Anabolic Phases Explained.

[Hard Head]

Again Hard Head show me the contradictions? Your swift to criticize but slow to point out where I have contradicted myself ? I'm asking for your help here! I did have a typo error while posting in a big rush but it's fixed. I have found no contradictions and since when did a bodybuilder/training need to be a scientist to post his and others experiences??? LMAO

Actually, I don't have the time or inclanation to reread your post or make corrections for you. If you need me to, I charge $300 per hour.

[The Iron Man]

Actually, I don't have the time or inclanation to reread your post or make corrections for you. If you need me to, I charge $300 per hour.

You couldnt find any contradictions could you??? I knew it!!!

[Hard Head]

You couldnt find any contradictions could you??? I knew it!!

Actually, I didn't bother to look. I don't have the time or inclanation.

You further discredit yourself every time you make changes to your original posting. If you were so smart and knew what the fvck you were talking about, you would have 1st spell checked your document, 2nd not needed to edit it and change the original content. You might just want to shut the fvck up, and learn some shit before spewing your crap. Damn, you even had some other asshole come over here to start a fake fight/debate with you. What kind of juvenile shit is that?

[Bob's big boy]

I see you have not met me at [edit] for a debate. Are you a pussy or what. I'll serve you a saucer of milk if needed to get this debate on the road

[The Iron Man]

I see you have not met me at [edit] for a debate. Are you a pussy or what. I'll serve you a saucer of milk if needed to get this debate on the road

I'll think about it (Bobby)-

[marcus300]

roidattack
Quote-I will read it but I do think this is a cop out. You dont wave 1/2 info. Either bring it or dont bring it.


Ive already explained further up why I think its bunk. Heavy ass doses when your not ready for them causes unwanted sides.Quote


Roidattack- I will ask you again to read my thread on the theory of short heavy cycles -
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t+heavy+cycles

I am not copping out on posting the dose of these short heavy cycles i talk about, its common sense not to, there are to many newbies reading my threads and i wouldnt want them to try something what they are not ready for,I've also been told to keep such dosages to only the advance BB's by PM.

Your knowledge of short heavy cycles is very limited otherwise you wouldnt be stating such strange comments, i will try my best to educate you but please read the above thread, it will help you alot in the understanding of the theory. The theory as been used for many years with top level BB's and shouldnt be dismissed, if you have never heard of it or even tried it that doesnt mean its not out there and working with amazing effects,you should search and learn more about it before you state your personanl comments based on nothing.

Ive stated many times that is only for the advanced BB, so it is obvious that it shouldnt be used if you are not ready.

If you want me to discuss this further so it helps you to understand please post on my thread, because there are alot of things in this thread regarding short cycles i dont agree with.

[IBdmfkr]

If I'm not mistaken "red meat" when digested also creates ATP that can be used by the muscles. Creatine is not needed if your diet is well-rounded and has the right nutrients. Really supplements can be avoided all together.

[BajanBastard]

If I'm not mistaken "red meat" when digested also creates ATP that can be used by the muscles. Creatine is not needed if your diet is well-rounded and has the right nutrients. Really supplements can be avoided all together.

LOL! Iron Man is correct on the creatine (I've been saying creatine should be used on cycle but no one listens) do you have any idea how much friggin' red meat you would have to eat just to reach CP saturation?

[IRON MAN1]

LOL! Iron Man is correct on the creatine (I've been saying creatine should be used on cycle but no one listens) do you have any idea how much friggin' red meat you would have to eat just to reach CP saturation?

big k.l.g is correct in saying no one seems to realize what they are missing by not using creatine when on a AAS cycle. We are talking upwards of a 25-50%increase in strength as opposed to what steroids along can give.

For those of you who don't seem to respond well to creatine I suggest you try using "EFFERVESCENT CREATINE" along with your steroid regimine. Effercescent is up to 75%
more effective than regular creatine monohydrate for some because it's more readibly absorbed. Absorption appears to be a big problem for many. I have also found that mixing micronized creatine with warm water followed by juice helps give better results than juice alone.

[Swifto]

hhmmm.....

