On-cycle experience

[Euroholic]

Well maybe things got a bit heatered i apologize on my behalf Im just going to go to bed

[--->>405<<---]

Im not complaining i just asked a ligament question. I have a background were leaders are ment to lead by example to inspire people. I was just a bit shocked.. Take what i say with a grain of salt I think diffrent than most people. I dont mean disrespect to you as a monitor sterm. And dont hate on me cause im australian my country gives out 90% free gyno surgery. And my parents are croatian/german so im not a convict aussie..

dad gummit euro u sure have polluted my thread with a bunch of garbage! personally i do not feel i necessarily NEED to give u an explanation but i will anyways for others that may be reading as i think my explanation has some relevance to the overall theme of this site as it pertains to running AAS cycles.

now u say leaders are supposed to lead by example to inspire people right? well as u should know by now typically the experienced AAS users in the Q and A forum always try to steer new guys in the direction of getting diet and training down first, then once they have made decent gains and reduced their bf% (or whatever needs to be done) then consider running an AAS cycle, but not until they have also spent a good amount of time educating themselves with proper cycle protocol as well as familiarizing themselves with the compounds they intend to run and the potential for negative sides and how to deal with them..

now when i came to this site i was 213lbs 27%bf and i already had a little knowledge of AAS from some research i had done prior but never implemented because i didnt think i was ready. as a result of being on this site i started gaining dietary knowledge and with the help of some good fellas in the nutrition forum (BIB, GB,) put together a diet and started a cut. along the way i became aware of the possibility that my testosterone could be low so i went and had it tested. it came back low and as a result after doing all the things necessary (endocrinologist appts, MRI (pituitary tumor rule out), etc..) i began my trek thru TRT.

fast forward 18months to today. i have been active on this forum daily and learning everyday more and more about diet as well as asking questions i think are pertinent about running AAS cycles (such as this thread). bear in mind i have yet to run an AAS cycle (even though u think i should have in order to be where i am positionally).

here below is my beginning pic along with beginning stats:
213lbs 26.6%bf BOD POD LBM: 156.34lbs

now u can compare my beginning pic with my current avi of which my current stats are:
196lbs 10%bf LBM: 176.4lbs

so without the use of anything more than my DIET, workout, and TRT i have reduced my bf% by approx 17% and added 20lbs LBM in really less than 18months..

now in light of ur initial statement of a leader being someone who inspires by example i challenge you euroholic to show where i have not done so??

to the contrary of what u would like to lead others to believe i think what i have done with my time here epitomizes the example which this site endorses and tries to teach newbs, and that is: manage ur time bodybuilding properly and responsibly, in the right order. steroid cycles should be taken seriously.

[lovbyts]

^^^^ good example and enough said.

[lovbyts]

Thanks lovByts for explaining to this retard Aussy

Side note, a monitors spell check works better than mine also. Good thing I typically go back over my post and proof read. To bad I dont do it before it gets quoted though. lol

[Back In Black]

So you got a tan and a wax, whoopi doo

[auswest]

Amazing job 405!!

[--->>405<<---]

So you got a tan and a wax, whoopi doo

its amazing what a tan and wax can do!

[--->>405<<---]

Amazing job 405!!

thx aus

i didnt post this to toot my own horn, i just wanted to make a point..

[marcus300]

dad gummit euro u sure have polluted my thread with a bunch of garbage! personally i do not feel i necessarily NEED to give u an explanation but i will anyways for others that may be reading as i think my explanation has some relevance to the overall theme of this site as it pertains to running AAS cycles.

now u say leaders are supposed to lead by example to inspire people right? well as u should know by now typically the experienced AAS users in the Q and A forum always try to steer new guys in the direction of getting diet and training down first, then once they have made decent gains and reduced their bf% (or whatever needs to be done) then consider running an AAS cycle, but not until they have also spent a good amount of time educating themselves with proper cycle protocol as well as familiarizing themselves with the compounds they intend to run and the potential for negative sides and how to deal with them..

now when i came to this site i was 213lbs 27%bf and i already had a little knowledge of AAS from some research i had done prior but never implemented because i didnt think i was ready. as a result of being on this site i started gaining dietary knowledge and with the help of some good fellas in the nutrition forum (BIB, GB,) put together a diet and started a cut. along the way i became aware of the possibility that my testosterone could be low so i went and had it tested. it came back low and as a result after doing all the things necessary (endocrinologist appts, MRI (pituitary tumor rule out), etc..) i began my trek thru TRT.

