obama: what a joke

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:00 PM

man, I dont give a crap, for the past 8 years Ive been thinking I could do a better job as president of the US than George W Bush has done. Obama simply has to be able to read "my pet goat"...wait too long to respond to national disaster and go to war in the wrong country and hey, hes capable of being president. I am voting this year for whoever wants us to leave Iraq, whoever doesnt have revenue coming from oil companies and pharmeceutical comapnies and one who hasnet ever been into insider trading. So again anyone but Bush. how sad that Id even be relieved if crazy diapers Mcain won, and i cant stand that mini Bush

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 02:14 PM

More pearls of wisdom from Michelle Obama:

“For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country, because it feels like hope is making a comeback.”

"I don't lose sleep over it, because the realities are that, you know, as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, you know. So, you know, you can't -- you know, you can't make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen. We just weren't raised that way."

"I've got nothing in common with this guy. He grew up in Hawaii! Who grows up in Hawaii? He was biracial. I was like, okay, what's that about? And then it's a funny name, Barack Obama. Who names their child Barack Obama?"

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:18 PM

guys.....who thinks George Bush is a racist? who thinks Obama is a racist? who thinks themsleves to be a racist? I believe we are all racist in some meaning of the word, but seriously, why no outrage when Bush was in office being a complete racist by actions rather than what he says?

**lotaquestions** · 03-31-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by BITTAPART2

guys.....who thinks George Bush is a racist? who thinks Obama is a racist? who thinks themsleves to be a racist? I believe we are all racist in some meaning of the word, but seriously, why no outrage when Bush was in office being a complete racist by actions rather than what he says?

what actions are you refering to?

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

what actions are you refering to?

HURRICANE KATRINA for starters! do you think a bunch of oil rich rednecks would be stranded like that?

**lotaquestions** · 03-31-2008, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by BITTAPART2

HURRICANE KATRINA for starters! do you think a bunch of oil rich rednecks would be stranded like that?

didnt the black mayor of new orleans, who had the use of thousand of city buses and didnt use them do the same thing? what else did you want him to do, go pick them up in air force one?

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

didnt the black mayor of new orleans, who had the use of thousand of city buses and didnt use them do the same thing? what else did you want him to do, go pick them up in air force one?

mayor...president hmmm huge national disaster killing thousands? a mayor should have dealt with that, the president should have waited, your exactly right....sarcasm

**BgMc31** · 03-31-2008, 02:18 PM

Zartan, none of those statements made by her were racists. Keep trying! What do you call a person who sees something that isn't there? Dillusional!

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

Zartan, none of those statements made by her were racists. Keep trying! What do you call a person who sees something that isn't there? Dillusional!

What do you call a person with their head buried in the sand?

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:24 PM

im white and I havent been proud to be an american in 8 years

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 02:30 PM

"Earlier in my college career, there was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the White community I was somehow obligated to this community and would utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit this community first and foremost. My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my "Whiteness" than ever before. I found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my Black professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong. Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be Black first and a student second.
These experineces have made it apparent to me that the path I have chosen to follow by attending Princeton will likely lead to my further integration and/or assimilation into a Black cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant. This realization has presently, made my goals to actively utilize my resources to benefit the White community more desireable."

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:31 PM

^^^just like my highschool BTW. I felt the same as her but I was the 5% of white people at my inner city HS

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 02:35 PM

No actually I would vote for Obama over the old foguey. Its cool to be black, if anything. Look at the media, black is like 12% of the population but scan through the channels on TV. I think its ****ed up saying you will help any community based on their color. Help the ones that need it, poor, young, old, black OR white shouldn't be an issue.

**Carlos_E** · 03-31-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by zartan

No actually I would vote for Obama over the old foguey. Its cool to be black, if anything. Look at the media, black is like 12% of the population but scan through the channels on TV. I think its ****ed up saying you will help any community based on their color. Help the ones that need it, poor, young, old, black OR white shouldn't be an issue.

Tell that to the Jewish and Asian communities in America. Last time I check they help themselves.

**BgMc31** · 03-31-2008, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by zartan

No actually I would vote for Obama over the old foguey. Its cool to be black, if anything. Look at the media, black is like 12% of the population but scan through the channels on TV. I think its ****ed up saying you will help any community based on their color. Help the ones that need it, poor, young, old, black OR white shouldn't be an issue.

Even with the plugins it doesn't make her a racists. You my find it messed up that people will help their own before others but that doesn't make one a racists. No where in her writings does she write about Black superiority or defame whites in any way. She was speaking from experiences.

