You'll want to read this!

[BJJ]

Did they check your hemocrit levels? That's the biggie!

Well, this is what I have done:
No HCT or PCV check but a cross check between MCV and RDW.
Not enough in your opinion?

The following results after:

38 Days of Testosterone Suspension averaged at 73,94 mg ed.
38 Days of Mesterolone averaged at 88,81 mg ed.
17 Days of Oxandrolone averaged at 68,82 mg ed.

Never used any AI or SERM so far.
?: awaiting results

__________________________________________________ _________________Day 38

BLOOD
ERYTHROCYTES: 5,08 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]______________________________________4,65
LEUCOCYTES: 7,6 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________14,4
- NE: 4,2 / 55,9 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]
- LY: 2,5 / 35 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]
- MO: 0,7 / 8,7 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]
- EO: 0,3 / 2,5 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]
- BA: 0 / 0,6 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]
HEMOGLOBIN: 15,1 gr/dl [14 - 18]___________________________________________13,2
HEMATOCRIT: 44,2 % [42 - 52]_____________________________________________39,8
MCV: 87 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________85,6
MCH: 29,7 picogr. [27 - 31]________________________________________________28,4
MCHC: 34,2 gr/dl [32 - 36]_________________________________________________33,2
RDW: 13,7 % [11,6 - 16]
GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 65,7 % [37 -80]________________________________________76,4
GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,8 % [0,0 - 7]_________________________________________0,5
GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,9 % [0,0 - 2,5]_________________________________________0,8
LYMPHOCYTES: 23,4 % [10 - 50]____________________________________________16
MONOCYTES: 7,2 % [0,0 - 12]______________________________________________6,3
PLATELETS: 150000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]_________________________________362000
PCT: 0,13 % [0,1 - 1]
MPV: 7,5 fl [5 - 10]
PDW: 17,5 % [12 - 18]

HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
GLYCEMIA (basal): 91 mg/dl [70 - 110]

QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s
PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 71 % [70-130]
INR: 1,2
APTT: 28 s
FIBRINOGEN: 190 mg/dl [180 - 350]
HOMOCYSTEINE: 11 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]
MYOGLOBIN: 27 ng/ml [10 - 46]

AZOTEMIA: 62 mg/dl [15-40]______________________________________________46
CREATININE: 1,1 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]__________________________________________1,2
HYPERURICEMIA: 6 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]

CHOLESTEROL TTL: 156 mg/dl [140 - 220]___________________________________142
CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 35 mg/dl [20 - 40]
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 103 mg/dl [< 150]_______________________________________130
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 35 mg/dl [> 40]_________________________________________12
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,5 [till 5]________________________________________________11,8
APO A1: 190 mg/dl [115 - 220]
APO B: 79 mg/dl [55 - 125]
RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]
TRIGLYCERIDES: 90 mg/dl [< 150]

GAMMA (YGT): 32 u/ltr [15 - 85]___________________________________________27
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 96 u/ltr [50 - 136]_________________________________57
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1 mg/dl [0,2-1]
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,25 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 0,67 mg/dl [till 0,7]
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 26 u/ltr [15 - 37]__________________________________63
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 62 u/ltr [30 - 65]__________________________________104
FERRITIN: 125 ng/ml [24 - 336]

LIPASE: 324 u/ltr [114 - 284]______________________________________________234
AMYLASE: 69 u/ltr [25 - 115]______________________________________________66

LDH: 170 u/ltr [100 - 190]
CPK MB: 230 u/ltr [35 - 232]
CK NAK: 160 u/l [till 167]
PROTIDES TTL: 7,5 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]
ALBUMIN: 60 % [51 - 63,3]
ALFA 1: 3 % [2,2 - 4,3]
ALFA 2: 10 % [9,5 - 14]
BETA: 11 % [10-14,5]
GAMMA: 19 % [12 - 20]
A/G RATIO: 1,45 [1,0 - 1,7]

PSA: 0,6 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ ___1,23
PSA FREE: 0,23
PSA FREE/TTL: 0,38 [>0,15]
PAP: 1,3 ng/ml [till 3,5]__________________________________________________ _1,5

