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    hey seriousmass, can't help you with the winny.

    Why are you trying different injection sites? Just experimenting? Thanks for taking the pain lol I considered trying the delt or quads, but I think I will stick to glutes myself.

    Starting up next week I believe. Definitely let us know how you're doing and when it kicks in.

    As for your girl, that'd be up to you and your relationship. Just from the little description you gave I wouldn't tell her, but if you guys are very close, etc, then it might be something you have to do. You can always blame it on creatine and a prohormone? I have told a girl of my plans and got the typical speech, of small penis, dangerous, roid rage, etc. So just be aware of that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_k View Post
    hey seriousmass, can't help you with the winny.

    Why are you trying different injection sites? Just experimenting? Thanks for taking the pain lol I considered trying the delt or quads, but I think I will stick to glutes myself.

    Starting up next week I believe. Definitely let us know how you're doing and when it kicks in.

    As for your girl, that'd be up to you and your relationship. Just from the little description you gave I wouldn't tell her, but if you guys are very close, etc, then it might be something you have to do. You can always blame it on creatine and a prohormone? I have told a girl of my plans and got the typical speech, of small penis, dangerous, roid rage, etc. So just be aware of that!
    Hey buddy.. yah, I just wanted to try injecting into other areas. It's always good to rotate injection spots to keep the receptors fresh. But like I said.. it didn't work for me! haha. I can't wait for the Test to kick in, I'm thinking probably 2 - 3 more weeks. And then I'm off to Jamaica for a week on February 14th with the new killer body!! haha. Thanks for the GF advice as well. I'm just planning on leaving her in the dark. I've told her that I'm starting a creatine cycle & test-boosters . Anyways, thanks for the comment, and good luck with your upcoming cycle as well.

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    What's going on boys. Alright so just injected this morning. It went well. (It took my delt 2 days to recover from injecting into the vein.. it was uber sore. really wack.) I feel like my recovery is getting a lot quicker. I don't even feel sore after my leg workout anymore.. but that might just be psychological. who knows. lol.

    Anyways, I've decided that I'm going to backload my cycle with some winstrol. I'm going to run it like this:

    Weeks (1 - 11) test - e @ 500mg / EW
    Weeks (9 - 13) winstrol @ 50mg / ED -- injectable --
    Weeks (14 - 17) PCT = nolva, hcg, clomid

    But yah, just wanted to give you guys the heads up. I hope that compound works well for me. I've seen my friends get some unbelievable results from it.. so pretty stoked.

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    will u be injecting yoru winny or drinking it? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray0414 View Post
    will u be injecting yoru winny or drinking it? lol
    lol.

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    how's it going everyone?! well I haven't updated this thread lately - I've been working on my diet / improving it a lot lately. Anyways, injections are going well, still barely getting sore. I'm retaining quite a bit of water weight though. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning my face is like... i dunno.. puffy?? haha. It sounds weird but.. yah..

    I'm going to try and start cutting back on sodium intake... maybe that'll reduce the bloat a little bit. -- No real strength gains yet, I'm assuming I'll start seeing results within the next week or two. Recovery has definitely improved.

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    What made you decide to add in the winny? this is your 1st cycle right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by run_n_fool View Post
    What made you decide to add in the winny? this is your 1st cycle right?
    Good question. Well to be honest.. it was sort of an impulsive buy. My friends could get a month dose for ridiculously cheap.. but it was only temporary.. so I decided why the hell not!! haha. A bunch of my buddies run winstrol cycles fairly often, and the results it produces are good. (I like how it hardens the muscles, etc).. especially when I'm coming off the test, to reduce bloat. Nevertheless, some VETS have mentioned that it can really dry out the joints, causing inflammation / soreness. (I'll keep you guys posted on my results). -- yes this is my first cycle -- but since I decided not frontload / kick-start with an oral, (I don't think I'll ever do d-bol or a-drol) I decided to backload instead.

