what weight class are you fighting ate. What are your stats now? Are you being tested?Originally Posted by 505fighter
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what weight class are you fighting ate. What are your stats now? Are you being tested?
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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i would say winstrol or anavar
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var in my experiences is not good. The pumps get to be too much and limit you
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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I agree with gixxer about the var. you can take a lower dose but then you will not notice anything. winn can be good if you do not get joint pains from it.
you should run test along side winn
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I played in a bball league once a week and I had to stop when I started taking var. Everything got so tight
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Whenever i use win i get cramps on my calves and my lower back
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Completely agree with that, I would stay away from Winny, brother was on the end of a Prop/NPP/Var cycle, threw in some winny and messed up his knees and shoulders big time.
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I like this thread ty for the info im a boxer and im a virgin gear user but im gathering information before I attempt a cycle as a noob. To gear but veteran of the boxing ring id avoid Winny from what I've read I am gonna make boxing my career don't need a injury from dry joints boxing does a number on your connective tissue and tendons Winny is a no no
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Hello, I'm a BJJ competitor that is 35. I'm thinking about trying a cycle however, after reading a lot of comments I'm not sure if it would be better to just try using HGH to help over all, or to try a combination of things. Although I have decided there is to much risk with EPO. Is there something you guys recommend more to help with endurance? I have also looked online for gear. Is there a site you recommend over others? thanks for your help!!
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Fire please read the rules. There is no discussion of sites, our sources to buy gear on here.
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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You actually loose bf with tren or winny??? Or more then you would from any other steroid??I've never really noticed a direct impact on my bf % with relation to specific aas.
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I'm considering using Anavar, and HGH. Does anyone have any suggestions on how the cycle should be used? I'm would like to add a little size but mostly increase endurance and lose bodyfat easier. Thanks for the help
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Cut the anavar. It will kill your combat training. HGH will suit you well. As will Equitest, and GW50156.
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pathetic fighters who suck need to use them. Combat sports are dangerous enough without the use of steroids. I don't care how much you use, there is no replacement for technique, hard work, and to never stop trying to improve.
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Lol.... Your on steroid.com bro
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i'm on it and I love boxing, but i'm not in a ring, and i'm not taking steroids. I'm on here because i'm 34 and it's a good resource for more than just steroids. I have more morals to get into a ring if I were using though. I know A LOT of fighters and other sports figures use it, but like I said... a combat sport is dangerous enough without adding more to it. It's a bitch move IMO.... sorry, but a lot of fighters have gotten killed as it is, we don't need more... and this is the guys first amateur fight? lmao, nice start cheater.
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I don't see anyone here advocating that we replace technique or hard work with steroids. Steroids can decrease recovery time, and make you less susceptible to injury. This allows you to safely increase training frequency and intensity.
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If you are using and know you have a fight coming up... you are a cheat... it's that simple. If you can't need more recovery time, get on creatine or something that isn't illegal in the sport. These are common excuses people use when it comes to this. I know what a steroid can help and it's great.... you know what? Creatine was also shown to decrease concussions, that helps lessen the chance of injury too.
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Well I'm past the point of being able to hide the fact that I take steroids.... so I guess I just accept the fact I'm a cheater.
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If you compete then yes, you are
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no who calls other guys cheaters? guys who loose
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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That's fine... but i'm not the one competing and needing to use juice for my FIRST fight because i'm a bitch.
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Do you happen to know what arguing with fallacies is?? It's when you take a fact that has nothing to do with the argument but just because it is a true statement you try to make it seem to be valid for the argument.
Btw I think there's more pressure to use ass your first fight then any there after. Most realize in time it's really counter productive in any substantial amounts.
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whatever you say man, for me it's a moral issue and this isn't some guy that wants to use the stuff for looks or to be able to lift more or some other personal reason. Using in a combat sport only further makes the risk of injury to the other person that much more possible, if you seem to think that somehow it's ok, then use whatever logic you must to convince yourself that it's ok.
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If you take gear in a combat sport in reality its your own personal choice ever notice the juicers who show up to a fight on gear usually end up losing there is a long list of fails everybody wants to be a champion no one wants to work hard im on my first ever cycle after years and years of doing it natural low dose of test for recovery purposes I wont juice while in a ring boxing does a number on ones body call me a cheater that's fine I don't get paid to care we are adults in the end when we juice its our fault no one else's
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Yes, I know a lot of fighters who use do wind up losing. It's just an issue where I feel like enough is enough in sports that are already dangerous. I'm not against pro's using test if they have low test, for instance in NV a pro can get a TUE (test use exemption) but the ratio has to be a 1:1. Alister Overeem for instance tested what? like 16:1 or 9:1? I mean really? A person really needs that much? I don't box professionally... I do it all for exercise and self defense (which i've never had to use). I guess it sounds like i'm being high and mighty or something. I'm not trying to come off that way. I just think if the guy is in his first fight that he should see how he does first shouldn't he? I mean, is it a lack of confidence or is it an issue of just guessing everyone else is doing it, so it's ok that I do sort of mentality?