IGG: 1455 mg/dl [681 - 1648]
IGA: 309 mg/dl [87 - 474]
IGD: 55 u/ml [till 100]
IGM: 101 mg/dl [48 - 312]
IGE (prist): 39,07 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]

INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,15 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HCV-Ab: 0,12 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HBS-Ag: 0,35 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]
HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,07 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
TAS: 111 ui/ml [0 - 166]
VDRL: negative [negative]
CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]
REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]
ESR: 6 mm/h [till 15]
LYSOZYME: 9 picog/ml [4 - 13]
ACE: 10 mcg/l [6 - 12]

RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]

VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
VITAMIN A: 630 mcg/l [300-650]
VITAMIN E: 15,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]
VITAMIN C: 1,1 mg/ml [0,5-1,5]
VITAMIN B12: 697 pg/ml [179 - 1162]
VITAMIN D3: 42 ng/ml [10-45]
VITAMIN H: 85 ng/ml [70-100]
VITAMIN K: 25 mcg/ml [15-30]
VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5-0,8]

SODIUM: 143 meq/l [136 - 145]
POTASSIUM: 4,5 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]
CALCIUM: 9,4 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]
MAGNESIUM: 2,1 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]
PHOSPHORUS: 3,8 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]
IRON: 147 mcg/dl [35 - 150]
ZINC: 101 mcg/dl [80 - 125]
CHLORINE: 105 meq/l [98 - 107]
COPPER: 111 ku/l [76 - 153]

HORMONAL
GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28-125]
MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
INSULIN: 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]
GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40-130]
ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]________________________________________12,45
FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]________________________________________________3,95
FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________1,62
MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
HTG: 9,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]_____________________________________________2,48
FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55
LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15
PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68
SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6
ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150
ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12
IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 424]_______________________________________________159
HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]

URINE
COLOUR: straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: limpid [limpid]
PH REACTION: 5,7 [5 - 6,5]
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1021 [1015 - 1028]
PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0,0 - 10]
HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0,0 - 0,2]
KETONE BODIES: none [none]
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0,0 - 0,2]
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]
NITRITE: none [none]

FAECES
SHAPE: homogeneous [homogeneous]
CONSISTENCY: poltacea[/COLOR] [poltacea]
COLOUR: brown [brown]
ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]
MUCUS: absent [absent]
BLOOD: absent [absent]
PH REACTION: 7
PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]
SALMONELLA: negative [negative]
HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]
GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]

SPERM
VOLUME: 2,9 ml [>= 2]__________________________________________________ __?
PH: 7,9 [7,2-8]__________________________________________________ ________?
APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _____?
VISCOSITY: within limits [within limits]______________________________________?
FLUIDIFICATION 45': physiologic [physiologic]________________________________?
SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 90.000.000 /ml [>= 20.000.000]______________?
EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.900.000 [>= 40.000.000]______________?
2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 59 % [>= 50 %]_______________________________________?
TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 36 % [>= 35 %]______________________?
ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %______________________________?
LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<= 1.000.000]____________________________________?
ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]_______________________________________?
GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]________________________________________?
EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]_______________________________________?
SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_____________________________?

BLOOD PRESSURE
__________________________________Day 1__________Day 8__________Day 15__________Day 22__________Day 29__________Day 36__________Day 43
SYS (mmHg)___________________________119____________119____________123____________119_____________128____________131_____________105
DIA (mmHg)____________________________60_____________50_____________52_____________50______________56_____________51______________42
BPM__________________________________68_____________74_____________68_____________64______________67_____________76______________73

[Moosedog]

what a cool post, thank you ronnie

It make s a lot of sense, I like the ideo of 8 weeks to instead of dragging out the whole 12, as after all whats the point if you got to use so much gear for the final 4 weeks that you mess yourself up!

And the 12 set per body part rules, its what I use atm

[onetobeat]

read your post and you seem like the perfect person to ask for a bit of guidance.

about 5 years ago i tried this.
my fisrt cycle was only Dbol, but had no clue really what i was doing, then i went on to sustanon and deca, without really having any clue to that either in hind sight so results didn't really turn out that well.

