David Duke on Wolf Blitzer

[J.S.N.]

blitzer is an idiot he got pwnt by a whacko like david duke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBZOPRaan0w

[Fat Guy]

David is not as nuts or as unintelligent as one might think...

[J.S.N.]

agreed, however his views slant a little heavily toward the zionists and ignore the roles of guys like the sheiks and dupont types.

[ecivon]

blitzer is an idiot he got pwnt by a whacko like david duke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBZOPRaan0w

I don't know enough about Duke to comment on his background, or his 'slants', but what he said about Zionism, AIPAC and US politics was right on the mark.

[FearlessFighter]

I don't know enough about Duke to comment on his background, or his 'slants', but what he said about Zionism, AIPAC and US politics was right on the mark.

Yep, I agree. It was excellent!

Besides, David Duke have left his past thirty years ago--but that didn't stop this former AIPAC scum Blitzer to repeat himself eleven times in the introduction, which they later had to cut

Anyway, Duke says this about his past in the interview:

That was over 30 — well, 30 years ago in my life, and since that time I got elected to the House of Representatives, I became — and I received a full doctorate, I have been a teacher, I have one of the best selling books in the world.

http://www.altermedia.info/civil-rig...utube_189.html

The recent coverage of him in the media and of the conference which Duke attended has been lied about so much that I have absolutely no faith at all in any of the major news services in USA.

Proof: the Media Lies About the Holocaust Conference in Tehran. Here is proof of the lies of the Zionist-influenced media.

It is being reported around the world that in my speech in Tehran that I stated that the “gas chambers did not exist.” You can read and even listen to my speech right here on www.davidduke.com.

I said no such thing! In fact I said specifically that I take no position on that issue but that I believe in freedom of speech and find it an outrage that men such as David Irving are in prison for simply voicing an intellectual, historical opinion. Listen to my speech yourself at www.davidduke.com!

The Zionist-influenced media has maintained that the purpose of the conference was to deny the Holocaust — when the actual,stated purpose was to provide free speech on this important historical issue and to protest against the suppression of free speech in some European countries. The record of the conference is clear. There were many speeches at the conference that maintained the mainstream Holocaust view.

[ecivon]

... I have absolutely no faith at all in any of the major news services in USA.

... nobody in their right mind should. Every single media type outlet is either outwardly owned, or editorially controlled by jews, specifically zionists.

[TheMachine]

... nobody in their right mind should. Every single media type outlet is either outwardly owned, or editorially controlled by jews, specifically zionists.

Yeah! It's amazing how they make Palestinians the aggressors and not the victim LOL

[J.S.N.]

1+1=3 as long as it fits into an internally-consistent piece of journalism with opposing sources consisting of statements, which have been proven time and again to be completely infalliable lol.

[Bigen12]

Seems he has experience in other fields of study....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke

Using the pseudonym Dorothy Vanderbilt, Duke published a self-help book for women, titled Finders-Keepers, in 1976. The publication gives advice to women regarding vaginal exercises, fellatio, analingus, and anal sex.[20] [21] The manual is no longer in print and hard to find; however, the Times-Picayune, a New Orleans newspaper, managed to find a copy and trace the trail of its proceeds to the original author via the publisher. Duke compiled information from various women's self-help magazines, and published the book to raise money for his activities, though the book turned out to be a flop.[12]

[Bigen12]

You might get a better idea of what he is all about if you check out a forum where he posts....

Stormfront.org
In 1995, Don Black and Chloê Hardin, Duke's ex-wife, began a small bulletin board service or BBS by the name Stormfront. Today, Stormfront has become a premier online forum for white supremacy, white nationalism, and anti-semitism. Duke has an account on Stormfront which he uses to post articles from his own website, davidduke.com, as well as polling forum members for opinions and questions, in particular during his internet broadcasts. Duke has worked with Don Black on numerous projects including Operation Red Dog in 1980.[48] [49]

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...ns-348451.html

SF accepts jews and africans ?

i would to ask something and im realy ashamed to ask.

but some memebers from national alliance on vnnforum are saying that you (SF&NV)
are accepting jews and ni***rs as officers in your organization
is it true ?

if its not true how we can answer these people and disprove their claims ?

[FearlessFighter]

You might get a better idea of what he is all about if you check out a forum where he posts....



http://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...ns-348451.html

Why do you associate David Duke with two people who has probably never even met him?

Why don't you instead post some of his recent articles and speeches?

[FearlessFighter]

By the way, I know many people who are members at SF. Jews, colored people and caucasian people. I am a member there too, but I only read the Revisionist forum and sometimes I participate in the debates in that section.