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A fighter needs to work out naturally before he jumps into the gear game diet needs to be in check etc every fighter develops his own rhythm and formula as he grows but roids are a temptation some people feel they can do them and become the greatest that's when injuries come in knowledge is key to growth taking roids means your trying to take training beyond your limits and if this is his first fight he should learn natural limits before juicing we all work different if he is impatient to grow naturally then he has a lot to learn boxers aren't powerlifters very few roids help us but if he is gonna juice learn before you hurt yourself
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You are a moron. There are so many forums for fighters where anabolics are never discussed. Get on one of those if you think we are so bad. Don't come on a site called steroid.com and then call us fvcking cheaters. In pro and amateur sports today steroids are widely used and your foolish if you think otherwise. Don't get on another persons thread and start bashing. And btw who has died from steroid use and how is adding steroids going to make your combat sport more dangerous? Please don't say roid rage or you may get kicked off the forum
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Lol if you haven't competed which is what your post is saying how is your opinion or calling him a cheater valid?
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ummm, well there is this thing called being illegal, and roids are illegal ... in your personal life, that's up to you. In boxing, if you take it, you're known as a cheat... I would say that opinion is pretty valid. We also don't know who has died because their opponent was using steroids do we? We all know the testing is lackluster in the boxing world and has just recently been brought to light.
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You CANNOT account a single death to anabolic steroid use. Sergio Oliva just died and he was above the age of 70. During the time he was competing he was using gear which would be insane to use now due to the higher standards the drugs are made at these days. Plus the fact that we know so much more about it. Nobody has died from steroid use. I'm sure people have died from one to many punches to the head though.
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I'm talking about people dying because a user is going to be stronger and therefore be able to punch harder, kick harder, etc. I am not attributing deaths to the use itself. By the way, my Grandmother died 2 years ago ... she was 90, overweight and had also had a heart attack about 20 years prior, so what exactly is the point you are trying to make with age anyway?? My Aunt was also 94 when she died. Neither of them used steroids btw lol.
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my MMA coach uses low test anavar hcg and still maintains a PCT way before a fight to get him clean for a screen
cheq drops is not intended for long use. so use carefully, its very effective though raising aggresion in fights as it blocks E levels almost completely
most importantly read and research before you use any type of enhancers, people here help but you have to do your part dont go by word of mouth. What works for Mr X might have adverse effects on you.
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in boxing your known as a cheat? By who the fans? your not in boxing, you have no idea.
I have been friends with pro boxers, i just got a happy thanksgiving text from a ufc champ. Unless you are in the scene you have no idea.
You think your "friends" at the boxing gym are going to be honest with a guy that doesnt compete and nothing to loose. Why would they risk anything by talking to you about it. They are giving the political correct answers like they all have to do,
And who has died from steriod use. Please. Know how many juiceheads just fight in real life fights at bars or clubs. Granted they arent trained boxers but there isnt an epidemic of the super strength of juiceheads beating people to death.
Your post are ridiculous. you can have your opinion that its cheating and that is fine. But what kind of reaction do you expect on a steroid forum.
But dont make up shit you have know clue about to defend your opinion
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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Well guys, I could use some more advice. I have been reading a lot on various gear and what everyone thinks is better or worse. However, I'm still not exactly sure what would work best for me. I'm not really wanting to get really big. I mostly want to increase cardio and cut bodyfat while adding a little muscle mass. I just want to be able to keep whatever gains I get. Thats where I need some more advice! I have consider Winstrol, Anavar, Primo, & HGH as a possibility. Could someone please help with what would be a good cycle for someone thats new. Thanks
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everyone already said anavar and winny is bad.
HGH is very expensive for real gh. There are tons of "generic" ugl brands that arent real gh. Its extremely hard to get pharm grade gh and expensive.
Look into just a low dose test cycle. may 200-250mg a week
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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Well, let your UFC pal know that if he's using he's a cheat and a punk too then. I definitely have an idea what's going on, trust me ;-)
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and your jealous and use steroids as an excuse
yea punks and cheats. Come talk to me when you have to balls to actually step into a cage or ring.
And you think you know whats going on. If you really did you wouldnt be talking the way you do. Oh but you know so many that died from having to fight someone on steroids, yawn.........
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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I'm jealous? lol Really?... and I use steroids as an excuse? Well, that's sort of funny that all I have done on this board is simply ask about steroids. I have yet to put a single thing in my body. What did I ask about? I asked about 20 (twenty) mg's of anavar. Real powerful dose huh? You don't need to get all upset about people being cheats, perhaps yourself being included. I won't have not a problem stepping into a ring with anyone. The difference with me is that if I was on something, I would at least have the morals not to do so at that time.
How about this, why don't you name me some pro boxers who's speech is slurred and/or already have brain damage and then tell me that adding steroids to the sport doesn't add that much more danger to these guys. You need to take it to get into the ring then you're not just a punk, you're also scared. I guess some of you need that false sense of security though huh?
Last edited by boxingfan30; 11-26-2012 at 09:40 AM.
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bud,you dont know what you are youtalking about, you are on a steroid sits calling people cheats do some research, then speak,once you have knowledge.you say mma fighters/ boxers, are cheats, well if you know anything i guess they are all cheats, when you sall fighters a bitch, be prepared to back up your mouth.
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