Now i've decided to go on an oral only cycle and seems to me that anavar stacked with primobolan is the best cycle if you compare gains to side effects.

i'm 23 years old 6ft 3" 202 pounds.

looking to get ripped, build some size and strenght, any advise on an 8 week cycle including PCT?

thank you.

[Juicedupmonkey]

read your post and you seem like the perfect person to ask for a bit of guidance.

about 5 years ago i tried this.
my fisrt cycle was only Dbol, but had no clue really what i was doing, then i went on to sustanon and deca, without really having any clue to that either in hind sight so results didn't really turn out that well.

Now i've decided to go on an oral only cycle and seems to me that anavar stacked with primobolan is the best cycle if you compare gains to side effects.

i'm 23 years old 6ft 3" 202 pounds.

looking to get ripped, build some size and strenght, any advise on an 8 week cycle including PCT?

thank you.

Haha there's another one... Read The old posts on this thread

[Archangel.]

Haha there's another one... Read The old posts on this thread

Bro, tell me about it lol. I feel bad for Ron sometimes. People just refuse to READ

[Ronnie Rowland]

read your post and you seem like the perfect person to ask for a bit of guidance.

about 5 years ago i tried this.
my fisrt cycle was only Dbol, but had no clue really what i was doing, then i went on to sustanon and deca, without really having any clue to that either in hind sight so results didn't really turn out that well.

Now i've decided to go on an oral only cycle and seems to me that anavar stacked with primobolan is the best cycle if you compare gains to side effects.

i'm 23 years old 6ft 3" 202 pounds.

looking to get ripped, build some size and strenght, any advise on an 8 week cycle including PCT?

thank you.

Please go read this thread if you want to learn how to do things properly. An oral only cycle is a very bad idea IMO. Test should always make up the base of any cycle!

[littledude]

well you guys are nice. sorry if its bothering you ronnie i have one last question iof thats alright. could you tell me if this is an alright first cycle:
week 1-8 500mg test enanthate ew
week 9-10 250mg test enanthate
week 11-18 750mg test enanthate ew
all throughout i take 25mg proviron twice a day
PCT week 19-22 would be my deload and primer with nolvadex
is this a decent cycle for me?

[Ronnie Rowland]

well you guys are nice. Sorry if its bothering you ronnie i have one last question iof thats alright. Could you tell me if this is an alright first cycle:
Week 1-8 500mg test enanthate ew
week 9-10 250mg test enanthate
week 11-18 750mg test enanthate ew should be 11-20 weeks right here!
all throughout i take 25mg proviron twice a day
pct week 19-22 would be my deload and primer with nolvadex
is this a decent cycle for me? You need hcg and nolvadex for pct/GO READ MY PCT

above

[delta1111]

Why is it that people think that they can speak for Ronnie?
I have read through every page of this post and get the feeling that Ronnie is a very patient man.
Yes I agree that some of these questions have been answered before and that Ronnie may or may not find some of these questions a little bit irritating, however, I would never presume to know how Ronnie feels about this and I would never consider speaking on his behalf. I think that is desrespectful. I'm sure you think you are doing him a favour and you may indeed be, but, if it was me you were speaking for, I would rather you kept your opinions to yourself and allow me to speak for myself.

A kind note to Ronnie:
I addition to reading this post, I have read many others on this forum and I am pleased to say that this stands out from the rest for a few reasons: firstly, I have been using your slingshot system for a while now and i'm on my 3rd reload. I am seeing results I have never seen before when cycling. Secondly, You are always prompt and thorough with your replies. Thirdly, many of the other posts seem to be very condicending, particularly to first time ass users. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing "use the search" or "this question has been asked before". The lengthly replies some people get of somebody whining, they may as well of just answered their question in the first place. Fortunately, this post doesn't seem to have that kind of theme, which is great and is the main reason I check it daily.
This is just my opinion Ronnie so if you think i'm out of order then please tell me, but I will only be taking note of your comments, only your opinion counts. I just don't want any bickering on this post, only good solid information.
Many thanks as always.

