Blood and Guts Training: Before the Prep

[manwitplans]

Awesome looking back dude, thick

[Reed]

thanks^^

Back/rear delts: Good day

reverse grip bb rows: 2 warm ups
335 x7
335 x4 down to 225 x10

Hammer Row: 2 warm ups
410 x9 +4

Hammer High lat pulldown: 2 warm ups
370 x9

Lat pulldown: 2 warm ups
230 x7 down to 170 x7

Hyperextensions: 25lb x20
45 x15
45 x15

Cables for rear delt: x10
x10

Bent over db flyes: 55 x12
75 x9

Progress is coming along nicely up about 10-12lbs since start......

[Reed]

Delts/triceps: Monster day

DB presses: warm up 35, 65, 90
110 x12 (stopped to see if I could do a PB)
130 x4 ( a first time over my head and a PB)

Front raises/incline machine press superset:
135 x10 over to 315 x10
135 x10 over 330 x8

DB side laterals: 2 warm ups
75 x7

Cable laterals: x10
x8

Db shrugs: 3 warm ups 50, 110, 140
160 x10 +5 pauses at top and static holds

BB shrugs front to back superset:
405 x10 back then x10 from front pauses static holds
Db extensions: slllllloooooow and pause at bottom to get a stretch. 3 warm ups
130 x10

Single arm db extension
50 x11

Pressdown: sloooooowww
x12
x10

[FireGuy]

You are moving some serious weight Reed. 75lbs DB laterals is impressive.

[peachfuzz]

Delts/triceps: Monster day

DB presses: warm up 35, 65, 90
110 x12 (stopped to see if I could do a PB)
130 x4 ( a first time over my head and a PB)

Front raises/incline machine press superset:
135 x10 over to 315 x10
135 x10 over 330 x8

DB side laterals: 2 warm ups
75 x7
Cable laterals: x10
x8

Db shrugs: 3 warm ups 50, 110, 140
160 x10 +5 pauses at top and static holds

BB shrugs front to back superset:
405 x10 back then x10 from front pauses static holds
Db extensions: slllllloooooow and pause at bottom to get a stretch. 3 warm ups
130 x10

Single arm db extension
50 x11

Pressdown: sloooooowww
x12
x10

[wukillabee]

Sounds like a monster day!

[Reed]

Thanks

I should video tape it. too bad its not a private forum.. Obviously not going super slow or anything with that. The forum is still pretty freaking good considering I always get my elbows to be parallel with my shoulders. None of this funky bird flapping shit.... a little swaying/momentum towards the end of the exercise but shit.... whatever....... JJ be doing that shit too

[BIG_TRUCK]

Delts/triceps: Monster day

DB presses: warm up 35, 65, 90
110 x12 (stopped to see if I could do a PB)
130 x4 ( a first time over my head and a PB)

Front raises/incline machine press superset:
135 x10 over to 315 x10
135 x10 over 330 x8

DB side laterals: 2 warm ups
75 x7

Getting stronger it seems.....

Don't you do front raises with the barbell @ 135lbs? I might start doing them.... With just the bar at first though...

[stpete]

Get freakin' down my man!!! I don't think i've EVER tried 75's on raises. 130's impressive as well. Keep it up bro!

[Reed]

I'm trying.. yep big truck its with the bb


Chest/bi: No spotter so went about things differently

30 degree Incline smith press: 3 warm ups
345 x7 down to 225 x10 down 185 x10
275 x10 down to 185 x10
* not as heavy as last week the rep scheme was different. Much slower on the negative, pause at the bottom the power back up...... I was only able to pause for a quick second w/ 345 for only 4 reps.

Wide grip machine press: 2 warm ups
270 x10
same style, slow on the way down, pause, power up

Cable crossover: 2 warmups
80 x10
100 x8
same style

30 degree incline db flyes: 45 x15
60 x10
80 x8
same...

