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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    Without Israel we have no friendly point of contact in the middle east..........keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Not sure why you believe that every thing will be rainbows and unicorns if we slam Israel......bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    oh, well thats quite a difference to these statements by you earlier


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    it sounds like you do wish harm on them. even those who agree with your opinion would not deny what you meant.


    sounds like you would like more than JUST that based on those statements. i dont think its wrong to conclude at all that you see it this way regardless of
    our support for israel. like i said earlier, this sounds familiar.


    completely understandable. and it has happened. i remember we defended kuwait who we were buying oil from then saddam invaded to take the oil with the larger goal of controlling the arab world. guess what happened? it was labeled a war over oil completely disregarding the idea that its rightful to defend a energy supply from an aggressor.
    when we get involved in places that benefit us we get called names of evil. no matter what we do its never good enough and we get scrutinized. there is no such thing as doing what others see fit anymore. people will always whine and cry like you..wait thats what you accused them of doing. they have a lot to issues that they express but you call it whining and crying.
    good post(s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    oh, well thats quite a difference to these statements by you earlier


    and


    it sounds like you do wish harm on them. even those who agree with your opinion would not deny what you meant.


    sounds like you would like more than JUST that based on those statements. i dont think its wrong to conclude at all that you see it this way regardless of
    our support for israel. like i said earlier, this sounds familiar.

    What I meant ( i apologize for the misconception) by the statements to get rid or bomb Israel is in no means I want them to die.It was said meaning I wish the governments of those countries would fall. Look the world is in check right now due to Iran, Palestein, Syria, Russia, China, Israel and I am sure a few more. These countries need to work out their issues without US involvement being lobbied by the Israeli's.

    completely understandable. and it has happened. i remember we defended kuwait who we were buying oil from then saddam invaded to take the oil with the larger goal of controlling the arab world. guess what happened? it was labeled a war over oil completely disregarding the idea that its rightful to defend a energy supply from an aggressor. WHy are you pointing this out? Who cares about Kuwait?

    when we get involved in places that benefit us we get called names of evil. no matter what we do its never good enough and we get scrutinized. there is no such thing as doing what others see fit anymore. people will always whine and cry like you..wait thats what you accused them of doing. they have a lot to issues that they express but you call it whining and crying.
    I never whine nor cry. I dont wear my feelings on my sleeve. And it is whining when Benjamin Netanyahu goes to the whitehouse and begs for the US government to intervein into the Iranian issues. Even Obama made a comment that (Paraphrase) "the Israeli government whines like little kids if they dont get their way".

    Look and this is it from me. As a former US soldier who served in Iraq and lost my share of friends, and now have more on the chopping block because US Policies, specifically Defense strategy by the pentagon to boost arms grants to israel worth hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 5 years. I am pissed, why do we have a ***** ass administration thats willing to make defense budget cuts thus causing thousands of US soldiers to lose their jobs so we can fit "Grants" to Israel in our defense budget?

    You may like these policies, and I respect that. However in my eyes Americans are far more important to me than any other countries citizens. God bless the US, UK & KSA and fvck the rest of the world,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    Without Israel we have no friendly point of contact in the middle east..........keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Not sure why you believe that every thing will be rainbows and unicorns if we slam Israel......bad idea.
    Thats not even close to being a correct statement. We "The USA" have better relationships with the Monarchs of UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, KSA, Kuwait, than we do with the government of Israel.

    Defense Relationahip just in the GCC:

    Largest US Navy Base 5th Fleet Bahrain
    2nd Largest Air Force base outside of the US UAE
    ARCENT HQ Doha Qatar
    6 Army 1 AF base in Kuwait
    AF Base in KSA
    US SF Training missions to Oman

    All these countries have soldiers from their countries inside the US training alongside US soldiers in many different occupations.

    Israel, Oversight company from the Pentagon to monitor WMD's, Israeli soldiers not allowed on US soil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    What I meant ( i apologize for the misconception) by the statements to get rid or bomb Israel is in no means I want them to die.It was said meaning I
    wish the governments of those countries would fall. Look the world is in check right now due to Iran, Palestein, Syria, Russia, China, Israel and I am sure
    a few more. These countries need to work out their issues without US involvement being lobbied by the Israeli's.
    so you want them to get bombed but they shouldnt die? yeah ok. why are you even attempting to explain? its
    not like your gonna get arrested or anything. and no the world is not in check due to these countries. the U.S. has kept things in check more than anyone
    in the history of the world. if it were not for us most of these countries would have already started war. iran keeping things in check? yeah with their
    support for terrorism. thats really keeping things in check. maybe if your an muslim exremist you might think that (notice im not saying islam in
    general) russia would have attempted to take over the rest of europe, and who knows what else. china would not have let taiwan stay independent from
    cummunist rule. palestine and syria? maybe nothing. we can speculate, who cares. hey but thats cool. oh wait i know. many peace deals that didnt last
    had more U.S. involvement than anyone else. why dont you think before you type?