[IBdmfkr]

Nope I don't, any studes BigK? Be interested in seeing them though. Guess I'll start with the creatine. Been out of the supp game so long, what's the best? Cellmass or similar?

[BajanBastard]

Nope I don't, any studes BigK? Be interested in seeing them though. Guess I'll start with the creatine. Been out of the supp game so long, what's the best? Cellmass or similar?

IMO the only supps that are worth it are some good ole' micronized creatine monohydrate, ephedrine and the Pro-steroids like oxavar. As you can see two of the three are banned.

I had a study or two but i doubt i have em now i'll do some digging.

P.S We are bodybuilder get about 3-5 grams of creatine from our diets that are already full of meats. So i can imagine getting 20g ED might be a bitch.

[IBdmfkr]

Thx, what company do you suggest/favor on the creatine. 5g's taken before or after workout? lol I'm a newb when it comes to supps, I rarely use them.
Keep in mind I'd be using GH/slin PWO as well.

[BajanBastard]

Thx, what company do you suggest/favor on the creatine. 5g's taken before or after workout? lol I'm a newb when it comes to supps, I rarely use them.
Keep in mind I'd be using GH/slin PWO as well.

I use CreaPure from ulimate nutrition, I start @ 20g ED (5g split up evenly during the day) for 5 days by then i'm about 10lbs heavier. Then 10g ED for maintaince. 10g is proballty overkill tho, 5g should do. Nark is on Avants labs esterfied creatine and he said it's great. I hurt my back doing deads so i haven't hit the gym in 4 wks but i add the 10g in my PWO shake with slin. BTW i respond very well to creatine but some people are non responders (rare).

[IBdmfkr]

Thx bro, I'll PM Nark for ordering info I read his thread as well, looks great.

[vitor]

Ime 20 days into my first short(30 day cycle). My dosages are not crazy, but defently higher than I would normally use. The priming, I yust startet 2-weeks before, so that wasnt ideal.

Still, ive seen some explovsive muscle grow. I couldnt be happier. I was sure the short-type of cycling worked before I started but now I am convinced.

Thought I would try the 2on 4 off, but decided to run it 30 days, as results really dindt startet to become obvious around 16-17 days in.

[marcus300]

Ime 20 days into my first short(30 day cycle). My dosages are not crazy, but defently higher than I would normally use. The priming, I yust startet 2-weeks before, so that wasnt ideal.

Still, ive seen some explovsive muscle grow. I couldnt be happier. I was sure the short-type of cycling worked before I started but now I am convinced.

Thought I would try the 2on 4 off, but decided to run it 30 days, as results really dindt startet to become obvious around 16-17 days in.

Excellent news vitor, You really should of primed the body for alot longer and the growth would of been even more dramtic, please pm me your cycle and results to date for my records.

[BajanBastard]

This is a waste of time in seems, why did he need to change the name to keep the thread moving? It was going just fine.

[NEW_MASS]

This is a waste of time in seems, why did he need to change the name to keep the thread moving? It was going just fine.

must have been serious bro, cant see no one going out and buying a whole new comp for nothing, hopefully Narkissos can straighten this out and everyone get back on track because this thread contains good info and more to come

[IBdmfkr]

hmm.. That depends on who you ask I guess. Debatable.

[curtdawg28]

Nice!!!!!!

[Swifto]

I can smell Ross...

[BajanBastard]

I can smell Ross...

HA!

[stupidhippo]

informative post but some questonable theories and some outright false statements. Some realtively basic errors make me wonder abit about the credibility.. But then the author is prolly not a biochemist and has more practical knowledge but still.. for example: Steroid receptors are located outside of the nucleus but not outside the cell... steroid hormones travel into the cell cause their steroid structure make them able to pass the cell membrane.. Then Slin IGF-1 etc are not anabolic steroids..

[Iceman69]

After reading this entire thread.

I'll stick with my 1st cycle staying at 500mg of Test E per week for the full 12weeks. If for some reason my gains stop at week 10 I'll come off and hit PCT.

Changing and stacking compounds for a 1st cycle seems to be against what all the mods recommend on these forums.

I'm keeping it stupid simple.