Pictures of me around 6'4 335lbs

[vettewreck]

I really don't give a shiz what YOUR bf is. You think they ask Sapp or Will Shields BF%
I think not- You can do some things
How old are you?

That is basically my point. Not trying to be a jerk Carlos BUT, for you saying "you cant tell if he's big by his picture" is just a crazy statement. I mean he's over 300lbs. Big is big no matter what. Fat or not, at 6'4" 335lbs he IS a big guy...thats all I meant. No harm bro.

[Carlos_E]

Big is big no matter what. Fat or not, at 6'4" 335lbs he IS a big guy...thats all I meant. No harm bro.

Considering the point of this board is bodybuilding I would think the goal is to be big and muscular. A 6'4" 335 muscular guy is big. A 6'4" 335 guy with high body fat is just a very large fat man.

[BigJon06]

Considering the point of this board is bodybuilding I would think the goal is to be big and muscular. A 6'4" 335 muscular guy is big. A 6'4" 335 guy with high body fat is just a very large fat man.

This is true, but im trying going in the muscular direction, especially when i lose some BF%

[Carlos_E]

This is true, but im trying going in the muscular direction, especially when i lose some BF%

I'd say cut down and see what size you have under there. I've read your post on another board. Did you like Mt1?

[BigJon06]

im 24 right now

[BigJon06]

M1T, sheit, its hype, and thats about it, i stopped it, im sure i only gained weight because i was eating better....

[SMYL_GR8]

M1T, sheit, its hype, and thats about it, i stopped it, im sure i only gained weight because i was eating better....

How did you take it? I followed NSA's M1T cycle (see M1T FAQ thread) and it worked for me along with many others who report similar success. Not as good as the "real thing", but it definitely worked.

[BigJon06]

Honestly, i dont remember, 20MG ED i think with some milk thistle, and there are so many brands of it, and the hole prohormone thing, i'll stick to my meat, potatoes, rice and chicken.

[Elysium]

Hey guys.

No doubt you are big bro, i saw some photos of you on another forum (your nearly as bad as andre). I also saw a picture of your gut and its directly proportional to your upper body.. massive. How about you should a full upper bodyshot bro and show everyone the real story.

[Carlos_E]

Hey guys.

No doubt you are big bro, i saw some photos of you on another forum (your nearly as bad as andre). I also saw a picture of your gut and its directly proportional to your upper body.. massive. How about you should a full upper bodyshot bro and show everyone the real story.

Ouch!

You are one mean Asian woman.

[Rob]

by the looks of his newer photos posted up yesterday..he cut that gut pretty much

[Elysium]

by the looks of his newer photos posted up yesterday..he cut that gut pretty much

No, he's learnt to breath in.

[yooo]

No, he's learnt to breath in.

**** messy, carlos is at least constructive and he actually has pics of himself posted...

Dont flame, give advice...and while ur at it, post some pics!

[Elysium]

**** messy, carlos is at least constructive and he actually has pics of himself posted...

Dont flame, give advice...and while ur at it, post some pics!

I can admit mate that im not as half as big as him, and im certainly not the strongest or biggest on here. I just dont know how we're supposed to comment when every single picture is above his chest, this has been covered in many threads and one in particular from Prime that applys to this thread.

I can see that the guy is big, and well done for the progress. But if we are to comment and give you opinions lets see a bit more, its extremely hard to judge from what youve shown. Lets seem some back pictures, legs, full body shots, upper body shots (full).

If the purpose of the thread was for us to say how big he is then it has served the purpose, but this thread certainly isnt one that would accurately show the shape of this man.

This is not only my thoughts, but thoughts of MANY people from MANY different forums which Jon has posted the exact photos/descriptions on.

These are my thoughts, my opinions and do not directly reflect any other member here, im entitled to them as are you all.

[yooo]

I can admit mate that im not as half as big as him, and im certainly not the strongest or biggest on here. I just dont know how we're supposed to comment when every single picture is above his chest, this has been covered in many threads and one in particular from Prime that applys to this thread.

I can see that the guy is big, and well done for the progress. But if we are to comment and give you opinions lets see a bit more, its extremely hard to judge from what youve shown. Lets seem some back pictures, legs, full body shots, upper body shots (full).

If the purpose of the thread was for us to say how big he is then it has served the purpose, but this thread certainly isnt one that would accurately show the shape of this man.