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    Just injected this morning. It went well. I'm starting to see weight gains now. I'm up 5.5 pounds. Strength has also improved, on all my sets I'm up ~10 pounds. I'm going to start increasing calorie intake to ~5000 each day, to accommodate weight gain. Other things to note: vascularity has increased DRAMATICALLY. (I also got a little acne for the first time in like 5 years lol. But I hit the tanning beds yesterday - I think it took care of it )

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Just injected this morning. It went well. I'm starting to see weight gains now. I'm up 5.5 pounds. Strength has also improved, on all my sets I'm up ~10 pounds. I'm going to start increasing calorie intake to ~5000 each day, to accommodate weight gain. Other things to note: vascularity has increased DRAMATICALLY. (I also got a little acne for the first time in like 5 years lol. But I hit the tanning beds yesterday - I think it took care of it )
    Nice to here that bro! keep posting.
    Goodluck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    Nice to here that bro! keep posting.
    Goodluck!
    Thanks man. I appreciate it

    Things to Note:

    1.) I don't know what everyone was talking about that roid-rage doesn't exist. I am a very sociable, friendly individual... but as of a week ago I am mad at EVERYTHING. I don't necessarily always portray it, but I'm constantly angry inside.. very odd.

    2.) At night time I am sweating so much. It's gross.

    3.) Strength is increasing constantly. And recovery is through the roof.

    I'm going to upload some pictures in the next week. Anyways, hope all's well boys. Have a good one.

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    Alright, so quick update:
    - initial weight = 175 pounds
    - current weight (week 4) = 181.6 pounds

    - I do realize that right now the majority of the newfound 6.5 pounds is just water retention... so don't rain on my parade lol.

    I'm really happy so far. The workouts are getting better, and better. I actually have an issue though. K this morning I was trying to draw 1mL from the vial... and honestly I couldn't get it into the syringe. To elaborate, my vial only has about 3mL left in it... so it's getting low.. but I did the same procedure as always, (I draw 1mL of air into the syringe, then release that air into the sterile vial to create a vacuum, and then turn the vial upside down and load the gear)... But today it just wouldn't go into the syringe.. I waited like 10 minutes and only got 1/2 a mL. Anyways my solution was drawing 1/2 a mL with the syringe and injecting it, and then I had to get another syringe and inject the other .5mL. Can any one tell me what I was doing wrong? And how to avoid it in the future?? Because even with the 2nd syringe I was having problems drawing the gear...
    Last edited by seriousmass; 02-05-2009 at 11:47 AM.

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    Gear filtered
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    Too much negative pressure in the vial? Try adding more air to create a
    positive pressure-

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    I use a full 3cc of air when i go into the vial. i draw 1 and 3/4 in about 1 min tops./

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    Quote Originally Posted by ni4ni View Post
    Gear filtered
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    Too much negative pressure in the vial? Try adding more air to create a
    positive pressure-
    What do you mean by "gear filtered"..?

    The syringes are new... but all the other injections went extremely well. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with my prep-procedure..

    Quote Originally Posted by XD40 View Post
    I use a full 3cc of air when i go into the vial. i draw 1 and 3/4 in about 1 min tops./
    Oh really?! So maybe I should just load the syringe with like 3-4 mL of air, and then put it into the vial hey? I'm just kinda trying to wrap my head around how to get the juice out once there is like 1mL left in the vial.. I'm thinking it's going to be pretty hard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    What do you mean by "gear filtered"..?

    The syringes are new... but all the other injections went extremely well. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with my prep-procedure..



    Oh really?! So maybe I should just load the syringe with like 3-4 mL of air, and then put it into the vial hey? I'm just kinda trying to wrap my head around how to get the juice out once there is like 1mL left in the vial.. I'm thinking it's going to be pretty hard...
    i get a full 3 in the vial. yesterday i was able to get 1/2mL out of a vial for my roommate with no problem. i used a 23 gauge.

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    You are using the 18g to draw with right?

    Don't know about all your items, but if you are putting the 18g pin on the syringe and twisting it down, if you over turn it, it can get too tight and restrict the flow.

    Give us a run down on the hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey View Post
    You are using the 18g to draw with right?

    Don't know about all your items, but if you are putting the 18g pin on the syringe and twisting it down, if you over turn it, it can get too tight and restrict the flow.

    Give us a run down on the hardware.
    TM
    What's up Thunder, long time no see, how's it going? well.. I'm using a 23g 1-inch syringe to draw and shoot. I see no need in switching the needles, after initially drawing, because I am only using 1 compound, and doubt the needle would get dull from just drawing 1mL per injection.. But I do have a bunch of 18g needles.. do you think I should use em'?

    Quote Originally Posted by XD40 View Post
    i get a full 3 in the vial. yesterday i was able to get 1/2mL out of a vial for my roommate with no problem. i used a 23 gauge.
    Hmmm.. k well fvck why didn't it work for me?!? haha. Whatever.. I guess I'll just give you an update on Monday for my next injection.. I'll try pumping 3cc's into it this time. Thanks XD.

