test p only cycle

[devil-1986]

I decided to run 8 week of 50 mg/ml test p Eod only 3 shot a week on Saturday/Monday/Wednesday until week #8 , my question is on this such a low dose should i need Hcg , pct , etc ?

[FONZY007]

i decided to run 8 week of 50 mg/ml test p eod only 3 shot a week on Saturday/Monday/Wednesday until week #8 , my question is on this such a low dose should i need hcg , pct , etc ? i think because im using only 3 shot a week and test p half life is 2 days and after 3 days completely run out from body according to my days of shots my forth shot is Saturday on week two and about 3 days past from my Third shot then do u think i need ai ,hcg , pct until week 8 of this cycle or after ?

Why running so low?

[devil-1986]

Why running so low?

low dose = low sides or not sides = better results as i can see in my body shape only in week 1

[Euroholic]

Don't even bother. All your doing is putting yourself on a trt dose and risk shutting yourself down for no reason. Either up the dosage or add in another compound.

[Scorpion0922]

Don't even bother. All your doing is putting yourself on a trt dose and risk shutting yourself down for no reason. Either up the dosage or add in another compound.

Bump...I love "less is more" but 150 mg's/week is going to cause majjjjjjjjjor problems.

[devil-1986]

Bump...I love "less is more" but 150 mg's/week is going to cause majjjjjjjjjor problems.

can u tell me what problems will occur on such a low dose except shutting down?

[Scorpion0922]

can u tell me what problems will occur on such a low dose except shutting down?

You're injecting test which tells your body to stop making it on it's own. But you're not injecting enough to compensate for the loss. At best you'd be breaking even but more than likely be in a "test deficit" with only 150 a week.

And why prop anyway?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

You're injecting test which tells your body to stop making it on it's own. But you're not injecting enough to compensate for the loss. At best you'd be breaking even but more than likely be in a "test deficit" with only 150 a week. And why prop anyway?

50mg EOD = 175mg per week

175mg per week of legit test P is more than double what he would probably produce naturally.
He will not be in a test deficit.

However, I do feel it is stupid to do such a low dose cycle.

[Juced_porkchop]

Don't even bother. All your doing is putting yourself on a trt dose and risk shutting yourself down for no reason. Either up the dosage or add in another compound.

or just stop....
such a pointless thing to do, shutdown your production to replace it and need to pin 3x a week... why on earth would you bother is my question... if your not hitting 400mg ew dont bother IMO

[devil-1986]

or just stop....
such a pointless thing to do, shutdown your production to replace it and need to pin 3x a week... why on earth would you bother is my question... if your not hitting 400mg ew dont bother IMO

sorry but you are wrong , u didn't read completely, i did it EOD not 3x a week

[Marsoc]

sorry but you are wrong , u didn't read completely, i did it EOD not 3x a week

Riiight so that's even worse if your going off what he said.. EOD is 4 days a week lol

[devil-1986]

Riiight so that's even worse if your going off what he said.. EOD is 4 days a week lol

yeah 4 days a week

[Mr.BB]

Shutdown is shutdown you still should have pct and hcg.

[ScotchGuard02]

Anytime you're injecting exogenous Test into your system, your body's going to shutdown its natural production of Test. The dosage doesn't really matter. The only exception is if you naturally have little to no natural production of Test. It is recommended that you take an AI and HCG + PCT if you're not on TRT and want to restart your natural production of Test.

[devil-1986]

ok i decided to go with 100 mg/ml of test p in week #3 , what do u think ?
and it is a product Euro Generic Pharm , i was check that code and it is ok , can anybody tell me is it legit or ugl ?

[devil-1986]

ok i decided to go with 100 mg/ml of test p in week #3 , what do u think ?
and it is a link of this product Euro Generic Pharm , i was check that code and it is ok , can anybody tell me is it legit or ugl ?
and another thing is what is and how much difference between test p 100 mg/ml and test p 50 mg/ml except dosage and sides ?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

ok i decided to go with 100 mg/ml of test p in week #3 , what do u think ? and it is a link of this product Euro Generic Pharm , i was check that code and it is ok , can anybody tell me is it legit or ugl ? and another thing is what is and how much difference between test p 100 mg/ml and test p 50 mg/ml except dosage and sides ?

