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    Thank you OP very nice thread but I have a question. Could having low estrogen cause ED or only high would?

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    Quote Originally Posted by killer41qc View Post
    Thank you OP very nice thread but I have a question. Could having low estrogen cause ED or only high would?
    Low or high can cause ED.
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    finaly ,Which would be better results and better to use it for gyneco ? Tamoxifen ? Raloxifene ? or both ? how long ? dose ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    finaly ,Which would be better results and better to use it for gyneco ? Tamoxifen ? Raloxifene ? or both ? how long ? dose ?
    Ralox 60mg ed until gyno is gone

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    and have it any side effect ?
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    ^ None reported to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    and have it any side effect ?
    All drugs have sides. Even drinking excessive amount of water can be unhealthy. It's all about balancing the risks to benefits.

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    got Raloxifene, will run this after I am done with T3.

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    Magnificent article! Thanks for taking the time and sharing.

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    hi austinie i do bloodwork and that tell me my estradiol level is high as you can see

    T4 8.1 5.4-12.6
    T3 180 84-202
    T.S.H 0.3 0.25-6.2
    free t4 1.26 0.93-1.7
    free t3 2.16 1.5-4.1
    F.S.H 2.5 1-14
    L.H 5 0.7-7.4
    testosterone HIGH 44 8.64-29
    free testosterone 11 4.25-30.37
    estradiol HIGH 96 7-42
    P.S.A 0.4 up to 4
    IGF-1 117 89-276
    DHEA-SO4 HIGH 490 160-449

    what should i do to return this to normal range ? i m not on cycle and never cycle before im wonder why this is go so high ? plz help me can i use AI to return my hormones to normal range ?
    plz help i need your help austinie

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    ^ Get a sensitive E2 assay, not regular estradiol. But you can start with Your testosterone is high. When did you finish your last cycle and when was this blood work taken?
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    ^ Get a sensitive E2 assay, not regular estradiol. But you can start with Your testosterone is high. When did you finish your last cycle and when was this blood work taken?
    I dont never cycling before until now and im take this blood work about two weeks ago because i do one more blood work 3 months before current blood work and my estrogen level was high and dr tell me to use nolvadex for 8 week and after 6 weeks i do this blood work and get this result and discontinued nolva for two weeks after this final blood work tell me what should i do could it be dangerous for me ?
    plz help
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    How old are you and what is your body fat percentage? Your testosterone to estrogen ratio makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    How old are you and what is your body fat percentage? Your testosterone to estrogen ratio makes sense.
    28 yro and 12 % body fat

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    Interesting results. Try...

    DIM @ 400mg
    Zinc @ 50mg
    Copper at 3mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Interesting results. Try...

    DIM @ 400mg
    Zinc @ 50mg
    Copper at 3mg
    what is DIM ?

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    what is DIM ?

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    3,3'-Diindolylmethane
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    DIM (Diindolylmethane): is a powerful component found naturally in cruciferous vegetables that balances estrogen metabolism. Many of the health problems commonly associated with estrogen and testosterone are actually linked to hormone imbalance and unhealthy hormone metabolism. DIM helps regulate estrogen hormone metabolism, which can be beneficial for breast, uterine, cervical, and prostate health. Achieve healthy estrogen metabolism today.

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    BioResponse DIM Supplement for Estrogen Hormone Balance: Dr. Zeligs Bioavailable Patented Diindolylmethane

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    How long and what time of the day must be use ?