Additionally I find it so amusing that his detractors NEVER address the issues but concentrate mostly on his past and other irrelevant issues - it is the same in the recent news reports about the conference, all lies and nothing is addressed. Typical!

[edit]
I'll read your response later. I don't have time to wait any further.

[Teabagger]

Like my avie??

[singern]

The true irony here is that our resident terrorist supporters are hailing the leader of the KKK, Mr Duke, as a national hero because he hates Jews.........its a shame Hitler himself could not attend, they would have named him the messenger of Mohammed...

[Bigen12]

Why do you associate David Duke with two people who has probably never even met him?

It goes to show his character and the character of a forum in witch he feels comfortable posting in. If that type of racism was posted on this forum, it would be deleted ASAP, because that type of thing isn't allowed here.

Why don't you instead post some of his recent articles and speeches?

I’m sorry, but I don’t buy this new man jazz, I believe he's learned to tone down his hate, that’s all.

[Bigen12]

By the way, I know many people who are members at SF. Jews, colored people and caucasian people. I am a member there too, but I only read the Revisionist forum and sometimes I participate in the debates in that section.

From discussions that you and I have had, I’m not surprised that you are a member there.

Additionally I find it so amusing that his detractors NEVER address the issues but concentrate mostly on his past and other irrelevant issues - it is the same in the recent news reports about the conference, all lies and nothing is addressed. Typical!

When ever listening to a source of information, as you yourself have noted, one must be very careful.

When an opinion or movement can only receive a voice from a former KKK member, and white supremacist, in my mind that speaks volumes about the message.

[Bigen12]

Here are some quotes I found....

DAVID DUKE: IN HIS OWN WORDS
“White people don't need a law against rape, but if you fill this room up with your normal black bucks, you would, because niggers are basically primitive animals.”
—The Sun (Wichita, Kan.), April 23, 1975

“Our clear goal must be the advancement of the white race and separation of the white and black races. This goal must include freeing of the American media and government from subservient Jewish interests.”
—“Klan Code of Conduct,” Duke Speaks Out, a column in the Crusader (newspaper of the KKKK, then led by David Duke), November 1978

“Am I an alarmist? Is my vision unreal? All one has to do is look around this globe and see the Third World reality. Are whites holding every one of the nonwhite countries down, or are we in fact pumping billions of dollars into them along with every technological aid that the West can produce? And now the West itself is gradually being enveloped by nonwhite immigration. The exploding numbers of nonwhites are slowly wrapping formerly white nations in a dark human cocoon. Shall a butterfly emerge, or the beast that has haunted the ruins of every great white civilization that submitted to invasion by immigration and racial miscegenation?”
—NAAWP News, Issue no. 24, signed article by David Duke, April 1983

"...Immigration along with nonwhite birthrates will make white people a minority totally vulnerable to the political, social, and economic will of blacks, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, and Orientals. A social upheaval is now beginning to occur that will be the funeral dirge of the America we love. I shudder to contemplate the future under nonwhite occupation; rapes, murders, robberies multiplied a hundred fold, illiteracy such as in Haiti, medicine such as in Mexico, and tyranny such as in Togoland.
—NAAWP News, Issue no. 24, signed article by David Duke, April 1983

"What we really want to do is to be left alone. We don't want Negroes around. We don't need Negroes around. We're not asking –– you know, we don't want to have them, you know, for our culture. We simply want our own country and our own society. That's in no way exploitive at all. We want our own society, our own nation...."

–-Duke interview with doctoral student Evelyn Rich, who traveled around the country with Duke while conducting research for her dissertation on the KKK, March 1985

[RA]

I knew you two would come out and say he looked good and was right...thats funny. He looked like an idiot calling Wolf Blitzer an agent of the zionists

He did nothing to further his agenda or bring people to his cause. Only people who were wacko anti jew thought it was a good interview.

[FearlessFighter]

I knew you two would come out and say he looked good and was right...thats funny. He looked like an idiot calling Wolf Blitzer an agent of the zionists

He did nothing to further his agenda or bring people to his cause. Only people who were wacko anti jew thought it was a good interview.

You know, Wolf Blitzer was working for the AIPAC, American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

So Duke's comment wasn't so far-fetched at all:

DUKE: But you know something? You can’t handle me, and you can’t handle the truth, and the fact is, you are an agent of Zionism. You work for AIPAC…

That is the truth. So we at you.

[RA]

You know, Wolf Blitzer was working for the AIPAC, American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

So Duke's comment wasn't so far-fetched at all:



That is the truth. So we at you.

Yes, that makes him an agent of the zionists You should get a life and stop hating jews.

[FearlessFighter]

Yes, that makes him an agent of the zionists You should get a life and stop hating jews.

Wait a moment there gonzales, I don't hate Jews! Where the heck have you read that?

