For all those taking Superdrol.....

[rubix6]

man...what some people go through for beauty

[CoreyTampa09]

who here has gotten gyno from superdrol? I think I might be getting it, or it could be in my head =/

[macrophage69alpha]

who here has gotten gyno from superdrol? I think I might be getting it, or it could be in my head =/

there are a number of people that have reported gyno from superdrol. Likely because of progestenic activity. Though there are those that dispute that it has any because its a DHT derivative (though winstrol another methylated DHT derivative has well established PgR binding)

[notorious_mem]

who here has gotten gyno from superdrol? I think I might be getting it, or it could be in my head =/

reading this stuff started making me have alot of the syptoms.The brain is a crazy machine.Ive been touching my tit so much it has gotten sore(checking for lumps)ive got one more week of phera plex and i start my pct my cycle has been great so far with just a few sides. none too serious though.

[wildman536]

well looks likr theres going to be some SD in the trash!!

[CoreyTampa09]

Im stopping my superrol tommrow after only 2 weeks of use. **** it I made a mistake - natty for life from here on in.

[D-Bo Dre]

I cant believe how this one article has ppl flipping!! Do you know how many negative articles have been written on every type of anabolics that have come out?!? It's part of the game,, a supplement that actually works comes out and the media will do everything in their power to destroy it's reputation.. what's next protein shakes cause breast cancer??!

I dont know,, but Im still taking mine in Jan 07'. I'm going to take it with as much precaution as I took my first cycle.. and hopefully gain similar if not better results...Sh*t, in my opinion its safer than what many other A-holes are taking out there.. Look at Greg Valentino for example.. injecting sythol in his body!!

[hawktribal]

I cant believe how this one article has ppl flipping!! Do you know how many negative articles have been written on every type of anabolics that have come out?!? It's part of the game,, a supplement that actually works comes out and the media will do everything in their power to destroy it's reputation.. what's next protein shakes cause breast cancer??!

I dont know,, but Im still taking mine in Jan 07'. I'm going to take it with as much precaution as I took my first cycle.. and hopefully gain similar if not better results...Sh*t, in my opinion its safer than what many other A-holes are taking out there.. Look at Greg Valentino for example.. injecting sythol in his body!!

it's not just one article bro. there are quite a few people on the board who have gotten some pretty nasty after effects from superdrol-myself included. if it does harm there's no reason not to inform people.

[Giants11]

I cant believe how this one article has ppl flipping!! Do you know how many negative articles have been written on every type of anabolics that have come out?!? It's part of the game,, a supplement that actually works comes out and the media will do everything in their power to destroy it's reputation.. what's next protein shakes cause breast cancer??!

I dont know,, but Im still taking mine in Jan 07'. I'm going to take it with as much precaution as I took my first cycle.. and hopefully gain similar if not better results...Sh*t, in my opinion its safer than what many other A-holes are taking out there.. Look at Greg Valentino for example.. injecting sythol in his body!!

This ain't the media dude. Did you see the text. It was not an article rather a published study. Yes the Media does blow up all things related to AAS.

However the one clear difference is my mind, is the established AAS that we do have published studies on, from years back (Test, Deca, Drol, Dbol, Winny etc....) can easily refute any misguided statements the media makes. The history of AAS used for medicial purposes has a ton of data as well as years upon years of anecdotal feedback.

[Shane35aa]

Is this the same compund as S-DROL which is marketed now?

[RANA]

Does anyone know if PP falls in this category with SD with this problem?

[macrophage69alpha]

Is this the same compund as S-DROL which is marketed now?

yes. though in truth you can cant be sure. None of these guys test the material and since its a fairly new synthesis its likely to be impure even if the chinese get it right. (thats one of the other reasons for avoiding these designer steroids)

[macrophage69alpha]

Does anyone know if PP falls in this category with SD with this problem?

UNKNOWN. But it is a progestin (thats really all thats known about it)

[Chad B]

A lot of people don't want the risk of getting busted by the cops. This is a major side effect of "real roids"

[AnabolicBoy1981]

I cant believe how this one article has ppl flipping!! Do you know how many negative articles have been written on every type of anabolics that have come out?!? It's part of the game,, a supplement that actually works comes out and the media will do everything in their power to destroy it's reputation.. what's next protein shakes cause breast cancer??!

