please help!

[SonnySchraal]

Hi, I'm sonny and i'm new on this site.
I have read a lot! But still i have a very simple question.
Let's say:
Me and my boyfriend have a normal body, not big and not small.
he allready used two winstroll and one deca.
He grew up and stayed like that. this is about one year ago.
I'm going now to the gym for 7 months, pretty intense. and yes i grew up a little. But i want to get bigger. Get a nice chest and some nice arms.
He recommended me to use deca. Because this is one of the less heavier steroids.

I know you need to go 2 years to the gym etc etc. but if i would like to take them now. What would you recommend. And about the side effects. can they really be taken away that i wont have any physical problems now or in the future?

Right now i am 20 years old. I have stopped growing. but to make sure i will take Growth Hormone first. that's what a doctor told me to do. But he didnt want to inform me more about steroids because they are evil according to him.

I don't want to become a bodybuilder. Just a nice chest, some abs and bigger arms... Please help me!!

thanks,
Sonny
I hope someone can tell me more.

[WARMachine]

1) You have not read nearly enough.
2) Winny and Deca alone is a terrible cycle. Deca is not a "less heavier" steroid.
3) Im sure you love your BF very much, but he is a moron. Deca only is a terrible idea, especaily for a first time user.
4) Youve only been working out for 7months.
5) 20 years old is too young, especialy for someone who has never lifted and doesnt know a thing about AAS

I hope ive been helpful...

Also, it helps when you ask a question to include these things in your thread.

height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day (include how much your food weighs and macros)
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[stallion_1]

1. are u gay? or are u a girl?
2. hgh wont make u taller since ur bones are already done growing up
3.deca only and winny only are bad choices

[SonnySchraal]

Oke, but why did his body grew up beautiful and he didnt had any side effects.
Is that luck or will he see these side effects soon.
btw moron is kind of rough dont u think.. Maybe bad informed (I)!
he didnt use them as a combination. he first used 2 of winstrol and after 1 of the deca.

I told you my goal.
I am in mts: 178cm, 65kg I eat eggs in the morning, chicken in the afternoon and checken in the evening. After the gym i take the carbshakes and creatine.

I don't have cycle experience. like i said. I would like some straight info. Because english isn't my language, it's sometimes pretty hard to understand.

thank you!!

[WARMachine]

Oke, but why did his body grew up beautiful and he didnt had any side effects.
Is that luck or will he see these side effects soon.
btw moron is kind of rough dont u think.. Maybe bad informed (I)!
he didnt use them as a combination. he first used 2 of winstrol and after 1 of the deca.

I told you my goal.
I am in mts: 178cm, 65kg I eat eggs in the morning, chicken in the afternoon and checken in the evening. After the gym i take the carbshakes and creatine.

I don't have cycle experience. like i said. I would like some straight info. Because english isn't my language, it's sometimes pretty hard to understand.

thank you!!

No moron isnt a rough word in this particular case...

Youre diet is the problem here. Your not eating nearly enough, and you have to be more specific when describing your diet.

[SonnySchraal]

i am a gay haha no girl. Sorry.

[WARMachine]

Why is #1 relevent to you? HMM...




Im you know Stallion...

I hope hes gay, cause if some guy is advising Deca for a female, he should be shot...

[stallion_1]

no, im not gay

i was just wondering.

i like pvssy

[WARMachine]

no, im not gay

i was just wondering.

i like pvssy

No kidding? Me too...

[Nitro29]

I hope hes gay,

I bet you do.

[DSM4Life]

I bet you do.

[Nitro29]

DSM,

You have a good sense of humor! No thin skin on you, glad you liked my attempt at humor. I'm hit or miss on that but I try

Nitro

[stallion_1]

DSM,

You have a good sense of humor! No thin skin on you, glad you liked my attempt at humor. I'm hit or miss on that but I try

Nitro

lol ya that was funny

the "i bet u do" bit

[DSM4Life]

DSM,

You have a good sense of humor! No thin skin on you, glad you liked my attempt at humor. I'm hit or miss on that but I try

Nitro

With the crew i grew up with , if you had thin skin you were chewed up and spit out pretty quick. Having a good sense of humor also helps.

[SonnySchraal]

okee.. and now some help please..:P

[WARMachine]

S.O.B.

[SonnySchraal]

really, you are not helping me...

[stallion_1]

really, you are not helping me...

what are ur stats body

age
weight
bf%
and where are u from

[Nitro29]

lol!


