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Theres a lot of big guys that lift light at my gym, theres one dude that seems to only do 50kg incline bench and light flyes for bench, but hes pretty large, and he used to compete. He is old though and most of the guys like him are also old, I guess muscle maturity and awesome diet is enough to keep mass when you have been training for that long. There is one old guy that is insanely big, got a bit of a stomach, but must be nearing 60 and is rocking at least 19 inch guns at about 5'8.
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Simple answer really...he is doing the movement properly whereas you aren't and I would alsmot bet on that.
It's not about the weight, its about targeting the muscle and breaking that tissue down. You will end up injured one day, trust me and probaly **** up your tendons.
Last edited by Panzerfaust; 07-10-2008 at 12:28 PM.
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Strength training is retarded, whats the point unless you compete in bench, dead, squat, whatever competitions....What so you can come on this discussion board and post your stats and feel awesome, or hey maybe it helps you get laid, I bet girls panties just fall off when you tell them how much you bench (like they give a rats ass). I love watching these guys in my gym that come in and do the exact same routine every week, and there lifts do increase, but for some odd reason, there physiques are pathetic and they never get any better, hmmm i wonder why. Just my two cents, but I would rather lift to gain mass or to retain muscle (depending on what your goals at the time are) than lift to show off for an hour in the gym. Strength will come as a by-product of growth and muscle-maturity, you dont have to lift specifically for it, all that is is muscle memory.
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Spoken like a true wearer of a XXSMALL sleeveless tshirt at the club. What a stupid statement and one of the dumbest I've read on this or any other forum!Originally Posted by abbot138
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Ahhh you must be a powerlifter.....And yeah you got me dude, I love me some clubbing, thats all I do actually, I dont really even lift, I just run deca cycles in the winter and winny cycles in the summer so I can get RIPPED....Blow me chief, make sure you know someone before you pass judgement on them.
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Yes I'm a powerlifter and competitive strongman and I choose to surround myself with real athletes not narcissitic little punks who just want to look the part! I don't knock anyone who lifts weights to better themselves, they don't have to be a top level athlete like myself but looking the part is just as fake. Its guys like you that suffer from manorexia. 150lbs and ripped isn't muscular! Any 15yr old kid can do that! Put some weight on the bar chump and grow for real!
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Yup, not 150 and I do put weight on the bar chump....Funny I was thinking that anyone could just bulk non-stop eat their ass off and eventually get to 300lbs. I'd love to do that, sounds great to me. And again if you go back to my post you will see that I said, UNLESS you are a powerlifter (or professional athlete I should have added), you dont need to lift for strength. If thats your thing, then great, I didnt mean to knock you for it, and I do apologize for coming off that way. For my goals and what Im trying to accomplish I'd rather use reasonable weight and stay in the 8-10 rep range. But stop flaming on me and making false statements about me guy, I have not once in this thread flamed on you, or made any personal remarks about you, bc I dont know you personally. I stated my opinions about lifting for strength, it is an open forum and Im entitled to do so....Im not 150 lbs, I dont have 15 inch arms, or a 30 inch chest, I dont wear xxxsmall tshirts, and I dont go to clubs. You dont know me, so stop acting like you do.
Last edited by abbot138; 07-11-2008 at 07:26 AM.
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Back to the original question that you asked. Who cares how much weight they are lifting, their big your not so big who really cares. Frank Zane was one of the most symetric pro's, his figure although not so massive was fantastic, and you would never see him db curl more than 45's ever. Some peoples genetics respond differently to different types of weight training. On the other side look at how Jay Cutler lifts. Almost looks sloppy and having no control, almost throwing around the weights and he is massive. Also helps he's a genetic freek! All i am saying is whatever it takes to get your muscles to respond per individual thats what you should do. It takes years for guys to figure out what works best for their bodies. I will say this though i can move some weight but when i db curl 65's my body is swingin like a MF. So thats why you are getting the response you are about the 80's. Hope you figure it out bro!!
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So your a landscaper??? Still no intelligent person would move the 400lb log on their back they would simply cut it into smaller pieces. Im still calling bs on the entire thing, I notice there is still no video...
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1. Who Cares.
2. No you cant.
3. Who cares.
4. Wow.
5. Not everyone works at a desk.
Sorry dude, just came off as arrogant and ignorant.
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The Ultimate Warrior was the shiiiiiiitttt! Sorry, but it was worth the high jack.
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He was the Sh%T i agree!!!!!