Cable curl 1 warm up

Hammer db curls: 45 x10
60 x10
65 x7

BB curl: bar
95 x15
135 x12

Machine preacher: 135 x7 would release grip on negative part to increase resistance

Single arm curl: 80 x12
super slow with static holds

Pump was incredible. Slowing down the rep scheme and doing those pauses really torn my chest up today. I may not have been stronger but had to make do and I looked really good today. Its bodybuilding not being a ego powerlifter lifting heavy weight with my gut and no definition in my physique...... I like to keep my six pack during the offseason

[Reed]

Legs: Adopted the Mike Mentzer superslow training today to switch things up a bit..... Its g2g!! even though weights not as heavy as last week (leg press 1230 x8) I felt it fo sho.

Leg extension: 3 warm ups
240 x12 2 second up, pause/static hold, 3 second back down

Leg press: 3 warm ups
920 x10 +3 3 seconds down, pause, power up

Hack squats: 2 warm ups
370 x8 3 seconds down, pause, slow on the way back up and quad flex at top on each rep

BB front squats: 135 x20
225 x12
275 x6 Ass to the ground OF COURSE!!! Not as heavy as I have gone before but after all that above I will say I was a little pre-exhausted

Leg curl: 3 warm ups
170 x9 3 seconds up, static hold/squeezing the shit out my hams, then slow on the release

Seated curl: 2 warm ups
240 x10 same style up above. squeezing the shit out the hams

Box stiff legged deads
135 x20
185 x15
225 x8
all performed super slow on the way down to totally utilize my hams and less lower back etc. Was shakey on the last two sets and had to lay on the ground after the last set for a minute or two.... I was seeing stars

Calves: donkey, seated, one leg calf raise machine or whatever the hell its called.....

[wukillabee]

Legs: Adopted the Mike Mentzer superslow training today to switch things up a bit..... Its g2g!! even though weights not as heavy as last week (leg press 1230 x8) I felt it fo sho.

Leg extension: 3 warm ups
240 x12 2 second up, pause/static hold, 3 second back down

Leg press: 3 warm ups
920 x10 +3 3 seconds down, pause, power up

Hack squats: 2 warm ups
370 x8 3 seconds down, pause, slow on the way back up and quad flex at top on each rep

BB front squats: 135 x20
225 x12
275 x6 Ass to the ground OF COURSE!!! Not as heavy as I have gone before but after all that above I will say I was a little pre-exhausted

Leg curl: 3 warm ups
170 x9 3 seconds up, static hold/squeezing the shit out my hams, then slow on the release

Seated curl: 2 warm ups
240 x10 same style up above. squeezing the shit out the hams

Box stiff legged deads
135 x20
185 x15
225 x8
all performed super slow on the way down to totally utilize my hams and less lower back etc. Was shakey on the last two sets and had to lay on the ground after the last set for a minute or two.... I was seeing stars

Calves: donkey, seated, one leg calf raise machine or whatever the hell its called.....

Killin it!

[Reed]

Back/Rear delts: Good day. Switched it up a bit

Reverse grip BB row: 3 warm ups 135 225 275
345 x6 down to 225 x10

Hammer Rows: 2 warm ups 180 360
450 x6 +2 forced reps

Db rows: 120 x15
160 x15

Lat pulldwons: 140 x10
200 x10

Wide grip pullups: bodweight x15
35lb plate x10

crossover rear delt cables:
x10
x10
x8

Bent over laterals: 45 x12
75 x10

[Reed]

Shoulders/Tris: Was flat today. Not a big deal sometimes it happens especially working 50+ hrs a week.... All I can do is reevaluate what went wrong.... Sleep 10 hrs without a meal in between and just had breakfast before the workout....

