notorious's first cycle

[the big 1]

Snapped this one today. I'm starting to notice a much leaner look since dropping carbs adding fats and taking the adex, not sure if it's a bad thing though because my weight took a big hit but I assume it was all water. 218 to 213 in one week. Weight has stopped at 213 for the past few days so i'm thinking just keep it like this but if I continue to lose weight i'm going to have to either try bumping pro higher or carbs back up

I'm at 4k+cals so I should def not be lossing weight

Looking awsome! Great arms m8!

[xnotoriousx]

Starting weight; 202
Now:213(+11)

Workout - Chest and Biceps
Incline DB Press 10,8,8
Flat BB Press 10,10,8
Incline cable Flys 10,10,8
Weighted Dips 12,10,7
Seated Fly Machine one burn out

Preacher Curls 12,10,8
Standing DB Curls 10, 10, 8
Cable Curls 10,10 8
Burnout set off chin-up negatives (ouch)

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Great ****ing workout today.

I've went up in weight on all of my exercises keeping the same rep ranges but the weight keeps moving up..

Bench/squat has gone up dramatically and i'm expecting some new numbers on deads after my long awaited rest day today....

I'm going to be LAZZZZZZY! hell I might still do some cardio.

[biggerguns]

Good progress indeed.

[xnotoriousx]

Thanks fellas.

I'm supposed to work back today but damn i'm enjoying this sunday ticket on the big screen to much... Maybe later Hopefully.

[green182]

Awesome progress bro.

I can't wait to start up, prolly after the new year.

Are you still planning on the 12 week cycle or the two 8 week cycles?

[xnotoriousx]

Not really sure, i'm being told different things by people who both have respected opinions so i'm going to wait until I feel it lose it's effect then i'll stop, no longer the 12 weeks though.

Had a nice pump goin on earlier today. Didn't seem to lose any strength yet since stopping the dbol.

Here's a shot from after my back workout, had one hell of a pump going. Arms are just barley shy I mean barley of 17" almost there.

[mperk]

Not really sure, i'm being told different things by people who both have respected opinions so i'm going to wait until I feel it lose it's effect then i'll stop, no longer the 12 weeks though.

Had a nice pump goin on earlier today. Didn't seem to lose any strength yet since stopping the dbol.

Here's a shot from after my back workout, had one hell of a pump going. Arms are just barley shy I mean barley of 17" almost there.

Awesome dude! IMO good that you got on the adex to limit the water gain. You are looking noticeably thicker - and your arms are def swole! Time to buy some new shirts - Hahahahaha

[xnotoriousx]

Starting weight; 202
Now:215(+13)

Workout - Back and Triceps
Wide Pullups 10,10,8
Deads 10,5,5
Seated Rows 10,10,8
Machine Rows 12,10,8

Dips
Dips
Cable Tricep extentions
Rope
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Weight is starting to go back up +2 so i'm assuming the test is kicking in. Also have some acne popping up on my back that I never get, not that it's a good thing but also another indicator that the test is kicked in. Feeling pretty good all around.

Went back to quad injects because they seem to give the least amount of discomfort the following days after injections plus if the spot injecting myth is true i'd love to benefit there more then anywhere. I really liked how simple and easy the delts were but damn 4 days after I still had shouler stiffness in both delts from it.

[xnotoriousx]

first one is after a couple weeks, next one is today after not taking dbol for a few days and taking the adex I dropped some water for sure.

[xnotoriousx]

My only real complaint I have right now is puffy nips, can't seem to get them gone for good. Took nolva at 40mg for a few days and then started taking adex at .25ed and then dropped it to .25 eod now they are puffy again so they're taking my brain for a spin. I am going to start taking the nolva at 10mg ed and the adex at .25 ed and see how it goes from there.

