home hgh authenticity test

[Gi812Many]

Kigs was bunk.............

[H2Okid]

i am curious to hear if any pharm grade turns clear(bunk). but if all the pharm grade stuff that is tested in this manner turns milky, then that is more than coincedence....

[H2Okid]

interesting. but as some of the vets have said, how do we know that hgh is the only substance that turns milky color. that side will be mimmicked quickly when the east hears of this test.

i agree it is NOT a legitimate way to test for hgh or not, because of the lack of research. but.......... it has me curious as hell?

[gixxerboy1]

once again i never said all pharm is real. People make counterfeit pharm grade unfortunately. And yes that is a big business.
but im sorry there isnt real gh in little unmarked vials from no name labs coming out of china.

[H2Okid]

i was watching a show tonite on Truffles (60 minutes). how they are produced, found, sold, etc.... the ones from france are worth the most($300 for an oz size nugget), and the chinese ones were one tenth that price.... reason= the soil that it was grown in, the way they were discovered(dug up with hoes(vs. dogs sniffing them out), climate, etc,etc, etc...
so the france ones tasted way good, and the chinese ones tasted like shit. they look almost identical too!

so now they are mixing the chinese with the french ones,(cutting) to maximize profits....

my point... I dont know, just got me thinking about Chinese quality.... just sayin

[fossilfuel7]

i was watching a show tonite on Truffles (60 minutes). how they are produced, found, sold, etc.... the ones from france are worth the most($300 for an oz size nugget), and the chinese ones were one tenth that price.... reason= the soil that it was grown in, the way they were discovered(dug up with hoes(vs. dogs sniffing them out), climate, etc,etc, etc...
so the france ones tasted way good, and the chinese ones tasted like shit. they look almost identical too!

so now they are mixing the chinese with the french ones,(cutting) to maximize profits....

my point... I dont know, just got me thinking about Chinese quality.... just sayin

I watched the same thing too and it also got me thinking the same thing. I would not be surprised if the same thing is going on with Chinese GH...IMO it has to be because I've seen to many Vets post that it took 8-10ius of Chinese to equal 2ius of pharm grade congruent with results.

I wish there was a way to get a molecular biochemist to really chime in and get to the bottom of what is exactly going on with CHinese GH.

I am amazed that the manufacturing processes of Chinese GH have never been exposed by the Anti-aging/Bodybuilding community after all of these years. Maybe to many people are in on it lol.

After all of these years no one knows exactly why it takes 10ius of Chinese to equal 2ius of American pharm grade??? come on...I think not...It's all about manufacturing processes...IE(ecoli bacteria/petri dish/lab conditions/timeframe).

There has to be a Molecular biochemist who is juicing on this board....right?

[Isma]

I'd like to know, all these guys are saying that this is no a definitive test, argue with a scientific base, why not.

Because, I've read exactly this: "Chinese HGH is crap. Doesn't work. This test doesn't work". Ok. Why?

And Juicy, could you explain as biochemist, why HGH turns white?

PS: I'm not saying who has the reason, I'd like to have a SERIOUS discussion with argues. Why this test show clearly the truth, or why this test doesn't do it.

[juicyjohnny]

I'd like to know, all these guys are saying that this is no a definitive test, argue with a scientific base, why not.

Because, I've read exactly this: "Chinese HGH is crap. Doesn't work. This test doesn't work". Ok. Why?

And Juicy, could you explain as biochemist, why HGH turns white?

PS: I'm not saying who has the reason, I'd like to have a SERIOUS discussion with argues. Why this test show clearly the truth, or why this test doesn't do it.

Did you ever wonder if all the guys saying its not a definitive test are on here selling fake shit making a killing saying well you have to be on a good diet or it wont work ? Most people take steroids well using growth so they don't actually know that the growth is fake because their getting their results from steroids , You can take growth alone and don't have to be on a diet and it will shred you if its real.