Your diet sucks, you need to check out the diet section sonny...Nitro

[SonnySchraal]

i am 20 years,
65 kgs
178cm
body fat is very low, i dont now exactly how much.
and im from mexico

[stallion_1]

ur from mexico and u speak fluent english??
is ur name really sonny??

ive never met any mexican people with names like those.

nevertheless, im pretty sure ur problem is diet.
ur not eating a lot.
u can use steroids, but if u dont eat a lot to support ur new gains u will lose all the gains. diet must be ur first priority without diet steroids wont work

may i suggest u educate urself more and develop a good diet and then try steroids, that way ull grow like ur partner.

for a first cycle, ill recomment dbol with some test enanthate. dont use deca or else u wont be able to play sword fighting with ur partner. lol

[WARMachine]

So youre 5'8 and 143lbs


nice!

Your problem is one that can be solved by diet, not gear...

Read these:

Diet Help
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355744

Diet Section
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Choosing Diets
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

[SonnySchraal]

ok, so with diet it can be solved. but will it be bad if i want to use the gear. because then it will go faster right?

for example one box of testosteron

[SonnySchraal]

hahahaha thnk you.

oke, i will check will check some diets.. what are good here on the diet polls..

with the dbol with test enanthate. what do i need for the side effects?

btw. i am dutch, but i live here in mexico 4 one year...

[stallion_1]

hahahaha thnk you.

oke, i will check will check some diets.. what are good here on the diet polls..

with the dbol with test enanthate. what do i need for the side effects?

btw. i am dutch, but i live here in mexico 4 one year...

why are u living in mexico??


isnt dutchland a better country??

[WARMachine]

Yes, it will be bad... You will not gain very much, and what you do gain, you will lose. More than likely you are still learning to lift if you take AAS, you'll end up hurting yourself...

You need to gain about 15kilos of lean muscle naturaly before thinking about AAS.

DO NOT TAKE AAS!

[WARMachine]

Dutchland? What are you infering about Mexico?

You racist pig...

[WARMachine]

The Dutch are from Holland aka the Netherlands...

Im Stallion...


BTW, this has gone so FAR

[stallion_1]

The Dutch are from Holland aka the Netherlands...

Im Stallion...


BTW, this has gone so FAR

chill bro, go with 189

i wanna know why people do the things that they do. for instance move from holland to mexico.

[SonnySchraal]

dutchland = the netherlands.
and yeah the netherlands are better.. But was here on a internship and now for my bf .. till february.

Next question. How do i check my weight of lean muscle?

[WARMachine]

dutchland = the netherlands.
and yeah the netherlands are better.. But was here on a internship and now for my bf .. till february.

Next question. How do i check my weight of lean muscle?

A better idea would be to check your body fat %

[stallion_1]

dutchland = the netherlands.
and yeah the netherlands are better.. But was here on a internship and now for my bf .. till february.

Next question. How do i check my weight of lean muscle?

u need to measure ur bf % first, then do simple math to get ur lean muscle weight.

[Nitro29]

Cuz Mexican vet gear rocks

[SonnySchraal]

So if i keep on going to the gym, making the same excercise i do now... and maybe a little more. and obviously every day. and take1 testosteron with dbol. just to have a little bit a bigger chest. It will effect me bad and i will los it fast? even if i keep on going to the gym good after and keep on following my diet.

[stallion_1]

u will not lose it if u have ur diet in check and do post cycle.
by the way u dont take 1 testosterone as u put it. u do a cycle and inject several testosterone ampules throughout the course of the cycle.

by the way dont take deca or u wont be able to play sword fighting with ur mate.

[widowmaker2]

u will not lose it if u have ur diet in check and do post cycle.
by the way u dont take 1 testosterone as u put it. u do a cycle and inject several testosterone ampules throughout the course of the cycle.

by the way dont take deca or u wont be able to play sword fighting with ur mate.

i havent laughed this hard reading a thread in a long time...

beep..i-am-an-optomitron droid- my name is sonny- if a take one testosterone and one d bol i will get bigger chest.. beep.

[stallion_1]

i havent laughed this hard reading a thread in a long time...

beep..i-am-an-optomitron droid- my name is sonny- if a take one testosterone and one d bol i will get bigger chest.. beep.

beep, oh my god

that is so ****ing hilarious, dude u just craked me up

the beep bit is awesome

[SonnySchraal]

beep, oh my god

that is so ****ing hilarious, dude u just craked me up

i never said that.... it's funny though..:P

[SonnySchraal]

how do i get my bf % ? :$

[WARMachine]

YOUR CURRENT DIET SUCKS!

Im sorry but if youre not gonna listen to the advice were giving, then stop posting the same questions..

I know this isnt what you wanna hear, but taking that is a bad idea, and no one in their right mind is gonna say otherwise!


Go to your gym and ask them to measure it for you... Ask them for a caliper...