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    Quote Originally Posted by tembe View Post
    hahaha yeh

    ive lost bout a kg or so. Look alot leaner.

    Good luck
    good to hear, hope u get what u wanted

    anyways today was another long day

    got to the gym at 7:30

    trained shoulders, triceps

    bodyweight 95.5kg, down again but nto fussed since strength is still their

    workout
    1 set dumbell military press
    1 set behind the neck press
    1 set straight bar skull crushers
    2 sets dumbell hammer grip skull crushers
    2 sets machine lateral raises

    strength losses
    skull crushers down 4 reps, 70kg 4 reps
    dumbell hammer grip skull crushers down 4 reps

    strength gains
    behind neck press 92kg 10 reps

    all other lifts were same

    happy with that so far, weights dropping but strength is staying moderately their

    i can definetaly notice the loss of aggression in the gym, and i miss it so bad

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    PCT progress

    PROGRESS 1 week through PCT

    today trained middle back, glutes, lowerback, hamstrings

    all lifts were same except seated leg curl down 5 reps

    workout was as follows
    2 sets dumbell rows
    1 set machine lateral rows
    2 sets good mornings
    1 set seated leg curl

    i defenetaly felt human today, my legs are sore from last leg workout so think i might need to reduce the volume, 5 sets for legs was prob to much on PCT
    also ive noticed the loss of aggression well now

    today when i was dumbell rowing 67.5kg i noticed how i had lost alot of my aggresssion and focus when i row hard, definetaly missing the anger

    ive started becoming moody also, i fell lethargic and having mood swings, im going from feeling tiered to feeling like i am nobody and my life sucks

    and i dont know why, coz i keep telling myself what are u thinking, but i just feel down

    owell ive just been telling myself 'its the estrogen and lack of gear, man the fucck up'

    heres a summary so far

    week 14
    bodyweight 101.2kg, down .8kg

    decline bench press: 125kg, 10 reps
    good mornings: 132kg, 10 reps
    machine lateral raises 120kg, 12 rep
    machine squat =185kg, 6 reps
    sqaut: 152kg 10 reps, stopped squat since legs are before my deadlift day
    45 degree leg press: 760kg, 6 reps
    barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
    lat rows(fixed pull down): 150kg, 11 reps
    barbell shrugs: 167kg, 13 reps
    deadlift: 195kg, 12 reps
    leg extensions: 131, 10 reps
    dumbell rows each arm: 65kg, 10 reps
    calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 470kg, 15 reps
    leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
    dips, 10reps 36kg added
    close grip bench press: 105kg, 8 reps
    seated leg curl: 131, 13 reps
    stiff leg deadlift 185kg, 10 reps
    reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
    barbell curl: 55kg, 10 reps
    dumbell lateral row 38kg, 10 reps
    dumbell press: 62kg, 6 reps
    dumbell shoulder press: 46kg, 8 reps
    machine lateral row 109kg, 10 reps
    skull crushers 65kg, 10 reps

    week 16 (current)
    bodyweight 95.2kg, down 5.1kg since 2 weeks ago

    decline bench press: 115kg, 10 reps
    good mornings: 130kg, 10 reps
    machine lateral raises 122kg, 12 rep
    machine squat =215kg, 8 reps
    sqaut: 152kg 10 reps, stopped squat since legs are before my deadlift day
    45 degree leg press: 760kg, 6 reps
    barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
    lat rows(fixed pull down): 155kg, 11 reps
    barbell shrugs: 165kg, 13 reps
    deadlift: 230kg, 8 reps
    leg extensions: 137, 10 reps
    dumbell rows each arm: 67.5kg, 10 reps
    calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 460kg, 15 reps
    leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
    dips, 10reps 36kg added
    close grip bench press: 105kg, 8 reps
    seated leg curl: 137, 9 reps
    stiff leg deadlift 195kg, 10 reps
    reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
    barbell curl: 55kg, 10 reps
    dumbell lateral row 38kg, 10 reps
    dumbell press: 57.5kg, 9 reps
    dumbell shoulder press: 46kg, 6 reps
    machine lateral row 105kg, 10 reps
    skull crushers 65kg, 10 reps

    strength losses
    strength gains

    im pretty happy witht hat considering ive lost ALOT of weight in past 2 weeks, but maintained most my strength

    the strength gains are bit missleading since i gained most that strength in week 15, not week 16 which is when i stated PCT

    im still very pleased with that evn though ive lost alot of weight, becuase i feel my lifts ratio are better now that im lighter