I dont know,, but Im still taking mine in Jan 07'. I'm going to take it with as much precaution as I took my first cycle.. and hopefully gain similar if not better results...Sh*t, in my opinion its safer than what many other A-holes are taking out there.. Look at Greg Valentino for example.. injecting sythol in his body!!

media? reread pal. that was a medical case report. bottom line is it clogged the guys kidney filters completely and hes probly fvcked for life. He used the recomended dose too.
hey, i know your bummed and in denial of the facts, but face the facts. if it completly clogged this guys filters, then it might clog someone elses 5%....and such a degree of kidney damage might have NO SYMPTOMS....till your like 50.
Yeah, so ya wasted some money on a bottle of SD. JOIN THE CLUB. i bought FIVE bottles of the stuff months ago, and now icant use'em. Bummed, yeah, i am. but ill take bummed over a dialysis machine the last 3 decades of my life.
i know it feels like your chucking a bottle of "gold", but its not gold...its poop. just imagine it has poop in the bottle. itl help you make the right decision.

id rather take a roid thats hella liver toxic, than a roid thats just a little kidney toxic.

SD though, seems to be both.

[Giants11]

media? reread pal. that was a medical case report. bottom line is it clogged the guys kidney filters completely and hes probly fvcked for life. He used the recomended dose too.
hey, i know your bummed and in denial of the facts, but face the facts. if it completly clogged this guys filters, then it might clog someone elses 5%....and such a degree of kidney damage might have NO SYMPTOMS....till your like 50.
Yeah, so ya wasted some money on a bottle of SD. JOIN THE CLUB. i bought FIVE bottles of the stuff months ago, and now icant use'em. Bummed, yeah, i am. but ill take bummed over a dialysis machine the last 3 decades of my life.
i know it feels like your chucking a bottle of "gold", but its not gold...its poop. just imagine it has poop in the bottle. itl help you make the right decision.

id rather take a roid thats hella liver toxic, than a roid thats just a little kidney toxic.

SD though, seems to be both.

dialysis machine the last 3 decades of my life


You friggin said it brotha!! Well put.

[Chad B]

So let me get this strait. The guy went to the doctor after he took the sd, when he was sick. Right? So how do we know how much he really took? Most people would lie for insurance purposes among other reasons. He prob did not want to admit that it was his abuse that caused it.

Maybe I did not read it correctly but it wasent a planned study were the guy was given the sd in the correct dosage by the doctors then monitored.

[macrophage69alpha]

your right it wasnt, no human studies were ever done with this compound.. it never made it much past the levator ani assay. Likely because of toxicology tests done on mice or rats.

by all user accounts and minimal bloodwork done this is an extremely liver and kidney toxic compound.

[macrophage69alpha]

A lot of people don't want the risk of getting busted by the cops. This is a major side effect of "real roids"

so you dont engage in any behaviours that are illegal? and you are aware of the very minimal risks of being busted for possession of AAS?

lets just say you are busted, and even convicted (and dont plea down to a misdemeanor) its a lot better than dialysis.

oh and unless you are dealing AAS, the cops dont bust you.... unless perhaps you are arrested in your house (domestic violence or other crime that would indicate arrest within your house) and you have drugs in plain site.

[Chad B]

your right it wasnt, no human studies were ever done with this compound.. it never made it much past the levator ani assay. Likely because of toxicology tests done on mice or rats.

by all user accounts and minimal bloodwork done this is an extremely liver and kidney toxic compound.

So would you say a 4 week dbol cycle would be safer?

I am natural, just investigating. The kidney thing def scares me.

Thanks bro

[dtnosk66]

bump that d-bol question

[Chad B]

So let me get this strait. The guy went to the doctor after he took the sd, when he was sick. Right? So how do we know how much he really took? Most people would lie for insurance purposes among other reasons. He prob did not want to admit that it was his abuse that caused it.

Maybe I did not read it correctly but it wasent a planned study were the guy was given the sd in the correct dosage by the doctors then monitored.

I think it is evident that this guy abused it and took WAAAY over the recommended dose. Then he goes to the doctor and says “I took the stuff exactly how the directions told me, it’s not my fault, treat me,” “it is not my fault so my insurance should pay” Then the idiot quacks (US term for doctors with big mouths) write a study like it is a fact that he took 2 a day…yea right…with that much damage, impossible. Too many people on this board have taken it successfully. He prob said I want to get huge quick so let me front load and double or triple the dose, I mean come on, people do some pretty stupid things.

[Venum]

i really want to do another cycle of PP....i have 2 bottles

[Giants11]

I think it is evident that this guy abused it and took WAAAY over the recommended dose. Then he goes to the doctor and says “I took the stuff exactly how the directions told me, it’s not my fault, treat me,” “it is not my fault so my insurance should pay” Then the idiot quacks (US term for doctors with big mouths) write a study like it is a fact that he took 2 a day…yea right…with that much damage, impossible. Too many people on this board have taken it successfully. He prob said I want to get huge quick so let me front load and double or triple the dose, I mean come on, people do some pretty stupid things.

Successfully, that is my entire point.