Also I feel as though my triceps are behind especially when I hit a front double bi. I go by the mirror not the scale.... So I putting them first as my delts are my strongest body part.... I know the "rule" is bigger parts first but rules are meant to be broken plus I think I'll be ok

V bar pushdowns warm ups

Straight bar: 2 warm ups
x10

Single arm db extension: 2 warm ups
55 x9

Overhead db extension: 2 warm ups
140 x6

Reverse grip smith bench: 2 warm ups
315 x10

Db laterals: 2 warm ups
70 x10

Incline machine press: 3 warm ups
330 +45lb plate x7

Db shurgs: 2 warm ups
160 x12

Superset front/back shrugs: 2 warmups
405 x10 each side

[wukillabee]

Shoulders/Tris: Was flat today. Not a big deal sometimes it happens especially working 50+ hrs a week.... All I can do is reevaluate what went wrong.... Sleep 10 hrs without a meal in between and just had breakfast before the workout....

Also I feel as though my triceps are behind especially when I hit a front double bi. I go by the mirror not the scale.... So I putting them first as my delts are my strongest body part.... I know the "rule" is bigger parts first but rules are meant to be broken plus I think I'll be ok

V bar pushdowns warm ups

Straight bar: 2 warm ups
x10

Single arm db extension: 2 warm ups
55 x9

Overhead db extension: 2 warm ups
140 x6

Reverse grip smith bench: 2 warm ups
315 x10

Db laterals: 2 warm ups
70 x10

Incline machine press: 3 warm ups
330 +45lb plate x7

Db shurgs: 2 warm ups
160 x12

Superset front/back shrugs: 2 warmups
405 x10 each side

Good idea. Always best to do the lagging bodypart first no matter how small of a muscle it is.

[Reed]

Chest/biceps: Killer day

30 degree Incline dbs: 3 warm ups (45, 75, 100)
130 x9 was able to man handle these with slow control on the negative portion a slight pause at the bottom and a power up...
150 x5 fluid motion the whole way through nothing special other than doing the reps

30 degree incline db flyes: 2 warm ups 45, 70
95 x8

Wide grip press machine: 2 warm ups 180, 270
360 x7

Cable crossovers
x10
x10
x7

Preacher curl machine: 2 warm ups
145 x7

BB curl: 95 x10

DB hammer curl: 2 warm ups
65 x7 down to 35 x8

DB preacher curl: 55 x6
negatives 75 x4

Feeling pretty good about my PB's.... Was shocked how I handled the 130s and could do reps with them that would make even Dorian proud

[stpete]

wukillabee was right. you're killing it. keep up the good work bro.

[xnotoriousx]

We got to have somebody to look up to I guess

Superb log.

[Reed]

wukillabee was right. you're killing it. keep up the good work bro.

We got to have somebody to look up to I guess

Superb log.

Thanks homies!

[Reed]

Quad/Hams: Good day... exhausted..... Some heavy breathing last two days. can't decide if I got allergies or its all the extra weight I have on me now.. And my chest is still pumped from last night....

Leg extensions: 3 warm ups
230 x15

Power Squat Machine: 3 warm ups 180, 360, 560
630 x10

BB squats: 135 x10
225 x10
315 x6
365 x6
405 x2

BB lunges: 95lbs 15 steps per leg
115 x12 steps per leg
135 x10 steps per leg

Leg curl: 2 warm ups
180 x10

BB box SLDL: 135 x20
205 x14
235 x8

Seated Leg curls: 2 warm ups
225 x12

Still performing everything as usual... Saving calves for tomorrow to insure there proper beat down

[audis4]

405 x 2 on squats? I'm assuming you can do a lot more.....but you did other workouts prior? if so why?

[Reed]

405 x 2 on squats? I'm assuming you can do a lot more.....but you did other workouts prior? if so why?

For me the power squat machine targets and isolates my quads a lot more than regular squats....

Going deep with my squats pausing and finishing the move

[audis4]

For me the power squat machine targets and isolates my quads a lot more than regular squats....

Going deep with my squats pausing and finishing the move

hmm I don't know what that is but whatever works for you

[Reed]

hmm I don't know what that is but whatever works for you

Don't know what isolating the quads are.... thats interesting on your part.... Read up on what exercises do what....