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wheres the video? MWAHAHAHA you are trying desperatly to make fake 80lb dumbells arnt you?
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I don't get it. You're 5'10, 200lbs, can curl 80lb dumbells, carry 3-400lb logs onyour back, and only eat 1200 kcal a day, while being hypoglycemic? Something just doesn't add up.
Last edited by bulldawg_28; 07-10-2008 at 06:25 PM.
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you sir are correct...the math just doesnt add up....
i feel so left up maybe i should put up my stats too...
6'
300lbs
12%
national qualified competetior
405 for 8 on bench
405 for 6 on front squats
600+ for 6 on deads
but i cant curl 80's not even fukin close...hell last week i got the 70's for 5 a side and my form was ok at best, so at 80's i would look horendous...not saying you cant but if you look at the quote i highlighted above something just doesnt add up bro...
as for your why do big guys lift light weight??? well first, who gives a fuk...seriously...second...i do a lot of work with light weights for lots of reasons...i dont wanna get hurt, i am at the end of my work out, i like to mix up all my workouts and confuse my body, im fukin lazy sometimes, some muscles are built better doing high reps and light weight i aint gonna do tricep kickbacks with the 80's, maybe i am competing soon so i am trying to focus on definition....hope this answers why some big guys do it....i would love Pinnacle to come in here and answer this...he might get banned though...hahahaha...
just do what works for you and dont fukin worry about what anyone else is doing, it aint gonna help you one bit....
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you sir are correct...the math just doesnt add up....
i feel so left up maybe i should put up my stats too...
6'
300lbs
12%
national qualified competetior
405 for 8 on bench
405 for 6 on front squats
600+ for 6 on deads
but i cant curl 80's not even fukin close...hell last week i got the 70's for 5 a side and my form was ok at best, so at 80's i would look horendous...not saying you cant but if you look at the quote i highlighted above something just doesnt add up bro...
as for your why do big guys lift light weight??? well first, who gives a fuk...seriously...second...i do a lot of work with light weights for lots of reasons...i dont wanna get hurt, i am at the end of my work out, i like to mix up all my workouts and confuse my body, im fukin lazy sometimes
just do what works for you and dont fukin worry about what anyone else is doing, it aint gonna help you one bit....
Yeah dude. People worry about and watch others too much. People have different goals for different reasons....who gives a flying ****?!?!?!
****ing get in the gym. Do work. Get out.
Who gives a **** about some stranger lifting weights....
If it bothers you, why dont you ask him???
lmao @ Pinn!!!
Wheres his fat ass?!?!
haha 5 pages of crap....let me get some popcorn
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i see guys in the gym doing SO much weight. like...fuktonnes. 3 plates.
yet they are fat, or their development isnt so great.... i do less than most, but i have already surpassed people that have been there 6yrs+ apposed to my 3yrs.
though, different training will work for different people. i just doing see the point of the whole tossing shit around...
as for "the weight goes up, the weight goes down, i see no difference" attitude - wrong.
most let gravity do half the work on the way down. that's some good resistance and a great way to train. why let gravity or half assing it ruin half the exercise?
i know if i half ass it and not do proper form/control up AND down the whole rep, i don't get nearly quite the pump/hit like if i do extremely clean reps.
anyone can toss around weight. i guess it makes their penis bigger.
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Grr! World's Strongest Man here. You are so strong man, pound for pound champ, there man, is that what you wanted to hear?
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"Unlike bigfoot, I have seen one of you and wish you would post a video just to show everyone you can."
I think that sums it up. Freaky strength obviously exists. Why not? Look at pro football players abilities. I went to highschool with Brian Scott, the falcons safety. He has a lean build and even before he touched a weight he could easily embarass most peoples lifting numbers.
Still, I want to see the video...
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That could be taken so many different ways
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And dont put me in the same category as the idiot that started this thread.....If you notice in my post I said, UNLESS you are a powerlifter and compete in powerlifting or strongman competitions, it is useless to train for strength.
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Wether he can curl 80's or not isnt important to me. I just thought it was silly to see a guy lifting a weight, make a judgement about him based on what you see without knowing his routine for the day/week, and then caring about it.
Maybe they are coming back from an injury, maybe they just lifted the heavy weight and are burning it out. If he's big good for him.
If you are way stronger than everyone and you run around with 500 lbs logs, good for you.
Why do rich people sometimes spend small amounts of money?