    Oh one more thing... you guys wanna hear something weird. Well at least I think it's weird. lol. I gained 1.7 pounds LAST NIGHT. I just weighed myself at the gym. The mass gains are coming really fast right now. I was not expecting this to happen until week 5 or 6 at least!! test is crazy! lol.
    Last edited by seriousmass; 02-06-2009 at 11:27 AM.

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    For me, I buy a box of 100 18g needles and a box of 1.5" 25g needles, then a box of 3ml syringes no needle. I put a 18g on and draw, then switch to 25g to inject. This makes life sooo much easier. The 18g pulls 1ml in a second.

    Give the 18g a try once see how it goes, 23g is kinda in the middle, not too big not too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey View Post
    For me, I buy a box of 100 18g needles and a box of 1.5" 25g needles, then a box of 3ml syringes no needle. I put a 18g on and draw, then switch to 25g to inject. This makes life sooo much easier. The 18g pulls 1ml in a second.

    Give the 18g a try once see how it goes, 23g is kinda in the middle, not too big not too small.

    TM
    Makes sense. Well I'll give it a shot on Monday. I've got so many 18 gauge syringes anyways.. I was trying to figure out what to do with them. lol.

    Thanks for the advice

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    Yes..this is the way to go...if your impatient....18 guage to draw out and a fresh 25 gauge to inject every time..you may lose a little juice in the 18 head along the way,,but no biggie!

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey View Post
    For me, I buy a box of 100 18g needles and a box of 1.5" 25g needles, then a box of 3ml syringes no needle. I put a 18g on and draw, then switch to 25g to inject. This makes life sooo much easier. The 18g pulls 1ml in a second.

    Give the 18g a try once see how it goes, 23g is kinda in the middle, not too big not too small.

    TM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadream View Post
    Yes..this is the way to go...if your impatient....18 guage to draw out and a fresh 25 gauge to inject every time..you may lose a little juice in the 18 head along the way,,but no biggie!
    hahahaha.

    I was wondering when you were going to find my thread..

    I don't think we've talked enough this morning hey? how's life?? hahahaha. jk

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    Very cool thread! Just got through reading it and wanted to ask you, how severe is the mood you were talking about and how hard is it to control? Also, how is the acne?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyJax View Post
    Very cool thread! Just got through reading it and wanted to ask you, how severe is the mood you were talking about and how hard is it to control? Also, how is the acne? Thanks
    Thanks man. Well the mood thing is weird. Naturally, I'm quite a friendly person.. and don't get me wrong.. I'll still friendly.. it's just on the inside, I'm like really angry all the sudden. lol. Honestly, I feel like I'm going to snap at the smallest things. But I don't necessarily act on those feelings. Hopefully that makes sense?? haha. The acne is essentially nothing. I just got a zit on my face, which was odd because I haven't in years.. but it already went away. I just started making sure I showered twice a day, and I use anti-bacterial body wash. I'm leaving for Jamaica in a week though, and by the time I get back, I'll be so dark that it won't even matter if I get acne lol.

    That reminds me! I'm leaving next Thursday... so I'm going to be changing my injection schedule a little bit, to make up for the fact that I'll be missing 2 injections, since I'm gone for 8 days.

    New Schedule:

    Feb 12th - injection 500mg prior to flight.
    Feb 16 & 19 - (miss injections.)
    Feb 21st - inject 250mg
    Feb 23rd - inject 250mg
    Feb 26th - inject 250mg

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    Heavens forbid if you miss a shot lol just take a few extra shots before you leave...you don't have to have it down to a science.

    ah ya we want pics of your girlfriend in a bikini not you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadream View Post
    Heavens forbid if you miss a shot lol just take a few extra shots before you leave...you don't have to have it down to a science.

    ah ya we want pics of your girlfriend in a bikini not you
    This is a threads purpose is to cover EVERYTHING. So that people who haven't cycled before can learn from it. So

    lol. and f*ckkk you, stop hanging around the house on friday night, prowling my thread. hahahaha

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    It's never to late to turn it into a ball busting thread

    I'm bored as well like you.

    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    This is a threads purpose is to cover EVERYTHING. So that people who haven't cycled before can learn from it. So

    lol. and f*ckkk you, stop hanging around the house on friday night, prowling my thread. hahahaha

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    Man! alright newbies. listen up, lol, this will save you SO much time.

    This morning I drew my gear with a 18 gauge needle, and then I switched it to the 23 gauge prior to the injection. The 18 gauge actually took like 15 seconds to draw out a 1mL. Moral of the story: buy both 18 gauge / 23 gauge syringes (they are so cheap anyways). It'll make your life so much easier.