[audis4]

Don't know what isolating the quads are.... thats interesting on your part.... Read up on what exercises do what....

ya i know how to isolate the quads....sorry if i sounded short earlier i was in a shitty mood.

ya, I squatted 545 for 3 two nights ago. I'll look up that squat that you did....not sure if my gym has it or not. Good work so far bro

[Reed]

ya i know how to isolate the quads....sorry if i sounded short earlier i was in a shitty mood.

ya, I squatted 545 for 3 two nights ago. I'll look up that squat that you did....not sure if my gym has it or not. Good work so far bro

When I start on squats I have got 455 x4 that has been my best but that was before I even started that first bulker in October. My legs were exhausted after the leg extensions and power squat machine.... You gotta remember how I'm doing these exercises.. I go 3 seconds up on the leg extensions, pause for a second, then slowly back down.... none of that jerking around.... same with my squats... I go slowly down, pause and power it back up.... I'm looking for muscle growth not winning a powerlifting meet..

I'm not looking to squat a whole bunch of weight either... I'm not Ronnie Coleman nor will I ever be... I have begun to take notice how thick my waist becomes from heavy deadlifts and squats... this is for me personally and my goals for the bodybuilding stage... currently about 32 inches on the waist offseason w/ a full six pack.... Seems the current trend on stage is getting away from the mass monsters with huge waists, big blockiness, huge joints, etc.... Luckily I don't have any of that... small waist, joints, V-taper.... I want to keep it that way....

I want my quads to look like they squat a bunch of weight.... ever watch any current pros squat... Watched Evan Centopani get up 495 for 8-10 reps at 310 5'11'' here like a few months ago then Mark Dugdale I think was "only" up to 315-405 in a Week in the Dungeon video..... I saw this one 23 year old kid says he trains for bodybuilding on MD post his 800lb squat... yeah it was really really nice, he almost hit parallel, but his gut was hanging out WAY past his chest.... Thats not going to look to pleasing standing on the stage IMO

I don't know if you plan to hit the stage but those are my goals and I know heavier weight equals bigger muscles and I use this log to help along with that and for references... no point in posting weights I didn't do...

[ghettoboyd]

i hear what u are saying bro, i too opt for controlled movments with strict form most of the time as well. i havent maxed out in years. i really concentrate on getting that mind muscle connection that seems to help me feel it more and gets results.....one a side note why anyone would come on your thread and try to get in a pissing contest with you is beyond me..........rock on!

[wukillabee]

When I start on squats I have got 455 x4 that has been my best but that was before I even started that first bulker in October. My legs were exhausted after the leg extensions and power squat machine.... You gotta remember how I'm doing these exercises.. I go 3 seconds up on the leg extensions, pause for a second, then slowly back down.... none of that jerking around.... same with my squats... I go slowly down, pause and power it back up.... I'm looking for muscle growth not winning a powerlifting meet..

I'm not looking to squat a whole bunch of weight either... I'm not Ronnie Coleman nor will I ever be... I have begun to take notice how thick my waist becomes from heavy deadlifts and squats... this is for me personally and my goals for the bodybuilding stage... currently about 32 inches on the waist offseason w/ a full six pack.... Seems the current trend on stage is getting away from the mass monsters with huge waists, big blockiness, huge joints, etc.... Luckily I don't have any of that... small waist, joints, V-taper.... I want to keep it that way....

I want my quads to look like they squat a bunch of weight.... ever watch any current pros squat... Watched Evan Centopani get up 495 for 8-10 reps at 310 5'11'' here like a few months ago then Mark Dugdale I think was "only" up to 315-405 in a Week in the Dungeon video..... I saw this one 23 year old kid says he trains for bodybuilding on MD post his 800lb squat... yeah it was really really nice, he almost hit parallel, but his gut was hanging out WAY past his chest.... Thats not going to look to pleasing standing on the stage IMO

I don't know if you plan to hit the stage but those are my goals and I know heavier weight equals bigger muscles and I use this log to help along with that and for references... no point in posting weights I didn't do...