I challenge you to submit evidence for this accusation.

Whenever people like you disagree with another man's opinion he's somebody who hates Jews. The state of many Americans today is disgraceful, I really am ashamed to live there.

[RA]

Wait a moment there gonzales, I don't hate Jews! Where the heck have you read that?

I challenge you to submit evidence for this accusation.

Whenever people like you disagree with another man's opinion he's somebody who hates Jews. The state of many Americans today is disgraceful, I really am ashamed to live there.

All of your posts are anti-Israel. So, for your sake Ill put it a different way...you dislike jews to the point you want Israel wiped off the map. That better?

If your ashamed of America then dont live here.

[J.S.N.]

Yes, that makes him an agent of the zionists You should get a life and stop hating jews.

AIPAC is zionist.

[Bigen12]

That does not answer the question.

I explained the difference between the racist hate that was posted on SF and the consequences of an idiotic post. My argument against Duke is based on many factors, his past and his current association with SF, a forum where white supremacist and neo Nazi’s post their hate.

What views - specifics please.

Since you haven’t completely clarified I’m basing it on your apparent support of Duke, by your defending him, and your apparent support of the people who are questioning the Holocaust.

So keep us from guessing, please tell us your views on the Holocaust, and Jews in general.

Who's hands?

The hands of the news organization.

You still don't get it. Incredible. David Duke is not a spokes person for the conference, he was an attendee.

My point is that if Duke and Ahmadinejad, both who publicly have pronounced their dislike of Jews or have had anti Jewish opinions even in the past, are to be the only big named people to attend such a conference, no one will take it serious.

It just happens that the media likes to focus on him for the simple reason that they can attack him for his past - AND never the relevant issues. Never. That is the important thing--but logical, critical thinking is required to see this.

Again, in order to put one’s point of view into context, you must look at the person, their experiences, and Duke’s past and his present views or associations point to a racist.

[Bigen12]

No, to be perfectly honest, it isn't better! You are only repeating a lousy lie without even knowing that it is a lie. I assume that, but who knows, perhaps you do.

See:
If Iran is ready to talk, the US must do so unconditionally
by Jonathan Steele
Friday June 2, 2006
The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...788481,00.html

relevant segments:


I suggest you get your indoctrination straight in the future

First off you are quoting an editorial, not a news story. That was written by an Author who seems to constantly support an anti Israeli/US view.

Second, when Aljazeera also confirmes that is what he said, I think I'll believe their translation.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/ar...rchiveId=15816

Ahmadinejad: Wipe Israel off map

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has openly called for Israel to be wiped off the map.

"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism.
"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.
"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini.
His comments were the first time in years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for Israel's eradication, even though such slogans are still regularly used at government
rallies.

[J.S.N.]

why would al-jazeera have some advantage on the translation? that looks like a reprint of the AP article.

[Bigen12]

why would al-jazeera have some advantage on the translation? that looks like a reprint of the AP article.

You don't think that is from Al-Jazeera?
Then by all means, simply click on the link and see for yourself.

You don't understand why an Al-Jazeera, a Middle East, Arabic news source would be more reliable, in this instance, or more likely to properly translate the quote??

Give me a break....

[J.S.N.]

You don't think that is from Al-Jazeera?
Then by all means, simply click on the link and see for yourself.

You don't understand why an Al-Jazeera, a Middle East, Arabic news source would be more reliable, in this instance, or more likely to properly translate the quote??

Give me a break....

no, tell me why al-jareera would be more likely to properly translate.

and i didn't say it isn't form al-jazeera, i said it's the same reprinted article in all US papers.

[Bigen12]

no, tell me why al-jareera would be more likely to properly translate.

Seeing as Aljazeera is an Middle East news station, that has had enjoyed popularity for broadcasting the anti American / Israeli rantings of terrorists, especially directly following the 9-11 attacks, I see no reason for them to mislead the public in their translation of the words of Ahmadinejad.

and i didn't say it isn't form al-jazeera, i said it's the same reprinted article in all US papers.

No you didn't,
You stated

that looks like a reprint of the AP article.

[J.S.N.]

Seeing as Aljazeera is an Middle East news station, that has had enjoyed popularity for broadcasting the anti American / Israeli rantings of terrorists, especially directly following the 9-11 attacks, I see no reason for them to mislead the public in their translation of the words of Ahmadinejad.

if by "broadcasting the anti American / Israeli rantings of terrorists, especially directly following the 9-11 attacks..." you means playing messages from bin laden and company, then even fox "fair and balanced" news is guilty of that. but if take them as "pro-terrorist" (does that mean they support the ira too?), then wouldn't they have a vested interest in painting iran as critical of the us and israel as well? ...or they could simply be reprinting an article in the same way that all major newspapers do.