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As for abbot, you sound angry and ignorant. Does that make ME a power lifter? Then you jump on guys doing the same routine every week. What business of it is yours? Why are you watching people to the point where you know their routine when you could put more effort into your own? How do you know the guy isnt getting results? Are you weighing and measuring him? I hope no-one knows my routine, that would be a little fruity.
You jumped on people for judging you, after making dumb prejudiced statements about others, and by prejudiced, I mean like the definition. To pre-judge. And then you call the OTHER guy an idiot? IDIOT FIGHT!
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Basicly, sounds like a bunch of people hating on others. You both give body-builders, power lifters, xxsmall shirt wearers, lumberjacks,
Americans, and retards, all a bad name.
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Your absolutely right and I apologize for coming off like that....Different strokes for different folks. I am very opinionated and I tend to let my emotions get the best of me when expressing my opinion, and I forgot that not every shares my same views....And I dont pay attention to what other people do in the gym, I put my head down, lift and do my thing, get in and get out, its just hard not to notice when youve been at the same gym for 5 years and someone does the same routine on every day of the week and looks the saem they did 5 years ago.....Again, I would like to apologize for pre-judging, thats not who I am. I dont appreciate being personally attacked by someone who knows nothing about me, and I should know better than to do the same to someone else. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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Dude, I feel ya. Ive gone to the same gym since '99. You cant help but notice people after a decade.
I just have this personal philosophy. If I see a fat-ass guy working out around me, I smile, give the head nod, and try to make them feel comfortable around me so they can better their lives. If I see a skinny **** benching the bar, I do the same as to make them feel comfortable.
Everyone has to start somewhere. I could be maimed in a car accident today and then you guys would be "watching my routine" for the rest of my life making fun of me.
The only time I "watch people", is maybe if a huge dude is doing bent over rows, I may check their form to better mine, for example. Or if some big dude tries to mean mug me, THEY GET EYE DOMINATED.
Besides, we have to get our civilian population in shape for the great human-robot wars of 2050.
(p.s., in my decade of going to the same gym, I probably gained 40 lbs. Not a shit ton for 9 years I know, but I am stronger, healthier, more confident, more educated about my body. In that time I had a kid, lost some jobs, had a divorce, you know, things to make you take time off. However, according to some people, I guess I shouldnt have even bothered huh?)
Last edited by Diary of a Mad-man; 07-11-2008 at 08:36 AM.
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LMAO!!!! Duuuude, Im gonna be ready for that robot war, I dont care how old I am, Im gonna bust some robot ass, lol!!!! And your right, everyone does have to start somewhere, and I do try to be that guy that is humble and friendly at the gym towards everyone, whether they are bigger than me, smaller than me, fatter than me, more ripped than me. I actually love it when I see a skinny young kid go over and do some real light weight dead lifts, and I can tell they feel self-conscious about it, but like I told this kid the other night, "hey at least your doing them , thats more than I can say for most people your age, your way ahead of the game." Bottom line, i wayyyyy misrepresented myself, and I didnt want anyone to get the wrong idea...I LOVE EVERYONE!!!! Except for the robots, mother fvckin robots!
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I know a natural freak aswell with no cycle experience. He's been in the gym for little over a year and can bench about 350, squat 350 and dead 400. He can't curl any 80's or carry 400lb logs but he's a genetic freak none the less. He trains like a body builder too, not for strength.
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I'd do her
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Now here is jsinur7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQjD0RRit4s
I'm just playing bro...
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... then she could return the favor by bending you over and doin you back.
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niceeeee
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Whatever skippy , bodybuilder chicks are pretty wild
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im just sayin... im pretty sure she has a penis... so whatever...
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haha this thread has really hit a nerve with people lol some people are getting angry. Weight training has alot of different purposes to increase muscle, reduce fat , increase strength to name a few. All these are legitimate and if you wanna train to get bigger and concentrate on form then thats good and on the other hand some people want to increase the functional amount of weight they lift. I think he key to putting on muscle is to constantly change between certain training types.
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Why are you watching other guys in the gym anyway? That's why they started putting tv's in gyms...so people who like to watch can watch tv. keep the focuss on yourself and you'll go alot further..don't worry about what everyone else does.
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He is making baby steps.....
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haha....probablyHe is making baby steps.....
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Anyone see the movie VisionQuest? Its all about training and wrestling. The state champ 'shoot' runs up and down the bleachers with a log on his back. I wonder how much he can curl?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BiC3...eature=related
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That kind of don't worry what other people think is the kinda talk obese people use lol
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