i was looking for something almost as strong as real steriods but something that is taken orally...would you guys say that m1t is pretty close or would you suggest something else? thanks boys
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i was looking for something almost as strong as real steriods but something that is taken orally...would you guys say that m1t is pretty close or would you suggest something else? thanks boys
'Lurker at the threshold'
Originally Posted by birtcheh
m1t is not as strong as real steroids but its the next best thing. depending on your goals, i would say m1t is pretty good. i just ended my cycle and i was very satisfied with the results.
'Lurker at the threshold'
how long before lethargy gets out. im on day 5 of pct and still feel a bit lethargic, is it psychological?
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do u just order it from bulknutrition.com? whats pct? like ive 1ad and animal stak before...i just finished my animal stak...i found its to pricie and its great for getting cut but i want to get bigger...im 155 and pretty strong in most things..i want to get to 180-185...so do u think m1t would atleast help me get close? say like 170ish?
'Lurker at the threshold'
you can get to 170ish if you eat properly while on m1t. i got to 182 from 170 on m1t. you will need clomid/nolva for pct.
New Member
whats clomid and nolva for pct?
Member
I am going to chime in a little here guys. I have some questions for the following people that I hope can be answered:
Dirtydog: How much reading around did you do before you posted these questions? I am all for everybody helping everybody else, but come on man. The answers to your questions are posted all over this forum, some even further up in the same thread.
Birtcheh: Are you kidding me? What is Nolva and Clomid for PCT? You say you are looking for something almost as strong as "real steroids," but don't know anything about PCT. What research did you do to decide you wanted something similar to "real steroids" without running across conversation about PCT.
Everybody posting: Before you ask the customary, "Is this right for me?" or "How much of this should I take?" please take time to tell us a little about yourself. Age, weight, height, experience, diet, routine, goals, etc. There is NO right or wrong answer to any of this, and no question can OR SHOULD be answered without at least some background.
Sorry to everyone that had to read this, but some of this is getting out of hand. I have not been around that long, but I took the first week I was here to read every educational thread, hang around and research, and soak up a little info. I think that everybody should start taking that time, and the forum will really flourish with educated and meaningful members.
Just my 2 cents (maybe even 3 cents)
King of Supplements
I agree with birsling, Most of the last few questions can be answered simply by reading the original post.
King of Supplements
Bump for newbies.
Member
Can we get a supplement forum sticky on this thread?
Senior Member
Yeah that would be lovely
New Member
where can u order clomid and nolva from? i know u get m1t from bulknutrition but i couldnt find the other two
i have done my research on m1t and i thank u for the advice but u dont gotta be so harsh
just simple questions
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Birtch, not trying to be harsh, just trying to prove a point. As you said, just simple questions. That is fine, and I (and a lot of the great people here) will be more than happy to help you (or anyone else). The issue is simple though, the answers are already here. Why should somebody receive help, if they won't help themselves? BTW, know that my post was an overview also, an attempt to thwart any further issues with posting and re-posting the same information. Good luck in whatever you do, but I will not ever change my opinion on this. Sorry if you think it is harsh, but I think that researching your answers is showing respect to the people that researched and posted them in the 1st place.
STICKY!!!!
Oh, 1 more thing. Clomid and Nolva are prescription or research chemicals only. Search around on the forum or the internet, sources for those are fairly easy to come by.
King of Supplements
They have ads at www.anabolicminds.com for research sites.
New Member
thanks birsling
ok this could be a stupid question or might not be...like all u gotta do is go to your doctor, tell him u want clomid and nolva n he will just perscribed two weeks or however long for u? like what are u suppose to say when he asks why u want it?
Last edited by birtcheh; 07-05-2004 at 07:50 PM.
King of Supplements
No, that is not what you are supposed to do. He will most likely say no and look down on you from then on. Find a research chem site and get it there. Go to www.anabolicminds.com and check out there ads they have up. Some of the ads are for research chem sites.
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hahah ok that sounds easier..thanks
is there anything else i could pct with?
has anyone drank while on it? or if u do drink did u just quit during your cycle with it?
Last edited by birtcheh; 07-05-2004 at 08:24 PM.
Junior Member
Some links:
M1t http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ap/m1.html
4-ad http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/deca.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sf/4diol.html
Nolva and clomid http://www.ibelabs.net/aqs.htm
Milk thistle http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.as...C&PID=800&np=1
Hawthorne berry extract http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.as...4&PID=817&np=1
ehh... there's nothing wrong with linking to nolva and clomid seller, right??
Last edited by sorn; 07-05-2004 at 08:51 PM.
