Bush Possibly Impeached

[ross3814]

kerry's a f uckin puss! f uck that guy. im from mass and i still hate that clown. but the bush's need to chill out with making gear sparse!

[bermich]

TOCK. This is just the impression I get from reading most of your posts. Almost EVERY post you type has the word GAY in it. Do you have a lot of built up anger towards society. Do you feel you need to be embraced by everyone in order to feel accepted?
Your opinion of being in IRAQ as pointless is merely that, your opinion. But when you say US soldiers are dying in IRAQ for no reason is F U C K E D up.
As far as the US supporting ISREAL. Why the FU CK should we not support them? Is there a good reason why we shouldnt? Should we support someone else? Who can we support that will make you feel comfortable and not give someone a reason to kill thousands of people in a day??

You are seriously FU CKED in the head for actually coming up with an excuse as to why the twin towers got planes flown right into them.
You said if we didnt support Israel, we wouldnt have terrorists hating us and killing thousands of people. DUDE, you need some serious wake up call to reality and you can take your resentment towards the US and the straight sex to another country.

[Tock]

1) TOCK. This is just the impression I get from reading most of your posts. Almost EVERY post you type has the word GAY in it. Do you have a lot of built up anger towards society. Do you feel you need to be embraced by everyone in order to feel accepted?

2) Your opinion of being in IRAQ as pointless is merely that, your opinion. But when you say US soldiers are dying in IRAQ for no reason is F U C K E D up.

3) As far as the US supporting ISREAL. Why the FU CK should we not support them? Is there a good reason why we shouldnt?

4) Should we support someone else? Who can we support that will make you feel comfortable and not give someone a reason to kill thousands of people in a day??

5) You are seriously FU CKED in the head for actually coming up with an excuse as to why the twin towers got planes flown right into them.
You said if we didnt support Israel, we wouldnt have terrorists hating us and killing thousands of people.

6) DUDE, you need some serious wake up call to reality and you can take your resentment towards the US and the straight sex to another country.

1) No, it just seems that way to you.
If you were to take a close gander at the references to the heterosexual depravity running through many of the other threads and posts, you'd think this board was sponsored by some XXX magazine. I, on the other hand, have yet to start a thread concerning the sexual attributes of some sexy fellow, or recounting gay orgies or polyamorous adventures, or mention anything about my sweetie (past or present).
. You notice my use of the "G" word for the same reason you'd notice a golf ball on a black carpet -- because it stands out from the background.
. And "resentment?" Nah, I'm past that . . . I still don't like being a second class citizen in this country, and maybe I do resent that and the people responsible for that, but after an occasional rant to blow off some steam, heck, I can truly say that some of my best friends are straight . . .
Maybe you just notice my posts 'cause you think I'm cute . . .


2) I addressed that earlier when I recanted my use of the phrase "no reason" and said I should have used the word "needless" instead.

3) How much do you know about the history of the region? The UN carved out a piece of real estate for them in what had been part of the British Empire, and which had previously been a part of the Ottoman Empire. They were supposed to live in harmony with the Palestinians who already lived there, but things didn't work out that way (I'll let you delve into those grisly details for yourself). The Palestinians who lost their property were wronged, and US foreign policy made a big mistake and supported Israel in the dispute.
Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't support Israel in preserving their 1947 UN-approved borders and in making their country secure, but we shouldn't support them when their military shoots unarmed civilians and knocks down their villages with bulldozers. When we do, the Arabs assume the US is against them, also, and that makes 'em mad at us, and when things get so desperate for them that they have nothing left to lose, they turn to terrorism as a last-ditch effort to make things right.
All that is totally unnecessary. All the US has to do is support Justice for each group in the region. It ain't rocket science.

4) We should support Justice for everyone in the region (I already said that, but it bears repeating). At this time, that would include removing the Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory (as tolerable as would be Mexicans establishing settlements in the US) and getting both sides to stop shooting each other. But just getting them back to the 1947 US boundries will go a long way to cooling Arab tempers.
Problem is, though, that Israel has its fundamentalists just like the US has 'em. Israeli fundamentalists assert that God has given them a lot of the land the Palestinians currently live on, and they've got enough influence with the Israeli gov't that when they build new settlements outside their borders, they get the military to protect 'em, which is crazy, illegal, and immoral, and guaranteed to piss off Arabs. The US has asked them not to do this, but they do it just the same . . .