[creactiveprotein]

Ronnie your thoughts on this cycle before a show?

Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie your thoughts on this cycle before a show?

Week #1: 4 iu's gh/day; 4 x sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

week #2: 4 iu's gh/day; 5 x sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

week #3: 4 iu's gh/day; 5 x sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 2 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #4: 4 iu's gh/day; 6 x sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 2 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #5: 6iu's gh/day; 6 x sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 3 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #6: 6 iu's gh/day; 6 x sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 3 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #7: Off; 5000 iu hcg/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. Caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. Only)

week #8: Off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. Caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. Only)

week #9: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 300 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #10: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 300 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)

week #11: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #12: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #13: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-v (100 mg. Each m-w-f); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #14: 6 iu's gh/day; 1500 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-v (100 mg. Each m-w-f); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #15: Off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


**week #16: Off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x clenbuterol tab (sun, mon, tue only), 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)

next post!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie your thoughts on this cycle before a show?

Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

A few thoughts up front-this pre-contest cycle makes zero sense too me! I would taper off deca 4-6 weeks out. Stop all slow acting test at least 2 weeks out from show unless using diurectic and letro. Keep in winstrol until morning of the show to stay hard and keep cortisol levels down. By taking out all steroids a week before the show you run the risk of coming in flat and puffy! Clenbuterol and ephedrine works on the same receptors so alternating the two fat burners in hopes of preventing adaption is not going to work. You should not take burners for 16 weeks straight (only 8-weeks max). Forget taking benadryl to upregulate receptors as it does not work! You should use letro instead of nolvadex during last 2-4 weeks as it gets rid of about 98% of all estrogen-hence helps with cuts and separation. Teslac would not be my first choice either as it's too weak. GH dosages should remain the same every week (6-8 ius ed for entire 16 weeks). above

[littledude]

where is the best spot to inject test enanthate?

[delta1111]

where is the best spot to inject test enanthate?

In the ass. I do all my injections there, alternating from left to right cheek. Don't see the point in doing it anywhere else. Just make sure you use long needles as there is a lot of fat in those areas which you need to go through to reach muscle. Pretty much pain free unless you go through a vien or nerve and then its still not that bad.

[Ronnie Rowland]

In the ass. I do all my injections there, alternating from left to right cheek. Don't see the point in doing it anywhere else. Just make sure you use long needles as there is a lot of fat in those areas which you need to go through to reach muscle. Pretty much pain free unless you go through a vien or nerve and then its still not that bad.

You've got to inject other places than the glutes once you reach a certain level due to scar tissue build up. The lower-lateral delts and outer chest region is the best IMO!

[pike1237]

so with the 8 wk reload would you have to take significantly high dosages? and would you keep your dosing the same throughout all the reload periods or would you need up doasages as you go along or switch to different compounds to keep getting gains? and my understanding is that that is nt neccessarily a good idea for cutting? thanks

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, hoping you could help - i have trouble putting thickness around the wrists etc. my arms and top of my forearms are bulky but i cant seem to add the thickness and denseness around the bottom of my forearms and wrists. my quads are calves are also very thick but then around the ankles i cant add bulk and it can get painful because its difficult for my wrists and ankles to support the mass. i think it may be because my weight has fluctuated over the years. i used to weigh around 180 pounds when i was 16-18 i then dropped to about 110 pounds and got very lean but weak i then bulked up to my weight now which is around 250 pounds at 21 years of age but its taken its toll i think as i cant go on the tradmill for over 10 mins without my ankles and shins hurting like hell. anything you could suggest?
also do you think that training a problem area at the end of the week say friday (if the weekend were off days) would be better as it would allow nutrients to be prioritised for those muscle groups because of the rest days. and also for that reason should carbs be kept high? i usually reduce them on off days but since ive kept them high ive noticed improvement. thankyou ronnie youre advice is very much appreciated. thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, hoping you could help - i have trouble putting thickness around the wrists etc. My arms and top of my forearms are bulky but i cant seem to add the thickness and denseness around the bottom of my forearms and wrists. it's your genetics! I do wrist curls and reverse wrist curls faithfully and have the exact same problem as you. Nothing you can do-sorry! my quads are calves are also very thick but then around the ankles i cant add bulk and it can get painful because its difficult for my wrists and ankles to support the mass. dorian yates had low calves due to his genetics not his training routine. Once again, you cannot change this! i think it may be because my weight has fluctuated over the years. I used to weigh around 180 pounds when i was 16-18 i then dropped to about 110 pounds and got very lean but weak i then bulked up to my weight now which is around 250 pounds at 21 years of age but its taken its toll i think as i cant go on the tradmill for over 10 mins without my ankles and shins hurting like hell. Anything you could suggest? lose bodyfat and stop bulking. It's unhealthy and uneccesary!also do you think that training a problem area at the end of the week say friday (if the weekend were off days) would be better as it would allow nutrients to be prioritised for those muscle groups because of the rest days. no! and also for that reason should carbs be kept high? not if you are having problems gaining weight. I think calories/carbs should be leg training day as they are more demanding to train but i think you need to lose weight before you begin having heart trouble! buti usually reduce them on off days but since ive kept them high ive noticed improvement. Thankyou ronnie youre advice is very much appreciated. [b]how many carbs and fats per day are you taking in on training days verses non-training days?[/b]thanks

