20 weeks deca 200mg and Test E 200mg plus masterone 200mg to repair ligaments confuse

[dec11]

Dec11 the board is not so bad bro don't take it like that if you gotta a problem with someone just put them in your ignore list you wont see there post anymore its there for that.

Try posting on martial arts planet bro they are the worst moron pencil necks out there, they get insulted has soon has you say something sensitive and will argue with scientific crap all the time, i had a huge debate there about prolotherapy and all of them did no know or experienced what it was and gave me bulls$$it scientific studies off the internet that proved nothing. Leaving that site improve my mental health.

as leaving this site will mine.

ive never come across such a bunch of idiots playing doctor behind keyboards, and ppl stupid enough to believe them. then you get fvcking retards coming on with the dumbest stupidest suggestions ever and if you remotely laugh at them you're ticked off by the board. what a joke, its just a business hoping that these retards stop by their products and buy them.

not that long ago it was frowned upon to advise kids on using steroids now its a perfectly good idea since business dipped and so called certain moderators (not all, i'll hasten to add) took a sudden change in morals overnight, would love to hear their explanations for that?

[Swifto]

I think the only proper compound here to use is GH, but I'm not even sure how effective that will be.

Id go see a specialist, rather than trying to repair it yourself with compounds that yield their own side effects and where the data is not conlcusive at all.

GH would be my only choice, if I were wanting tenden, ligament repair and an increase in collagen synthesis, although Winstrol (Stanzolol) also shows promising signs.

[yannick35]

as leaving this site will mine.

ive never come across such a bunch of idiots playing doctor behind keyboards, and ppl stupid enough to believe them. then you get fvcking retards coming on with the dumbest stupidest suggestions ever and if you remotely laugh at them you're ticked off by the board. what a joke, its just a business hoping that these retards stop by their products and buy them.

not that long ago it was frowned upon to advise kids on using steroids now its a perfectly good idea since business dipped and so called certain moderators (not all, i'll hasten to add) took a sudden change in morals overnight, would love to hear their explanations for that?

I cannot say anything bad about the boys here bro they saved my life, what can i say my medical doctor gave me test E without an AI and i was feeling terrible, i beg to differ but the guys here have some serious knowledge.

[yannick35]

I think the only proper compound here to use is GH, but I'm not even sure how effective that will be.

Id go see a specialist, rather than trying to repair it yourself with compounds that yield their own side effects and where the data is not conlcusive at all.

GH would be my only choice, if I were wanting tenden, ligament repair and an increase in collagen synthesis, although Winstrol (Stanzolol) also shows promising signs.

Swifto thanks for links, and feedback bro, problem with GH is that i am not rich at all and this stuff is expensive, i am seeing my medical doctor on Feb 17 might try and sucker him up to presc some for me. I went to see a endo who is a personal trainer and has brought back some pretty messed up guys, i have spoken to a boxer who he treated with torn shoulder and 20 weeks deca masteron and test did the trick for him.

He is very knowledgeable in is practice and also trains and follows a bunch of amateur bodybuilders who compete or just use steroid like we do to get the body we want.

I was very unsure about masteron since you pointed out winstrol and i have read the studies they look like very similar compound.

I will keep you boys posted on my results for sure and see how everything goes after 20 weeks.

Personal note: i did a steroid cycle at 28 back then in 1999 and i can confirm today that half of it was crap, i had deca that was fake winstrol that was fake test E that was real and masteron that was real? go figure i started my cycle with dbol but gave it back to the guy after 10 pills, it was terrible, i had acid reflux and major stomach pains.

I stared at 174 pounds and finish that 3 month cycle at 212 pounds of pure fat and water retention. That discouraged me from taking steroids ever again until 7 weeks ago when my medical doctor put me on TRT. Real steroids shine.

This time and that is scary everything is real, i started out making fat gains, but now has my cycle progress and my diet has been changed, i also eat a lot more quality protein to benefits from the nitrogen effect of steroid i can see my body changing, and that on only 200mg test E per 10 days deca 200mg once 7 days and masteron twice per week at 100mg each,

From now its all test E because its impossible deca and masteron started to work, i am only starting my second week on them.

I cannot wait to see how everything turns out man 40 might not be that scary after all if everything turns out fine.

Wishing everyone on here great holidays and thanks again to everyone for posting personal experience either it be good or bad. You guys are great.

[musclelover]

i imagine the guy offered you deca for the joint relief it offers and the test to keep everything functioning.

Also read through all the war and that dec11 chap sounds like he needs professional help with very serious anger issues!

As it is a forum and a forum is where people discuss and share opinions and repect peoples views

cheers ML

[yannick35]

i imagine the guy offered you deca for the joint relief it offers and the test to keep everything functioning.

Also read through all the war and that dec11 chap sounds like he needs professional help with very serious anger issues!

As it is a forum and a forum is where people discuss and share opinions and repect peoples views

cheers ML

No i been put on TRT 7 weeks ago by my medical doctor 200mg per 10 days, started to read on here and found good stuff about deca another friend of mine is a chiro prolotherapist and physio and sort of told me that for max rehab he hooked me up with is endo friend, he gave me deca and masteron.

[choker28]

Chocker28 thank you very much for sharing this and yes this is the type of feedback i am looking for. Dec11 i really don't understand your reply and why you are flaming chocker28 here for sharing is experience. I don't see anything childish in sharing a successful experience.

