interesting.
but im still skeptical, as this could be done with a few guys in the middle of the night with plywood and rope
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interesting.
but im still skeptical, as this could be done with a few guys in the middle of the night with plywood and rope
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Because the shadow government controls mainstream media ... Dr Steven greer hass talk shows on the "world puja network "that will discuss all this. You tube it. There are alotOriginally Posted by Times Roman
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Didnt I comment on this? Was it here I saw it? I watched most of this last week sometime. Good stuff. Hard to debunk and usually when they do it's a pathetic attempt.
Yup best way to keep this stuff quit is control the mainstream media. No different than what is going on in politics and I believe it's also a lot of the reason why they want people hooked on reality shows and crap like that so then wont pay attention to what is happening right in front of their faces.
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I would like to believe but.. I'm from Missouri The Show Me State...If I can't see, feel , touch, taste, then it's a difficult leap of faith. And faith is believing in something that common sense tells us not to...
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true. it's prudent to be skeptical. not prudent to have a closed mind or be pre judgemental. I still haven't watched beyond the 45 minute point in the video. I will say at this point I believe THEY believe they are telling the truth.
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Me too. But my mind is open. Some people see the glass as half full others see it as half empty. I say just get another glass..
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You know, just between you and me, (so don't let this get out), it wouldn't take much for me to take the leap and become a believer. I'm not gullible by any definition of the word, but there is some serious circumstantial/anecdotal evidence out there right now.
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You cannot see electromagnetism, or gravity fields, or radiation or oxygen or carbon dioxide, but we know they exist. If they didn't, we wouldn't exist.
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the witnesses all seem to have government jobs of some type. all seem credible. all willing to stake their reputations on their accounting. to me this seems to have significant weight.
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You got that right . And it keeps coming up. There slowly letting out evidence ..so mass media isnt too shocked . 1/4ofwthe world already believes we have. Or are being visiting by extraterrestrial life forms... Nasa videos Are showing up too UNDENIABLE , AND MOON PHOTOS ...
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moon photos?
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Yes and video .
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link?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_g0h...e_gdata_player
Also look at the biggest secret ever denied - moon rising
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strange and interesting, although with all the grainey footage, it leaves alot to be desired.
what about the moon rising link?
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x100....I've said that soooo many times to ppl about our ocean and how we constantly discover new species on land....imagine whats underneath....ppl always say well life cant exixst on Neptune its too cold....just bcuz weee cant doesn't mean somethin else doesn't. I'd always say if you've never seen the ocean and someone said there are lifeforms that can hold there breath and life under the water and swim faster than u can run would u believe them? answer obviously bein no but they exist. not to mention I've seen two UFOs as a child that I can remember vividly til this day and im 30
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they did it was a show on history channel that kinda covered this convention
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVDPQ...e_gdata_player
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[this is from #101]
I'm not sure what to say.............
As i sit here, finished watching the video, let's just say for the moment that the film is legit and not doctored in any way.
When I first started watching it, there were a lot of strange shapes, much of it seemed to me like Rorschach images, with my mind trying to make sense of the patterns.
The film did ask some legit questions.
Why have we not trained the Hubble on the moon and given it a complete once over, in color? And if so, why hasn't that been released to the public? Seems a simple enough thing to do, wouldn't you agree?
Why have all the moon shots been doctored, with a false horizon implanted in them? Those little cross hairs we see in all the imagery extend to all portions of the picture, so in their absense, the only logical conclusion is that they have been artificially removed for some reason. And conversely, when you do see moon/earth shots, where are all the stars? They should be everywhere, yet in almost every picture, they are strangely absent.
There are many craters on the moon. A crater is created when something collides with the surface. In order for a crater to be a perfect circle, an object would have to strike the surface of the moon at a true perpendicular to the tangent at the point of contact. It would seem to me that this would be fairly uncommon. So why is it that we see so many of these "craters" to be perfect circles? On further inspection, there were some night shots of these very same craters, and strangely enough, they seem to illuminate, much like a city on earth would illuminate at night as seen from space. At first, i was thinking it was some kind of illusion due to magnifying a small object. but there were many of these objects that seem to illuminate at night.
Maybe someone else take a look and see what they think?
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Today there are around 8.7 million species that exist on earth alone, spread out across the six taxonomic kingdoms. What is mind boggling, that ninety percent of ALL SPECIES that have ever existed are now dead, so since the dawn of time, this planet alone has seen around 100 million species rise up, and die out.
