OFFICAL- 2006 Olympia Thread

[SVTMuscle*]

The competitor's

• Ronnie Coleman USA 2005 Mr. Olympia 1st place
• Jay Cutler USA 2005 Mr. Olympia 2nd place
• Gustavo Badell Puerto Rico 2005 Mr. Olympia 3rd place
• Gunter Schlierkamp Germany 2005 Mr. Olympia 4th place
• Victor Martinez USA 2005 Mr. Olympia 5th place
• Dennis James Germany 2005 Mr. Olympia 6th place
• Lee Priest Australia 2006 Ironman Pro 1st place
• David Henry Jr. USA 2006 Ironman Pro 2nd place
• Troy Alves USA 2006 Ironman Pro 3rd place
• Dexter Jackson USA 2006 Arnold Classic 1st place
• Branch Warren USA 2006 Arnold Classic 2nd place
• Melvin Anthony USA 2006 Arnold Classic 5th place
• Mustafa Mohammad Jordan 2006 San Francisco 4th place
• Ronnie Rockel Germany 2006 Australia Pro 1st
• Vince Taylor USA 2006 Australia Pro 3rd
• Darrem Charles Trinidad 2006 Colorado Pro 2nd
• Bill Willmore USA 2006 New York Pro 5th
• Toney Freeman USA 2006 Europa Super Show 1st
• Quincy Taylor USA 2006 Europa Super Show 2nd
• Johnnie Jackson USA 2006 Europa Super Show 3rd
• King Kamali USA 2006 Montreal Pro 4th

Predictions???

1. Ronnie
2. Jay
3. Dexter
4. Gustavo
5. Branch

[hardgainer12]

i hope someone random wins. maybe it will spice things up. im getting bored of the ronnie winning and jay complaining thing. maybe branch

[SVTMuscle*]

That would be awesome, but it wont happen.

Ronne is gonna come in at over 300 pounds this year sources are saying, so maybe he'll come in off with a big gut, but..... as long as he comes in 90% or better, no one will touch him

[FullMoonHowlingWolf]

The only way that Ronnie loses is if he doesn't show up!

[SVTMuscle*]

^ ^ Thats 100% true

[Ih8urdsm]

The competitor's

• Ronnie Coleman USA 2005 Mr. Olympia 1st place
• Jay Cutler USA 2005 Mr. Olympia 2nd place
• Gustavo Badell Puerto Rico 2005 Mr. Olympia 3rd place
• Gunter Schlierkamp Germany 2005 Mr. Olympia 4th place
• Victor Martinez USA 2005 Mr. Olympia 5th place
• Dennis James Germany 2005 Mr. Olympia 6th place
• Lee Priest Australia 2006 Ironman Pro 1st place
• David Henry Jr. USA 2006 Ironman Pro 2nd place
• Troy Alves USA 2006 Ironman Pro 3rd place
• Dexter Jackson USA 2006 Arnold Classic 1st place
• Branch Warren USA 2006 Arnold Classic 2nd place
• Melvin Anthony USA 2006 Arnold Classic 5th place
• Mustafa Mohammad Jordan 2006 San Francisco 4th place
• Ronnie Rockel Germany 2006 Australia Pro 1st
• Vince Taylor USA 2006 Australia Pro 3rd
• Darrem Charles Trinidad 2006 Colorado Pro 2nd
• Bill Willmore USA 2006 New York Pro 5th
• Toney Freeman USA 2006 Europa Super Show 1st
• Quincy Taylor USA 2006 Europa Super Show 2nd
• Johnnie Jackson USA 2006 Europa Super Show 3rd
• King Kamali USA 2006 Montreal Pro 4th

Predictions???

1. Ronnie
2. Jay
3. Dexter
4. Gustavo
5. Branch

1. Ronnie
2. Jay
3. Victor Martinex
4. Dexter
5. Dennis James

[RuhlFreak55]

i think you're forgetting someone........Markus!!!!!!!....he'll be qualified by the end of the month

[SVTMuscle*]

i think you're forgetting someone........Markus!!!!!!!....he'll be qualified by the end of the month

o yeah, maybe he can squeeze in there in between Tai boxer and GSXXR

[RuhlFreak55]

psh....he's gonna place good this year......top 5 i'm predicting

[Superhuman]

My Prediction...