FYI: you keep talking about your dose in the wrong way.

You should say...
I decided to go with 100mg of test P 3 times a week.
Not 100mg/ml three times a week.
Your gear is concentrated at 100mg per ml. (100mg/ml)
If you say you are taking 100 mg/ml in week 3....
No one will know how much you are taking unless you also state the volume per week you are taking.

Understand?

[devil-1986]

FYI: you keep talking about your dose in the wrong way.

You should say...
I decided to go with 100mg of test P 3 times a week.
Not 100mg/ml three times a week.
Your gear is concentrated at 100mg per ml. (100mg/ml)
If you say you are taking 100 mg/ml in week 3....
No one will know how much you are taking unless you also state the volume per week you are taking.

Understand?

oops i think u was understand my mean because i told it before , my mean was very simple : 100 mg/ml of test p eod

[Billegitimate]

oops i think u was understand my mean because i told it before , my mean was very simple : 100 mg/ml of test p eod

No, not clear at all. A ratio isn't an amount. 100mg/ml is a ratio. 100mg in each ml. Like 60miles per hour is a ratio. If you tell me you drive 60 miles per hour every day, I have no idea how far you're driving!

Now, if you tell me you drive 60 miles per hour for half an hour then I can figure out you went 30 miles.

Likewise, if you're using 100mg/ml test prop and you inject half an ml then I can figure out you injected 50mg.

So either tell us what the ratio is of what you're injecting AND how much, or just make it easy on us and tell us how much of the active compound you injected.

If you don't understand these things it's concerning that you're injecting things at all.

[devil-1986]

No, not clear at all. A ratio isn't an amount. 100mg/ml is a ratio. 100mg in each ml. Like 60miles per hour is a ratio. If you tell me you drive 60 miles per hour every day, I have no idea how far you're driving!

Now, if you tell me you drive 60 miles per hour for half an hour then I can figure out you went 30 miles.

Likewise, if you're using 100mg/ml test prop and you inject half an ml then I can figure out you injected 50mg.

So either tell us what the ratio is of what you're injecting AND how much, or just make it easy on us and tell us how much of the active compound you injected.

If you don't understand these things it's concerning that you're injecting things at all.

ohhh my god , dont u really understand my means yet ?!!! ))))))) yeah i injected 100 mg in each ml eod from week 2 until now ,( first 2 weeks of my cycle was 50 mg in each ml )))) ill hope finally your guys understood my means ))

[devil-1986]

FYI: you keep talking about your dose in the wrong way.

You should say...
I decided to go with 100mg of test P 3 times a week.
Not 100mg/ml three times a week.
Your gear is concentrated at 100mg per ml. (100mg/ml)
If you say you are taking 100 mg/ml in week 3....
No one will know how much you are taking unless you also state the volume per week you are taking.

Understand?

thank u for your opinion buddy

[devil-1986]

what about using nolva and clomid on cycle ? what about ai ? i haven't found arimidex and exem only and only found letro and buy it i know i know we should going with 0.25 mg arimidex eod while on cycle from day 2 until pct but i cant found it, i didn't use it from the beginning of my cycle yet , im just waiting to see if sides going to show then using only 0.35 mg per week on shot days when test go to top peak , tell me is it good idea or not ? dont input if u haven't any advise on letro

[bobbypump]

i typically use adex, but this past time around i got from different source.. it did not seem to work for me at all. I did have backup pharm grade letro on hand, and I started dosing at 1/4 of the 2.5mg pill E3D. seems to work great as an AI for me. Cost comparison, you can't beat it. If running 350mg / week you will want to use AI. Letro is extremely strong AI, so start low. I would rather do 1/8 pill EOD, but I can't get that precise without a scale.

