Lance Armstrong vs Micheal Jordan

[J-Dogg]

there is a ton of skill involved. pro road racers ride on the road every day for 5 hours minimum to start, and the best climbers can ride up the alps at almost 20 mph, and pace you couldn't do on flat ground. the best sprinters can hit over 45 mph at the end of a race, so that's the physical aspect. like we can all ride a bike, we've all been able to play b-ball since we were in about 1st grade as well, it's all a matter f how good you are.

then there is the strategy. everyone's got their own strengths and weaknesses, so to give a simple example, say 2 riders are approaching the finish line and A has a higher top speed, but B can hit his top speed for a little while longer. B is going to take off earlier and keep A out of his slipstream, while A is going to try to follow B and pass him in the last 50 yards or so.

Hey, now I’m not that much of a pussy! I can almost run 20 MPH on my feet, I know I can keep a pace of 20 MPH on a bike!

I’m still not convinced with your example, it is known that Lances endurance is what makes him so great, not his judgment upon when he starts his sprints. That is just something you know what your body is capable of.

I still will stand behind my argument that give me Lances endurance and bike and I’ll tear up the tour!

Give me MJ’s physical ability and I’m still just another cracker on the bench

[1819]

bike strategy...go fast. when you come to something, turn. go fast again. repeat as needed. call time out. "yes coach?" coach: "see the guy in front of you?" "yea." coach: "pass him."

[J.S.N.]

Hey, now I’m not that much of a pussy! I can almost run 20 MPH on my feet, I know I can keep a pace of 20 MPH on a bike!

I’m still not convinced with your example, it is known that Lances endurance is what makes him so great, not his judgment upon when he starts his sprints. That is just something you know what your body is capable of.

I still will stand behind my argument that give me Lances endurance and bike and I’ll tear up the tour!

Give me MJ’s physical ability and I’m still just another cracker on the bench

you might be able to run almost 20mph for like 50 yards, but anyways it's besides the point. your body behaves stangely when it is pushed to the limits for 4-6 hours during a day, much less for basically 3 weeks strait. are your going to go all out on this mountain, or will that destroy all your enegry and cause you to bonk? you are down 3 minutes- how are you going to get them back, "justride faster?" what if your rival just sits in your slipstream while you "just go faster?" (and he will). i'm not going to go into all the details as to why bike racign is so interesting, but suffice to say it's alot more strategic than basketball and alot less than chess.

[Carlos_E]

I mean, sure their is probably some skill involved with passing people, but I've been able to keep a bike on 2 wheels since I was 6. I'm assuming I could pass a slower kid on one by the time I was 7.

[J-Dogg]

Okay okay I just sprouted some nut hair so I'll come out and say it.

If Lance never had cancer, the whole world woud not know who he was. Cycling would still only be known in europe. Lance would not have gotten to bang Sheryl Crow. He would not be in the spot light for winning a race 7 times.

Hats off to him, I don't know if I could beat cancer, I don't know if MJ could either.

Ask 10 people on the street to name 5 cyclist. 1 MIGHT be able to tell you 5. I can tell you:

Lance Armstrong
Dave Mira
TJ Lavin

[Carlos_E]

Ask 10 people on the street to name 5 cyclist.

I could name zero before reading this thread.

[J.S.N.]

here's 5 for ya:

jan ullrich
tom boonen
eddie merckx (the GOAT of cycling)
mario cippolini (google him carlos you might heart him)
johan museeuw

[gritt]

Jordan all the way......Lance can only play one sport

jordan can shoot hoops, golf, baseball.....maye not that one.....kick Kevin Bacon's ass in Hanes commercials, gamble, buy pro teams, chew gum.

Lance couldnt even keep sheryl happy...what's up with that?

[J.S.N.]

only one nut = unsatisfying facials

[chest6]

only one nut = unsatisfying facials

[MrMent1on]

LANCE only doesnt get caught with the use of EPO because they dont want to catch him it. would be too big of a blow. Just like the olympics. if they were to test everyone (randomly) they wouldnt have an Olympic. But dont tell m ethat everyone else is using it and your beating them but your not using it come on. use your heads here.

[MrMent1on]

I thing the different opinions here are mostly base on a black and white thing here.. I didnt say all, I said mostly.
To find outr who is the better athlete you would have to take them out of their own sport and have them to other sports, which M.J. would dominate. JMO

[Carlos_E]

I thing the different opinions here are mostly base on a black and white thing here.. I didnt say all, I said mostly.

That thought also crossed my mind.

[THE_DOME]

still after reading these post i have to re enter my vote for none other that MJ

when is comes down to it i respect lance and how good he is but he is just riding a bike, any form of transportation is not a sport.

[J.S.N.]

still after reading these post i have to re enter my vote for none other that MJ

when is comes down to it i respect lance and how good he is but he is just riding a bike, any form of transportation is not a sport.

that's pretty retarded logic and reductionism as well. lance just rode a bike, mj just put a ball into a hoop, carl lewis just ran really fast, einstein just created relativity, alexander just conquered the whole meditarranean, no big whup that's all they did.

[TestTubeBaby]

ummm is this really discussion? put lance in any other sport, how does he do? probably not too well! i dont even really consider them athletes, they ride bikes for christ sake!