fast forward 18months to today. i have been active on this forum daily and learning everyday more and more about diet as well as asking questions i think are pertinent about running AAS cycles (such as this thread). bear in mind i have yet to run an AAS cycle (even though u think i should have in order to be where i am positionally).

here below is my beginning pic along with beginning stats:
213lbs 26.6%bf BOD POD LBM: 156.34lbs

now u can compare my beginning pic with my current avi of which my current stats are:
196lbs 10%bf LBM: 176.4lbs

so without the use of anything more than my DIET, workout, and TRT i have reduced my bf% by approx 17% and added 20lbs LBM in really less than 18months..

now in light of ur initial statement of a leader being someone who inspires by example i challenge you euroholic to show where i have not done so??

to the contrary of what u would like to lead others to believe i think what i have done with my time here epitomizes the example which this site endorses and tries to teach newbs, and that is: manage ur time bodybuilding properly and responsibly, in the right order. steroid cycles should be taken seriously.

That is remarkable by anyone's standards, I know what that takes to do that and 405 your very motivated and dedicated and I take my hat off to you

[Lunk1]

I think poor Euro got jumped a bit prematuraly fellas. It was a legitement question asked by someone who is not sure how the system is set up. I think a basic explanation of how moniters and staff are chosen would have been much more appropriate than bashing him and his country of origin. Jeezzz...

Euro..there are many fragments that make up this site and ppl have stood out in different areas...surely you would not expect a supply Sgt. to lead an infantry platoon. There are many here with their little niche and some with knowledge several areas. This is what helps determine the ranking to a degree..

[diesel101]

thx aus

i didnt post this to toot my own horn, i just wanted to make a point..

You should toot your own horn that is one awesome transformation!
Great Job !

[Back In Black]

We weren't bashing his country. Aussies and Brits have a long history of competitiveness and banter. I would hope that the winks after each comment would have led him to believe that was the case. Possibly in view of other posts on other threads he made at a similar time would suggest he was not quite in the right state of mind to take the jokes on.

We have Australian staff too. Although they have absolutely ridiculous carrot top avi's it doesn't make us think any less of them

[Lunk1]

We weren't bashing his country. Aussies and Brits have a long history of competitiveness and banter. I would hope that the winks after each comment would have led him to believe that was the case. Possibly in view of other posts on other threads he made at a similar time would suggest he was not quite in the right state of mind to take the jokes on.

We have Australian staff too. Although they have absolutely ridiculous carrot top avi's it doesn't make us think any less of them

I have a suspicion if you ask him he was more offended than you might have though....

[Sgt. Hartman]

dad gummit euro u sure have polluted my thread with a bunch of garbage! personally i do not feel i necessarily NEED to give u an explanation but i will anyways for others that may be reading as i think my explanation has some relevance to the overall theme of this site as it pertains to running AAS cycles.

now u say leaders are supposed to lead by example to inspire people right? well as u should know by now typically the experienced AAS users in the Q and A forum always try to steer new guys in the direction of getting diet and training down first, then once they have made decent gains and reduced their bf% (or whatever needs to be done) then consider running an AAS cycle, but not until they have also spent a good amount of time educating themselves with proper cycle protocol as well as familiarizing themselves with the compounds they intend to run and the potential for negative sides and how to deal with them..

now when i came to this site i was 213lbs 27%bf and i already had a little knowledge of AAS from some research i had done prior but never implemented because i didnt think i was ready. as a result of being on this site i started gaining dietary knowledge and with the help of some good fellas in the nutrition forum (BIB, GB,) put together a diet and started a cut. along the way i became aware of the possibility that my testosterone could be low so i went and had it tested. it came back low and as a result after doing all the things necessary (endocrinologist appts, MRI (pituitary tumor rule out), etc..) i began my trek thru TRT.

fast forward 18months to today. i have been active on this forum daily and learning everyday more and more about diet as well as asking questions i think are pertinent about running AAS cycles (such as this thread). bear in mind i have yet to run an AAS cycle (even though u think i should have in order to be where i am positionally).