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    Doesn't matter. Just take it around the same time daily. Try it for 6 to 8 weeks and then test your levels again. If these are your baselines, you just have a hypersensitive HPTA and there probably isnt any permanent solution. Your body is likely adjusted to these levels and they are not harmful. But you can always visit an endocrinologist to discuss any concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Doesn't matter. Just take it around the same time daily. Try it for 6 to 8 weeks and then test your levels again. If these are your baselines, you just have a hypersensitive HPTA and there probably isnt any permanent solution. Your body is likely adjusted to these levels and they are not harmful. But you can always visit an endocrinologist to discuss any concerns.
    thanks alot dear austinie you awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    thanks alot dear austinie you awesome
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    You're awesome! Powerful day to you too, sir!
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    Would Ralo or Tamo help reverse Gyno in someone who hasn't taken anabolics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDwamn View Post
    Would Ralo or Tamo help reverse Gyno in someone who hasn't taken anabolics?
    yes.
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    Hello Austi.. Great info there. I was wondering if you good shed some light on Brimocriptine compound.. My first choice would be Cabergoline, as I am about to add Deca in my current cycle from the next week and can't seem to find anywhere. I BUY MY STUFF OTC.. But Dostinex wasn't available anywhere so I bought Bromocriptine Mesylate 2.5 mg a tab.
    Could you please tell how to use it in the cycle or add to the main article about this one too so others could benefit too, please. I'll be using 200 mg Deca with 500 mg Test e with .25 mg adex ed.
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    what was estrogen and estradiol range or level could be dangerous for a 28 yld male ?
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    what was letro dosage took you from 47 ng/dL to 2 ng/dL in 10 days ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    what was estrogen and estradiol range or level could be dangerous for a 28 yld male ?
    Don't understand. Just look at your blood work, it will give you range if that's what you mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliYousaf View Post
    Hello Austi.. Great info there. I was wondering if you good shed some light on Brimocriptine compound.. My first choice would be Cabergoline, as I am about to add Deca in my current cycle from the next week and can't seem to find anywhere. I BUY MY STUFF OTC.. But Dostinex wasn't available anywhere so I bought Bromocriptine Mesylate 2.5 mg a tab.
    Could you please tell how to use it in the cycle or add to the main article about this one too so others could benefit too, please. I'll be using 200 mg Deca with 500 mg Test e with .25 mg adex ed.
    Thanks.

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    I haent used bromo.

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    what was letro dosage took you from 47 ng/dL to 2 ng/dL in 10 days ?
    100 mcg.
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    if some one have gyno and then decided to solve this issue with raloxifen then with 60 mg daily use of raloxifen can either taking back his estradiol level to the safe range ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil-1986 View Post
    if some one have gyno and then decided to solve this issue with raloxifen then with 60 mg daily use of raloxifen can either taking back his estradiol level to the safe range ?
    Possible. Everyone is different. It will work mostly at breast tissue because that's where it binds to the E receptor more than any other, may not effect overall E2. Needs blood work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Possible. Everyone is different. It will work mostly at breast tissue because that's where it binds to the E receptor more than any other, may not effect overall E2. Needs blood work.
    thank you dear austinite thats very useful . and sorry for my language

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    no problem. You have a powerful day as well
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    Bump….Excellent read Austinite.Good job as usual buddy.

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    It should be put in the Bible between Ephesians and Phillipians...
    so many moving gears to pay attention to and after reading this 3 or 4 times, I know exactly what to do and what to NOT do.
    Well written too. Seems we have some experience writing "method and materials" stuff
    Thanks for you effort here Austinite

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    Well Austinite, what can I say ?? You're The Teacher !!
    I lived wrong the last 20 years? Yes, because I don't know a lot of the info that you posted here.
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    Great Austinite, thank you.

    2 questions:

    1) To reduce estrogen activity caused by an high progesterone level, we could use AI. Instead, to manage high level of progesterone ( which caused side effects you told ), what could we use ?

    Maybe the progesterone side effects are indirectly through increasing estrogens activity..... isn'it ?

    2) 19-Nor compounds ( progestins ) cause increasing progesterone level ( and so activate more receptors ) through up-regulations due of progestins binding on them, or just directly through the action to binding to them ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    Great Austinite, thank you.

    2 questions:

    1) To reduce estrogen activity caused by an high progesterone level, we could use AI. Instead, to manage high level of progesterone ( which caused side effects you told ), what could we use ?

    Maybe the progesterone side effects are indirectly through increasing estrogens activity..... isn'it ?

    2) 19-Nor compounds ( progestins ) cause increasing progesterone level ( and so activate more receptors ) through up-regulations due of progestins binding on them, or just directly through the action to binding to them ?
    1... You can use SPRMs (selective progesterone receptor modulators). Not recommended without a doctors orders and no need for it if you monitor your blood and control E2. That's your first line of defense. If you cannot control Progestins, lower your dose or discontinue use. Control E2 and monitor blood work is the only answer I have for that question.

    2... I can't make sense of this question, please rephrase.
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