    Anyways, injection went fine. I'm about to hit the gym for chest & tricep workout. I'm going to weigh myself again today... I feel like I might have gained even more weight over the weekend. -- (both sat / sun were rest days for me, and I hit an all-you-can-eat buffet on sat.. I think I ate like 3000 calories in one sitting lol.) Anyways, I'll keep you updated.

    4 days till I'm in Jamaica haha.

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    You forgot to tell them...that 23 gauge are harpoons.... 25 gauge would better in the long run for less scar tissue

    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Man! alright newbies. listen up, lol, this will save you SO much time.

    This morning I drew my gear with a 18 gauge needle, and then I switched it to the 23 gauge prior to the injection. The 18 gauge actually took like 15 seconds to draw out a 1mL. Moral of the story: buy both 18 gauge / 23 gauge syringes (they are so cheap anyways). It'll make your life so much easier.

    Anyways, injection went fine. I'm about to hit the gym for chest & tricep workout. I'm going to weigh myself again today... I feel like I might have gained even more weight over the weekend. -- (both sat / sun were rest days for me, and I hit an all-you-can-eat buffet on sat.. I think I ate like 3000 calories in one sitting lol.) Anyways, I'll keep you updated.

    4 days till I'm in Jamaica haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadream View Post
    You forgot to tell them...that 23 gauge are harpoons.... 25 gauge would better in the long run for less scar tissue
    Good point. I don't really concern myself with the issue of scar tissue though. I'm only injecting twice a week (since it's a long ester), and i'd say 90% of the time, I can not even find the mark from the last injection after 7 days has past. The glutes recover very quickly. 25 gauge would be more useful for something like prop.

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    Short ester long ester..poking with 23 gauge will add up....I used to use 23 gauge till I realized 25 gauge does the job just fine...may not going as fast...but you should never rush an injection anyways...

    18 gauge for drawing is good for amps...but you still need to be careful as the 18 gauge will push some of the rubber stopper into the 10cc vial of gear...you need to find the right angle to avoid doing so.

    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Good point. I don't really concern myself with the issue of scar tissue though. I'm only injecting twice a week (since it's a long ester), and i'd say 90% of the time, I can not even find the mark from the last injection after 7 days has past. The glutes recover very quickly. 25 gauge would be more useful for something like prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Man! alright newbies. listen up, lol, this will save you SO much time.

    This morning I drew my gear with a 18 gauge needle, and then I switched it to the 23 gauge prior to the injection. The 18 gauge actually took like 15 seconds to draw out a 1mL. Moral of the story: buy both 18 gauge / 23 gauge syringes (they are so cheap anyways). It'll make your life so much easier.

    Anyways, injection went fine. I'm about to hit the gym for chest & tricep workout. I'm going to weigh myself again today... I feel like I might have gained even more weight over the weekend. -- (both sat / sun were rest days for me, and I hit an all-you-can-eat buffet on sat.. I think I ate like 3000 calories in one sitting lol.) Anyways, I'll keep you updated.

    4 days till I'm in Jamaica haha.
    Hehe told ya so!

    Jk, glad your cycle is going good. Watch those buffets, usually garbage food. I have a motto when ever I eat a meal out, like at a restaurant. "Protein First" If I order a meal, I eat all the protein items first, then carbs/starches. Its so damn hard to get 300 grams a protein from food when your out on vacation etc.

    Anyway.. keep up the good work!
    TM

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    keep us updated...nice log thus far!

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    Looking good Serious not been here for a while lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobrazRide View Post
    keep us updated...nice log thus far!
    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey View Post
    Hehe told ya so!

    Jk, glad your cycle is going good. Watch those buffets, usually garbage food. I have a motto when ever I eat a meal out, like at a restaurant. "Protein First" If I order a meal, I eat all the protein items first, then carbs/starches. Its so damn hard to get 300 grams a protein from food when your out on vacation etc.

    Anyway.. keep up the good work!
    TM
    What can I say, you're pretty insightful there old-timer lol.

    I guess they say, with age comes wisdom, right? hahahaha jk. thanks for the advice again


    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Looking good Serious not been here for a while lol..
    What's up Matt? Thanks.