1. Jay Cutler
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Gustavo Badel
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Branch Warren

[SVTMuscle*]

My Prediction...

1. Jay Cutler
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Gustavo Badel
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Branch Warren

wanna do a wager that wont happen

[MrMent1on]

My Prediction...

1. Jay Cutler
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Gustavo Badel
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Branch Warren

Poor guy, be realistic, I bet you your one of those guys every year you've been in denial. as long as Ronnie competes Jay will never win. NEVER. its not even close, but your denial will tell you it is. even Dorian Yates said it. Jay Doesnt even come close to beating Ronnie, even Jay knows that so how come you dont know that?

[SVTMuscle*]

Poor guy, be realistic, I bet you your one of those guys every year you've been in denial. as long as Ronnie competes Jay will never win. NEVER. its not even close, but your denial will tell you it is. even Dorian Yates said it. Jay Doesnt even come close to beating Ronnie, even Jay knows that so how come you dont know that?

haha true that. even if we cancel out the fact Ronnie is going to win because he's ronnie..
Jay's back cant touch Ronnies, or his quads.

[pepperoni]

haha true that. even if we cancel out the fact Ronnie is going to win because he's ronnie..
Jay's back cant touch Ronnies, or his quads.

I have to disagree, I think Jay has the superior Quads for sure. Also better abs and tri's.

[Superhuman]

My Prediction...

1. Jay Cutler
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Gustavo Badel
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Branch Warren

YO!!! look @ what my predictions were ^

these are the official results:
1. Jay Cutler!
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Victor Martinez
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Melvin Anthony

[CSAR]

YO!!! look @ what my predictions were ^

these are the official results:
1. Jay Cutler!
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Victor Martinez
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Melvin Anthony

Dude, you were 3 for 5!! Pretty damn good!!

[Superhuman]

Dude, you were 3 for 5!! Pretty damn good!!

hell yeah i'm gonna bet on it next year and make some money

[CSAR]

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also...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006olympia.htm

Check them out!!!!

[Undecided09]

isn't it really disheartening to these guys to know that at this stage of BBing theres nothing more they can do, their genetics just simply aren't as good?? How can you prepare for the O knowing that?? Just Curious...I mean obviously its just an honor to be in it, but for the guys that are really going out to win it, thats gotta hurt u know??

~M.A.D.

[Superhuman]

well in my opinion Ronnie just does not have a good midsection at all.

Bodybuilding is not a competition to see how big you can get either, it's about the entire package AND how you present it on stage. I also think Ronnie's posing routines have been absolutely terrible - especially when he came out with a robe and hat and tried to move to "I'm a King"

Jay looks so much better, and he has grown a lot over the last year. Jay has better striations and shape to his muscles - All ronnie has on jay is size, and like I said it's not all about how big you are.

[SVTMuscle*]

well in my opinion Ronnie just does not have a good midsection at all.

Bodybuilding is not a competition to see how big you can get either, it's about the entire package AND how you present it on stage. I also think Ronnie's posing routines have been absolutely terrible - especially when he came out with a robe and hat and tried to move to "I'm a King"

Jay looks so much better, and he has grown a lot over the last year. Jay has better striations and shape to his muscles - All ronnie has on jay is size, and like I said it's not all about how big you are.

That is true, he has a horrible midsection, his waist is probaly bigger than mine at competition, but with a 65 inch chest and 23 inch arms.... thats kinda expected unfortunately.
I personally think Jay looks better also, I'd love to see him win, but its just not in the cards for him.
And thats why Arnold will always better than Coleman, because Arnold didnt contain the post pregnancy distorted looking gut and big waist.

[MrMent1on]

That is true, he has a horrible midsection, his waist is probaly bigger than mine at competition, but with a 65 inch chest and 23 inch arms.... thats kinda expected unfortunately.
I personally think Jay looks better also, I'd love to see him win, but its just not in the cards for him.
And thats why Arnold will always better than Coleman, because Arnold didnt contain the post pregnancy distorted looking gut and big waist.

Denial got you blind bro. Jay's waist is WIDER than Ronnie's, Jays waist is around 34 to 35 inches, damn thats wide, side by side comparison Ronnie has a better symmetry than Jay but like I said denial got you blind.

[CSAR]

Fact: the majority of Mr. Olympia contests have been won by 4 men (Arnold, Haney, Yates, and Ronnie). It's near impossible to unseat a reigning champion.