[devil-1986]

i typically use adex, but this past time around i got from different source.. it did not seem to work for me at all. I did have backup pharm grade letro on hand, and I started dosing at 1/4 of the 2.5mg pill E3D. seems to work great as an AI for me. Cost comparison, you can't beat it. If running 350mg / week you will want to use AI. Letro is extremely strong AI, so start low. I would rather do 1/8 pill EOD, but I can't get that precise without a scale.

thank u bobby for your input ,i was read one article from bill Roberts which he told for every 200-250 mg/week of test we need just 1/7 of 2.5 mg of letro(0.35 mg) ed , i think 2.5 mg/week is too high for that dose or maybe im wrong but currently im on week 2 on my 50 mg/ml eod cycle with using no hcg and ai and no sides yet , but have letro on my hand , after this week im going with 100 mg/ml of test p eod and put letro into my cycle for 0.35 mg e3 or 4 days maybe 7 is enough for this cycle ,after my 6-8 week cycle ill wait 3 days and begin hcg @5000 iu every week for 2-3 week with letro @ same dose as my cycle and wait 3 days and begin pct with clomid @100/50/50/50 and nolva @ 40/20/20/20

[bobbypump]

thank u bobby for your input ,i was read one article from bill Roberts which he told for every 200-250 mg/week of test we need just 1/7 of 2.5 mg of letro(0.35 mg) ed , i think 2.5 mg/week is too high for that dose or maybe im wrong but currently im on week 2 on my 50 mg/ml eod cycle with using no hcg and ai and no sides yet , but have letro on my hand , after this week im going with 100 mg/ml of test p eod and put letro into my cycle for 0.35 mg e3 or 4 days maybe 7 is enough for this cycle ,after my 6-8 week cycle ill wait 3 days and begin hcg @5000 iu every week for 2-3 week with letro @ same dose as my cycle and wait 3 days and begin pct with clomid @100/50/50/50 and nolva @ 40/20/20/20

I would run the HCG at 250 every 3.5 days for full cycle. Then start your PCT 4 days after last pin with test prop. .35mg E3D seems good start with your letro

[devil-1986]

I would run the HCG at 250 every 3.5 days for full cycle. Then start your PCT 4 days after last pin with test prop. .35mg E3D seems good start with your letro

thank u bro for your useful info

[devil-1986]

im current in week 3 of my cycle ( test prop 100 mg/ml eod) and pined 7 test p 50 mg/ml eod for my first 2 weeks (GB standard brand) then switch it to test p 100 mg/ml (generics pharm) and take letro .25 e3d from week 2 , my question is my first pins was very painful after two weeks i haven't feels any pain even in 100 mg/ml dose , is this normal ?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

im current in week 3 of my cycle ( test prop 100 mg/ml eod) and pined 7 test p 50 mg/ml eod for my first 2 weeks (GB standard brand) then switch it to test p 100 mg/ml (generics pharm) and take letro .25 e3d from week 2 , my question is my first pins was very painful after two weeks i haven't feels any pain even in 100 mg/ml dose , is this normal ?

If one brand of test P hurt and the other brand didn't then...
Either...
One brand is cut with different chemicals than the other or...
The second brand is bunk or...
You are developing a tolerance. (I doubt this since you doubled your dose.) or...
You are getting better at injecting. (I doubt this since it is too coincidental that the change in pain happened with the change in brands.)

P.S. You are still incorrectly stating your dosages.

[devil-1986]

If one brand of test P hurt and the other brand didn't then...
Either...
One brand is cut with different chemicals than the other or...
The second brand is bunk or...
You are developing a tolerance. (I doubt this since you doubled your dose.) or...
You are getting better at injecting. (I doubt this since it is too coincidental that the change in pain happened with the change in brands.)