Thanks again Chocker28, you actually made my day reading this.

your very welcome Yannick 35 .im no expert and dont profess to be. im 46 years old and have never taken Steroids up to now but i was desperate to get back into the gym as thats how i earn my living.As i previously said i had tried everything possible to heal my elbow.so this was the last resort and it 100% helped me,not only that i gained some good muscle mass which wasn't my intention because i walk around at 16 7 anyway on the whole my first experience with steroids was a positive one

[terraj]

Keep the name calling and kiddy fights in the PMs boys....this was someones thread once...

[lovbyts]

You mean "attest", good sir
They are antonyms.

LOL, that's for the grammar check, you are correct. That's what I get for skipping so much school.
Thank God for spell check or I would really be in trouble....

[lovbyts]

Amazing reply thanks Bonaparte, lovbyts you need to use it for a long time, 3 weeks will do close to nothing, i have been told that it takes close to that time even longer at lower dosage for deca to start working.

This is the reason i have been put on this 20 week cycle, in the first place to produce has much collagen has possible and for the prolo to use it.

I also have been told that Winstrol is terrible on joints, and also like Bonaparte says many say that the link i posted with that study is flawed and does not prove anything.

My bad, again I was unclear in my reply. I mean I only used the Winstrol for 3-4 weeks. The Deca was about 10 weeks, I dont think I made the full 12 due to whatever was happening at that time or I ran out?

[Swifto]

The clean up was a good thing to do swifto

It was like a car crash.

Agreed.

[yannick35]

My bad, again I was unclear in my reply. I mean I only used the Winstrol for 3-4 weeks. The Deca was about 10 weeks, I dont think I made the full 12 due to whatever was happening at that time or I ran out?

lovbyts what was the full cycle like? i read very mixed reviews about Winstrol for joints. I am on a 20 week cycle, test E did amazing on its own but now i wanna get back faster, the train is good now but wanna fix the nagging stuff that is left.

[lovbyts]

Im on HRT so I have been taking Test E for over 3 years. Only think it has done for my back (2 back surgeries due to rupture L3, L4 & L5/S1) is help get back in shape and strengthen up. I find that is the key and biggest help. Of course I was told to NOT lift, especially dont do squats or dead lifts but I find doing them properly, light weights and listening to my body it helped with the back a lot and they doctor has said since then to just keep doing whatever I'm doing. I'm not saying it's a cure all, I still have back issues, pain, numbness, limited mobility to a point but I know it would be a lot worse if I was not working out.

The deca did not seem to do much for me as in joint recovery. It did nothing for my back at least but I didnt have any shoulder issues at the time. Honestly though I also have serous doubts on the quality of the Deca due to very lack luster gains. I think most of the gains were due to my T increase. Only think that makes me think the Deca may have been real was after the cycle things just didnt feel quite the same. Everything worked fine and still does but the libido just didnt seem the same and it took longer to get things done.

I know it was 3 or 4 weeks into using the winstrol that both my shoulders tweaked at the same time and I was not lifting heavy. I wont use it again. I had problems with my right one before due to an accident cracking the ball and of course rearing the rotator cuff lining but never with my left shoulder. The right one has gotten mostly better but the left is still a big problem.

I hear you on wanting to get back faster. I have been looking into other things the last couple of years due to my back and old shoulder problems mostly being tendons issues now. There seems to be quite a bit for animals, dogs and horses when it comes to ligament repair but next to nothing for people. Look into Adaquen or Alflutop. There is some interesting information out there. I cant say personally if either of these work but a lot of people seem to think so.

[yannick35]

Im on HRT so I have been taking Test E for over 3 years. Only think it has done for my back (2 back surgeries due to rupture L3, L4 & L5/S1) is help get back in shape and strengthen up. I find that is the key and biggest help. Of course I was told to NOT lift, especially dont do squats or dead lifts but I find doing them properly, light weights and listening to my body it helped with the back a lot and they doctor has said since then to just keep doing whatever I'm doing. I'm not saying it's a cure all, I still have back issues, pain, numbness, limited mobility to a point but I know it would be a lot worse if I was not working out.

The deca did not seem to do much for me as in joint recovery. It did nothing for my back at least but I didnt have any shoulder issues at the time. Honestly though I also have serous doubts on the quality of the Deca due to very lack luster gains. I think most of the gains were due to my T increase. Only think that makes me think the Deca may have been real was after the cycle things just didnt feel quite the same. Everything worked fine and still does but the libido just didnt seem the same and it took longer to get things done.

I know it was 3 or 4 weeks into using the winstrol that both my shoulders tweaked at the same time and I was not lifting heavy. I wont use it again. I had problems with my right one before due to an accident cracking the ball and of course rearing the rotator cuff lining but never with my left shoulder. The right one has gotten mostly better but the left is still a big problem.

I hear you on wanting to get back faster. I have been looking into other things the last couple of years due to my back and old shoulder problems mostly being tendons issues now. There seems to be quite a bit for animals, dogs and horses when it comes to ligament repair but next to nothing for people. Look into Adaquen or Alflutop. There is some interesting information out there. I cant say personally if either of these work but a lot of people seem to think so.

I have been put on TRT to strenghten my weak core muscles, deca does a really great job at doing this too. Thanks for sharing yet another great reply. From what i can see steroids if not fix all the issues are well worth it because they still fix a bit. Theses are pretty serious injuries and surgery that you got i remember you posting a lot about them in the past, glad you are able to still lift weights after all of this.

For me squatting and deadlifting are a thing of the past, i got injured doing them with bad forms and they ruined 10 years of my life, i made the permanent switch to hack squats and leg press. I have also spoken to many person trainer and physio and more and they all told me that theses exercises put way too much stress on the lower back and spine.