You should think of adding nolvadex to the clomid for PCT...Originally Posted by SwollSooner315
You should think of adding nolvadex to the clomid for PCT...Originally Posted by SwollSooner315
well ive been cutting for about the past 5 weeks....ive lost a good amount of fat and i decided to add in some m-1t to hopefully keep all my mass and maybe put a few pounds on....i was 245 when i started dieting...i got to 230lbs and now im back to 240! i dont know if its just water weight or what, but my strength has gone up and the pumps are crazy...i will get my bodyfat checked after i get done...and i cant believe i havent had any side effects at all...1-ad made me soooo tired and killed my sex drive...
haha my bad...im actually on week 3...one more week to go....quick question....for pct should i just stick to the pct outline on the first page? this last week i plan on going 25mg a day, from 20mg this week....thanks
PCT in the first post is pretty standard for frontloading PCT, even for most long cycles of injectables. Do that or you could do 100 mg of clomid and 20 mg of nolvadex ED for PCT, depending on how you tolerate clomid.
I'm pretty new here and have a question which I hope is not redundant, I called VPX and got an answer I wasn't happy with, I did search the threads and did see a similar question set forth by "Reelmuscle" on this thread but wanted more clarity. Do any of you know how long M1T can be tested in blood and urine and what is the 1/2 life in blood if someone is willing to spend the money for a pricey test. If anyone has an answer I would be very appreciative, the stakes are very high on my end. Peace
Certain steroids, like THG, were known as designer steroids that were 'undetectable' but this was only because the testers didn't know what metabolites to test for. Truth is you can test for any steroid you want as long as you know what your testing for. I don't exactly know what the half-life is for m1t (because its not something tested much) but its not very long as its an oral methylated hormone, it would be safe to say it would be out of your system within a few days...
Thank you sir and I welcome input from any others.
Just curious, what did VPX tell you?Originally Posted by gymnutt
Originally Posted by nsa
I have an immense respect for VPX products and the time and money put into their testing and development. However, I didn't feel the response given to me was based on 1st hand information, A gentlemen in customer support told me 8 hours for urine/blood, wasn't sure about blood 1/2 life, and could provide few details. I don't want to beat a dead horse and sure don't wan't to piss anyone off as a new member; Just curious how long it can be tested for in blood or urine, I've got a lot on the line. Thanks again.
asking for a source, eh?Originally Posted by TMac48
EDIT your post before someone has to do it for you... NO ASKING FOR SOURCES FOR BANNED SUBSTANCES...Originally Posted by TMac48
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NSA...I have 10mg capsules...Should i take them all at once ED
or spread it out throughout the day. Plannin to take 3 per day..,.
thanks
What r your stats? 30 mg of M1T is alot and most of the time not necessary...Originally Posted by C_Bino
I am 5'9" or 5'10" and 202 lbs...BF% is approx 15.Originally Posted by nsa
What do you suggest?
Thanks again...
just to verify thats a 3week pct u hav posted on page 1...this is what im doing for SD...
Yes its 3 weeks and its pretty standard for most cycles...Originally Posted by icedudez
How many cycles of M1T have you run? And what other cycles have you run if you've run any?
I have never run another cycle b4. Just purely natural as of now, the most I have done is creatine which I found didnt have much of an impact.
Then there is no way you need 30 mg of M1T for your first cycle. Stick between 10-20 mg ED...Originally Posted by C_Bino
I"m 6ft, 245lbs, body fat is low to medium.
Should I still use the same dosages that were recommended on the first page? Which were:
10mg ED of M1t
400mg ED of 4ad
1500mg of Hawthorne BE
Or because of my size should I up the dosage?
Also, I just got some Nolvadex and Milk thistle. Do I need to take Clomid? I didn't respond very well to it before. Is there anything else I can take instead of the Clomid?
Also, what would the result be if I took Clomid alone and no Nolva?
I was wondering if one can use "Off cycle" by fizogen for the PCT of M1T 20mg a day? this is my second cycle. I did the liquid Nolva and clomi, but I would prefer the pills or a substitude if ther eis one. thanks
Marc
Then get pill form clomid or nolvadex. Off cycle by Fizogen will not cut it IMO.Originally Posted by Marc Angelo
ive read so much about m1t being shit to keep gains from...what % of gains do you normally keep, about 50% with nolva/clomid/creatine/trib/milk thistle & if u increased ur cals even during pct? i have some and want to try it maybe in a few months but i really not sure about it...
I kept most of my gains, i'd say like 80-90%. Pretty much only losing water weight when i was in PCT. But you have to have d@mn good training and diet to retain most of your gains. If either is off your gonna lose more of your gains...
did u train hard? like as hard as when on cycle during ur m1t pct? what kinda gains did u make ( strength n size )?...i would look through the thread but theres so damn much to look thru i thopught id ask,lol...Originally Posted by nsa
i read thru the 1st few pages then it started on abuot 1ad n the like n my eyes started going getting tired so i stopped,lol.
sorry also can i take anything to retain less water apart from keeping sodium intake to a minimum?
bump
NSA, [U]
I"m 6ft, 245lbs, body fat is low to medium.
Should I still use the same dosages that were recommended on the first page? Which were:
10mg ED of M1t
400mg ED of 4ad
1500mg of Hawthorne BE
Or because of my size should I up the dosage?
Also, I just got some Nolvadex and Milk thistle. Do I need to take Clomid? I didn't respond very well to it before. Is there anything else I can take instead of the Clomid?
I would up the dose to 15-20 mg ED. If you can't handle clomid, i guess you could use tribulus, but clomid would be much better if you can handle it. You could always try using 100 mg of clomid for 3 weeks instead of front loading it, you might tolerate it better...
ok i feel 100% and im still getting gains....im thinking about extending my cycle to 5 weeks....im at the end of week 4 right now....do you guys think this would be benefical at all? and i was thinking of taking 6-oxo (i have 2 bottles i got for cheap)for the last week of this cycle and starting novla/clomid at the end. any thoughts?
I wouldn't extend it, but i top out around the beginning of the fourth week of m1t.
sooo do you think it would be alright if im still gaining?
It could be beneficial. I dunno if it will be for sure though.
I would think that you need to start to think about your liver when going longer with orals. Your call bro, especially if you are still growing at a good rate
What are the effects of running m1t by itself, with pct ect but just excluding the 4-derm. I am not trying to run this i am just curious to the effects of it besides being insanely lethargic.
No effects at all, I ran M1T by it self last month, got close to 10lbs gain and because this is my 3rd M1T cycle I wasnt lethargic at all, which I could've done it with 4-ad because the gains are much easier to keep that way.
you say the gains are easier to keep with the 4ad or without? So if Im understanding right the 4ad is really only for lethargy? Also if im correct the m1t doesnt aromatize so in terms of gyno its safer to do without right?
Yeah with 4ad you'll get better gains and is easier to keep.
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