[H2Okid]

i remember reading an article I found online a few months back about some fake pharm grade(that fn'g sucks!). so you can get a script for pharm grade hgh, go to pharmacy and givem your rx, and there is the potential for the hgh that you get from the pharmacy in being fake? (pharmacy's suppliers(big pharma labs?) are sending bunk hgh to the actual pharmacies too?!??

[gixxerboy1]

i remember reading an article I found online a few months back about some fake pharm grade(that fn'g sucks!). so you can get a script for pharm grade hgh, go to pharmacy and givem your rx, and there is the potential for the hgh that you get from the pharmacy in being fake? (pharmacy's suppliers(big pharma labs?) are sending bunk hgh to the actual pharmacies too?!??

no its not going to be fake from the pharmacy. But people make counterfeit that looks like the pharmacy and sell it on the black market

[ScotchGuard02]

Been on same brand HGH for 40 months. I went off for 14 days during holiday break. Gained 4% belly fat. Going back on HGH and if lose belly fat (eating is the same). The HGH must be good. At least there's something in there that's helping. I boiled one up, cloudy. Let's see if I lose belly fat.

[fossilfuel7]

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[fossilfuel7]

Been on same brand HGH for 40 months. I went off for 14 days during holiday break. Gained 4% belly fat. Going back on HGH and if lose belly fat (eating is the same). The HGH must be good. At least there's something in there that's helping. I boiled one up, cloudy. Let's see if I lose belly fat.

What brand have you been on?

[SlimmerMe]

You guys sure are doing a lot of cookin'

[juicyjohnny]

Anything that you boil and cones up clear is fake and you need to have a chat with your dealer

[IMTH]

hyge-pro .... cloudy
genheal....seems like more cloudy then hyge
europharmaceuticals ( or something like that named) .... clear

my opinion : im on hyge from a long time and it works,i did try just few iu from geheal so cant be sure,europharma - must be 192a inside since i get redness everytime when i inject,but it came out clear on the test? so it must mean something?

[Bonaparte]

Even if legit GH turns permanently cloudy when heated, that does not mean that anything that turns permanently cloudy when heated is legit GH.
Any other long peptide sequence should have this characteristic (turning white when denatured). Hell, I could put raw egg whites in a vial and they would pass this test.

[freak1]

i just like to add that i boiled up a vial of legit gh my freind gets from his doc.didnt turn cloudy at all.not sure if i can say the brand but its well known.

[PT]

Even if legit GH turns permanently cloudy when heated, that does not mean that anything that turns permanently cloudy when heated is legit GH.
Any other long peptide sequence should have this characteristic (turning white when denatured). Hell, I could put raw egg whites in a vial and they would pass this test.

thank god someone said it. this is the most insane testing method i have ever seen in all my years.

[Times Roman]

thank god someone said it. this is the most insane testing method i have ever seen in all my years.

i think it's been said a couple of times within this rather lengthy thread. but it's important to repeat it.

[Sgt. Hartman]

If it's from a licensed lab you can name it, just no ugl's......

[freak1]

st hartman it was serostim.my pal even said he had BW done n hr after he pinned and it was high .so i guess that boiling test thing might not be very accurate .just my 2c

[Sgt. Hartman]

st hartman it was serostim.my pal even said he had BW done n hr after he pinned and it was high .so i guess that boiling test thing might not be very accurate .just my 2c

^^^Agreed.

[Xtrakt0r]

I don't know if anyone has asked the question yet.. But are we talking about the full GH sequence or Frag??

I believe there is a difference here. The GH I get is Generic and its frag 176-191. On reconstitution alone it gets a bit cloudy/milky and this is normal in most circumstances for GH Frag. The GH is real as I have confirmed with an IGF-1 blood test and I have been using it for a while with great results.

So if we're talking about the full sequence GH, then would this test work for Frag as well?

[Xtrakt0r]

PS. In saying the above, I believe the best way to see if your GH is real, is get a blood test done within an hour of administration.

[muscleport]

PS. In saying the above, I believe the best way to see if your GH is real, is get a blood test done within an hour of administration.

