Prop/Tren/Mast

**Snrf** · 05-02-2007, 05:10 AM

Thats me in my avatar

**Dangerdan** · 05-02-2007, 10:04 AM

I know that your cycle isn't really the point of this thread so sorry if I'm off topic, but. . . how about a cycle update? Strength, weight gains? Bf change? New kind of lotion? Whats up?

**Haro3** · 05-02-2007, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Dangerdan

I know that your cycle isn't really the point of this thread so sorry if I'm off topic, but. . . how about a cycle update? Strength, weight gains? Bf change? New kind of lotion? Whats up?

lol it was the point of this thread

noticeable strength gains. my diet is pretty low cals right now and i THINK im losing bf but im not doing very much cardio at all right now.......definately getting pretty solid/hard feeling. anddddddddddd 700mg of test makes me wanna fvck anything with a hole in it lol jus to let u know...no measurement or weight changes really tho....oh have noticed more vascularity in my arms and even have a few in my delts now which i never had before....

**auslifta** · 05-02-2007, 07:16 PM

hows the diet going?you said low cals but can you elaberate

**king6** · 05-02-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by auslifta

hows the diet going?you said low cals but can you elaberate

+1, what are you wanting to acheive with the diet? Are you bulking, or going for a lean muscle build.

**Haro3** · 05-02-2007, 09:33 PM

im jus under maintenance i'm going to cut i just havent hit it really hard yet cuz of projects in school/finals etc havent been able to. but i will soon im going to cut majority of summer then lean bulk into nnext school year

**king6** · 05-03-2007, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

im jus under maintenance i'm going to cut i just havent hit it really hard yet cuz of projects in school/finals etc havent been able to. but i will soon im going to cut majority of summer then lean bulk into nnext school year

I take it you already have a third cycle planned out?

I'm jumping on the deca train for my third.

**Dangerdan** · 05-03-2007, 07:12 AM

Haro, are you running anything to protect against gyno with this cycle, Letro maybe?

**Haro3** · 05-03-2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Dangerdan

Haro, are you running anything to protect against gyno with this cycle, Letro maybe?

adex at .5mg ed jus cuz i got a lil sensitivity. i didnt buy anything for tren gyno tho.....

**Dangerdan** · 05-03-2007, 09:32 AM

I'm running adex with my tren too. I got a little concerned after hearing that so many people run letro with tren for gyno, but I guess I'll wait and see if I get any symptoms. I have some letro on hand just in case and nolvadex as well.

**Haro3** · 05-03-2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Dangerdan

I'm running adex with my tren too. I got a little concerned after hearing that so many people run letro with tren for gyno, but I guess I'll wait and see if I get any symptoms. I have some letro on hand just in case and nolvadex as well.

yea i've got nolva but im not real worried. oh if i didnt mention im hitting hcg two times a week right now too 500 each time

**king6** · 05-03-2007, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

yea i've got nolva but im not real worried. oh if i didnt mention im hitting hcg two times a week right now too 500 each time

How does that work? 500 IU would mean 5cc, and they are only 1cc syringes, so wouldn't you have to take 5 shots in one day? I'm sure that is not the case, but how are you doing it?

**Snrf** · 05-03-2007, 10:16 AM

nolva isn't good to run with a nor group I believe...something about it increases progesterone receptors? PM tai and ask him

**Haro3** · 05-03-2007, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

nolva isn't good to run with a nor group I believe...something about it increases progesterone receptors? PM tai and ask him

im not running it. i have it for pct etc

**chest6** · 05-03-2007, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

nolva isn't good to run with a nor group I believe...something about it increases progesterone receptors? PM tai and ask him

Yep..and

Dont run nolva with adex or letro

..But nolva can be ran with aromasin I believe..

Haro for now I'd just run 100mg B6 ED..no more than that. adex should be fine keeping estrogen low-ish

i'd grab some cabergoline but I know you're wary cuz that shit is WAY too expensive..until I find some powder of it I prolly wont get any...