This is not only my thoughts, but thoughts of MANY people from MANY different forums which Jon has posted the exact photos/descriptions on.

These are my thoughts, my opinions and do not directly reflect any other member here, im entitled to them as are you all.

The members pictures sub-forum is a favorite to many here because it allows us to see REAL people, REAL pictures, and something REAL to look at, instead of just dreaming about lookin like pros...

Well over half the threads in this forum aren't of the member's whole body, and many of them with even less than what Big Jon has shown us...

Messy, no disrespect, but the last two lines of ur post are contradicting and as far as i can see, u have simply restated the feelings of Carlos.. JMO

Big Jon, do what u gotta do to be what u wanna be, keep it up bro

[betatest]

I can see that the guy is big, and well done for the progress. But if we are to comment and give you opinions lets see a bit more, its extremely hard to judge from what youve shown. Lets seem some back pictures, legs, full body shots, upper body shots (full).

Why not offer this bit of constructive input and provide the link to Prime's thread from the start, instead of raking the guy across coals?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=142715

[Wrath]

No, he's learnt to breath in.

Messy...why are you such a prick?? I partly agree with Carloes said...and he said it in a diplomatic way, but you come in with your guns just blazing, comparing him to andre and posting pics of him. Your a hater man.


Honestly, I have been cruising the boards more often, the lounge and other forums have been a much better place w/o your obnoxious presence and snide comments. And I know its ALOT of folk that feel that way

PEace

[Elysium]

Messy...why are you such a prick?? I partly agree with Carloes said...and he said it in a diplomatic way, but you come in with your guns just blazing, comparing him to andre and posting pics of him. Your a hater man.


Honestly, I have been cruising the boards more often, the lounge and other forums have been a much better place w/o your obnoxious presence and snide comments. And I know its ALOT of folk that feel that way

PEace

lol buddy you say it like i care

[kaorialfred]

just when I thought this thread was dead,

I guess it cool, but hopefully this isn't an Andre thing
or he'll be posting here soon

[yooo]

just when I thought this thread was dead,

I guess it cool, but hopefully this isn't an Andre thing
or he'll be posting here soon

Andre is a completely different situation...this guy isnt photoshopped or anything like that, and he's takin the flames like a man, i respect that.. but i dont understand why people cant differentiate between a flame and a piece of advice...

BTW big jon hasn't told us any lies yet, why's everyone doggin on him like he has?

[Wrath]

If you knew how many folk didn't like your ass...you prolly would care

[Elysium]

If you knew how many folk didn't like your ass...you prolly would care

To be honest i dont think i would, i know i have a tonne of haters on here, people either like or dislike me theres no middle ground and im not about to say something just to make them happy. Im sorry you feel this way bro, my thoughts and views may annoy people but i'd rather tell it how it is then just be another sheep following the flock.

[Wrath]

To be honest i dont think i would, i know i have a tonne of haters on here, people either like or dislike me theres no middle ground and im not about to say something just to make them happy. Im sorry you feel this way bro, my thoughts and views may annoy people but i'd rather tell it how it is then just be another sheep following the flock.

Thoughts and views annoying people is one thing...but its the way you present your 'views'. No one is asking you to be a sheep guy. But coming out and calling him out, THEN posting pics of him,THEN refering his as andre...all before he even has a chance to respond.... is that necessary??


Your views are fine...present them with some respect [and to use the word again] DIPLOMACY, and stop being a jerk bee.

Not gonna hijack...so I will leave it at that.

PEace

[yooo]

If you knew how many folk didn't like your ass...you prolly would care

I hurr ya bro, but let it be, lets keep this place clean for ur and my sake..

check ur PMs

[Elysium]

lets keep this place clean for ur and my sake..

