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  1. #1
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    I have a completely newb question. I am just wondering if I am doing it wrong. Do you count the dose that is in the draw needle. So lets say you are drawing the dose and the tip of the needle is submerged and you draw the plunger back to the dose mark you need and the needle is full without air. Is this correct or should you not count the amount in the needle? I draw with an 18 g and push with a 25 so when I switch needles I pull the plunger way back and count the dose and its about 30mg more when you include the amount from the draw needle. I hope I am explaining this right. I think my Dr is putting me on an very conservative dose to begin with so it probably doesn't hurt.

    Thanks

  2. #2
    interesting information

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    thanks again

  4. #4
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    Great information, never was really sure about injecting, I always thought seeing blood when you pull back on the syringe was good.

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    so if I wanted to do the shots in the bicep what would be the best needles to get? I'm thinking that would be the best place

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    Quote Originally Posted by hannon33 View Post
    so if I wanted to do the shots in the bicep what would be the best needles to get? I'm thinking that would be the best place
    i use 25g 1inch for my biceps
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    for shoulder shots is it a good rule of thumb to find the shoulder bone, line ur 3 fingers down from the shoulder bone and inject on the side of your nail?

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    should a guy push the whole needle into the muscle? or just enough to get into the muscle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by venturac View Post
    should a guy push the whole needle into the muscle? or just enough to get into the muscle?
    Leave some of the needle out in case it breaks then you can pull it out.

  10. #10

    extreme pain in thigh during injection

    Hi:

    I've been alternating between thighs and the right glute for 7 weeks now (once a week). I use a 1.5" 22 gauge for the glute and a 1" 25 gauge for the thighs. It's been very very easy except today.

    I injected the right thigh about 45 degrees off top and a hand length up from the knee as usual.

    After doing everything suggested in the 1st post of this thread, the needle went in smoothly but 1/2 way in I felt extreme pain. I pulled out the 1" needle and replaced it with the 1.5" one. I picked a spot closer to the top -- about 40 degrees from the top on the right side.

    It went in smoothly until about 1/2 way. I then felt that same extreme pain. It hurt so much I just injected without aspirating. I pulled out the needle and there was a lot more bleeding than normal. That was about 2 hours ago and I feel fine but I'm trying to figure out what happened and why I never felt this pain before?

    I've looked closely at the photos on the spot injections site and I swear I injected where suggested but why the extreme pain and how do I avoid it in the future?

    Does anyone have any thoughts?

    Thanks for any ideas.

  11. #11
    Have a quick question. Just injected into my delts, 1cc each. About day 2 they both hurt like I was dead armed. For the right shoulder it only lasted about 24 hours, but the left it has lasted about 3 days. My left delt is currently rock hard, extremely sore and the skin has a pink tint to it. I was told by a lot of guys I know the initial day or two of pain is normal, but I can't figure out why my right side is fine and my left is killing me?

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    Bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerspawn View Post
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    How important is it to keep changing sites? Is there a reason you can't keep hitting the spots? I was wondering about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machz69 View Post
    How important is it to keep changing sites? Is there a reason you can't keep hitting the spots? I was wondering about that?
    You have to use your own discretion and know what your body is showing and telling you. Since we are tearing tissue when we inject we build back scare tissue. After some time this will become hardened and will not have it's natural elasticity. You will end up with a hard lump and scar tissue doses not go away. Then it can even get unsightly and carry a little discomfort due to it being hard. Most everything dealing with injections comes back to common sense. ...crazy mike

    If you pin for many years you will know. It's just a fact of stabbing your body with a needle, hard object.....cm
    Last edited by crazy mike; 07-08-2013 at 09:06 AM.

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    oh ok, there's no worries there for myself, now this might be a dumb question but, does the muscle your injecting tend to build more then other muscles or ?

