Guys i really really need help

[Maytag]

i like to go two on one off...thats has always given me enough time to recover

im gonna be competing in Musclemania this April....i'll post some pre contest pics in a few months.....im currently adjusting my diet for my cutting phase right now

need any tips making massive gains naturally just PM me bud GET SOME HELP with your problems ....admit to your mistakes and cut your loss...don't keep all this stuff to yourself, you're not a doctor

[Mikeygas14]

i eat, egg whites, oatmeal, turkey sandwichs, fruit, veggies, chicken, milk, all those, i have one free day a week, i run 3x a week and lift Mon chest.tri's wed bi's/back fri abs/shoulders...yeah im gonna go , i wanna a cutting diet while still trying to add lean muscle or preserve what i have at least, im gonna go to the ugent control room tommorow and see what they say hopefulyl somebody there knows what they are talking about this time...all in all i will prob never juice again ..my hair is soo thin its gross i can;t stand it and i got nothing out of it, im still fucking chubby

[Commando_Barbi]

Mikey...check your PMs

[Mikeygas14]

OK well i just spent 5 hours in the urgent control, the doctor said that there is no way that i did any damage to my pituitary, kindeys and liver, on, the endocrinolgist said the same thing that i didn;t do damgage, they saw no matter what its all temporary, and they wanan see me again in one week, they drew more blood and they are gonna test TSH and prolactin, other than that they said im fine, they dontl think i shoudl do anymore more obvsiouly, but im not gonan fuckign die thanks fro scaring me, there is no way i would die, because my hair is falling otu and my nipples are lacatign

[Commando_Barbi]

Mikey - I am glad you finally went to get help. The thing is....no one on this board can sit here read your symptoms and know 100% what is wrong with you. The only way to know for sure was for you to go to the RIGHT doctors and get the RIGHT tests done. Dying was the worst case scenerio. No one wanted to see that. Don't get pissed...be glad that the guys on this board cared enough to bitch your ass out until you finally went.

I hope your tests all come out ok and you learn a good lesson from all this. As far as your hair goes.....shave it off. Maybe it won't look so bad and maybe when it comes back it will be a little thicker?

Hang in there and listen to your DOC's.

C.B.

[D_BEAR]

IM GLAD YOU SEEN THE DOCTORS
IM GLAD YOUR DOIN BETTER
I AM SORRY FOR TRYIN TO SCARE YOU BUT WE CAN DO NOTHING
FOR YOU EXCEPT TRY TO SCARE YOU INTO GOIN TO THE DOCTORS IM SO GLAD YOU GOIN TO BE FINE
if you want some tips on gainin natural i'll do my best to help
just thank god your ok later mike

[Red Ketchup]

Mikeygas14 ... I'm also glad to hear you'll be ok. Hope the bloodwork comes out fine too.

By the way, remember... none of us are doctors, but the guys and gals on this board have a LOT of experience (good and bad) with gear. We're all here to help each other, and that includes you. There is as LOT of caring and compassion here.

Just look at the people who respond to the (almost daily!) new threads of "hi I'm (insert age between 15 and 20) years old and I want to start steroids". The same people repeating the same things over and over, trying to steer the young folks away from steroids. At first I would get annoyed people would respond to those never ending threads, but then it dawned on me... they are doing that not to be a pain in the arse, but because they care about the welfare of a total stranger. They really care.

So in the end please don't get angry or annoyed if some folks here scared you with doomsday scenarios, because in the end total strangers actually were so concerned with your well being that they did what was needed to get you to get the proper care and they didn't bullshit you... those "worse case scenarios" are true.

Now sleep well, work out hard, eat like an effin pig and if you ever touch 'roids again we're all going to come on over to your place and take turns slapping you with a wet fish!

Red

[Mikeygas14]

thanks guys i appreciate it, i still hope next week that the doc give me something for my hair cause its bothering me alot, i want my hair i like it, i hate what i look like with a shaved head, anyway , thanks alot guys sorry that i was pissed i was in a ER for 5 hours remember, but i doubt im ever gonan touch that stuff again, but gusy seriously, i have really bad genetics and metabolism, i liek to party and eat bad at least once a week, can anybody help em out wtih like a step by step program for working out, running, supplents, and diet because mine obvisouly wasnt; good enought and hopeuflly the doc gives me something for my nipples too!!!