5) Clever spelling of the "F" word to circumvent the censor . . .
Nevertheless, I didn't say

"if we didnt support Israel, we wouldnt have terrorists hating us and killing thousands of people."

I said,

"The US would not have been targets of Arab terrorists had the US not been perceived as supporting Israeli intrusion on Palestinian territory."

And I stand by that. They see the US as big supporters of the people who have been building settlements on their land, and it's not surprising that they resent it.


6) Nope. No resentment toward the US; I know I've got it pretty good here. F'instance, there was a recent thread on living in Thailand, and I gave the notion some consideration myself. However, as outspoken as I am on a variety of subjects, it wouldn't take long before they'd toss me in jail for speaking out against local corruption, mixing of church and state, and probably lots more. Ya, I know I rant a lot about stuff in general, it's a hobby, I suppose. I don't bear fools gladly. And most governments don't tolerate that from its citizens. I'm lucky I was born into one that does.
No resentment to the straight sex either. I don't have much patience for fools, idiots, and bigots, but that goes for both straights as well as gays. You can see for yourself . . . come on over and I'll show you how much I like straight guys . . .
lol . . . (just teasing)
--Tock

[50%Natural]

And tock, thank you. You just answered everything I have ever asked of you. You finally admitted the problems of today are the poor judgement of yesteryear. Thanks. Through that long thread you managed to make yourself look dumb for saying problems of today are problems of the current administration when you went into specific detail about HISTORY. Good job tock...its called hypocricy...do as I say, but not as I do right

[Tock]

And tock, thank you. You just answered everything I have ever asked of you. You finally admitted the problems of today are the poor judgement of yesteryear. Thanks. Through that long thread you managed to make yourself look dumb for saying problems of today are problems of the current administration when you went into specific detail about HISTORY. Good job tock...its called hypocricy...do as I say, but not as I do right

I suppose we can attribute this post to different understandings . . .
I'm not sure what on, though, you don't post any quotes, so I'm not sure what prompts your calls of hypocrisy.
--Tock

[50%Natural]

I suppose we can attribute this post to different understandings . . .
I'm not sure what on, though, you don't post any quotes, so I'm not sure what prompts your calls of hypocrisy.
--Tock

well, I specifically mentioned the democratic party and social security just to tempt you into talking about it. We all know why the bill was signed(or at least those with knowledge in history) and we all know the economic situations surrounding them. Simply put, you are bashing a conservative presidency for numerous reasons. But, if you really wanted to, (in the case of social security) you can outline the reasons why it started. Hypocrisy in my eyes would be explaining one thing from a historic view point, and explaining or bashing another from a liberal or biased point. If you actually could go through all my threads talking about bush, or the economy or anything such as this, you will see I have taken a 3rd person point of view. I will explain facts and reasons that usually no one else will bother to bring up such as a historical viewpoint or explination while others hide behind current statistics and opinions to do their bashings. I respect the fact that you can debate in a calm mannner but I am unimpressed that you can change the basis of your stance in one short post.

[Tock]

Hypocrisy in my eyes would be explaining one thing from a historic view point, and explaining or bashing another from a liberal or biased point.

. . . and how have I done this?
I'm guessing we may have a misunderstanding or a miscommunication here which would be improved by presenting the specific situation clearly and making further inquiries. How 'bout we do that instead of using the "H" word?

--Tock

[Animal Cracker]

BRING RONALD REAGAN BACK...So what if he is cenile...HE didnt take crap from the lybians...from the iranis..from the syrians...from the lebanese...but the house of saud in check...Groomed GHWB to be Vice then Prez...back to the question..kepp GW in..let him finish his term then go..He isnt that bad..just lib-labs wanting to detroy America..

[bermich]

Well congrats to TOCK for a good reply to my post. Im very surprised. You handled that very well with your rebuttle. I gained some respect for you after that one.

I will argue about one statement though. The arabs would still target the US regardless of whom we support. The wester culture of society is everything they stand against. They have always hated us and we are an easy target for them.