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[ricky23]

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thanks for replying ronnie. yeah my bodyfat percentage is low as ive always been on the lean side. i started cycling in december and ive increased in weight by around 30lbs and since then my joints just seem to ache. i always do cardio on rest days (2 off days) and am fairly lean. up until a month ago my off days included only 200g of carbs and 40g of fats as opposed to the training days when i have 600g carbs and 70g fats - my protein always stays at 400-500g. but recently ive increased my carbs to 400-500g on off days, not sure if this would be beneficial or just a hindrance. my current cycle is 1200mg of tri-test and 450mg of tri-tren (with anti-e's on hand and hcg and clomid for pct).
please let me know what you think.

[AssyrianKingz]

what form of steroids are used to rip and shred up the body rather than bloat the body? i usually see people who are just puffed up and bloated but then i see others who have perfect muscle symmetry and are cut up.

[Ronnie Rowland]

what form of steroids are used to rip and shred up the body rather than bloat the body? I usually see people who are just puffed up and bloated but then i see others who have perfect muscle symmetry and are cut up.

test/d-bol/anadrol bloats the body while tren/winnie/masterone increases hardness but when an anti-es is added to testosterone (especially letro) you are basically turning it into a non-aromatizing steroid which will also hardens the body.

[wigey15]

hi im 19 years old and have been tring to get big for years iv tried all the suppments out there and dieting to but it does not help i was thinking of taking steroids but need help with knowing what to take and how to take them ect.. could any one help thanks dan

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ron...in this thread... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=427575 you say loading earlier in the week is better? why do you think skiploading... is superior to shitload???thanks in advance big guy..

[VASCULAR VINCE]

one more thing ron..should i do less sets or more sets...toward end of my contrest prep... using slingshot carb cycling-150 cabs each day with one load day on sat????

[Ronnie Rowland]

one more thing ron..should i do less sets or more sets...toward end of my contrest prep... using slingshot carb cycling-150 cabs each day with one load day on sat???? Do fewer sets during last the 4-6 weeks of contest prep as there will be less fuel to keep pushing with great intensity for multiple sets. You also run the risk of over-training once you start adding cardio and becoming depleted of carbs. Also, there will be less water/fat between joints to prevent inflammation/injury so less is more as you progress.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

ron...in this thread... http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=427575 you say loading earlier in the week is better? why do you think skiploading... is superior to shitload???thanks in advance big guy..

Both ways can work. I like skiploading because there is less margin for error. If you wake up the morning of the show and look a bit flat you simply add in some junk carbs/fats/sodium while restricting water. If you look good simply eat your normal meal wihtout water which would be oats, ezekiel bread and eggs (with some salt added) for me.

I do not like using diurectics as it's dangerous and more often than not can ruin one's peak by causing them to go flat. It can also kill you as many have ended up in the emergency room after a show and for what? A trophy that will one day gather dust?! Also, diurectics are known for causing cramping on stage.

