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WOW. For some reason i expected a lot of people to argue and disagree with me. But for anyone who got ANYTHING from what i wrote i really hope it can help you improve your life and change the way you interact with people in general. (whether or not you need it)
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A lot of what you wrote is what I need to work on. I am becoming a lot better at it. I find myself talking a lot easier to the girls I am uninterested in (not attractive..or otherwise) and closing up to the girls that are more attractive and being more shy. Im becoming better and like the others have said..you just gotta keep at it. I used to be overly nice to girls and I used to get shot down with that approach so its done with that...which is hard b/c im naturally like that.Originally Posted by Bojangles69
GOOoooo ruhhlll
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Thats perfect bro. Just start with baby steps and work your way up. One thing that blew my mind is i use to not talk to woman AT ALL. And i met this guy who is probaly 100x's better with women than i am. (at the time lol)
He said I WAS the male equivalent to a **stuck up bitch**.
And i was like there is NO F**KING way im like that.
But than i started to really think about it.
I ALWAYS ejected from conversations first, I ALWAYS got nervous and would try to act like i was better than the other person, or try to compensate somehow with my body language because my social skills were lacking. (like leaning back, or keeping my head turned away etc.)
And whether or not it was true, i came to see woman really thought i was a f**cking asshole, just because i DIDNT talk to them, or because i was just all aloof and nonchalant (because i thought that was "cool")
It was so easy.
He told me just to act like i would around my niece. Just to learn how to be open around women. And that meant SO MUCH. People really dont understand what it feels like to break out of thier shells. You WILL feel that shit if you do it one day. Its not something you'll have to figure out.
It seriously took me about a year to break out of my shell. And i was so IMPATIENT. Everyday questioning whether or not things were working for me.
Now im not trying to slip into a bio about myself. You said its easy to talk to unattractive women but you still really cant be comfortable around the hotties.
I need to explain one thing to you. Attractive women are a COMPLETELY different breed than "average" women.
And a good friend told me to stop talking to the average ones and to just focus on the really goodlooking ones. The dynamics were TOTALLY different.
I noticed patterns immediately with the real pretty ones. Like there was always this emotional disconnection with them. They rarely laughed at my jokes. And we developed a name for them. the "shine catchers".
Because youll notice these women are ALWAYS chasing the next shiniest thing. At the bars, school, anywhere. If its shiny and bright they will leave what ever they're doing to chase it. (by shiny and bright i dont mean visually, i mean stimulation wise) These women chase stimulation.
The average chicks do it much less.
That why youll be talking to a hotty and she has no problem with turning her head and talking to some random person mid convo. Its rude but it what they do. But one thing i noticed is the good looking women believe it or not are EASIER. Once you get a feel for them.
The average women are just more centered. Less impressionable. Ill admit with the hotties i have a few basic rules in the beginging that work wonders for some reason.
One i never laugh if they try to be funny. Two i never jump through thier hoops without them jumping through mine first. (like asking for a favor etc) Three NEVER make them center of attention. If you want these girls befriend thier friends and ignore them. They are innately spoiled, they are programmed to compete and become center of attention, you NEVER let them win but ALWAYS let them believe theres a chance they can.
Just more than anything with the really goodlooking girls ive noticed they are a lot more gamey at first but once you break through that shield you learn they arent even close to what you built them up in your mind to be. and often times worth absolute shit ime.
ok im tired, gtg to sleep now
~Bo
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this thread is going to be a winner. for real.
Bo, great literature man. some guys should seriously print that shit out.
confidence, wins it all.
also if anyone is interested you should.
A. read absolutely everything written by David D'Angelo
B. buy these books...
1. "How to Make Love to a Woman" by Morganstern
2."How To
Drive Your Woman Wild In Bed" by Masterson
3."The Alchemy of Love and Lust" by
Crenshaw
i'm going to type up personality traits that i think are important in regards to advancing with women.
Have You Picked a Fight Lately?
before i go workout i just want to say this. i have done this and i tell you what. astonishment is teh only response i get. both verbally and nonverbally. and this goes back to what Bo was saying about beautiful women. when they are acting like they are arrogant or "using the shiny concept Bo pointed out" try this, if you have the courage...
look at her and without smiling and keeping a straight face say,
"You don't have me fooled for a minute, dear."
undoubtedly she will ask, "what are you talking about?"
you respond with (again seriously but not scary),
""Well, I know that most men fall for this 'I'm beautiful and aloof and I get my
way' part of your personality... but I know something that none of
them know... that there's really another side of you. A side that none
of THEM get to see. I'll bet you a dollar right now that I know
something about you that no one who's only known you for 5 minutes
has EVER known... pause...(here's where you blow her mind)
You may act tough, but you're actually EXTREMELY sensitive on the inside. If someone makes a negative comment to you, you might act like it doesn't bother you...but you'll think about it all the way home... I know that secretly you're as sensitive as a little girl... it's just that most people never get to
meet that part of you"
hold that look for a few seconds and take in how much her facial expressions have changed while you were speaking until now when youre finished. you hit her good and hard right where the "girliness" exists.
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hmmmm....interesting idea......would be cool to try
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bumpage......threads about me don't die
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alot of what bo said is correct.
I have similar theories..
Actually even regarding other women for me, when i think of it in terms of jelousy. I always tell my boyfriend i dont really care about the pretty girls, but its the average or the below avg ones that mite bother me.