**Haro3** · 05-03-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

Yep..and

Dont run nolva with adex or letro

..But nolva can be ran with aromasin I believe..

Haro for now I'd just run 100mg B6 ED..no more than that. adex should be fine keeping estrogen low-ish

i'd grab some cabergoline but I know you're wary cuz that shit is WAY too expensive..until I find some powder of it I prolly wont get any...

cabergoline = not an option

**Panzerfaust** · 05-03-2007, 09:33 PM

Updated pics?

Everything sounds good thus far.

**Haro3** · 05-03-2007, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by muriloninja

Updated pics?

Everything sounds good thus far.

eventually to busy right now. honestly dont look much different..i've dropped a couple pounds but you really cant see it..i can but i doubt pics would show it

**Panzerfaust** · 05-03-2007, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

eventually to busy right now. honestly dont look much different..i've dropped a couple pounds but you really cant see it..i can but i doubt pics would show it

Can you at least post a pic of your lotion, that should keep Chest satisfied for awhile.

**chest6** · 05-04-2007, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by muriloninja

Can you at least post a pic of your lotion, that should keep Chest satisfied for awhile.

mmmmmm dont worry...I see his lotion when I visit his room in the middle of the night

**king6** · 05-04-2007, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

mmmmmm dont worry....I see his lotion when I visit his room in the middle of the night

.

**Haro3** · 05-04-2007, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

mmmmmm dont worry...I see his lotion when I visit his room in the middle of the night

santa? is that you

**MFT81** · 05-04-2007, 01:20 PM

Man, so this is where all the cool kids have been hanging out, I just found this thread,

1. Haro, if your really worried bout the left lat, try doing 1 arm pulldowns on a cable station using a D-handle. Just kneel down on one knee and pull down and back to work each side in***endently, these work great after pullups or heavy pulldowns for a solid pump

2. Your freind/prev partner on BB.com Looks/Looked awesome, Love to look similar to that someday!, but first I got to get caught up to you bro!.

good log, ill stay posted.

**Haro3** · 05-04-2007, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by MFT81

Man, so this is where all the cool kids have been hanging out, I just found this thread,

1. Haro, if your really worried bout the left lat, try doing 1 arm pulldowns on a cable station using a D-handle. Just kneel down on one knee and pull down and back to work each side in***endently, these work great after pullups or heavy pulldowns for a solid pump

2. Your freind/prev partner on BB.com Looks/Looked awesome, Love to look similar to that someday!, but first I got to get caught up to you bro!.

good log, ill stay posted.

cool

i read a post of yours the other day seems like we have similar stats......

**getpaid** · 05-04-2007, 03:29 PM

How are your pumps thus far? Are you starting to feel like superman or what?
(Stregnth gains, soft skin?)

**Haro3** · 05-04-2007, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by getpaid

How are your pumps thus far? Are you starting to feel like superman or what?
(Stregnth gains, soft skin?)

dude actually the g/f has said multiple times in the past two weeks my skin is softer i cant tell tho......i didnt know that was a side.

strength is stilll going up nothing crazy tho but im on a calorie deficit so im not planning on getting strong.

i dont believe in roid rage etc but i will say im significantly more irretable lately....

and i have a few zits on my shoulders/back maybeeeeeee 10 at most but they are big deep painful ones ....i dont get acne at all so i know what its from...

**getpaid** · 05-04-2007, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

dude actually the g/f has said multiple times in the past two weeks my skin is softer i cant tell tho......i didnt know that was a side.

strength is stilll going up nothing crazy tho but im on a calorie deficit so im not planning on getting strong.

i dont believe in roid rage etc but i will say im significantly more irretable lately....

and i have a few zits on my shoulders/back maybeeeeeee 10 at most but they are big deep painful ones ....i dont get acne at all so i know what its from...

Yeah I think the soft skin is a side of using a lot of lotion!!! LOL
I start my cycle on Mon. and I am definetly not looking forward to the zits. Oh well you have to take the good w/ the bad sometimes...
What about fat loss, any difference?