[mperk]

My only real complaint I have right now is puffy nips, can't seem to get them gone for good. Took nolva at 40mg for a few days and then started taking adex at .25ed and then dropped it to .25 eod now they are puffy again so they're taking my brain for a spin. I am going to start taking the nolva at 10mg ed and the adex at .25 ed and see how it goes from there.

I'd recommend the adex at .5 ed at bedtime. The nolva - I don't know how that would affect your nipps. Good luck broseph!

[green182]

My only real complaint I have right now is puffy nips, can't seem to get them gone for good. Took nolva at 40mg for a few days and then started taking adex at .25ed and then dropped it to .25 eod now they are puffy again so they're taking my brain for a spin. I am going to start taking the nolva at 10mg ed and the adex at .25 ed and see how it goes from there.

Lets see a pic.

Arms and back are lookin crazy..

[darkcrayz]

seeing those traps pop. back looking tight man. good job.

[xnotoriousx]

Thanks fellas, had a curve ball thrown at me yet again.

Got a call from a job i've been after for awhile and it's going to be travel and fast pace won't be able to eat every 3 hours and meals workout days will have to drop to 3 a week.

I'm not sure if I should just stop my cycle or finish it out with the sub par diet.


Any opinions/advice?

[mperk]

If it's a short term job, maybe stop the cycle and pick it up later. If it's a year plus - finish the cycle and see hoe you can do your best while working. Even doing pushups, etc in your hotel will help out - you'll have to get more creative. Maybe get some of those power bands too. Don't put off fitness for work - I did that for 8 years - HUGE mistake.

Good luck broski!

[xnotoriousx]

I hear that, i'll never put off fitness, I love my workouts but as far as bodybuilding goes I think it may have to come to an end. 4kcals for me is a TASK, and with this new job i'm going to have to be very focused and I know for a fact if I have to eat 4 500cal meals while at work it's going to take away my focus from work.

Would it be stupid to just continue my cycle with lower cals and just finish it out as a cut?

[mperk]

Yup - I hear you - the eating is a HUGE part of being successful - esp on cycle! Maybe you can look into Scivation's new meal replacement shake - you could def do that at a desk. (what kind of job is it?) Either way it won't be ideal but you'll do well. IMO you don't really need a cut atm - but that's up to you. Make sure you do the full PCT tho - you'll def regret it if you don't. I found that when the test left my system and I was waiting for the natty to kick back in, I was moody, depressed, etc.

Good luck bro!

[xnotoriousx]

I'll be cutting my cycle off at 8 weeks. Thanks to everyone that has followed and I hate that I couldn't continue on my bulking diet I was really starting to pack it on but it is what it is. I'll still post some pics after PCT just to let people know how it went. Expect me to look MUCH leaner lol

Any advice on PCT?

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

This is what I had planned... Look good to everyone?

[Mooseman33]

copntinue on bro, dont stop cycle yet..
if u dont eat every 3 hours u will be fine bro. u have put in a ton of hard work, these are the payoff days now..

stay on cycle bro, ur only do 2 shots a week...finish the game bro..

[xnotoriousx]

yeah **** it, i'm just going to finish it out the best I can. Heres some wheel shots I took the other day. I know they're not big but boy have they come a long way. KFC used to ask me for my recipe

[Mooseman33]

that a boy...
keep at it, do what u can and the test will do the rest. u have worked ur ass off to get to this point, this is when it will get fun and u will grow like a weed.

progress looks great so far man, keep it up.

[xnotoriousx]

they're starting to come out of hiding...

[green182]

Dam man nice.. What does your ab schedule look like?
What workouts and how often do you train your abs?

[xnotoriousx]

I'd say on avg I work abs once a week

I always like to do a 3 exercise circuit three sets..