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    nice thread. interesting read, im doing 400mg week test e atm just into my 5th week now gained 7kgs so far or around 16 of your american pounds i think "??
    anyway up the calories man!!
    an whats the 25 gauge like ? i been doing 22 gauge for all my shots, wouldnt 25 take ages to draw the gear out or do you draw with a bigger needle then swap to the 25 to inject ?.... sorry just read ur using 23 now oops.
    and yes i too have the roid rage just gotta keep your cool and realise its the gear talking not yourself.

    and your gf will know your using when you want to have wild animalistic sex every time she touches you lol ! and your balls shrink and you snap at the smallest thing not to mention the weight gain.... just be honest dude im sure she will understand, just dont ever get mad at her or shell leave your huge muscly ass!

    are you still taking the creatine ? i thought this was kinda pointless, read at the start you want to keep some water weight on you ? think the test-e will do this enough by itself...

    sorry if some stuff iv posted is no longer relevant read most of the thread but might have missed something, good luck i will be keeping an eye on progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwijuice View Post
    nice thread. interesting read, im doing 400mg week test e atm just into my 5th week now gained 7kgs so far or around 16 of your american pounds i think "??
    anyway up the calories man!!
    an whats the 25 gauge like ? i been doing 22 gauge for all my shots, wouldnt 25 take ages to draw the gear out or do you draw with a bigger needle then swap to the 25 to inject ?.... sorry just read ur using 23 now oops.
    and yes i too have the roid rage just gotta keep your cool and realise its the gear talking not yourself.

    and your gf will know your using when you want to have wild animalistic sex every time she touches you lol ! and your balls shrink and you snap at the smallest thing not to mention the weight gain.... just be honest dude im sure she will understand, just dont ever get mad at her or shell leave your huge muscly ass!

    are you still taking the creatine ? i thought this was kinda pointless, read at the start you want to keep some water weight on you ? think the test-e will do this enough by itself...

    sorry if some stuff iv posted is no longer relevant read most of the thread but might have missed something, good luck i will be keeping an eye on progress.
    Thanks a lot! Yah I don't use 25g, I use 23. I've began to draw with an 18 gauge though, and yah, it's made a tremendous difference. That's great you've gained 16 pounds already! I'm just beginning week 4 and I'm up 8 pounds currently. But it feels like I'm gaining every single day, so I might catch up to you.

    I stopped taking the creatine. I was just using it because I had to wait for the test to kick in. Nevertheless, I still use it as an excuse for my GF (I tell her I'm cycling creatine with a prohormone) lol.

    I like the part about the animal sex LOL. I'm totally into beastialist...

    hahahaha. anyways, thanks for the comments. good luck with your cycle buddy!

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    I'm curious as to whom you talked to about this cycle before you did it? Any reason to start cycling now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp View Post
    I'm curious as to whom you talked to about this cycle before you did it? Any reason to start cycling now?
    Cool question.

    To be honest I didn't really talk to anyone. When I was younger I was going to cycle, I think I was about 16 at the time -- because that's when all my friends were experimenting with AAS; nevertheless, I decided to lay off and continue to grow naturally. (and I'm really glad I did). But now, I'm turn 21 in a month, and I decided that this year would be an appropriate time to try steroids.

    Now I know some people are probably reading this shaking their heads, going "seriously, if I had the chance to go back, I wouldn't have cycled until I was at least 25 + years old"... I know. And I do understand where you're coming from. But let me make this very clear, I researched AAS every single day for two months prior to jumping on my cycle, and I FULLY understand what I am doing to my body, and the long-term side effects I am imposing on myself.

    So, ultimately, I did this cycle for personal gains. I'm not trying to impress anyone, I'm not trying to get more girls or anything stupid like that, I just want to experience AAS, and see how my body reacts to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Cool question.

    To be honest I didn't really talk to anyone. When I was younger I was going to cycle, I think I was about 16 at the time -- because that's when all my friends were experimenting with AAS; nevertheless, I decided to lay off and continue to grow naturally. (and I'm really glad I did). But now, I'm turn 21 in a month, and I decided that this year would be an appropriate time to try steroids.

    Now I know some people are probably reading this shaking their heads, going "seriously, if I had the chance to go back, I wouldn't have cycled until I was at least 25 + years old"... I know. And I do understand where you're coming from. But let me make this very clear, I researched AAS every single day for two months prior to jumping on my cycle, and I FULLY understand what I am doing to my body, and the long-term side effects I am imposing on myself.

    So, ultimately, I did this cycle for personal gains. I'm not trying to impress anyone, I'm not trying to get more girls or anything stupid like that, I just want to experience AAS, and see how my body reacts to it.
    Very reasonable bro...
    Hope everything is doing fine!

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