Absolutely , actually I see someone in other forum did exactly a test before /after and see an increase. That seals it.

[sxracer]

As a molecular biochemist that routinely works with Peptides I can tell you guys a simple test that you can do at home to see if your HGH is the real deal. Also, for those of you that have red welts, itching, and sore spots at injection sites, I will explain here briefly what is likely going on.

You all know the hcg test with the pregnancy strips so I won't go into that. To test you HGH, 1. Reconstitute it. 2. Bring a pot of water to a boil. 3. Put your HGH vial (which you are sacrificing) into the boiling water for 2 min. 4. Look to see if the solution turns milky/cloudy white.

If your HGH is real it will turn cloudy/milky white after this procedure.

5. Let the vial set aside at room temperature for one day. 6. If the solution becomes clear again and you don't see any milkyness then the HGH is fake.

Posted below is a COA obtained from a large manufacturer. Note the contaminants that are commonly found in HGH powders and their threshold limit values per WHO regulations. HGH is produced through recombinant gene expression in e.coli bacteria. These bacteria produce a lot of toxins in the manufacturing process that are painstakingly removed from the HGH whilst maintaining HGH in its active form.

Depending on the quality of the isolation process varying amounts of these toxins will be present in the powder. Even the most expensive HGH preparations will contain at least some of these toxins. These bacterial produced toxins are likely the cause of many of the skin reactions reported here as they are triggers for the bodies immune response. They are nothing to worry about so long as they are not present in any lethal quantity which they are nowhere near.

Hope that clears things up for everyone.

I am going to try this today on a VERY popular generic. Will post results.

[sxracer]

Hygetpn = Cloudy. (Comes from VERY reputable source)

Getting IGF and other BW done tomorrow.

Last time I tested IGF, I was on 2 IU Hyge, and came back 389. (Baseline before HGH was 170)

[bmit]

Boiled up some kigtropins with the expiration date printed on the side of the box. Was pretty certain were bunk - and they never turned milky.
Have had good results though in the past with generic unlabeled Jintropin (blue tops) verified through blood work, BTW.
Have some new generic blue tops that I will test and post results on as buying from China is always a gamble.

[gixxerboy1]

the test doesnt work because lots of chemicals can turn mily when heated. So if your vial turns milky it doesnt prove its gh

[Isma]

the test doesnt work because lots of chemicals can turn mily when heated. So if your vial turns milky it doesnt prove its gh

A lots of chemicals? I can be perfectly wrong, but as far as I know, white powder that react with water and "could" become milky we have HCG and IGF-1.

We could discard HCG easily, and I doubt if someone'd wanna trick you, he'd sell you IGF.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[gixxerboy1]

A lots of chemicals? I can be perfectly wrong, but as far as I know, white powder that react with water and "could" become milky we have HCG and IGF-1.

We could discard HCG easily, and I doubt if someone'd wanna trick you, he'd sell you IGF.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

who says it has to be a bb hormone chemical? There are millions of chemicals out there. Im sure some turn white when heated

[Isma]

who says it has to be a bb hormone chemical? There are millions of chemicals out there. Im sure some turn white when heated

Well, I'll wait the reasons of Juicy.

[Pac Man]

My generic blues turned milky, only did maybe 2ius. The rest was used appropriately

[Pac Man]

**** it, might as well give it a shot.

[methodmaster]

just done this test on some ********** and it went a cloudy spunk colour??

[methodmaster]

somatropin*

[Jessgirl]

That's good to know. Maybe when down to last box I'll try it!Would suck if its all in my head LOL

[bmit]

OK, tested a blue top generic from a very reputable source who is insisting its real, so I am going to have blood work done.
After reading what freak1 wrote about serostim staying clear, well...... I'm more confused than ever. I was under the impression legit HGH would turn cloudy/milky if shaken or boiled???
Also, if my IGF levels come back elevated does this the product is real even though it passed the home boil/shake test?

[AugustWest]

Im also curious. Someone on another board did blood work on Generic Chinese Blue Cap GH, only 3.3iu and he tested high