Thats the only way to train as a bodybuilder imo! I thought we all trained this way? I know thats how i train legs, so much more effective slow and pausing especially on the static. Ive done leg extensions just up and down and dont feel much, when i do em like your saying u kill the quads! Nothing like killing your hams and quads then start working out legs. Sure you'll press and squat a lot less weight but you'll be killing the muscles so much more, isn't that what your suppose to do for best muscle growth?

Funny shit, i saw this chick just an average chick on the squat rack with 225lbs. Im like, i gotta see this cus she was just an average build chick. Sure enough, she gets it on her back, goes down 1 maybe 2 inches for 2-3 reps then racks it. What the **** did that do for her? Theres some crazy people in the gym let me tell you bro, CRAZY! Guess thats why they think all our muscles are fake cus we're twice their size and lifting half what they do, haha!

[Reed]

It does seem like a pissing match doesn't it?? Last two times audis came in here to comment it was about how light my weights are and how much more he does......

I wish he'd post a pic........ Numbers are cool on paper but so many times on here when I have compared the physique to the stats its no where near how big and great you'd think it was

This peeps squatting 800 or 545 is cool... Very good and congratulations to them.... Foot stance has A LOT to do with how much you are going to squat.... Mine is only shoulder width not sumo/powerlifter.... I also find it very funny that even with the heavy weight their quad and leg development is no where near a professional level... ie Evan Centopani just sticking to 495 for 8-10 reps in his workout or I bet the kid that i watched squat 800 has leg development no where close to Ronnie who did the same thing...... I continue to watch all kinds of pros that squat and don't do 500+ lbs but yet have insane leg development for the stage....

In bodybuilding don't let the numbers do the talking....
let your physique do the talking.....

[BIG_TRUCK]

audis4, I remember you from a few years back.

Chubby 240lbs with no muscle & shoulders as wide as your waist.... Claiming you DB bench 140's for reps and other crazy numbers. Which your physique no where near showed the capability to do so.

Maybe if you gained 40lbs of muscle in the past 2-3 years I could see you lifting what you claim on here.....

But I highly doubt your physique has changed much, just your lies have got bigger.

Here's the thread from 2006.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ghlight=audis4

I think post 6 and 13 nail it on the head

[Reed]

Back/rear delts: Internet was down but here is yesterday... Really loving how much control I have over the weight I hold... me happy

BB rows (not reverse grip)
135, 225, 275
315 x7

Wide grip pullups (doing the pause hanging thing with each rep to really stretch out)
x15
x10 +25lb plate
x8 +35lb plate

Db rows: 140 x15
160 x15

Long bar reverse grip cable rows: 2 warm ups
240 x8

Hyper extensions: FULL stretch, slow too
45plate x15
45plate x12

Rear delt machine: 2 warm ups
165 x8 down to 60 for extra slow 8 reps with static holds (this BURNED)

Bent over rear laterals: 55 x12
55 x10
dropping this weight down to go slower hit a good pause etc....

[Reed]

audis4, I remember you from a few years back.

Chubby 240lbs with no muscle & shoulders as wide as your waist.... Claiming you DB bench 140's for reps and other crazy numbers. Which your physique no where near showed the capability to do so.

Maybe if you gained 40lbs of muscle in the past 2-3 years I could see you lifting what you claim on here.....

But I highly doubt your physique has changed much, just your lies have got bigger.

Here's the thread from 2006.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ghlight=audis4

I think post 6 and 13 nail it on the head

Whipping heads as usual Big Truck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqxo...eature=related

you mean this thread: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ghlight=audis4

[BIG_TRUCK]

Whipping heads as usual Big Truck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqxo...eature=related

you mean this thread: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ghlight=audis4

[wukillabee]

Whipping heads as usual Big Truck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqxo...eature=related

you mean this thread: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ghlight=audis4

Haha! Haven't heard that song since the film. Posts 12 and 13 say it pretty much as well in his thread. Nuff flaming, get your workouts on son!