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    I have some question... If I am injecting Test E 250mg/ml and HCG 250iu , both twice weekly (Monday and Thursday) ,
    Should I inject the HCG in the same spot as the Test?
    Can I inject just in the glutes , left glute on Monday right glute on Thursday throughout the whole cycle
    or do I have to pin in other muscles/sites ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smile View Post
    I have some question... If I am injecting Test E 250mg/ml and HCG 250iu , both twice weekly (Monday and Thursday) ,
    Should I inject the HCG in the same spot as the Test?
    Can I inject just in the glutes , left glute on Monday right glute on Thursday throughout the whole cycle
    or do I have to pin in other muscles/sites ?
    The test should be intramuscular and the HCG should be done sub-q, although some people do the HCG IM as well.

    Rotate sites as best you can, it's the optimum way to allow your body to heal and minimize scar tissue.

  18. #18
    I know it's not usually recommend to pin more than 2cc I the delts but how hard is it on you to pin 3? I'm 6'1" 235lbs 36yo and not positive about bf% I'm currently on my 2nd week of 400mg/Deca 600mg/Test Cyp and 150mg/Prop per week. I'm pinning 1cc/1.5cc/.5cc Monday and Thursday .5cc Prop on Saturday. I'm pretty much strictly pinning my glutes because my thighs get so angry if I go there! I don't want to burn out my receptor sights or develop scar tissue early! Can I pin 3cc in my shoulders to at least have a 4 spot rotation? Any help will be appreciated!

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    Great post - bookmarked. Should come in hand!

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    What's up guys, I'm new to this forum stuff but I'm starting my second cycle. It's been about a 1 year and a half since my first cycle. I have some questions that need some feedback. I'm starting on Test Cyp 300mg/ml I'm only taking 1cc/per dose on Mondays and Fridays. I started my cycle in the same area I had when I first started my first cycle ever. The pain and tenderness as well with the swelling and redness has been more intense than ever before. It's slightly warm to touch not to bad. I figured after the first shot that it would go away by the second shot well it didn't but I went ahead with the dose and now it's been a week since I've done my second shot and it's not as swollen nor as red or as warm but still a knot and still swollen n red and but not spongy. I'm kind if lost on why I would never have had these problems before with the deca but now Ita causing problems. Nothing has come to a head at the injection site and after further review I found out that the way I was originally taught where to take my stuff was not the perfect place to actually be taking the stuff if you split the glute in fourths I've been taking it in the left glute midway on the right side of the left glute and before with the deca. No problems. Had great results but now I'm ffing hurting. So what do y'all think. Any advice would be welcomed

  21. #21
    I draw from amps which is a little different, but I have one tip for you. It you are a pus*y like me, buy both 23g and 25g needles. Draw with 23g and, change them, and inject with 25g. It takes little longer but it is absolutely painless! I usually close my eyes, push for 5 seconds and then the 1.5 inch needle is all the way in before I even feel it.

  22. #22
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    Hello!

    What are the resons to warm the amps before sucking the oil? I have heard that it makes the oil smoothier and that way helps with sucking it and also can help with the pain. But Do i have to do it? I have also heard that when the juice is "crystallised" ? you can suck it only when you make it warm enought. But how often the juice is crystallised? And should i see it if that is the case. Sorry if that is stupid question but i wanna be sure

  23. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by carbman
    Hello! What are the resons to warm the amps before sucking the oil? I have heard that it makes the oil smoothier and that way helps with sucking it and also can help with the pain. But Do i have to do it? I have also heard that when the juice is "crystallised" ? you can suck it only when you make it warm enought. But how often the juice is crystallised? And should i see it if that is the case. Sorry if that is stupid question but i wanna be sure
    Yes you warm it to make the oil liquify a bit more.. Helps with drawing it and injecting also helps it disperse into the muscle easier. You will see it if its crystallized it wl turn white. Just warm it in hot water

  24. #24
    Just got done reading this and all the replies! Thanks for the knowledge! Very informative.

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