Hanging leg raises to failure + DB side bends(45lbs) + Decline sit ups 60second rest then repeat

[xnotoriousx]

Starting weight; 202
Now:209(+7) Losing weight now

Workout - Shoulders/Calves/Abs
Behind Neck Mil Press 12,10,10
Upright Rows 12,10,8
Reverse Cable flys 10,10,8

Seated calve raise 15,12,10
Standing calve raise 15,12,10

Abs circuit

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Down 6lbs in 2 weeks which means I need to up my food intake just a bit, I don't mind losing some weight as i've already planned on dropping calories but I don't want to lose more then 2 a week. On the plus side i'm leaning out very quickly and look much better so i'm happy about that.

[mperk]

Nice work broski - you made some great progress there!

[xnotoriousx]

Nice work broski - you made some great progress there!

Thanks mperk I appreciate all your help in this thread as well as my old natty log.

Few more weeks till the end of my cycle, i'm going to enjoy looking at the 1 year before and after photos lol this will be my first time ever going a entire year without taking a long break. I'm happy about that.

[xnotoriousx]

You guys don't even wanna know what I just did....

Been 6 days without a cheat right....

Waffle house - All Star eggs+cheese, toast, bacon, hashbrowns with a big ass waffle covered with butter/syrup, crushed it in like 6-7 minutes like it never happened

Damn I feel like I did something illegal...

[ranging1]

good job mate, LOOK GREAT

[xnotoriousx]

good job mate, LOOK GREAT

I appreciate it man. I know from this point I could have done better but I think that's always the case no matter how good you do. My goal from the start was to be 200-205 at 10% so i'll be happy as hell if after pct I can hold onto that.

Any bodyfat guesstimations?

[Trippensee]

Honestly, you did a sick job bro. I remember when you first posted that picture of yourself doing some pose holding a railing with your shirt open (weird, btw.) and now you have forearms the size of your legs back then. Keep it up and keep at a general diet. You can still grow but at least you proved to yourself and everyone else here that you could do it the right way. I congratulate you...

[dangerous dan]

I appreciate it man. I know from this point I could have done better but I think that's always the case no matter how good you do. My goal from the start was to be 200-205 at 10% so i'll be happy as hell if after pct I can hold onto that.

Any bodyfat guesstimations?

id say about 12. maybe less.

you look bang on mate

[Slaktar]

Great job man. An amazing transformation, i`m sure you have inspired many, including me..

[Apexaddicted]

Nice gains man. I've been following your progress. I'd say aside from the puffy nipples, a pretty good cycle. Hope the next one goes good.

-Rob

[BurntRbr]

Great writeup. will follow!

[methyl]

yeah i got discouraged from weight staying same off dbol then realized its cuz mass is so much gain and water flys off me, thats just how i am , that the weight appeared same. I cant keep water even on dbol i only gained about 2-5 lbs water for some reason i never retain water unless on some anabolic, test cant do it to me, thank god !

[xnotoriousx]

I appreciate everyones comments, really helps motivate me. Only about one more week left on cycle and I think i'm going to come off... That'll make it a 10 week cycle... I have enough to run 12 weeks but from what everyone says they lose effect at 8 so I don't see the point in going past 10

[dangerous dan]

I appreciate everyones comments, really helps motivate me. Only about one more week left on cycle and I think i'm going to come off... That'll make it a 10 week cycle... I have enough to run 12 weeks but from what everyone says they lose effect at 8 so I don't see the point in going past 10

right back at ya.

great work, the arms are looking great. everything looks in proportion. hopefully ill be in that shape someday

sorry if i missed it notorious...but what bf was you at before cycle??

[xnotoriousx]

right back at ya.

great work, the arms are looking great. everything looks in proportion. hopefully ill be in that shape someday

sorry if i missed it notorious...but what bf was you at before cycle??

I was somewhere around 13-14% at 202lbs

[Aizen Sosuke]

I appreciate everyones comments, really helps motivate me. Only about one more week left on cycle and I think i'm going to come off... That'll make it a 10 week cycle... I have enough to run 12 weeks but from what everyone says they lose effect at 8 so I don't see the point in going past 10

A wise desicion. If you see gains dissappear why stay on? Now you know you respond better to shorter cycles.