IMO, there have been a couple times I thought these guys shouldn't have won, especially Yates after he tore a couple different muscles and Ronnie when he shows up with gyno and a gut.

I fully agree with Superhuman and pepperoni. I think Jay's a better overall bodybuilder. While Jay might not be as massive as Ronnie, he has a much better combination of size, shape, condition, and symmetry. Ronnie's a mass monster to be sure, but shouldn't the ultimate bodybuilding contest be about more than just showing up weighing 300 lbs.? Unfortunately, until the Mr. O judges rotate, Ronnie will most likely win again. But I'm still rootin' for Jay!!

[*Narkissos*]

I may be mistaken.. but saying Ronnie is a Mass Monster when Jay is inches shorter and about the same weight is like calling the Sun the Moon.

Jay is a mass Monster weight wise.. but Ronnie just looks denser.. His musculature is more mature and 'pops'.. while some of Jay's muscles seem to flatten out accross the torso. My biggest prob with Ronnie is his piss-poor posing.

His ab-structure i have no prob with. I mean c'mon.. He's got every other bodypart.. How can you fault him for one?

name a bodybuilder with zero flaws.

[Ejuicer]

I may be mistaken.. but saying Ronnie is a Mass Monster when Jay is inches shorter and about the same weight is like calling the Sun the Moon.

Jay is a mass Monster weight wise.. but Ronnie just looks denser.. His musculature is more mature and 'pops'.. while some of Jay's muscles seem to flatten out accross the torso. My biggest prob with Ronnie is his piss-poor posing.

His ab-structure i have no prob with. I mean c'mon.. He's got every other bodypart.. How can you fault him for one?

name a bodybuilder with zero flaws.

His a**ominal structure isn't the greatest, but what makes the problem worse is his protruding a**omen. Plus as far as structure goes, over the years you can watch his a**ominals separate more and more as his gut increased in size.
As for flawless, the closest I would say would be flex wheeler. I can't think of any major flaws off the top of my head.

[CSAR]

According to the October 2006 issue of M&F (Japan), Ronnie is listed at 180cm/133.8kg (5'11"/295lbs.) while Jay is listed at 175cm/270kg (5'9"/270lbs.).

Nark...A 25 pound difference is NOT "about the same weight," regardless of a 2 inch height difference (which IMO makes Ronnie look more massive than Jay).

No doubt that Ronnie looks denser...he's got 9 years of age/experience/muscle maturity over Jay. I agree that Jay's torso muscles tend to flatten out too.

Ronnie's got a big muscle separation in his linea alba, which makes it look like the "Alien" embryo is about to explode out of his gut. Plus he's been known to show up with gyno.

Is Ronnie more massive than Jay? YES! Does he look denser? YES! Is he favored to win? YES!

HOWEVER...IMO...Ronnie's just not aesthetically pleasing to look at. Ronnie is built like a Humvee. Jay is much more aesthetic, along with having excellent size and condition. Jay's built like a Ferrari.

Like I said before, it's near impossible to unseat a reigning Mr. O. Although Ronnie "just has to show up" to collect his Sandow, I'm hoping Jay wins.

Very good thread with nice arguments made on both sides, BTW.

[Ejuicer]

According to the October 2006 issue of M&F (Japan), Ronnie is listed at 180cm/133.8kg (5'9"/295lbs.) while Jay is listed at 175cm/270kg (5'7"/270lbs.).

Nark...A 25 pound difference is NOT "about the same weight," regardless of a 2 inch height difference (which IMO makes Ronnie look more massive than Jay).

No doubt that Ronnie looks denser...he's got 9 years of age/experience/muscle maturity over Jay. I agree that Jay's torso muscles tend to flatten out too.

Ronnie's got a big muscle separation in his linea alba, which makes it look like the "Alien" embryo is about to explode out of his gut. Plus he's been known to show up with gyno.

Is Ronnie more massive than Jay? YES! Does he look denser? YES! Is he favored to win? YES!

HOWEVER...IMO...Ronnie's just not aesthetically pleasing to look at. Ronnie is built like a Humvee. Jay is much more aesthetic, along with having excellent size and condition. Jay's built like a Ferrari.

Like I said before, it's near impossible to unseat a reigning Mr. O. Although Ronnie "just has to show up" to collect his Sandow, I hoping Jay wins.