[audis4]

audis4, I remember you from a few years back.

Chubby 240lbs with no muscle & shoulders as wide as your waist.... Claiming you DB bench 140's for reps and other crazy numbers. Which your physique no where near showed the capability to do so.

Maybe if you gained 40lbs of muscle in the past 2-3 years I could see you lifting what you claim on here.....

But I highly doubt your physique has changed much, just your lies have got bigger.

Here's the thread from 2006.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ghlight=audis4

I think post 6 and 13 nail it on the head

**** both you guys....I have a comp this saturday and I'll post my video on youtbube

[Reed]

**** both you guys....I have a comp this saturday and I'll post my video on youtbube

Chill

Ain't nobody interested in you sumo squatting 5 and 600lbs.

Can't expect to come in people's logs throwing out your heavy numbers and getting into a pissing contest with people about how much better i do this and that without getting poked at....

you did it in this log, my last log, and Morph's last log... touting around how big and bad you were........

don't get mad cause your thread is what is and explains some things....

if you can do all these great numbers and stuff then great.... but your not bodybuilding so quit degrading people about how much more you lift.... i don't care... not everyone has your same goals..... you want to show people how much you lift then start your own log and we'll watch......

now go win your comp......

[Reed]

internet has been spotty....

sorry for the lack of updates

its back together

switching things up....

recovery is throught the roof and I have been doing this HIT for for a while now and its time for me to switch things up

will update the new routine shortly

don't feel i have put on fat since the beginning. following the diet to the T....

maybe like a cheat meal 2 or 3 times a week of either a hamburger, sushi, fried chicken or something of that nature... no sweet tooth whatsoever


the tren is amazing and the stuff if does to me...

haven't had ANY unexpected problems... ance, insomnia, and night sweats on the occasion for some odd reason

new sneak peak pic.... will get better pics soon... wanna grow a little more as i haven't thrown in the drol yet

[wukillabee]

internet has been spotty....

sorry for the lack of updates

its back together

switching things up....

recovery is throught the roof and I have been doing this HIT for for a while now and its time for me to switch things up

will update the new routine shortly

don't feel i have put on fat since the beginning. following the diet to the T....

maybe like a cheat meal 2 or 3 times a week of either a hamburger, sushi, fried chicken or something of that nature... no sweet tooth whatsoever


the tren is amazing and the stuff if does to me...

haven't had ANY unexpected problems... ance, insomnia, and night sweats on the occasion for some odd reason

new sneak peak pic.... will get better pics soon... wanna grow a little more as i haven't thrown in the drol yet

Damn bro, lookin way ill! Im lovin how i recup fast too, can kill a workout and not even feel sore the next day. Crazy how good aas is. Tren has really changed ur physique compared to before bro, like night and day! Glad to hear tren isnt giving u many sides either.

[thetank]

internet has been spotty....

sorry for the lack of updates

its back together

switching things up....

recovery is throught the roof and I have been doing this HIT for for a while now and its time for me to switch things up

will update the new routine shortly

don't feel i have put on fat since the beginning. following the diet to the T....

maybe like a cheat meal 2 or 3 times a week of either a hamburger, sushi, fried chicken or something of that nature... no sweet tooth whatsoever


the tren is amazing and the stuff if does to me...

haven't had ANY unexpected problems... ance, insomnia, and night sweats on the occasion for some odd reason

new sneak peak pic.... will get better pics soon... wanna grow a little more as i haven't thrown in the drol yet

damn son!! gettin freaky man. thats on a level that disturbs some women and children. nice.

[xnotoriousx]

Your arm is nasty man, good work. Keep on pushin.