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    WHy are you pointing this out? Who cares about Kuwait?
    caring about kuwait is irrelevant to the point i made....because you need to pay attention to the point i made. we get judged if we do things that help
    out interests and that dont benefit us a lot. go read it again with those clear thoughts in mind. kuwait was an example that if we stick to our interests only we still get judged.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    I never whine nor cry. I dont wear my feelings on my sleeve. And it is whining when Benjamin Netanyahu goes to the whitehouse and begs for the US
    government to intervein into the Iranian issues.
    of course you were not crying or whining. i was just saying that. that was just my BS interpretation just like you interpret that they whine and cry because
    they say what they have to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Even Obama made a comment that (Paraphrase) "the Israeli government whines like little kids if they dont
    get their way".
    he doesnt really take their side on the issues like past presidents have. obama, being
    insulting to someone he doesnt agree with? no way! thats a new one.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Look and this is it from me.
    im not surprised.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    As a former US soldier who served in Iraq and lost my share of friends, and now have more on the chopping block
    because US Policies, specifically Defense strategy by the pentagon to boost arms grants to israel worth hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 5
    years. I am pissed, why do we have a ***** ass administration thats willing to make defense budget cuts thus causing thousands of US soldiers to lose their
    jobs so we can fit "Grants" to Israel in our defense budget?

    ive been over there to. got it. you should realize soldiers are loosing their jobs regardless support for israel. after wars the army always cuts back.
    yeah i know were still in afghan but they think because we pulled out of iraq that its time to "cut the fat" which does exist in our army but we can cut the
    fat without the massive downsizing. i think their making a mistake considering the world is beating its war drums.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    You may like these policies, and I respect that.
    no you dont. you want israel destroyed. you have made it clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    However in my eyes Americans are far more important to me than any other countries citizens. God bless the US, UK & KSA and fvck the rest of the
    world,
    everyone considers themselves the most important through their own eyes. any nation rightfully cares about its own citizens first but to say one nations
    citizens are more important than any other nation is like saying nobody else matters in this world.
    so yes God bless our country and its allies you mentioned except that also includes israel to you jew hater. and God bless our none allies who at the
    same time are not our enemies either. as afr as saying God bless these few countries and fvck everyone else? hhmm. do you think thats God would see it? oh wait, you believe in a different God than me so maybe. maybe through their eyes their lives matter to. maybe their ok. maybe we all like spaghetti.
    Last edited by crazy_rocks; 02-26-2012 at 11:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    good post(s)
    thanx. its extremely easy to take apart everything he says. i feel like newt. we've been through this a few times. im not sure why he responds thinking he'll come out the victor anymore. it puzzles me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    Thats not even close to being a correct statement. We "The USA" have better relationships with the Monarchs of UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, KSA, Kuwait, than we do with the government of Israel.

    Defense Relationahip just in the GCC:

    Largest US Navy Base 5th Fleet Bahrain
    2nd Largest Air Force base outside of the US UAE
    ARCENT HQ Doha Qatar
    6 Army 1 AF base in Kuwait
    AF Base in KSA
    US SF Training missions to Oman

    All these countries have soldiers from their countries inside the US training alongside US soldiers in many different occupations.

    Israel, Oversight company from the Pentagon to monitor WMD's, Israeli soldiers not allowed on US soil.
    you dont wanna put all of your eggs in one basket. its strategic to have as many allies as possible especially with out current war on terrorist organizations. a larger number here or there doesnt matter to the other country as far as saying ah ah billy. chris is best friends with me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    thanx. its extremely easy to take apart everything he says. i feel like newt. we've been through this a few times. im not sure why he responds thinking he'll come out the victor anymore. it puzzles me.
    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    thanx. its extremely easy to take apart everything he says. i feel like newt. we've been through this a few times. im not sure why he responds thinking he'll come out the victor anymore. it puzzles me.
    SO there is a trophy? wtf dude, I for one am not looking for any victory, that must be you. I am just stating my opinion along with some facts about US policies that need to be changed and its obvious we yes you and me got off track.