[Commando_Barbi]

Oh god......anything but wet fish. Ewwwwwwww. You are hard core Red.

C.B.

[Mastiff]

Mikey, I'm glad to hear you're OK. You really had me worried. You do roids again, I'll take Red Ketchups idea, but I'll use a week-old dead fish. I have to go now, I'll get back to you on the diet and stuff.

[Mikeygas14]

thanks mastiff for sticking in with me, i still have to hear from them on next mon about my nips and hair, they are testing prolactin levels and tsh, cause i am still loosing hair, they said it was gonna be temperoary yeah, get back to me on my diet and stuff when u get a chance, thanks alot, im never using roids again, just supplements
thanks guys, help em out with my diet.supp.work. routine

[Mikeygas14]

anybody gotta help me out with my diet/routing/supplement/training

guys the doc said my test was low when he took that first test, i feel like i can barely lift anymore i feel tired all the time and shit, shoudl i take any test like Eq or is that really bad, just asking not gonna do it
but just for my knowledge

[Mastiff]

Mikey, don't take test. Your HPTA was shut down by the roids. Let the docs treat that problem now. We are not doctors, and we don't have all the test results they will have to help you. I'm not surprised you are feeling tired. The diet and exercise programs require some work from you, Mikey. I can work out a routine for you, but I want to know all your stats, and exactly what you are doing on your routines now. It is a lot easier to cut when you have more muscle. Muscle needs more calories to maintain itself than fat. I Would put you on a bulking routine and diet to build up your muscle, then have you diet and cardio to cut, with enough lifting to maintain your mass. This is going to be hard to do while you are still sick from that cycle. It will be harder to lose fat now, while your test levels are low. If you would prefer to cut now, its your decision. I can also come up with a cutting cycle and diet. You have to let me know what you want to do, Mikey.

[Mikeygas14]

yeah if u can a cutting cycle and diet would be awsome, thanks for the help, i know, well......the doc i went to at the ER said my test was NORMAL but on the low average of normal and there was nothign he can give me for that, but they are still testing on MOn for TSH and prolactin levels, but i really realy just wanna cut to be honest, im 19 , 5'10 , i have some love handles and some chub im about 209 prob now caues i haven;t been lifting in a while, i just wanna cut down get some abs and then get bigger the lean way, if u can give me a diet/supplement, routine, and cutting cycle u said in ur last sentence Matiff to help me out , thanks a whole bundle man i appreciate this

[Mikeygas14]

in the past i have been doing mon. chest/tri wed, back/bis/ friday shoulders/abs, i ran around three times a week for 30 min, and i had a cheat day i ate and drank alchohol ......i mean it just wasn;t cutting it, i neeed some edge or something better please help if ya can

[Mikeygas14]

i really wanna cut body fat, while retaiing muscle, cause i got some muscle im kinda bulky

[Commando_Barbi]

What about legs Mikey?

[Mikeygas14]

I never really did legs i just ran alot

[Aragorn]

It's time to squat, Mikey

Aragorn

[Commando_Barbi]

Hmmmph...typical man .... scared of LEG DAY.

LMAO

C.B.

[Mikeygas14]

but that is why im asking for step by step help

[Commando_Barbi]

Hooya squats.

[Mastiff]

OK, Mikey. I can see why your fina cycle didn't do much. We have a ton of bro's and gals here who can help you. I'll work up a diet and routine for you. You are going to have to do legs, though. Remember, this takes a lot of work, it isn't magic. Don't do any self medicating. Right now, thats a real bad idea. Have you decided what weight and bodyfat % you want to be at?