Good call

[Maraxus]

I think Messy gets off putting people down. Dont worry about **** like this big country. Good luck on your cutting, you obviously have made some improvements. Congrats

[yooo]

I think Messy gets off putting people down. Dont worry about **** like this big country. Good luck on your cutting, you obviously have made some improvements. Congrats

Thats what i like to hear

[BDTR]

You know what, who cares? The guy is big, he has A LOT of muscle mass, plain and simple. Yes, he has a lot of bodyfat too, however that doesnt take away from the fact that he has a lot of muscle as well. I see people post pics of themselves and they're 140 soaking wet but have abs and people say "way to go bro! Looking good!" but no one says "your so skinny" and the like. Everyone has different goals on this forum, some just want mass at any cost, others want to look like calvin kline adds and others just wanna be strong, remember, we all have our reasons. This forum is for self improvement, plain and simple everyone here is working towards a goal. I've spoken with john about cutting up before bulking anymore and he's making an honest effort to educate himself on the subject. He posted his pictures rather humbly and did not make an ass out of himself doing so. He said "here are my pictures" and he showed them. So what if he didnt show legs or stomach? He isnt applying for a job with his pics and there is no rules that say he has to show anything at all, nevermind full body shots. I'd expect a high posting member to be a little more curtious and condect themselves in a better manner, but I guess not.

I would I hope I won't see this kind of behaviour again, from ANYONE, nevermind frequent members.

[Cycleon]

You know what, who cares? The guy is big, he has A LOT of muscle mass, plain and simple. Yes, he has a lot of bodyfat too, however that doesnt take away from the fact that he has a lot of muscle as well. I see people post pics of themselves and they're 140 soaking wet but have abs and people say "way to go bro! Looking good!" but no one says "your so skinny" and the like. Everyone has different goals on this forum, some just want mass at any cost, others want to look like calvin kline adds and others just wanna be strong, remember, we all have our reasons. This forum is for self improvement, plain and simple everyone here is working towards a goal. I've spoken with john about cutting up before bulking anymore and he's making an honest effort to educate himself on the subject. He posted his pictures rather humbly and did not make an ass out of himself doing so. He said "here are my pictures" and he showed them. So what if he didnt show legs or stomach? He isnt applying for a job with his pics and there is no rules that say he has to show anything at all, nevermind full body shots. I'd expect a high posting member to be a little more curtious and condect themselves in a better manner, but I guess not.

I would I hope I won't see this kind of behaviour again, from ANYONE, nevermind frequent members.

It would be hard for me to improve on this comment any - except to say that if see more of these kind of attacks I will respond in kind

[yooo]

I know one thing...

At AR, the Mods and Vets are handpicked...unlike other forums, they actually have class!

[SMYL_GR8]

You know what, who cares? The guy is big, he has A LOT of muscle mass, plain and simple. Yes, he has a lot of bodyfat too, however that doesnt take away from the fact that he has a lot of muscle as well. I see people post pics of themselves and they're 140 soaking wet but have abs and people say "way to go bro! Looking good!" but no one says "your so skinny" and the like. Everyone has different goals on this forum, some just want mass at any cost, others want to look like calvin kline adds and others just wanna be strong, remember, we all have our reasons. This forum is for self improvement, plain and simple everyone here is working towards a goal. I've spoken with john about cutting up before bulking anymore and he's making an honest effort to educate himself on the subject. He posted his pictures rather humbly and did not make an ass out of himself doing so. He said "here are my pictures" and he showed them. So what if he didnt show legs or stomach? He isnt applying for a job with his pics and there is no rules that say he has to show anything at all, nevermind full body shots. I'd expect a high posting member to be a little more curtious and condect themselves in a better manner, but I guess not.

I would I hope I won't see this kind of behaviour again, from ANYONE, nevermind frequent members.

[BDTR]

BTW, messy I deleted your post with the "other" picture, if John wants people to see it on AR, then he can post it himself.

Lets try and act like adults here, ok?

[Rob]

good call.

[kaorialfred]

this thread did get off track pretty fast,
bigJon06 I wish you all the best in getting where you
want to be.

[toolman]

I agree with BDTR once in awhile. If a guy posts his pics, dont knock him or insult him. If you think he needs work in an area, ask him what his goals are. Like B said, some want to get huge. I am happy at 220 and am more into getting the leaner look. We all have different goals and should really only support eachother. Save the venom for the as*holes.

That said bigjohn nice work on the upper bod. Great mass. For me, health was the overall thing that got me back into working out 4 or more years ago. That said, work on the cardio. A big gut is a killer. Combined with the muscle mass you added, your heart is working overtime. What is your BP, do you moniter it? Being African descent, you are prone to high BP to begin with. Mine is what actually wnat got me back into the game as I was sporting a "slipped chest" as I liked to call it.