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    okay today was a crappy day

    bodyweight 94.8kg

    workout biceps/calves/ abs

    workout
    2 sets alternating curls
    1 set barbell curls
    2 sets calve raises using 45 degree leg press
    superset 40 crunches/40 hanging leg raises/40 double crunches/40 crunches with legs raised

    strength losses
    bicep curls down to 25kg 8 reps
    calves were same thank god

    i dunno why but i feel like im gettin fatter even though my bodyweight is decreasing, maybe psycological or i am getting fatter


    as for size i feel i have lost size in my biceps, tricep ive lost a little but nothing worth worry about, everything other muscle group seems about the same

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    okay today was a GOOD day

    i had a good workout so now im in a better mood, last few days i have been very moody since my workouts havent been the best

    bodyweight 94.3kg, down again but not fussed since strength is up

    trained chest

    workout
    1 set dumbell press
    1 set incline dumbell press
    1 set dumbell press
    2 sets decline bench press

    strength gains
    dumbell press same
    incline dumbell press 50kg 9 reps
    decline bench back up to 125kg like it was previously

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    Good to see you're fighting it off
    Would you describe the moodiness as a sign of lowered test-level, or simply the psychological factor from the workouts being "incomplete"? Btw, you have got to upload some pictures soon haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashp View Post
    Good to see you're fighting it off
    Would you describe the moodiness as a sign of lowered test-level, or simply the psychological factor from the workouts being "incomplete"? Btw, you have got to upload some pictures soon haha.
    id say the mood swings are a combination of both

    i wake up and i usally work out at 6 or 7pm now, just becuase my uni schedule is pretty heavy now, and exams are coming up so ive been studying and doing assigments like a crazy cuunt at university

    but the mood swings arent normal, i am really touchy atm and get ticked off easily, by far my misses, mother and father tick me off the most atm since der always the people giving advice or nagging, and in the mood im in now i just dont wanna hear it

    and then by end of the day when u go workout and ur workout aint the best ur mood just gets worse

    also on test i felt alot more aggresive and adrenalined,
    i use to walk past my mirror in my bathroom and just roar at it and tense up, and imagine blasting the gym all excited lol

    dont do that anymore lol

    but to describe my mood overall it be im very touchy, i get ticked off easier but i am able to control it by telling myself 'ur on ur rags like a women', im no wear near as energetic and aggresive, very relaxed, and for the first time in like 14 weeks i actually felt stressed last night lol, (never felt slightly stressed on my cycle), also since my sex drive is practically non existant anymore im more friendly towards women then rather sexual lol

    pics im going to post prob wednesday (2 days since i can get a camera then, and all my water weight i beleiev has come off now)

    anyways today i trained lats, traps

    i forgot to take my Nolvadex this morning so i was oding when i got to uni, and had to take it when i got back which was 8oclock

    bodyweight 95kg, so im back up

    workout
    1 set fixed pull down
    2 sets pull ups
    2 sets barbell shrugs

    strength gains yess!!!!!!!!!!!1
    fixed pull down same
    weighted pull ups 10 reps, 17kg added
    barbell shrugs back up to 165kg 12 reps

    happy with todays results, not looking forward to leg day 2morow

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    Thanks for the clarification, that was a nice post. I guess the attitude granted by the roids will affect you, once it's gone. Like having one's manhood spiked and peaking for 8-10 weeks, and then having it all taken away. Just be careful not jumping head first into another cycle, I think that's one of the danger-zones; you'll be back to normal soon enough

    Nice to see some gains in strength, definately satisfying, huh? Looking forward to seeing the progress-pictures, I really think you've done your homework well .. you're a proper beast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashp View Post
    Thanks for the clarification, that was a nice post. I guess the attitude granted by the roids will affect you, once it's gone. Like having one's manhood spiked and peaking for 8-10 weeks, and then having it all taken away. Just be careful not jumping head first into another cycle, I think that's one of the danger-zones; you'll be back to normal soon enough

    Nice to see some gains in strength, definately satisfying, huh? Looking forward to seeing the progress-pictures, I really think you've done your homework well .. you're a proper beast!
    lol yea thats exactly it, u go from being an alpha male with 10 times the normal test levels to a women on her period full of estrogen lol

    lol yea ive already stashed up for my next cycle lol, think ill run it in about 2-3 months time, first i wanna c how long i can hold onto these gains and how much of them

    i loveeeeee being strong lol, i hate seeing really big boys who are lifting what little girls do, though their goal may be size, i think that if ur going to look big u might aswell have some strength atleast

    ill take pics 2morow most likely since i have only a short day at uni

    anyways 2dai i trained quads

    bodyweight 94.4kg

    workout
    2 sets machine squat
    2 set leg extensions

    strength losses
    leg extensions down 2 reps
    squat machine down 2 reps

    ^^^^^ that really doesnt fuss me since after my last leg workout i was really sore and i was expecting that i had overtrained a little, thats why i dropped my sets this week to c if it helps with recovery or alllows me to maintain strength better

    my back and traps are really sore from yesterdays workout and didnt help squating 215kg today with it on my neck, owell

