if you’re still running it.

Might I ask what you're running right now? (lets forget politics and discuss something serious for once... STEROIDS)

[AwareXx]

Bi Den won! So trump "by then".

[Cuz]

Bi Den won! So trump "by then".

You know you have to be 18 to join the forum right? You sound like a child.

[XnavyHMCS]

These type of "big player" guys (and perhaps gals) have egos, the size of which fit their perceived status... It must be nearly impossible for a person of that caliber to admit defeat; to simply say that today I was bested by another competitor. Perhaps, denial make everything easier.

Hell, I voted for Trump...

The nation, along with the rest of the world, has way too much to consider at this moment.

If in fact the incumbent has lost, then when the votes are finally counted, he should man up, ensure a smooth transition, and let history pas the final judgement on his term in office.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Have you ever watched UK news? For people who are accustomed to watching UK news stations such as 'BBC News' and 'Sky News', American news is like replacing Tom Hanks in the movie Forest Gump with the character that Bruce Willis played in Die Hard. You guys are just full of drama, and we Europeans find it rather repulsive. Although you're not nearly as bad as the Thai news stations that show dead bodies on 6pm news.

[Honkey_Kong]

Have you ever watched UK news? For people who are accustomed to watching UK news stations such as 'BBC News' and 'Sky News', American news is like replacing Tom Hanks in the movie Forest Gump with the character that Bruce Willis played in Die Hard. You guys are just full of drama, and we Europeans find it rather repulsive. Although you're not nearly as bad as the Thai news stations that show dead bodies on 6pm news.

I hear out there in europe, you have naked chicks reading the news.