Call it what you will, but the gov. is finally admitting 5 years later what eye-whitnesses experienced first hand.
http://www.supportthetruth.com/hill.php
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Call it what you will, but the gov. is finally admitting 5 years later what eye-whitnesses experienced first hand.
http://www.supportthetruth.com/hill.php
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dont post the left wing bullshit here ............. this is nothing but another "911 conspiracy" promotion .............. take this shit somewhere else
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Im not left wing. I'm not right wing, but do you remember how the use of explosives was denied completely by the government?
There you have it. President Bush had admitted what the eyewitnesses reported on 9-11; that there were bombs inside the World Trade Towers.
Of course, Bush pins the blame for the bombs on Al Qaeda, which is sort of accurate when you consider that most of Al Qaeda is a creation of US and Israeli intelligence.
But in trying to explain away the eyewitness reports of bombs, Bush has dug himself into a deeper logic hole. How did these "Al Qaeda" bombers manage to spend at least a week (according to witnesses who heard and saw them) working inside the buildings under the noses of Bush's cousin and brother, who were in charge of security for the World Trade Center? Security at the towers was tight following the 1993 attempted bombing. You could not simply walk into an elevator unless you could document employment or a meeting. Yet as one can tell from the tell-tale marks left by the cutter charges, these preparations took a great deal of time and materials to carry out.
Why did these "Al Qaeda" bombers go to the extra effort to drop all three buildings straight down instead of toppling them sideways, maximizing the damage?
If Al Qaeda succeeded in bombing the buildings, why bother with the airplanes? Why bother hiding the bombing itself, if it was truly the work of terrorists out to make a statement?
In admitting the bombs, Bush has opened up the inquiry to include the very great amount of incriminating evidence found near the airplanes linking the attacks to Arab nations, versus the total absence of any such evidence near the bombs. This contrast is ONLY explained if the evidence left with the airplanes was planted, to frame someone.
Why did it take 5 years for the government to admit what was obvious to everyone right from the start; that explosives were used to bring down the buildings, unless the original plan was not to admit to the bombs in the first place?
Dubya, in his pathetic attempt to pin the blame for the now-admitted bombs on Al Qaeda, has created far more logical problems then he has solved. I support no-one affiliated with Neo-cons or a leftist/marxist point of veiw.
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Originally Posted by humungus88
basic physics. You cant toppel a building like that, it will drop straight down no matter what.
Obvious to everyone except all the experts that have examined the event I guess....
There is no such thing as a zero radiation tactical hydrogen nuke. To ignite hydrogen fusion you need to achieve several million degres kelvin in a time short enough to not let the hydrogen expand away from the core of the bomb. There is no possible way to do this without a fission trigger(excluding tokamak and laser inertial fusion, instalations that are HUGE) and there is no possible way to make a fission bomb without fallout.
Even if you could ignite a fusion process without the fission trigger it would not be zero radiation since the fusion process itself creates a bombardment of gamma and neutron radiation. Some of the neutrons would be absorbed by the nuclei composing the material in the building and they would in turn get radioactive for a few days or weeks.
Not to mention even the smallest possible nukes would take out a heck of a lot more than just a floor of the tower.
Zero radiation nuke is a fantazy that can not exist in the real world with the real laws of physics. Zero radiation nuke weak enough to just take out a building is so absurdly unrealistic that its laughable.
Are you serious? we can NOT create and store anti matter easily.
At most we can create a few nanograms at cern that can be stored for a few minutes. Jesus you need to read a bit about real physics. If you dont belive me try to calculate the containment field strenght needed to keep a few micrograms of positrons or anti protons togheter. Neutral anti matter atoms have not yet been produced in large quantities, just a few atoms at a time.
This whole idea about a mini fusion bomb brining down the wtc is probably the absurdest I have heard so far. It even beats the idea that all world leaders are lizzards from outer space.
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This is a pancake collapse
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Where are the pancaked floors of this 110 story building??
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amazing comparison, a pic of a collapsed 5 story building and another of a 3-4 story building. that proves everything.
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Who are you to say this?
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We are the previous silent majority. When members post crazy shit, it will be rebuted as the crazy shit that it is. If you allow this crazy shit, which you obviously have, why get pissed at the subsequent rebuttals?
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Cool. I'll vote for him if he's on my ballot.
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Thats cool? 3000 American's murdered for a war in the middle east? Plus more slaughtered and crippled in battle?
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i dont get it...
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this has always intrigued me...Quite frankly i think there is a lot not being told about 9/11 (do you honestly believe the plane was brought down by passengers in PA, or do you believe a commercial airliner crashed into the pentagon when no evidence of one could be found?)...I saw an excellent documentary about all the things that dont add up or make sense...I'll try and find the link in a lil bit. The explosions were one of the main points documented in the video.
I'm not going to take one side over another but I feel an important aspect of being a citizen of the US is not taking everything your government tells you to be the absolute truth. Questioning things our government says about certain events is part of our basic freedoms, and is one that should not be taken for granted.
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Too many coincidences
That George Bush's brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing more than you must admit those Bush boys have done "alright" for themselves.
That Jonathan Bush’s Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million must embarrass his nephew George, but it's still no justification for leaping to paranoid conclusions.
That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama’s brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just 'one of those things' - one of those crazy things.
That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is.
That al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history's little aberrations.
The claims of Michael Springman, State Department veteran of the Jeddah visa bureau, that the CIA ran the office and issued visas to al Qaeda members so they could receive training in the United States, sound like the sour grapes of someone who was fired for making such wild accusations.