**MFT81** · 05-04-2007, 03:28 PM

^^ yeah but im still natty though, youve got me beat on muscle density I think.

**chest6** · 05-04-2007, 11:50 PM

yep u got it...

Have you started the HCG yet??

**Haro3** · 05-06-2007, 11:35 PM

yea started last week

shot my right delt two nights ago, must have shot a lil to low cuz the knot is in my bicep and it fvckin HURTS! arm is swollen and shit...no good

gained some weight this weekend lol i ate horrible buttttt its ok im starting a "body recomposition program" that nark has written for me. includes diet and a new approach to my training.

i'll start a thread on his boards to monitor the progress of his consultation but i will keep everyone informed on the cycle on this board. I'll post a link to the other thread when i start it should be tomorrow it will most likely be more detailed if anyone wishes to follow it.

however the diet and training wont be posted my progress and pictures will be. the goal of the recomp is to possibly gain lbm while dropping to around 10% bf. i've never cut before and i wanted to make sure i did it correctly so nark is helping me out.

**king6** · 05-07-2007, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

yea started last week

shot my right delt two nights ago, must have shot a lil to low cuz the knot is in my bicep and it fvckin HURTS! arm is swollen and shit...no good

gained some weight this weekend lol i ate horrible buttttt its ok im starting a "body recomposition program" that nark has written for me. includes diet and a new approach to my training.

i'll start a thread on his boards to monitor the progress of his consultation but i will keep everyone informed on the cycle on this board. I'll post a link to the other thread when i start it should be tomorrow it will most likely be more detailed if anyone wishes to follow it.

however the diet and training wont be posted my progress and pictures will be. the goal of the recomp is to possibly gain lbm while dropping to around 10% bf. i've never cut before and i wanted to make sure i did it correctly so nark is helping me out.

I'd ne interested in following that, it is the perfect cycle to do it with too.

**Dangerdan** · 05-06-2007, 11:47 PM

Looks like a good plan Haro; I'll be keeping an eye on this.

**chest6** · 05-07-2007, 12:55 AM

If I never cut I'd be about 25% bodyfat by now

Looks good tho..

**ironaddict69** · 05-07-2007, 03:10 AM

haro let me know if the joint pain kicks in from the masteron. fvck its killing me.

**Haro3** · 05-08-2007, 01:44 PM

http://corey-narkissos-springer.com/...hp?topic=506.0

link to my "recomposition" thread on Narks board. he is my consultant so i'm keeping a log on his site if you wish to comment feel free you jus gotta join the forum, i know alot of guys from AR already have....although if you do post im keeping AAS discussion out of the thread so please dont comment on cycles, i'll keep cycle up dates in this log.

**getpaid** · 05-08-2007, 02:18 PM

Good $hit!!!
I am going to follow your lead on this one as I am pretty much doing the same exact cycle and want to accomplish the same goals...Keep us posted!!

**The Legend** · 05-08-2007, 03:38 PM

ahhh i was suppose to do the same cycle, ended up cyp, mast, eq, have tren but ima wait on it or kick it in the 2nd half

**Haro3** · 05-08-2007, 11:31 PM

gettin paranoid about gyno bumped my adex to 1mg ed and got some b-6 to help with prolactin...gonna order some letro tho i think the hcg may have induced gyno cuz my left nip is definately puffy/sensitive...........

**king6** · 05-09-2007, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

gettin paranoid about gyno bumped my adex to 1mg ed and got some b-6 to help with prolactin...gonna order some letro tho i think the hcg may have induced gyno cuz my left nip is definately puffy/sensitive...........

HCG definitely has the ability to do so, but I thought it was only a factor above 2,000IU per week. And I thought you were doing 1,000IU, but maybe you are sensitive to it. I would go with the letro for sure, that stuff works wonders, little hard on the ol sex drive, but you have test.

**Haro3** · 05-09-2007, 12:58 PM

dunno hopefully i get some letro soon im waitin on a friend to make an order

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