New Member
Am attempting to order the products needed for this cycle. I'm having a hard time getting my head wrapped around the 4-ad. The first link for it listed here says it's no longer available. The second one does not say transdermal. Would you guys mind being really simple in telling me what "exactly" to get?
After 1 1/2 years of working out, this is my first attempt to cycle.
Last edited by userabuser; 07-18-2004 at 10:34 AM.
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i was thinking of just doing m1t by its self during the cycle...maybe throwing in milk thistle during the cycle the pct with nolva and clomid or clomid and creatine
is that bad or good or what? haha..i just dont wanna **** my liver up
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Well, after al this talk about M1T, i am trying a cycle of it. Got some A.M.T M1T for CHEAP! Will be doing Nolva, Clomid, and Milk thistle for PCT and taking Hawthorne berry extract while on cycle. I am doing the recommended 10 mg ed for 4 wks, then starting pct weeks 5-8. Wish me luck, and I will keep you guys posted on what happens.
Oh, and just so you guys know i am not just some 130 pound guy that is clueless, here is a cold pic i took the other day. I am not asking to gain much, but 10 lbs and i will be satisified.
Last edited by Reelmuscle; 01-19-2005 at 03:38 PM.
King of Supplements
Do as the sample cycle says in the original post and you will be fine.
Banned
Im wandering if this will **** with my hormonal system as bad as say like test enath, also if it does will it be permanent (if you do the right pcts that is) thanks nsa
King of Supplements
It could potentially mess up your endocrine system if you are somewhat young. Thats why most people suggest being 21 or older to use AAS or PH/PS.
Banned
potentially, but will it at just 10mgs a day, if i do the correct pcts is what im asking, thanks again bro
'Lurker at the threshold'
provided your diet is in check 10 mgs a day is fine if you are below 200lbs.
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does anyone know a site u can get clomid or novaldex in pills? the site i was given before is liquid n ****
thanks for all the help boys! im sending away for everything once i find clomid and novaldex...do u think i could cut out novaldex and use creatine instead?
thanks again..i will get some before pics n after on here before i start it all!
Senior Member
What's wrong with the liquid? You know you drink it and not shoot it right?
King of Supplements
Liquid is alot better value IMO. Its the same effectiveness and alot cheaper.
Junior Member
Alot cheaper?I have not found a single website that has liquid cheaper than pills.You can can get 250 pills each of both nolva and clomid for $85 a piece.Maybe i'm looking in the wrong places.
Member
that is possible
Junior Member
I'm assuming yuor response was to my statement?Are there places to get more liquid than that of the 500 pills I was talking about for cheaper?
New Member
oh really? i thought i had to shoot it for some reason...it says not for human intake...haha sounds safe
Last edited by birtcheh; 07-06-2004 at 06:15 PM.
New Member
Yeah, can someone who knows what they are talking about give some input on this please?
Does the stuff people buy actually say on the bottle or vile 'Not for human consumption' or is there some that is suitable and some that isn't?
I have found alot of sites that sell Nolvadex but they all advertise it as a womens way of reducing breast cancer but im presuming its the same thing yeah?
Also input on clomid would be useful as ive found the same problem
Just want to know all the facts before spending the dolla in case I get the wrong thing!
Cheers again people
Anabolic Member
very scary how many ppl are willing to take a product without reading up first. Even more scary that people will question proven methods.
New Member
asking questions is a way of looking up a product and seeing if its worth taking...with all the facts in the world, u still want to talk to others to see how their gains were and what they tried using with it..i never heard of any of these products until two nights ago when ifound this site and now i know so much on it..ive tried 1ad and animal stak...and of course i looked it up before using it and since this stuff is stronger im really looking into it now...thats why i have asked so many question b/c i dont want to just start taking something then have a problem or waste of money
Anabolic Member
my post was no dig to you bro it was just a generalization.
but 9 out of 10 questions ask'd have already been answered
its just people dont take the time to research and read.
New Member
alright thats cool..i just saw it on here n then i asked about it n then i researched..i may of asked some stupid question i know but i didnt know at the time n now i do..theres lots to read about **** n i can see why people dont want to take the time n read it
its all good tho
Senior Member
Right on dude, I looked at this site for a long time before signing up and talked to my lifting partner whos been on here for a year or so. Hes just gettin ready for his first AAS cycle and Im now assembling the masses (drugs) and cutting for my m1t cycle in october.
New Member
ya im tryin to get everything first then decide when iwanna do it bc i like to drink...but i only drink once a week so i didnt think that affect my liver to much but im going away to college soon and frosh week there will be alot of drinking going on there so im trying to get it so its either before frosh week or after..i will probably end up doing it last week of this month or so
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