How are you judging this? Cause it certainly isn't by members blood work. As I have not seen anyone post anything up here, at all.

Cholesterol, Kidney Issues and most liver problems associated with Superdrol as well as other meythlated steroids can go undetected because you do not KNOW what is wrong. This can only be derived from blood work.

Of course if a user reports Jaundice, yes we know he took too much. However what if you don't have such syptoms and your insides are hurtin jsut the same? What then?

[Chad B]

Successfully, that is my entire point.

How are you judging this? Cause it certainly isn't by members blood work. As I have not seen anyone post anything up here, at all.

Cholesterol, Kidney Issues and most liver problems associated with Superdrol as well as other meythlated steroids can go undetected because you do not KNOW what is wrong. This can only be derived from blood work.

Of course if a user reports Jaundice, yes we know he took too much. However what if you don't have such syptoms and your insides are hurtin jsut the same? What then?

By successful I mean they did it without having to go to the doctor afterward because of pain and suffering.

Everything we do has an effect even pumping our gas prob has a bad effect on our health. Were do we draw the line?

I just saying I don’t think SD is much worse than say dbol or other oral roids. If somebody takes way to many dbol they are going to have some serious health issues.

I thing shooting test is prob better but just the thought of sticking a needle violates a lot of peoples consciences.
I would like to see some peoples blood work done after sd. I think, but not sure, if a sd cycle is done for 4 weeks in moderation, drinking plenty of water, it is not all that bad. It is usually when people get greedy is when bad things happen.

[D-Bo Dre]

I think it is evident that this guy abused it and took WAAAY over the recommended dose. Then he goes to the doctor and says “I took the stuff exactly how the directions told me, it’s not my fault, treat me,” “it is not my fault so my insurance should pay” Then the idiot quacks (US term for doctors with big mouths) write a study like it is a fact that he took 2 a day…yea right…with that much damage, impossible. Too many people on this board have taken it successfully. He prob said I want to get huge quick so let me front load and double or triple the dose, I mean come on, people do some pretty stupid things.

I agree Chad.. I mean lets look at the facts.. Over the past 5yrs SD has been one of the most popular supps on the market.. Everyone from high school kids to experienced lifters have most likely used it or known someone who has.. Why then have we not heard a wide-spread of negative reports of this so called "horrible" sup?? Obviously the percentage of ppl who have had negative results are those who are uneducated (dosage, supporting supps, pct) or the just plain idiots, who we all know exist..

[D-Bo Dre]

media? reread pal. that was a medical case report. bottom line is it clogged the guys kidney filters completely and hes probly fvcked for life. He used the recomended dose too.
hey, i know your bummed and in denial of the facts, but face the facts. if it completly clogged this guys filters, then it might clog someone elses 5%....and such a degree of kidney damage might have NO SYMPTOMS....till your like 50.
Yeah, so ya wasted some money on a bottle of SD. JOIN THE CLUB. i bought FIVE bottles of the stuff months ago, and now icant use'em. Bummed, yeah, i am. but ill take bummed over a dialysis machine the last 3 decades of my life.
i know it feels like your chucking a bottle of "gold", but its not gold...its poop. just imagine it has poop in the bottle. itl help you make the right decision.

id rather take a roid thats hella liver toxic, than a roid thats just a little kidney toxic.

SD though, seems to be both.

I'm not in denial, nor am I scarred to face the facts.. Rather, I am sceptical to these types of reports who are quick to bash SD after one user with unknown background info unfortunately suffers a pretty serious side. I would also like to comment on your last quote..

"id rather take a roid thats hella liver toxic, than a roid thats just a little kidney toxic."

A human has one liver and two kidneys.. Dont know if I would agree with you on that one..

[notorious_mem]

im going to start a superdrol and myogenx cycle in january i think like any steroid you better do your research and know the possible side effects before you start putting them in your body.

[Project]

[/QUOTE]"id rather take a roid thats hella liver toxic, than a roid thats just a little kidney toxic."

A human has one liver and two kidneys.. Dont know if I would agree with you on that one..[/QUOTE]

I think he's referring to the fact that kidney damage is often irreversible while the liver is a very resilient organ.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

"id rather take a roid thats hella liver toxic, than a roid thats just a little kidney toxic."

A human has one liver and two kidneys.. Dont know if I would agree with you on that one..[/QUOTE]

I think he's referring to the fact that kidney damage is often irreversible while the liver is a very resilient organ.[/QUOTE]

yes.

[Shane35aa]

yes. though in truth you can cant be sure. None of these guys test the material and since its a fairly new synthesis its likely to be impure even if the chinese get it right. (thats one of the other reasons for avoiding these designer steroids)

Thanks for the info