    Sry OP, Rick Santorum will not be president because he lacks the ability to seperate church & state which by not distinguishing between the 2 he will not get the backing of AIPAC and the democrats vote that comes with their backing.

    Most likely AIPAC will back Mitt Romney or Obama again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    SO there is a trophy? wtf dude, I for one am not looking for any victory, that must be you. I am just stating my opinion along with some facts about US policies that need to be changed and its obvious we yes you and me got off track.

    Sry OP, Rick Santorum will not be president because he lacks the ability to seperate church & state which by not distinguishing between the 2 he will not get the backing of AIPAC and the democrats vote that comes with their backing.

    Most likely AIPAC will back Mitt Romney or Obama again.
    no. no trophy. its just board humor. ok i'll admit. i do get competitive. once i get a goofy smart a** of an idea for a comment i gotta run with it. its like
    a gnarly a** syndrome.

    as far as who wins anyone of us could be right...by chance. this whole thing has been crazy. personally ive tried staying away from political predictions
    this time. the primaries have taken a lot of unexpected turns these past few months and i expect more. i have no
    idea who will support who but as long as its understood what separation of church and state is and that its not apart of
    the constitution. im not saying you dont know but considering the misconception we have now days i wanted to tap on that.

    some think it means both church and state staying out of each others business while it was actually about the state staying out of churches
    business. again, not saying you dont know but so many people misuse it in legal cases it makes me mad. yes the things he has been
    saying could hurt him although it has helped but anything could change as this progresses. i never thought santorum would go this far.

    i will be on the edge of my seat for tomorrows super tuesday. i wonder whats going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    no. no trophy. its just board humor. ok i'll admit. i do get competitive. once i get a goofy smart a** of an idea for a comment i gotta run with it. its like
    a gnarly a** syndrome.

    as far as who wins anyone of us could be right...by chance. this whole thing has been crazy. personally ive tried staying away from political predictions
    this time. the primaries have taken a lot of unexpected turns these past few months and i expect more. i have no
    idea who will support who but as long as its understood what separation of church and state is and that its not apart of
    the constitution. im not saying you dont know but considering the misconception we have now days i wanted to tap on that.

    some think it means both church and state staying out of each others business while it was actually about the state staying out of churches
    business. again, not saying you dont know but so many people misuse it in legal cases it makes me mad. yes the things he has been
    saying could hurt him although it has helped but anything could change as this progresses. i never thought santorum would go this far.

    i will be on the edge of my seat for tomorrows super tuesday. i wonder whats going to happen.
    mini super tuesday...

    i think ricky winning tomorrow will be better for newts chances overall

    santorum has a good message and like he states himself he is polar opposite husein i prefer newt, ricky, then, romney, and paul over huesein...the economy would turn around but i'd be building a bunker and stockpiling weapons

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    mini super tuesday...

    i think ricky winning tomorrow will be better for newts chances overall

    santorum has a good message and like he states himself he is polar opposite husein i prefer newt, ricky, then, romney, and paul over huesein...the economy would turn around but i'd be building a bunker and stockpiling weapons
    i was pretty much thinking the same thing. i dont want romney to win so i was thinking it would be cool for paul to win one state just to deny romney delegates so rick or newt have better chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_rocks View Post
    i was pretty much thinking the same thing. i dont want romney to win so i was thinking it would be cool for paul to win one state just to deny romney delegates so rick or newt have better chance.
    exactly,JUST because i think newt is the man for the job and will kick ass...even wish he'd put perry on the ticket as i thing he'd make a good vice prez and has similar agenda/ideas just isnt the speaker newt its

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    romney squeaked it out....we might have to jump on that train...maybe ride up on top with the dog

    lol

    on a side note...see the $750,000 soccer field plans????? see the proposed plan to RAISE health premiums BY OUR MILITARY PERSONAL/VETS??????????????

    if ppl vote that fvcker in again i know i'm in the minority for sure

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    ^^^^ but what about hope and change and all the bad stuff GW did? (sarcasm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    romney squeaked it out....we might have to jump on that train...maybe ride up on top with the dog

    lol

    on a side note...see the $750,000 soccer field plans????? see the proposed plan to RAISE health premiums BY OUR MILITARY PERSONAL/VETS??????????????

    if ppl vote that fvcker in again i know i'm in the minority for sure
    but left everything the same for unions

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