here below is my beginning pic along with beginning stats:
213lbs 26.6%bf BOD POD LBM: 156.34lbs

now u can compare my beginning pic with my current avi of which my current stats are:
196lbs 10%bf LBM: 176.4lbs

so without the use of anything more than my DIET, workout, and TRT i have reduced my bf% by approx 17% and added 20lbs LBM in really less than 18months..

now in light of ur initial statement of a leader being someone who inspires by example i challenge you euroholic to show where i have not done so??

to the contrary of what u would like to lead others to believe i think what i have done with my time here epitomizes the example which this site endorses and tries to teach newbs, and that is: manage ur time bodybuilding properly and responsibly, in the right order. steroid cycles should be taken seriously.

That's great man but you're still fat prob 18% or so.

[marcus300]

I think poor Euro got jumped a bit prematuraly fellas. It was a legitement question asked by someone who is not sure how the system is set up. I think a basic explanation of how moniters and staff are chosen would have been much more appropriate than bashing him and his country of origin. Jeezzz...

Euro..there are many fragments that make up this site and ppl have stood out in different areas...surely you would not expect a supply Sgt. to lead an infantry platoon. There are many here with their little niche and some with knowledge several areas. This is what helps determine the ranking to a degree..

You took it out of context - shut up

[Back In Black]

I have a suspicion if you ask him he was more offended than you might have though....

He clearly was, but that doesn't mean we were serious.

[Lunk1]

You took it out of context - shut up

Hey Marcus.,..go bully someone else cause I aint takin your shyt!

[isellgearuk]

On test I feel awesome. With decade just feel sluggish but with an AI tat keeps bloat down. Tren any blends I'm on edge just want to kill. Paranoid short tempered so I stay clear. But apart from constant night sweats and good old fashioned greedy spotty shoulders it's all good.

[warmouth]

Maybe you could complain about me too. And at least one other monitor that I'm aware of If you think we are doing a bad job or shouldnt be doing that job because we haven't cycled. I mean, RyanGreg has done 5 or 6 cycles in 5 months and tried most compounds. Maybe you should suggest to admin that people like him are promoted and we are stripped of our titles?!?!

Sometimes (frequently) mate, I despair of you.............

You suck! LOL! I just want to become more "knowledgeable". Ha ha. I think all of our mods are well suited for their promotion.

[JJ78]

I'm 34, will be 35 in Dec.

I am in the best shape of my life.

As far as anger issues go, I never feel any more short tempered than usual on Test or Tren. The only time I get agitated is when I am driving.

The only side I am really experiencing is I wake up every couple of hours. And for some reason, I cant sleep in the same positions that I normally can. My arms keep falling asleep. I think that is from increased muscle. If that makes sense.

Anyway, like I said before, dont follow my way of doing things, but you will love a good 500 pw test cycle.

[Euroholic]

Beautiful work 405!!!! You have shown the iron who is boss.... I never ment disrespect to the monitors i just assumed you were all aas gods on more test and tren than the bear i never ment to degrade your status. Lets just stop talking about this i apologize!! Dont ban me....

So does this mean admin is not dorian yates and lou farigno?Thats a joke bu the way!!!

[RuhlFreak55]

what iz 'not on'??

[lovbyts]

Beautiful work 405!!!! You have shown the iron who is boss.... I never ment disrespect to the monitors i just assumed you were all aas gods on more test and tren than the bear i never ment to degrade your status. Lets just stop talking about this i apologize!! Dont ban me....

So does this mean admin is not dorian yates and lou farigno?Thats a joke bu the way!!!

Good man for not taking things to serious or the wrong way. I'm sure you mean no harm or disrespect as you said. Either way now you know how it works. Im sure others will eventually have the same question.

[AD]

Good man for not taking things to serious or the wrong way. I'm sure you mean no harm or disrespect as you said. Either way now you know how it works. Im sure others will eventually have the same question.

a while ago, there was a thread named "I want to start a thread about Staff". started by vettester i think. where people can ask staff about the site and how things work. that would make a nice sticky. its different from 1-on-1 cos its open and everyone can read.

[young n wild]

takes less than 5 minutes bro.

So I'm new and i just had a few questions.. What's the strongest oral to take? What are the side effects like? Do i just pop it and go?

[austinite]

So I'm new and i just had a few questions.. What's the strongest oral to take? What are the side effects like? Do i just pop it and go?