[Mikeygas14]

yeah i will do def do legs.....and yeah i know nothign is magic, im justnever touching juice , any supplements u know of is good too. i would like to be at 180 pounds and low body fat, not EXtremely low but , where i can see my abs and have good defention , nothing crazy......im cnfused with supplements, and stuff, and yeah ANY routing u give me, cardio.weights, diet,supp, i will follow all the time!!! thanks

[Mikeygas14]

and im not gonna do any self medicatin,just whatever the doc gives me on Mon..hopefully something that will stop the hair and nips

[Mastiff]

Mikey, I'm not going to be able to get back to you with the diet and routine till monday or tuesday. There is one very effective way to get rid of fat that is very easy. All you have to do is walk for at least an hour, preferably twice a day. Don't walk so fast that you have to breathe heavy. You should be able to carry on a normal conversation while you are walking. Anytime you find it difficult to talk or you are breathing heavy, SLOW DOWN. It needs to be done for at least 40 minutes, or you don't get the effects. This is the best fat burning exercise I know. When you start breathing heavy you've stopped burning fat, and are starting to use glycogen, so slow down.

[BDTR]

Im gonna bump this thread, i know its old but it deserves to be read...

[Consistency]

this took me almost hour to read!!

[DocHoliday]

Wow. Good thought Bdtr, old but very very informative.

I hope all of us new cycle starters end well. Esp my dumbass for starting at a young age.

I wanted this though.

[NissanRider240]

this took me almost hour to read!!

Me too!!! But its worth the time.

[ddoublevision]

Wow. Good thought Bdtr, old but very very informative.

I hope all of us new cycle starters end well. Esp my dumbass for starting at a young age.

I wanted this though.

This should go into the educational forum if its not already

[Swellin]

Im gonna bump this thread, i know its old but it deserves to be read...

Nice move...very good read.
Thanks big guy!

[Troyboy]

Aren't doctors bound to a code of ethics which requires them to not saying anything, even in court about their patients?

[Carlos_E]

Im gonna bump this thread, i know its old but it deserves to be read...

See what one can find if they use the search button. I surprised I'm the only one who remembered this thread.

[tmeoe]

This thread reminds of an after school special, "Now remember kids, the next time you think of using gear, think of what happened to poor Mikey" (pan out to a shot of Mikey with patchy hair and boobs lactating)

I think this should be put in the educational forum

[symatech]

See what one can find if they use the search button. I surprised I'm the only one who remembered this thread.

shit bro just about every teen that juices i tell them to read this thread. most of em pm me back and say it wouldnt happen to them though

[NJou812]

Keep us posted on how it all turns out - good luck bro

[Foxy Sphinx]

This parts absolutely priceless.

i did my research but let me ask you something, how was i gonna fucking know that my body was gonna have this reaction??? enought of flaming me apart for no reaseach because i did, and just because my body got all messed up , is not my fault

So lets see, no HCG, no nolvadex or anti-aromatase, no bromo on hand, no finasteride on hand... wow kid, sure sounds like you did your research. Whered you research? www.clomid-is-all-you-need-with-steroids.com????

Christ kid. The fact that you also first said you were taking fina and test, now ur saying you dont even know what your friend was injecting into you, but assume it was just fina?? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU KID? If you dont even know anything about ancillaries, dont even know what dosage and what drugs your having injected into you, how can you prepare to combat the side effects, how can you even say you researched anything at all??? You are officially the posterboy of stupidity in my book.

Then to top this off, your alreayd talking about your next cycle? LMAO holyshit kid ur a victim to idiocy.

I find this thread hard to beleive, but if its true, im glad you got what you got.

[Powerful Beast]

Hey foxysphinx, treat people with respect, that is the destination of this mssg board. Mikeygas dont listen to him, Foxy has a LOT of problems of his own to deal with (that is going on a year massive 1st time cycle at the age of 18) remember this guys..NEVER take advice from a person who cannot subdue their own problems..

[Swellin]

...I find this thread hard to beleive, but if its true, im glad you got what you got.

Damn bro, that was a bit harsh. This thread is a year old, and it does not look like MikeyGas has been doing much posting.

I, for one, certainly hope that his ignorance did not cost him with long term damage.

Edited for emphasis on the age of the thread...so we don't keep giving him advice...a year after his last post.