Like Carlos said, Jews, Italians, Hispanics, etc., support their on first it doesn't make them racists. So why is Mrs. Obama a racists. I'm still waiting for a racist statement by her and so far you've produced zero!

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

Even with the plugins it doesn't make her a racists. You my find it messed up that people will help their own before others but that doesn't make one a racists. No where in her writings does she write about Black superiority or defame whites in any way. She was speaking from experiences.

Like Carlos said, Jews, Italians, Hispanics, etc., support their on first it doesn't make them racists. So why is Mrs. Obama a racists. I'm still waiting for a racist statement by her and so far you've produced zero!

good point

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

Even with the plugins it doesn't make her a racists. You my find it messed up that people will help their own before others but that doesn't make one a racists. No where in her writings does she write about Black superiority or defame whites in any way. She was speaking from experiences.

Like Carlos said, Jews, Italians, Hispanics, etc., support their on first it doesn't make them racists. So why is Mrs. Obama a racists. I'm still waiting for a racist statement by her and so far you've produced zero!

Oh so If I vote for Hitlery or a white person because she is 'my own' thats good?

**Carlos_E** · 03-31-2008, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by zartan

Oh so If I vote for Hitlery or a white person because she is 'my own' thats good?

Who is voting for Obama because he's Black?

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Who is voting for Obama because he's Black?

The point is if we are gonna start 'looking after our own' where does that lead us? Certainly not presidential material.

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:42 PM

I think racism and clasism are becoming very very similar, I believe classism is a lot worse though. Republicans like Bush will not help poor people period! its that arrogant attitude that only people whove been born into a rich family and spoon fed through college on daddys dime will say that crap about "you are where you are becuae you out yoursefl there" a load of crap IMO. If you were born as dumb as george bush in the hood your ass would still be in the hood, but instead he was born a bush and now hes the GD president of the United States?

**lotaquestions** · 03-31-2008, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by BITTAPART2

I think racism and clasism are becoming very very similar, I believe classism is a lot worse though. Republicans like Bush will not help poor people period! its that arrogant attitude that only people whove been born into a rich family and spoon fed through college on daddys dime will say that crap about "you are where you are becuae you out yoursefl there" a load of crap IMO. If you were born as dumb as george bush in the hood your ass would still be in the hood, but instead he was born a bush and now hes the GD president of the United States?

is there no level of personal responsibabilty in the US?

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 02:50 PM

is there no level of personal responsibabilty in the US?

^^^have you been raised in a black poverty stricken neighborhood? if so than ill shut up but otherwise you cant tell me how it is trying to overcome those obstacles bro

**lotaquestions** · 03-31-2008, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by BITTAPART2

is there no level of personal responsibabilty in the US?

^^^have you been raised in a black poverty stricken neighborhood? if so than ill shut up but otherwise you cant tell me how it is trying to overcome those obstacles bro

no but i was raised in poverty, and i didnt have the black wild card to play. i was just a poor white boy who had to work for everything i have gotten. but instead of waiting on someone to feel sorry for me and wipe my nose for me i took responsibality for my self (key word: responsibality). so do i know what it is like to be black...no do i know what it is like to be raised in poverty.....yes

**BITTAPART2** · 03-31-2008, 03:03 PM

and how is someone going to start a thread calling Borak Obama a joke? can you do what he did in the face of aversity or even without any adversity? gimmie a break, obama is far from a joke. He may not be your choice for president but this guy is something special, dont let your personal thoughts on POLOTICS get in the way of rationality, go to his website, see all the contributions, you think you could get anywhere near the following he has gotten? a joke, thats a joke

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 03:19 PM

Michelle is doing tons of campaigning, I think its abundantly clear this is one of those 2 for 1 deals. Also there is the whole guilty by association rule, as with Obama and his church that gave lewis pharakon a lifetime achievement award. You think if Mccain's church gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award it would be business as usual?

**Carlos_E** · 03-31-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by zartan

Michelle is doing tons of campaigning, I think its abundantly clear this is one of those 2 for 1 deals. Also there is the whole guilty by association rule, as with Obama and his church that gave lewis pharakon a lifetime achievement award. You think if Mccain's church gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award it would be business as usual?

Pat Robertson. No difference.

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Pat Robertson. No difference.

im pretty sure pat robertson was supporting giuliani. Is there something I dont know, from what I saw Mccain has denounced pat robertson http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/news/...aduation/2382/

either way its kind of a moot point, McCain is a complete asswipe.

**BgMc31** · 03-31-2008, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by zartan

Michelle is doing tons of campaigning, I think its abundantly clear this is one of those 2 for 1 deals. Also there is the whole guilty by association rule, as with Obama and his church that gave lewis pharakon a lifetime achievement award. You think if Mccain's church gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award it would be business as usual?