No you didn't,
You stated

those two statements are almost identical. do you have some kind of disability that hinders your reading comprehension or do you think there's some gap between the meaning of those two sentences?

[Act of God]

I don't really know what the truth is anymore, but I do know that I support any whack job out there's right to deny or question "history". As we know it, history is told through the eyes and pens of the victors. Even if it were unintentional, the story is biased inherently.

Did the "holocaust" happen? Yes, something did happen that was started by the Germans during that war. I don't think any credible sources can really discount what was found and the still living evidence of the same.

Do I think that Jews try to keep a monopoly of holocaust sympathy? Absolutely. Last time I checked 25 million people died during this time. Of those 25 million people, 5 million were jews. Anyone with 5th grade math skills would realize that most of the people who died there, by FAR, were gentiles. Do you read more than a sentence about those people in our history books? Did their losses not mean as much compared to the jews?

I guess my stance is that of course the holocaust did happen, but I think history needs a little fine tuning on the subject to be accurate. I also think there are millions of people who need to be recognized as much as the jews that were lost in the murders.

As for David Duke, I would have a hard time trusting anything he said and aligning myself with him. That show, however, put him on as a setup for some sensationalist journalism. It was supposed to be a professional hit, and Duke actually did ok for himself dodging the bullets. I think he had some good points about the Jewish controlled media/lobby groups in America. I don't, however, think he's the right person to be making these statements.

Unfortunately, even if he was 100% right all you have to do is call him an anti-semite and all his (or anyone speaking on the subject) credibility goes out the window AUTOMATICALLY.

Sho' Nuff

[Bigen12]

if by "broadcasting the anti American / Israeli rantings of terrorists, especially directly following the 9-11 attacks..." you means playing messages from bin laden and company, then even fox "fair and balanced" news is guilty of that. but if take them as "pro-terrorist" (does that mean they support the ira too?), then wouldn't they have a vested interest in painting iran as critical of the us and israel as well? ...or they could simply be reprinting an article in the same way that all major newspapers do.

I am clear on my thinking; it appears that you are having a problem deciding who to trust.

You’re dancing around making a statement here, be a man and let us know what you actually think.

those two statements are almost identical. do you have some kind of disability that hinders your reading comprehension or do you think there's some gap between the meaning of those two sentences?

No apparently you do, I don’t know how much simpler I can make it for you and I simply give up on you, you require much more help than I am willing to give.

[J.S.N.]

I am clear on my thinking; it appears that you are having a problem deciding who to trust.

You’re dancing around making a statement here, be a man and let us know what you actually think.

lol i'm not going to make an issue black and white. that type of shit is for morons.

No apparently you do, I don’t know how much simpler I can make it for you and I simply give up on you, you require much more help than I am willing to give.

both times i said the article was a reprint. you tell me what the difference was.

[Bigen12]

lol i'm not going to make an issue black and white. that type of shit is for morons.

Good move on your part,

I think Mark Twain put it best...

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
-- Mark Twain

[J.S.N.]

is that why you skirt every point with neomccarthian response? (yes)

i'll give you the last word, thanks for being on the factor.

[Bigen12]

is that why you skirt every point with neomccarthian response? (yes)

Perhaps I have confused you even further.

I'll make it simple for you, I asked you

be a man and let us know what you actually think.

you responded

lol i'm not going to make an issue black and white. that type of shit is for morons.

I see a couple of possible causes for this response; you don’t have a real opinion, can’t substantiate your opinion, or are scared or ashamed of your opinion.

[Bigen12]

In order to check what Ahmadinejad said, I checked with a friend of mine from Lebanon who is a supporter of Ahmadinejad. His translation would be "wiping/ending the zionist regimes".

[singern]

His translation would be "wiping/ending the zionist regimes".

You, I and everybody on the planet knows the only way to do that is to kill every single Jew in israel, so the translation stands.

[eliteforce]

or you could just give Palestinians rights in a unity state, and remove religion from the government-that would end the zionist regime w/o killing jews, he never said kill jews or nuke israel, he did at one time say that some of the jews should go back to Europe-i think that one was hostile but when dik army was speaker of the house(US pm) he went on TV and said he thinks the Palestinians should leave the wb and no one in America said shit when the fing speaker of america is advocating ethnic cleansing! instead they talk about mel gibson.

the western media and israeli and american govt have an agenda to characterize iran as bad as they possibly can.

You, I and everybody on the planet knows the only way to do that is to kill every single Jew in israel, so the translation stands.

Originally Posted by Bigen12
His translation would be "wiping/ending the zionist regimes".

[J.S.N.]

think about what?