P.S. You are still incorrectly stating your dosages.

i was really get great result in first two week every thing was awesome (strength, well being , sex drive ,gains ,etc) but in week 3 of my cycle i put letro on my cycle ( .25 mg e3d) then on 2 days later i wake up in morning with fatigue and sleepy not joint pain yet and i have that until now (week 4)

[songdog]

As a rookie who is just getting his feet wet I wouldnt suggest using Letro as a ai.Way to strong and you could crash your E2.

[devil-1986]

As a rookie who is just getting his feet wet I wouldnt suggest using Letro as a ai.Way to strong and you could crash your E2.

as i was told that before i dont found exam or arimidex then what should i do ? i should continue my cycle with out AI ?

[pushiniron]

take some nolvadex at the end to kickstart natural test and adex if you get symtoms during your course
300mg a week should do something but I would throw some dbol or deca in for size or stanozol for hard size

[Couchlock]

What in the absolute fuck is the reason for double talk

How many MG per week?

Enough of the insane banter, sounds like a 3 stooges skit.

You tell us the total amount In my, not concerned with frequency or ratio of MG to ml

You just say I took 300mg this week or something like that

[devil-1986]

What in the absolute fuck is the reason for double talk

How many MG per week?

Enough of the insane banter, sounds like a 3 stooges skit.

You tell us the total amount In my, not concerned with frequency or ratio of MG to ml

You just say I took 300mg this week or something like that

i said it thousand times before !!!!
1 ml of 100mg/ml test prop Eod for just 6 weeks total . im in my sixth week now .
i hope you guys finally understand my mean

[Marsoc]

i said it thousand times before !!!!
1 ml of 100mg/ml test prop Eod for just 6 weeks total . im in my sixth week now .
i hope you guys finally understand my mean

Yeah we get it when it's put simple like that. But all the first dozen replys were a bunch of mumbo jumbo with tons of other poor English to make sense. Believe me dude I'm asking tons of questions. No nig deal just trying to be clear

[devil-1986]

Yeah we get it when it's put simple like that. But all the first dozen replys were a bunch of mumbo jumbo with tons of other poor English to make sense. Believe me dude I'm asking tons of questions. No nig deal just trying to be clear

yeah your right bro , sorry for my language

[Marsoc]

yeah your right bro , sorry for my language

No brother. You don't need to be sorry at all. That's how yo speak and if your not a naturally English speaking nationality. No biggie. I wouldn't say it was a mess. Just hard to make sense. Yeah it was a mess lol. Jk.

[AR's King Silabolin]

Don't even bother. All your doing is putting yourself on a trt dose and risk shutting yourself down for no reason. Either up the dosage or add in another compound.

Nope. 150 mg prop will normally put him in the 1100 range. And that is about the dobble of trt.
Been there done that. Lovely. Horny as a 17 year old...mmmm.....much easier to loose fat.
But personally i would add a sarm

[Marsoc]

Nope. 150 mg prop will normally put him in the 1100 range. And that is about the dobble of trt.
Been there done that. Lovely. Horny as a 17 year old...mmmm.....much easier to loose fat

So are you saying that a sustanon 250mg/ml weekly will be good for all around gains. Or prop? I'm wondering what I should aim for weekly dose minimum

[devil-1986]

Nope. 150 mg prop will normally put him in the 1100 range. And that is about the dobble of trt.
Been there done that. Lovely. Horny as a 17 year old...mmmm.....much easier to loose fat.
But personally i would add a sarm

yeah , during this cycle my muscle gains was amazing and my body fat percentage reach from 13 to 11 at the same time , my idea about hcg and pct is:
1.waiting 3 days after my last injection then start hcg about 5000 iu weekly for just 2 weeks and wait 3 days after last hcg and begin pct
or
2.take hcg 1000 iu/day for 11 days straight and wait 3 days after last hcg and begin pct
and at this time i do inject B12 and B Complex eod ? or just one weekly ? i dont no which one would be better choose with take 1000 iu of vit E
my plan about pct is clomid 100/100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20/20 my question is about dosage and duration , is it enough dosage and duration or should i lower dosage and duration ?