Reason being is pretty girls get attention all the time and it doesn't matter too much if one more guys gives them a glance.. BUT avg or below avg lookin women - they do not get the attention they seek, so jump at any bit of attention they may get. - THIS IS A FACT!!
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after some extensive and ongoing reasearch i have come to the following conclusions and solutions at approaching the fairer sex
1) if girls is ultra attractive do not even speak of her being hot... in fact dont even actl ike shes hot shizzle. completely ignore that fact
2) when conversing with girl, try to relate similar experiences. prolongs conversation and she thinks she can really 'talk to you' or some BS like that
3) fear is the enemy. never give up and never stop trying.
4) strippers will give the occasional boost of confidence - omg you're so hard... you're so huge... looks like someone over here works out, bounce your pecs for me!
research is ongoing
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thread no longer needed................
Educate B4 U Medicate
Guess that means you got laid !! CONGRATULATIONS !!
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seeing as u were successful.. maybe u should share pearls of wisdom for all those who r unlaid
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whats that supposed to meanseeing as u were successful.. maybe u should share pearls of wisdom for all those who r unlaid
ahh good job Ruhlfreak
if i were you i'd befor most of the day
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i meant nuthing i haven't ever had any issueswhats that supposed to mean
ahh good job Ruhlfreak
if i were you i'd be
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i meant nuthing i haven't ever had any issues
Eat, Sleep, Lift...Repeat!
....just don't give us a pearl necklaceseeing as u were successful.. maybe u should share pearls of wisdom for all those who r unlaid
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yes yes....no longer virgin......
King Without a Crown ~
Drove all the way to Canada eh??
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i plead the fifthDrove all the way to Canada eh??
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Drove all the way to Canada eh??
Got Style?
Drove all the way to Canada eh??
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BUSTED!!! Who did yah go to see in canada?
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Damn, it wasn't you?
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nope i got a man and if i didnt i wouldnt have to ship em in to see me.Damn, it wasn't you?
King Without a Crown ~
Sorry, bad joke..nope i got a man and if i didnt i wouldnt have to ship em in to see me.
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ok so it's been a while......and i need to get laid again........now the last time kinda just well.......fell into my lap?......i really don't know what to do....i need to pick up one of the plethora of beautiful chicks at the gym but don't know how......cause i figure that they're there to workout just like me and wouldn't like to be interupted........saw a girl today that was like a dream.......really dark black hair, dark eyes......very tan.....and then she had this AWESOME scar running the length of her left quad....never seen a sexy scar before but she had one
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tell her you like the getup on her leg
i saw this in the postwhore thread. dude getting laid is easy. go to the bar have a few and get some confident and approach every girl u see, and do it with in 3 seconds. if u sart walking towrds them in less then 3 seconds then u dont hyave time to think if u should or not.
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meh....but i don't drink.....and i'm not attracted to girls that drinktell her you like the getup on her leg
i saw this in the postwhore thread. dude getting laid is easy. go to the bar have a few and get some confident and approach every girl u see, and do it with in 3 seconds. if u sart walking towrds them in less then 3 seconds then u dont hyave time to think if u should or not.
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Ugh well im sorry ur shit out of luck
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what?.....that can't be.......grr damn
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First I wanna say that this is EXCELLENT.
You have something called a *standard AND you have a problem getting laid. That is a very rare mix with men.
Shows you have self respect and a certain attitude towards you.
But seriously dude.
Post your sticking point/s and I'll see if I throw out some gems.
Be REAL specific.
Whats YOUR problem?
What do YOU want?
What cant YOU do right now that YOU want to do?
Dont mention anything about the women. They're not the problem. Its ALWAYS YOUR fault. Trust me on this.
Some guys have the skills to avoid ANY situation with women because they've ****ed up in the past and now no how to deal with it or prevent it from happening in the future. Its that simple.
Men hold frame and run court, women succumb or comply to the mans frame.
Last edited by Bojangles69; 03-15-2007 at 06:17 PM.
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Ok Mr. Hitch....j/k
I've read some of your posts and you actually know what your talking about.
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ok so
1. I guess my problem has something to do with initiating romantic contact or ever starting relationships for that purpose. Like i said i'm friends...well maybe i should say "friends" with lots of girls but i don't know with the ones i've grown to like what to do and i really have no idea what to do with girls that i want to meet and get to know solely for that purpose....not to sound like an ass.....i'm the good guy......sex is not the only thing i want out of any relationship.
2.....I want to find my girl, just like anyone else. But to do that i assume i must meet some that i'm attracted to and i have issues with this. I want to be able to talk to these girls that in my eyes are worthy of worship.
3.....part of the above two pretty much.....be able to talk to these beautiful girls i see everyday and get to know them and find the one that's right for me.
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Test Is Best!
So Ruhl fraek how long has it been?
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i dunno since the last time i posted in this thread.......
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ruhl you just need to talk to her, thats all, and oh yeah tell her that there is no way she can do the VOLUME of exercises you do and she will melt in your lap............. lol j/k
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i guess it would have to be 2 days before thanksgiving........damn....long time ago
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but see i feel that i'll be annoying her and disrupting her workout if i try to talk to her.....those things invariably take at least 5 minutes
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so tell her you dont want to ruin her workout so, might you take her for a cup of coffee or some shit like that.
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