Why don't you google McCain's spritiual guide, Rod Parsons (I believe that's his name), who calls for mass murder of Palistenians and the complete irradication of Islam. Not to mention the total annihilation of homosexuals. Google him and then shoot of your mouth!

**Tock** · 03-31-2008, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

this guy donated less than 1% of his million+ earnings this past year, not really democratic huh?

Um, and how do you know this? Is there a weblink to some source that knows about such things?

i bet that he wont be as stingy with my money.

Republicans have owned the Presidency, the Senate, and the Congress from 2000 to 2006. What did they do for us peons, other than start a war (for no good reason) and ensure steady business for defense companies and keep the oil companies rolling in record profits?

The gov't is bailing out multi-billion $$ banking companies, mortgage companies, and big companies get major tax write-offs and subsidies when they start up. But when I opened up my storefront business, I didn't qualify for anything -- not one red cent.

Looks to me that the big guys are well-taken care of. The little guys, independant shop owners, well, we don't get anything other than tax bills.

that is only around $10000! i made around 90k and i gave my church . . . close to that.

Today's Bible Lesson:

Matthew Chapter 6, verses 1 - 4:

"1": Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

"2": Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

"3": But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

"4": That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

not only is he a racist he is a hypocrite.

Tsk tsk tsk.
You've announced your wonderful inclination to charity for all to see and hear; you have already received your reward.

No need for further comment . . .

**Act of God** · 03-31-2008, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Tock

Um, and how do you know this? Is there a weblink to some source that knows about such things?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...IcI&refer=home

**lotaquestions** · 03-31-2008, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Act of God

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...IcI&refer=home

thanks for the link i wish i had it earlier

**Carlos_E** · 03-31-2008, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by lotaquestions

thanks for the link i wish i had it earlier

And he donated 6% after that. I posted the numbers on a previous page. Bloomberg.com left that part out. I wonder why.

It's in his tax returns. Go look at the returns, not bloomberg.

**lotaquestions** · 03-31-2008, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

And he donated 6% after that. I posted the numbers on a previous page. Bloomberg.com left that part out. I wonder why.

It's in his tax returns. Go look at the returns, not bloomberg.

people tend to straiten up when they start to run for office

**Act of God** · 03-31-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

And he donated 6% after that. I posted the numbers on a previous page. Bloomberg.com left that part out. I wonder why.

It's in his tax returns. Go look at the returns, not bloomberg.

Why would he(they) leave that part out? Seems to me that Obama made a clear 180 as soon as he got presidential aspirations. Considering what he is all about, you'd expect him to be a shining example of giving throughout his life.

**BITTAPART2** · 04-01-2008, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Tock

Um, and how do you know this? Is there a weblink to some source that knows about such things?

Republicans have owned the Presidency, the Senate, and the Congress from 2000 to 2006. What did they do for us peons, other than start a war (for no good reason) and ensure steady business for defense companies and keep the oil companies rolling in record profits?

The gov't is bailing out multi-billion $$ banking companies, mortgage companies, and big companies get major tax write-offs and subsidies when they start up. But when I opened up my storefront business, I didn't qualify for anything -- not one red cent.

Looks to me that the big guys are well-taken care of. The little guys, independant shop owners, well, we don't get anything other than tax bills.

Today's Bible Lesson:

Matthew Chapter 6, verses 1 - 4:

"1": Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

"2": Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

"3": But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

"4": That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Tsk tsk tsk.
You've announced your wonderful inclination to charity for all to see and hear; you have already received your reward.

No need for further comment . . .

Tock, very good post

**zartan** · 03-31-2008, 04:32 PM

Not shootin off my mouth, I already pointed out I would vote for Obama over McCain. I'm just not like you who chooses to see Obama as some kind of golden boy who can do no wrong.

btw his name is rod parsley

**BgMc31** · 03-31-2008, 05:37 PM

I saw the video just as many times as everyone else. I asked you to post what he said that was racists. I know what he said was inflammatory and harsh, but racists? Hardly!

**lotaquestions** · 03-31-2008, 08:50 PM

tock good point i shouldnt have been posted my earning/offerings, your right i didnt think much about it since nobody on here knows me or my church, but point noted.

**Carlos_E** · 03-31-2008, 11:10 PM

His donations percentage went up BEFORE he started running for president.

**Act of God** · 03-31-2008, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

His donations percentage went up BEFORE he started running for president.

Hence why I said "presidential aspirations". Reading is FUNdamental

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