The muscles are 75% water so depleting water to the extreme causes your muscles to deflate. Diurectics also can cause sleepiness and who wants to be sleepy the day of the show? Not me! I want to be fired up and excited not feeling like death.

NOTE: Most people look their best doing low to moderate carbs near the show, being fully hydrated and taking in some sodium. When you dehydrate too much, take out table salt and gorge on carbs, you are just asking for problems IMO.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

Both ways can work. I like skiploading because there is less margin for error. If you wake up the morning of the show and look a bit flat you simply add in some junk carbs/fats/sodium while restricting water. If you look good simply eat your normal meal wihtout water which would be oats, ezekiel bread and eggs (with some salt added) for me.

I do not like using diurectics as it's dangerous and more often than not can ruin one's peak by causing them to go flat. It can also kill you as many have ended up in the emergency room after a show and for what? A trophy that will one day gather dust?! Also, diurectics are known for causing cramping on stage.

The muscles are 75% water so depleting water to the extreme causes your muscles to deflate. Diurectics also can cause sleepiness and who wants to be sleepy the day of the show? Not me! I want to be fired up and excited not feeling like death.

NOTE: Most people look their best doing low to moderate carbs near the show, being fully hydrated and taking in some sodium. When you dehydrate too much, take out table salt and gorge on carbs, you are just asking for problems IMO.

a big thank you...ronnie...your freaking brillant...should potassium be increased????

[Coca Cola]

Ronnie

I've read one of your post saying that its ok to jump back to another cycle straight after pct without any off time, is this correct?

I have plan like this:

After I finish my 20 weeks cycle, I will do a full pct for 4 weeks (from week 21-24), then on week 25 I will begin the next 20 weeks slingshot cycle. What do you think about this?

In regards to the training:

On week 19-20 = I will do deload phase of training

On week 21-22 (while on pct still supported by hcg 2500iu eod) = I will go back to reload phase

On week 23 (still on pct but without any hcg) = I will go back to deload phase

On week 24 (still on pct also no hcg) = I will stop training for a week to prime for the next cycle

On week 25 (jump back on cycle) = start reload phase again

Is this good?

Now in regards to the use HCG for the next cycle:

I was thinking of doing 250iu twice a week, but since in week 21 and 22 I'll be using a fairly high dose of hcg, and I will start back another cycle on week 25, this only gives me 2 weeks break between HCG if I decided to use it from the beginning of the next cycle, now I'm not sure if 2 weeks break between hcg is enough time? If its not enough should I just do another Full PCT again instead of running HCG throughout?


Thanks Ronnie!

[Ronnie Rowland]

a big thank you...ronnie...your freaking brillant...should potassium be increased????

Never! Sodium needs to be about 4x higher than potassium to keep electrolyes in balance. Do not take potassium supplements for your contest prep as it can mess you up.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi im 19 years old and have been tring to get big for years iv tried all the suppments out there and dieting to but it does not help i was thinking of taking steroids but need help with knowing what to take and how to take them ect.. could any one help thanks dan

read this thread-test e at 500 mgs per week is best for beginners!

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, could you please tell me the best way to dry up water retention and how to properly take anti-e's if gyno appears, i know that taking anti-estrogens could potentially hinder gains if not cycled right. im going to reduce my carb intake now, so it'll be 500g of protein a day with 200g of carbs and 50g of fats - what do you think? would the carb intake be sufficient enough for good gains or is too low. thanks again ronnie, you're advice is really helping me out.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, could you please tell me the best way to dry up water retention and how to properly take anti-e's if gyno appears, i know that taking anti-estrogens could potentially hinder gains if not cycled right. im going to reduce my carb intake now, so it'll be 500g of protein a day with 200g of carbs and 50g of fats - what do you think? would the carb intake be sufficient enough for good gains or is too low. thanks again ronnie, you're advice is really helping me out.

A few questions I need to ask!

1) What do you feel your body fat levels are at this point?
2) What are you running and please provide doses?
3) How much do you weigh?
4) Have you ever had gyno in past?
5) Have you ever used anti-es in the past?

