My DNP Log

[peteroy01]

think about it. you took 500mg of DNP for 3wks. and after 10days off you should have lost a minimum of 10lb by now. Tbol isnt going to put 10lb of water weight on you in 4 days. Anadrol doesnt even put that much weight on a person in that amount of time. i admit that ive never ran Tbol but all the literature ive read indicates its much like var. little to no water retention with a hard dry look. but i have no idea why you havent lost any weight unless your diet really sucked that hard. and thats saying a lot @500mg DNP ed.

[jc95605]

Not i lost it but gained some. I started at 172 and i was down at 164 with the water weight. I say that because I was 164 the day after i stopped taking the DNP so obviosuly the water weight was still on. About 2 days later i started the tbol right about the time it should have come off. So you see how its cutting it kinda close. I lost about 10lbs with this cycle of DNP. When I stopped the taking the DNP i also stopped clen. So it was a kinda sudden halt. I'm thinking part of the reason i gained a few pounds is because i started tbol and the other part is because i stopped clen and the DNP at the same time. Normally I'd keep the clen going but i wanted to take a week off like you said to reboot my receptors. I've said in the beginning of this thread that i respond well to clen i bet its the same when i stop it. Nevertheless we'll figure it out around the end of the week. I plan on restarting clen wednesday. Anyway thats what i'm thinking, like i said i'm gonna research more about the tbol, but yes i agree with you as far as that hard dry look. I definately have that now. I'll keep you posted.

Also since you seem to know a few things about "stimulants" (for lack of a better term) which you think is better to run ephedra or clen. Right now i'm leaning towards ephedra. On the steroid profile that you mentioned, it also said that clen can reduce the effects of steroids. However, later in the same article it claims that clen can help build muscle. Isn't that kinda bittersweet. I'm assuming i'm not understanding it right so i'm gonna read it again. The last thing i want is to reduce my tbol results. What you think?

[peteroy01]

stims- personally i feel run down and tired running clen. probably cause it burns more cals vs ephedra. but since i started taking ephedra a few days ago i feel awesome on DNP now. i sweat like a fat kid in a buffet but i still have energy. now clen has the sides of a bad azz stim cause of the shaking hands, and jitteriness...... but as for actual energy i would go with ephedra. also i "think" the reason why some claim clen effects negatively on AAS is because its burning through Cals which would be better used for growth. its hard to be anabolic when your in a cal deficient atmosphere. O and clen can be anabolic in rats but from what i can remember it seems the dose required for humans is insane. sorry if this doesnt make any since, i just woke up.

[jc95605]

Well see therein lies the problem. I wanna get dry lean mass. I would think for a cycle like i'm doing (tbol+methyl1d & HGH) clen would be ok. However if i was doing a cycle of dbol for example i would lean more towards ephedra or maybe none actually. AAS's like Dbol seem to put on crazy size and strenght so i think a stim wouldn't be right for that cycle, which is the opposite of what i'm doing. But ya I think I would be ok running clen with my cycle. What do you think?

[Jay-Ace]

I think this isn't a DNP log anymore, move on dude and get some proper advice about your "technique".

The DNP course sucked, we all know that but hopefully you've picked up some pointers along the way to make your next course more successful.

One point to mention.....

Anyone in the UK who is reading this, DO NOT buy Benadryl to try and up regulate your beat receptors as the UK version of Benadryl doesn't contain Dipheyhydramine. Instead pop into Boots and go to the counter asking for a box of Sleep-eze... That's just the stuff you need and it's proper cheap too :-)

[jc95605]

I actually agree with you this time Jay-Ace, lol. I want to take this time to thank everybodys input/opinions, even yours Jay. Now reguarding recent events (this is mostly for you peteroy). Recently in the latest entries of the log i've been going up in weight pretty fast. While Jay-Ace is saying the cycle sucked I do agree with him to a certain extent. The was cycle was moderately successful to my own fault. Recapping the first half of the cycle my diet wasn't as good as it could have been. When I later changed my diet up, my weight started to slowly move down again, after a few day stall. If I would have been dieting like that in the begining I probably could have lost another 5lbs. Now to after the cycle. Recently peteroy and I have been talking about how my water weight hasn't come off. Well peteroy I think I figured out why! Like I said earlier in the log immediately after I finish my DNP cycle I wanted to start my tbol cycle, and I did. The very next day I started tbol, although I think in the log I said I waited a day which was just bad math on my part; (sry about that i'm still learning to count I guess). Anyway the lab that I got my tbol from has been suspected of selling low dose Dbol instead of Tbol. Some of us already know that dbol has alot of water weight that you add real fast in the dbol cycle. The last day of my DNP cycle I finally got the flat stomach that I always wanted, however, 2 days later not so flat. I now know it was because the "tbol" in fact was dbol and the water weight was already adding on! So not only did I not get rid of my DNP water weight, but now i'm adding water weight from the dbol! I can't win! Yesterday at the gym I weighed in at 172, thats an 8lb jump from the last day of the DNP cycle. Keep in mind on that last day I still had about 3lbs of water weight. If I would have waited between cycles, I know my weight would have went down to 161, but hey now we know. So yes i'm very disappointed with this "mystery pill" because it really screwed up my cycles, and my stomach! I just wanted to update everybody on what was going on after the DNP cycle. It seemed like peteroy was curious about what my weight would be after the water weight fell off, and believe me i was anxiously waiting that too! Guess we'll never know. If you want to see this mystery pill or see what others think about the "tbol" that I got I included the link to my thread about it. If you want to add anything or ask a question please pm me. This will be my last entry. Thanks again for everything.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=343298