Welcome. Please start a fresh/new thread so that we can answer questions tailored to you, as this thread is not.

[frank13]

Yes. Test alone never really bothered me. But Var, Dbol, drol, tren, deca all caused me to feel a little slower. react slower. I would even wake up and feel like I extremely fatigued.

This is what do daily on cycle:

Weeks	Compound	Dosage & Frequency
Entire cycle	B12 (IM)	1000 iu ED
Entire cycle	Rhodiola	250 mg ED
Entire cycle	DHEA	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	D3	5,000iu ED (except Wed/Sun = 50,000iu D2)
Entire cycle	Pregnenalone	100 mg ED
Entire cycle	Omega 3	3600 mg ED (must take with vit. E)
Entire cycle	Metformin HCL	500 mg ED
Entire cycle	Crestor	5 mg ED
Entire cycle	NAC	1200 mg ED
Entire cycle	Magnesium	500 mg ED (before bed is a must)
Entire cycle	Vitamin E	400 iu ED (Must take with Omega 3)
Entire cycle	Zinc	50 mg ED
Entire cycle	Vitamin C	3000 mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Arginine	5 grams pre workout
Entire cycle	L-Cystiene	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	L-Carnitine	2 grams ED
Entire cycle	L-Theanine	600mg ED
Entire cycle	L-Lysine	1 gram ED
Entire cycle	Calcium	500mg ED
Entire cycle	Cialis	5mg twice daily.

i almost do the same thing i save the Cialis tho cost to much

[FONZY007]

i almost do the same thing i save the Cialis tho cost to much

If u look around you can find it at a great price..

[austinite]

i almost do the same thing i save the Cialis tho cost to much

^ that's changed drastically.

http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...erbs-more.html

[frank13]

If u look around you can find it at a great price..

iv tried and well unless u have something u want to tell me im stuck getting from the pharmacy for a outrages price

[austinite]

iv tried and well unless u have something u want to tell me im stuck getting from the pharmacy for a outrages price

ar-r is too expensive? Have you tried their liquid?

[frank13]

thats one thing i have to deal with on cycle is i feel tired all the time

[frank13]

ar-r is too expensive? Have you tried their liquid?

i haven't heard great things about it

[S&S_ShovelHead]

i haven't heard great things about it

I actually really like there Cialis.

[FONZY007]

i haven't heard great things about it

Me too, it comes in 30mg's a ml I use 10mgs before gym, shit my veins be hella popped out for like 6 hours after the gym..

Not like GD tho... Let me get the BF down some more lol

[tigerspawn]

405 thanks for the post. I have been wondering this myself.

[tigerspawn]

405 has an incredible knowledge base in many areas and anything nutrition related I personally refer to his posts. Furthermore the level of dedication he has shown to the forums and its members does not go unnoticed. He's also a TRT patient.

I agree 405 is very knowledgeable and when he is posting I’m definitely listening.

This forum is far more than AAS related. Have you seen the other sections? Nutrition, Injury, Sports, etc... ?

I also agree with this statement. Most people come here only looking for steroid advice. I know that is why I originally came here. Right away, I learned that this site has so much useful information that you would have to be a fool not to take advantage.

[tiredofthepo]

Hgh does and will make you feel 20 again if it is real and most likely not from china but "some" of china's stuff is reall just not much. Takes time though don't expect a facelift look in a month, try 4-6 months minimum and the real good shit shouldnt be cheap 6-8gm's per 10iu x 10 or kit should run 4-6 hondo. Btw love the movie and the avatar "slfmade" "dont touch the ****in' merch' man!"

[tiredofthepo]

bro that's a TON of intra B-12 7,000mcg per week!! hope you weigh at least 250-260. just can be rough on your liver if running gear simult. it's your world though!

[Zodiac82]

IT IS WAAAAAY TO EXPENSIVE and they also have another identical site rui-products. try *********& they are the bees knees!! I DON'T WORK FOR THEM OR OWN THEM so I am not phishing just promoting a solid company. many products 2 for 1 and use the code "*******" AT CHECKOUT FOR 25% OFF ENTIRE ORDER I think except the 2 for 1's. still killer though! a-ar SUUUUUCKS in my opinion..., rip!

u have to edit ur post....u can advertise a competitor

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