I say it not as a critic like some of the others, but as an old guy that lost his not too loing ago...weight in the middle is a killer. Really bad for the health and doesn't help your overall look. Hit that early morning cardio on an empty stomach and get the diet in check. The results will be more noticeable to anyone, far more than any mass you can add in addition to the great job you have done. Hit it with the same dedication, give up the food you know you should, and trust me you will be happier and feel healthier than you ever have.

Good luck bro!

[smegs]

i think im the size of his left trap

[SwoleCat]

That is what I would have thought myself.

I don't remember him being of that nature.

~SC~

[BigJon06]

Man, i go up to get my apt in DC and come back to TONS of posts.

Well err...

I know im not the most cut person in the world and thats cool, nor do i expect someone to gawk all over me either, comparing me to sean allen, ronnie etc (of course it does make me smile.. For the person who said i suck in my gut (Messy i think), trust me, yes im at a 42" waist which is big, but my gut has gone down from way over 50 to down to about 46, and plus my chest is about 58 so im realtively proportional. Messy, As i said several times in the thread, when I get my lower body (including midsection) in better condition, i'll be glad to show them off with out a problem. True im not trying to be chiseled, but more so thick and bulky, everyone has their goals, and thats just mine. My BP is 105/70 which is pretty good. Yes, im prone to it, as its on one side of my family, but on the same token, im the biggest person in my family, im 6'4, my dad is 5'9, mom 5'4, so go figure. No one in my family is even over 6" to begin with, so I'm already a strange creature in that sense. Let's just all get along, yeah, i want to be huge and I wont lie, but yeah, im working on cutting this BF down some, shoot, i'd probably look **** good at 15% for my build.
All in all, i know posting my pics will bring the compliments and the criticisms, but what is life with out the good and the bad?

And who's andre? (Im so lost on that issue)
and also, anyone who knows me, knows i dont have a reason to lie (ok, so i added 1 lb to my weight, oops)

Its all good with me. And any folk in Woodbridge, VA, holla at me, thats my new home. Maybe i'll see someone at the Golds there

Thanks all for the compliments (splinter, bigrob and the others, and those for the criticisms.)
This is great a thread and honestly, i'm surprised at how involved it got.

[Fat Guy]

Man, i go up to get my apt in DC and come back to TONS of posts.

Well err...

I know im not the most cut person in the world and thats cool, nor do i expect someone to gawk all over me either, comparing me to sean allen, ronnie etc (of course it does make me smile.. For the person who said i suck in my gut (Messy i think), trust me, yes im at a 42" waist which is big, but my gut has gone down from way over 50 to down to about 46, and plus my chest is about 58 so im realtively proportional. Messy, As i said several times in the thread, when I get my lower body (including midsection) in better condition, i'll be glad to show them off with out a problem. True im not trying to be chiseled, but more so thick and bulky, everyone has their goals, and thats just mine. My BP is 105/70 which is pretty good. Yes, im prone to it, as its on one side of my family, but on the same token, im the biggest person in my family, im 6'4, my dad is 5'9, mom 5'4, so go figure. No one in my family is even over 6" to begin with, so I'm already a strange creature in that sense. Let's just all get along, yeah, i want to be huge and I wont lie, but yeah, im working on cutting this BF down some, shoot, i'd probably look **** good at 15% for my build.
All in all, i know posting my pics will bring the compliments and the criticisms, but what is life with out the good and the bad?

And who's andre? (Im so lost on that issue)
and also, anyone who knows me, knows i dont have a reason to lie (ok, so i added 1 lb to my weight, oops)

Its all good with me. And any folk in Woodbridge, VA, holla at me, thats my new home. Maybe i'll see someone at the Golds there

Thanks all for the compliments (splinter, bigrob and the others, and those for the criticisms.)
This is great a thread and honestly, i'm surprised at how involved it got.

BigJon not only are you a big awesome dude, but you have a great attitude. Many of my friends are like you, over 6’ tall, that usually weighs over 280lbs and are the nicest people you could know. It is great to have you here. Do not listen to all the haters… jealousy is a mofo….and good luck with your goals.

[seanw]

BigJon not only are you a big awesome dude, but you have a great attitude. Many of my friends are like you, over 6’ tall, that usually weighs over 280lbs and are the nicest people you could know. It is great to have you here. Do not listen to all the haters… jealousy is a mofo….and good luck with your goals.

I agree. Welcome to the board big john. Awsome traps bro !!!! Good on you far having the courage to post your pics and good luck with your goals.