    lats feel a sore from yesterday, aswell as my calves still

    as for my size, ive noticed some losses in arm size definetaly, biceps have definetaly lost some size and alot of strength which hasnt suprised me since they have always been my weak muscle group, t
    riceps a little size lost and strength,
    chest looks bigger then ever lol and strength is down a little
    , back seems to be exact same, traps same,
    shoulders maybe a little loss in size but strength is still their fully

    my legs have lost HEAPS of size, strength is down a few reps, but the reason i think ive lost size in my legs is becuase of the water weight, i noticed the size loss in legs the other day when i did seated leg curls and i had to adjust the machine so the bracket was at the lowest point to lock my legs in, (the bracket use to be at the highest point to lock my legs in)
    id confidently say easy 3 inch loss in leg size, its really quite amazing,

    calves are about the same still

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    Great log

    Congrats on your gains mate. you've kept on the better part of 10kgs which in my book is top notch. Post some new pics... Congrats again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne55 View Post
    Congrats on your gains mate. you've kept on the better part of 10kgs which in my book is top notch. Post some new pics... Congrats again
    thanks mate, pretty happy with my weight gains now , strength gains have by far been the most impressive since ive always loves being strong and lifting the biggest dumbells in the gym lol

    ive taken PICS finally!!!!!, given them to my misses so she can upload them to her comp and email them to me, should get them 2nite or 2morw night, will upload them soon as i get them,

    anyways today i trained triceps, shoulders

    bodyweight 94.5kg so my bodyweight has finally stabalised i think, floating between 94-95kgs atm

    workout
    1 set dumbell press
    1 set behind the neck press
    1 set hammer grip dumbell skull crushers
    2 sets straight bar skull crushers
    2 sets machine lateral raises

    strength gains
    behind neck press 95kg 10 reps, up 2.5kg

    all other lifts were same which is fine with me

    i dont know if its psycolgical or really happening but it apppears that im getting fatter, but my bodyweight isnt increasing.........., so i dont know wtf is going on their?

    however i feel leaner around waist line since my hips stick out more and i can feel my lower abdominal more, so really confused on wtf is happening their

    been taking my 40mg nolvadex daily, i start lowering it on friday
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    That's a really nice result for a cycle; aprox. 8-9 kgs of mass, right?
    What makes you think you're fatter? Is the skinfolds getting thicker or what? If I were you I'd try and get a skinfold-test (google it) or try getting a body-scan at your gym, with one of those semi-precise machines, just to get an estimate and an overview of the situation - so you know what's up, the mere thought of getting fatter could end up psyching you out ^^

    Nice to see the weight has stabilized.

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    whats happening man?

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    Pct finished

    hey guys soz been gone awhile

    have exams for university atm so been studying pretty hard and havent had much time to do anything, got my first exam in 2 days, and i have 4 exams in geez the next 5 days, talk about a bad time table

    anyways i finished my 4 weeks of PCT yesterday

    sex drive is almost back to normal, testies are back to full size

    bodyweight is 93.8kg

    bf% is between 11-12, i have definetaly gained some fat while being on PCT

    this is comparesent of my last 2 weeks

    height 5'11

    week 16 (2 weeks ago, half way through PCT)
    bodyweight 95.2kg, down 5.1kg since start PCT

    decline bench press: 115kg, 10 reps
    good mornings: 130kg, 10 reps
    machine lateral raises 122kg, 12 rep
    machine squat =215kg, 8 reps
    sqaut: 152kg 10 reps, stopped squat since legs are before my deadlift day
    45 degree leg press: 760kg, 6 reps
    barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
    lat rows(fixed pull down): 155kg, 11 reps
    barbell shrugs: 165kg, 13 reps
    deadlift: 230kg, 8 reps
    leg extensions: 137, 10 reps
    dumbell rows each arm: 67.5kg, 10 reps
    calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 460kg, 15 reps
    leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
    dips, 10reps 36kg added
    close grip bench press: 105kg, 8 reps
    seated leg curl: 137, 9 reps
    stiff leg deadlift 195kg, 10 reps
    reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
    incline dumbell press 48kg, 6 reps
    barbell curl: 55kg, 10 reps
    dumbell lateral row 38kg, 10 reps
    dumbell press: 57.5kg, 9 reps
    dumbell shoulder press: 46kg, 6 reps
    machine lateral row 105kg, 10 reps
    skull crushers 65kg, 10 reps