[ricky23]

A few questions I need to ask!

1) What do you feel your body fat levels are at this point?
2) What are you running and please provide doses?
3) How much do you weigh?
4) Have you ever had gyno in past?
5) Have you ever used anti-es in the past?

thanks ronnie,
- my bodyfat is between 13-15% so fairly lean but could be better, used to be around 7 or 8% a couple of years ago
- im running 1200mg of tri-test and 450mg of tri-trenbolone
- i weigh 240 pounds
- no ive never had gyno before and ive never taking anti-es before
- im 21 years old

thanks ronnie. the only query i had with the carbs off-season is that kai greene keeps them relatively low off season whereas dorian yates used to have over
700g a day supposedly. i guess it depends on the body type and metabolism. thanks again ronnie.

[Ronnie Rowland]

thanks ronnie,
- my bodyfat is between 13-15% so fairly lean but could be better, used to be around 7 or 8% a couple of years ago
- im running 1200mg of tri-test and 450mg of tri-trenbolone there's no way of keeping down water retention without using anti-es when running 1200 mgs of test per week but keeping carbs/salt lower and water intake high will help some. You might opt to reduce test to 300-500 mgs per week and use anabolics like tren, winstrol and masterone as main muscle builders- i weigh 240 pounds
- no ive never had gyno before and ive never taking anti-es before them don't even worry about it! You could keep some aromasin on hand in case it ever appeared and use it at 12.5mgs eod)- im 21 years old

thanks ronnie. The only query i had with the carbs off-season is that kai greene keeps them relatively low off season whereas dorian yates used to have over
700g a day supposedly. I guess it depends on the body type and metabolism. it does depend on metabolism and dorian was probably using so much insulin he flet the need for extra carbs thanks again ronnie.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, could you please tell me the best way to dry up water retention and how to properly take anti-e's if gyno appears, i know that taking anti-estrogens could potentially hinder gains if not cycled right. Im going to reduce my carb intake now, so it'll be 500g of protein a day with 200g of carbs and 50g of fats - what do you think? looks fine other than the 500 grams of protein! the carb intake be sufficient enough for good gains or is too low. many can build just fine on 200 gras of carbs. I know i can so unless your metabolism is on fire you should be fine. Your protein needs to be reduced to around 400 per day at your current body weight as 500 is a bit high. The extra protein will get convereted over to carbs through glucogenesis and this puts a strain on the body after a while! tthanks again ronnie, you're advice is really helping me out.

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[ricky23]

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thankyou ronnie for taking the time out to answer everyones questions, its very appreciated. sorry i made a mistake regarding the weight, ive lost bf so im down to about 8% but my bodyweight has actually increased to 266 pounds. i think youre right about the protein being high but at this weight it should be ok. im taking 3 50g protein shakes a day to help with protein intake but i really believe that food is better than any supplement so im going to add more beef to my diet in place of the shakes. im currently having a pound of beef a day but i want to double the amount, also what do you make of people having 800g or so of protein a day? i read that kai greene eats 8lbs of beef a day and some strongmen competitors have 1kg of protein a day!
thanks ronnie for your input.

[youngrab]

have you ever heard of ascorbol

[Ronnie Rowland]

have you ever heard of ascorbol

I think it might be a drug for hairloss but I know nothing about it.

[alpenguy]

Ronnie great read...alot of it, whew. Question on bridging. You made a comment on a Nolva only which intrigued me Going to start a cycle now..thinking of 8 weeks Test/Deca - 2 weeks nolva 20mgs. day and then 8 weeks Test/Deca. PCT Nolva 40/20/20/20/20. HCG final 2 weeks of cycle @500iu ED. ??

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie great read...alot of it, whew. Question on bridging. You made a comment on a Nolva only which intrigued me Going to start a cycle now..thinking of 8 weeks Test/Deca - 2 weeks nolva 20mgs. day and then 8 weeks Test/Deca. PCT Nolva 40/20/20/20/20. HCG final 2 weeks of cycle @500iu ED. ??

You'll still need to run 250-300 mgs test or some kind of anabolic during 2 week deloads along with the nolva.