All this, on one planet. It's not a stretch of the imagination to know that any planet out in the cosmos with access to water and life can produce life. Extremophiles living on earth have shown they dont even need light, just water, as a essential element to survive in. The mathematical chances of our planet being the only one with life on it is virtually impossible. Even if the only way life could exist on a world is if our exact factors were replicated (distance from our star, only having one moon, two gas giants blocking most of the asteroids that enter our sol system), because of the amount of stars in a Galaxy, even with those stats, mathematically there are 1 million earth like planets in our galaxy alone. 1 million multiplied by 100 million equals 1e+14, that figure is staggering. You are into the thousands of trillions at that point.
That many species potentially, in this Galaxy alone.
So chances of life out there, as varied as ours, as complex as even humans, is pretty high.
Why is it doubtful that no one from another world has visited us is the laws of physics. Even 1 million earth planets spread out across our 1 galaxy are too far apart. So far as we know, the speed of light cannot be exceeded. If that is the case, no one is visiting anyone any time soon.
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we already suspect nutrinos can travel FTL (faster than light). we have two sources that have documented this. all recently. we do not know why the speed of light is a constant. some theorize it is actually slowing down over billions of years.
additionally, at 14.7 billion years old (universe's age), it is very easy to conceive one civilization reaching out to another, utilizing a multigenerational approach, where I would leave, and my great great.... grandchildren would arrive at it's destination.
some suggest these aliens have already arrived. And since we are already here (surprise surprise), then these "newly arrived inhabitants" are living in remote areas unaccessible to us (ocean floor for example).
It is highly doubtful, imo, that an aggressive specie would evolve to the point of being able to travel here, without anhiliting themselves first with whatever energy source technology necessary to get here. Because these specie are non aggressive, they are content to hide in the shadows and let us get about our lives. They will only intervene when they feel threatened, as is such the case with space based weapons, or the continuation of building nuclear weapons.
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The jury is still out on the LHC experiment and there is a WORLD of difference between propelling a nuetrino with virtually no mass to a space ship weighing over 100 tonnes.
If an advanced race came here, they'd anhilate us, strip all our resources and move on. Its what all species do that migrate to other areas, they out compete the native populations and use the resources.
What did the Europeans do to the native populations when they reached Australia, Africa, North and South America. What did Ghengis Khan do? What did the Romans do? Wipe out and replace.
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I'm glad I started this thread
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you provide some very interesting links but do not partake in the discussion??
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I had always been sceptical on the subject. Then my wife and I were going on vacation about 10-12 yrs ago and we saw something flying around in the sky. It was around 3-4am in Georgia on I-95. The thing was definately not a airplane or helicopter. It was going so fast and making turns like nothing I have ever seen. It looked like a star in the sky but was insane fast and agile.Cool whatever it was.
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I'm a bit of a skeptic when it comes to things like Roswell and UFO sightings...but I do believe something is going on as described in the book Chariots of the Gods and Ancient Aliens series.
Not sure where/if there is a God in the equation. I Still ponder on that one a lot even though I was raised in a Bible thumping family
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^fuk!
i meant van allen belt, not van kupyer belt
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Interesting thread / Read...
Nice to take a break & read something different.. Hmmm to believe or not to believe.
I truly believe as humans, we would be foolish to believe we were the only form of life in a universe in which our galexy/solar system/planet is considered Young. Imagine the ones Hubble can see that are Billions of years older. Distance is insane but you never know, maybe others have better elements allowing different rules. there's life somewhere, Ijust hope in our lifetime we find anything, even a plant or bug!
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Yeah that's pretty cool that several high-ranking military officers and a British secret agent who all gathered here over the weekend. Also there has been quite a few over the last year or more. Seems more and more are coming forward with information. It might be hard to deny for much longer.
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here is a little something i ran across this morning
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/...ntcmp=features
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Sorry . My time is short. Too short to whore :-( for the time being . All of these vids speak for themselves ...
I believe truly that there is a cover up , that we have and are being visited. Our spiritual side is important ...there is a shadow government ..
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so just say there is a cover up and we are currently hosting aliens here on the planet with the blessing of the world governments.
what would happen if word got out and people realized we are not alone, and they are here, right now?
how would that make the bloke in MickeyD's flipping burgers feel? would he continue to be motivated to get up in the morning and go to work?
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