    end of week 18 and PCT (current)
    bodyweight 93.8kg

    decline bench press: 130kg, 6 reps
    good mornings: 130kg, 10 reps
    machine lateral raises 125kg, 12 rep<-machine maxed out
    machine squat =215kg, 6 reps
    sqaut: 180kg 10 reps
    45 degree leg press: 760kg, 6 reps
    barbell shoulder press infront: 80kg 10reps
    lat rows(fixed pull down): 155kg, 6 reps
    barbell shrugs: 172kg, 13 reps
    deadlift: 230kg, 8 reps
    leg extensions: 137, 11 reps<-machine maxed out
    dumbell rows each arm: 67.5kg, 8 reps
    calve raise using 45 degree leg press: 450kg, 15 reps
    leg curls 96kg 20 reps, gym doesnt go heavier
    dips, 10reps 36kg added < havent done these in ages so dunno where i really am at
    close grip bench press: 115kg, 8 reps
    seated leg curl: 137, 11 reps< machine maxed out
    stiff leg deadlift 195kg, 10 reps
    incline dumbell press 52kg, 8 reps
    reverse grip curl 40kg, 11 reps
    barbell curl: 60kg, 6 reps
    dumbell press: 55kg, 9 reps
    dumbell shoulder press: 46kg, 5 reps
    machine lateral row 105kg, 6 reps
    skull crushers 65kg, 8 reps

    strength gains
    strength losses

    and here are the pics of course, sorry if u think their dodgy im not the best camera man i must admit

    its been fun cycling enjoy
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    congrats on first cycle well done, looks good.
    good luck with the exams

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    Been looking forward to the update, good work man looks like your muscle quality improved everywhere nice job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaktar View Post
    congrats on first cycle well done, looks good.
    good luck with the exams
    thanks mate, but i dont need luck, im pretty confident lol

    Quote Originally Posted by xnotoriousx View Post
    Been looking forward to the update, good work man looks like your muscle quality improved everywhere nice job.
    i know u have lol, np mate best luck with ur PCT

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    hehe sorry if I was like a broke record it just kills me how so many people post up these progress threads with no pics. Makes reading the logs pointless in my opinion if you don't get to see the results.... Any one can type results ya know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xnotoriousx View Post
    hehe sorry if I was like a broke record it just kills me how so many people post up these progress threads with no pics. Makes reading the logs pointless in my opinion if you don't get to see the results.... Any one can type results ya know?
    lol naa yea understands, im exact same, wanna c photos since anyone can just type numbers

    plus seeing people tranform is always better

    ive just been lazy with fotos,

    my next cycle ill post up before fotos before i start my cycle

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    okay ive finished my PCT, and now almost 2 weeks after ending PCT,

    had blood work done, thanks to my health care system docs and test were free aswell as consultation

    told my doc i had run a course of anabolic steroids and to check everything he could, see how i had recovered

    what i was interested in
    test levels are sitting in above mean range
    estrogen levels normal
    bad cholestrol below average range
    good cholestrol average rane
    blood pressure below normal range (i was born with natural low blood pressure so no biggie)
    white blood cell count was just below average (a good thing becuase ive always had really low white blood cell count, doc once got me checked for leacemia coz he thought i couldve had it lol)
    red blood cell count normal
    sugar levels healthy range
    sodium levels were way below average, reccomended i increase my salt intake, aparently itll help raise my blood pressure to normal range


    since blood tests have come out good, ive decided to go against time on equals time off

    yes i know alot of people are against it but please no one try pursuade me against it, already made up my mind

    university exams are almost over, going to be working in acccounting firm 3 days a week part time during my 3 month holidays since it wil help me once i get my double degree, its summer and i see it as the perfect time to dedicate myself to my cycle effectivaly without it getting in the way of my studys

    goals of this cycle will be both strength and size

    cycle will consist of
    testerone cyp 400mg weeks 1-10
    trenbelone eth 400mg weeks 1-10

    both esters are being front loaded on day 1, 400mg test, 400 test

    will be doing so in a week n half when exams are over

    will post later on further details

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    From Beginning to end, great progress!

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    thanks mate, appreciate it

    will be beging my next cycle on next week, november 18th

    shall c how that goes

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    hey dude, noticing u do very few sets when w/o. ever tried more or does it work for you?

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    hey mate, yes i know i train with lower sets but it works for me

    ive seen alot fo people train with high volume but either on or off gear neither works for me

    however i will say i do increase my volume on gear, but not greatly

    e.g off cycle now i do 2 sets for traps
    on cycle i did 3 sets

    or chest off cycle i do 5-6 sets

    on cycle i did 7-8 sets

    or for biceps i off cycle i do 4 sets

    on cycle i did 6 sets

    i tried increaseing my volume further on cycle but i found my gains slowed greatly

    im a big believer that it quality not quantity, and thats always worked for me

    high volume e.g 9 sets for any bodypart, has NEVER worked for me

    lower volume ive always gained good amounts of size, with good amounts of strength

    my next cycle i might increase my volume a little more since ill have more AAS in me to help recover, but we shall c

    ill be posting up more pics in a week before my next cyclle

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