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Sigh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How does anyone blow up a building that size and hide it ? Just watch what they have to do to blow up buildings, miles of cabling, drilling of holes etc . Complete bullshit
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Bullshit on you, people reported strange workers in the building for weeks. how do you explain the power down called for by the port authority/ also controlled by the bush brother's!! You want the evidence? you want to call me bullshit??
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Zero radiation tactical hydrogen nuke used to blow the core/ which explains the pools of molten steel, and the fallout from the collapse.
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Furniture and airplane fire did that^^^LOL
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which people reported? Give us evidence, not silly he said she said. It must truely suck to be you, were you picked on in school or picked last for kickball?
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lets not forget about the 2 giant airplanes that also hit the buildings..it wasnt only bombs
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The Ground Zero here is in the original sense of word, a nuclear blast site. The thermal energy may absorb heat at a rate of 10 E 23 ergs / cm2 sec and near the bomb all surfaces may heat to 4000 °C or 7200 °F igniting or vapourizing violently. Source: US Department of Defense & US Department of Energy, Glasstone – Dolan: 'The Effects of Nuclear Weapons' (1980).
The thermonuclear bomb used was a 'pure' hydrogen bomb, so no uranium or plutonium at all. The basic nuclear reaction is Deuterium + Tritium > Alpha + n. The ignition of this is the fine part, either with a powerful beam array or antimatter (a very certain way to get the necessary effect of directed energy in order not to level the adjacent blocks of high-rise buildings, as well).
Orthodox Jewish men were involved: Rabbi Dov Zackheim with Flight Termination Systems and System Planning co. Michael Chertoff who let the Mossad go. Both these men are Orthodox Jews, both were involved in the systems and operations that were likely connected to the WTC's orchestration and collapse.
Observations Suggesting the Use of Small Hydrogen Bombs
1) The concrete pulverized into fine dust, 70…300 micron particles (just this could take more energy than the total gravitational energy available).
2) Very energetic – hot – dust after the explosions. (Demolition charges would produce white clouds of dust, which would not move much, and a gravity-driven collapse would produce much less and more coarse dust.)
3) Brown shades of color seen in the air – these are produced by nuclear reactions of a thermonuclear device. The reactions use (gamma radiation caused by free neutrons, N2, O2, H2O > nitrid acid, NO2, NO3). These clouds soon get their usual white color after some minutes as the heat and fast movement of the clouds cease becoming ordinary clouds with some water.
4) Superheated steel objects, disintegrating into steel vapour. Molten ponds of steel were found in the elevator shafts. There were lots of burned cars in the parking areas of the towers. The fire department did not announce until 12/19/2001 that the fires under the WTC rubble have been distinguished (more than 3 months after the incident). For more, see
That kind of evidence brings the theory of the planes to a kindergarden level. It also shows that the majority of people's heads are at the same level else they couldn't convince so many with such a childish explanation.
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Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."
Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.
The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.
Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.
As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]
Heightened WTC Security Alert Had Just Been Lifted
The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY NewsDay]
Pre-9/11 World Trade Center Power-Down
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]
Marvin Bush was in New York on 9/11
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Yeah the beam array I missed that comment. You should do a search on NIF. Or Im going to spare you the troubble. Here are a few pics of the size needed of lasers to create fusion conditions. Did usama tuck that into his back pocket and snuck it into the wtc when no one looked?
These are just the pump sources for the lasers
10 meter target chamber
Please do tell what magical energy source the terrorist beam array had btw to power the lasers. Did they have a portable nuclear reactor with them or maby some alien batteries?
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No the only ones capable are US and Israeli intelligence. Why don't you ask GW Bush's brother Marvin, he was in charge of security for WTC>
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The technology is here today for mini-H bomb to be installed in the underground floors of WTC1 and 2. How do you explain the pools of molten steel still there after 2 months of clean-up??? Burning furniture?? Or kerosene??why on earth do you think its is zero radiation. BTW that is not even close to beeing a thermonuclear bomb. Its just a small plain old fission bomb exploded in the 70's.
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It does make you think though..
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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/coinc...e15aug04.shtml
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i totally agree with you way too much thats not explained.Did you see how much was edited out of the 9-11 reports.If u dont have nothing too hide why edit out 65% of the document.I know.conspiracy,conspiracy,conspiracy.lol
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The real conspiracy is the official story friend, The ZOG empire that controlls this country, and foreign affairs i s beginning to crumble!!
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u laughing at me?I was agreeingThe real conspiracy is the official story friend, The ZOG empire that controlls this country, and foreign affairs i s beginning to crumble!!
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not really, I laugh at no one, considering our gov. murdered 3000 people in our own country!!! THEY WILL HANG FOR THIS!!!
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your kinda scaring me now.lol
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oh hell here we go again, blame the jews, damn this crap gets oldThe real conspiracy is the official story friend, The ZOG empire that controlls this country, and foreign affairs i s beginning to crumble!!
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what the h**l happened why did my post go here?
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The movie Loose Change explains it all, google it and watch it you'll understand whats going on.
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Our country needs war in order for us to keep building our army. China spends 2/3's of their national income on their army, if we dont have war we cut Army funding. Loose Change explains it.
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Yes my friend, but LOOSE CHANGE does not explain how "LUCKY LARRY SILVERSTIEN" took out a $7,000,000,000 insurance policy aginst terrorist acts 2 moths before 911, or explain how both towers needed dismantling to rid them of azbestos and other building hazzards, dismantling would cost a proposed $12,000,000,000.
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He was in on it.Dont you think if they didnt cover him he would make such a big stink??? He would have lost his ass.
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Fuc I dont know how to make a link.
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7866929448192753501&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
Cut and paste this , it goes right to the video.
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