Very good thread with nice arguments made on both sides, BTW.

You're off on that. Jay is 5'9" and coleman is 5'11".
As far as being the same size, there should be about a 10lb difference for every inch on height, so as far as their weight, it does equal out pretty closely.

[CSAR]

You're off on that. Jay is 5'9" and coleman is 5'11".
As far as being the same size, there should be about a 10lb difference for every inch on height, so as far as their weight, it does equal out pretty closely.

I'm off on the inches...but I originally reported in centimeters, which are correct. I just flubbed the conversion...that's what I get for living in Japan for too long.

Are you talking about a height to weight ratio? Aren't those calculated for the average human and not professional bodybuilders whose muscles are huge with bodyfat %'s that are extremely low? In previous Olympias, Ronnie and Jay's bodyweights were closer. However, a projected 25 pound difference between Ronnie and Jay in bodyweight for the 2006 O is in effect. Ever seen a Nationals where they compare the light-heavy and heavyweights? A 2 inch height/25 lb weight differential is gonna be noticeable.

[heavyhitter08]

1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Jay Cutler
3.Gunter Schlierkamp
4.Gustavo Badell
5. Victor Martinez....

light weight baby!!!

i've never seen it live, but i'm ordering it this yr....

[MrMent1on]

HOWEVER...IMO...Ronnie's just not aesthetically pleasing to look at. Ronnie is built like a Humvee. Jay is much more aesthetic, along with having excellent size and condition. Jay's built like a Ferrari.

.

Your out of your FCUKIN mind. like I said denial is blinding.

[heavyhitter08]

where do you think Phil Heath will place?

He beat out a proven top 10 Darrem Charles and a mass monster Dennis James????

[SVTMuscle*]

where do you think Phil Heath will place?

He beat out a proven top 10 Darrem Charles and a mass monster Dennis James????

Phil is not competing in the Olympia

[CSAR]

Your out of your FCUKIN mind. like I said denial is blinding.

Hey, hey, hey... we're all entitled to our opinions. Ronnie is awesome for sure, but IMO he isn't as aesthetic as Jay (or you for that matter - great avatar pic). I merely used an analogy that I felt was representative of my opinion, that of a Humvee vs. a Ferrari. I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee. Again, this is just my opinion.

BTW...I have a Ph.D. in linguistics - you used the 2nd person possessive pronoun "your" incorrectly. You should have began your opening sentence with "You're." I might be anal and slightly obsessive/compulsive, but I'm not crazy.

PEACE!!!

Oh snap! I'm no longer listed as a newbie... I'm a Jr. Member! Hoo-yah!!!

[Undecided09]

I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee.

My sentiments exactly, this explanation is prolly your/the best overall desrciptor of the aesthetic argument, IMO...

~M.A.D.

[JohnboyF]

Hey, hey, hey... we're all entitled to our opinions. Ronnie is awesome for sure, but IMO he isn't as aesthetic as Jay (or you for that matter - great avatar pic). I merely used an analogy that I felt was representative of my opinion, that of a Humvee vs. a Ferrari. I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee. Again, this is just my opinion.

BTW...I have a Ph.D. in linguistics - you used the 2nd person possessive pronoun "your" incorrectly. You should have began your opening sentence with "You're." I might be anal and slightly obsessive/compulsive, but I'm not crazy.

PEACE!!!

Oh snap! I'm no longer listed as a newbie... I'm a Jr. Member! Hoo-yah!!!

Just curious what do u mean by that? were judging muscle size, shape (symetry) etc.

[RuhlFreak55]

Hey, hey, hey... we're all entitled to our opinions. Ronnie is awesome for sure, but IMO he isn't as aesthetic as Jay (or you for that matter - great avatar pic). I merely used an analogy that I felt was representative of my opinion, that of a Humvee vs. a Ferrari. I wouldn't mind owning either, but a Ferrari is more aesthetic than a Humvee. Again, this is just my opinion.

BTW...I have a Ph.D. in linguistics - you used the 2nd person possessive pronoun "your" incorrectly. You should have began your opening sentence with "You're." I might be anal and slightly obsessive/compulsive, but I'm not crazy.

PEACE!!!

Oh snap! I'm no longer listed as a newbie... I'm a Jr. Member! Hoo-yah!!!

i would take a hummvee over a ferrari any day of the week

[MrMent1on]

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