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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Sorry if I ask something different now but I would like to know from you guys, with 10 iu ed of somatropin would be better to ingest 50 or 100 mcg of T4 before bed time?

    I am still waiting my blood work response on 50 mcg ed.
    I believe it needs to be 100mcg ed and is best taken before bedtime. I got this info from RedBaron, im not sure if there are studies to back this up. It is the protocol that I use and has worked well for me. I recently had my bloods done and my T4 levels were normal.
    -XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyface770 View Post
    Hey guys I just wanted to ask about skipping a shot , cause my alarm didn't do a good job at waking me up today and I woke up at around 8 AM , anyways I took the shot but what would be best if I skipped a shot next time ?

    Do I take it when I remember or just skip it ?
    What a coincidence!!!
    It happened to me the same thing this morning and I missed 5 iu.
    So, I am going to inject 5 iu 1 hour after lunch and 5 iu before bed time with 100 mcg of T4.
    Let's see if I feel any difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    I believe it needs to be 100mcg ed and is best taken before bedtime. I got this info from RedBaron, im not sure if there are studies to back this up. It is the protocol that I use and has worked well for me. I recently had my bloods done and my T4 levels were normal.
    Thanks for your suggestion.

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    Hey guys I just wanted to ask about skipping a shot , cause my alarm didn't do a good job at waking me up today and I woke up at around 8 AM , anyways I took the shot but what would be best if I skipped a shot next time ?

    Do I take it when I remember or just skip it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyface770 View Post
    Hey guys I just wanted to ask about skipping a shot , cause my alarm didn't do a good job at waking me up today and I woke up at around 8 AM , anyways I took the shot but what would be best if I skipped a shot next time ?

    Do I take it when I remember or just skip it ?
    Take it when you remember but not if your blood sugar is elevated or will be within an hour or so due to food/fliud intake, if that is the case then wait until it is back to normal then shoot.
    -XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Take it when you remember but not if your blood sugar is elevated or will be within an hour or so due to food/fliud intake, if that is the case then wait until it is back to normal then shoot.

    Thanks

    Sadly I had to it minutes after my breakfast and while driving to work I remembered someone on this thread saying they take it 30 min after breakfast but it was too late anyways

    Anyways I learnt a lesson and I felt so sides at 4IU maybe cause of the time , so its time to take it up a notch but the 2 split timings are making me feel sad cause I can't inject at the proper time
    Last edited by babyface770; 06-24-2010 at 02:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyface770 View Post
    Thanks

    Sadly I had to it minutes after my breakfast and while driving to work I remembered someone on this thread saying they take it 30 min after breakfast but it was too late anyways

    Anyways I learnt a lesson and I felt so sides at 4IU maybe cause of the time , so its time to take it up a notch but the 2 split timings are making me feel sad cause I can't inject at the proper time
    Well dont worry about that one single shot its no big deal.

    As we are all discussing on this thread it seems that there is no definite 'proper time' why dont you try the 2nd shot before bedtime like notsmall does, it works well for him
    -XL

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    I am noticing many people look up in this thread but only a few of them are providing info to share.
    We need more people...

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    Thanks Xlarge and bjj

    Well I won't be hitting tomorrow cause I'm off on friday .. So ill hit on friday night before I sleep and saturday dawn ( 3 am)

    I'm sending this through my blackberry but when I get home ill use excel to make a chart hopefully you guys will approve and I can have a peace of mind


    Again thank you very much for everything much appreciated !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I am noticing many people look up in this thread but only a few of them are providing info to share.
    We need more people...
    Some of us are newbs to the HGH world, i just started mine this week. (bluetops @ 2 UI's) So its more of a great learning page for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chev View Post
    Some of us are newbs to the HGH world, i just started mine this week. (bluetops @ 2 UI's) So its more of a great learning page for some.
    Thanks for posting

    Please join in mate, everybody can contribute to this thread and share their thoughts and experiences. How are you finding the blues? Any sides yet?
    -XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Thanks for posting

    Please join in mate, everybody can contribute to this thread and share their thoughts and experiences. How are you finding the blues? Any sides yet?
    The only side im noticing is my eye is twitching alot. lol!! Ive never heard of it happening to anyone else....

    Other than that so far so good, im looking forward to training and eating...its what the game is all about.

    Stats Age 31
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    BF around 13%

    Ive taking some pics and keeping a small personal log. Will share with the class from month to month...

    This site has been the best with all the AAS knowledge, looking forward to the HGH knowledge to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chev View Post
    The only side im noticing is my eye is twitching alot. lol!! Ive never heard of it happening to anyone else....

    Other than that so far so good, im looking forward to training and eating...its what the game is all about.

    Stats Age 31
    6' 4"
    241 pounds
    BF around 13%

    Ive taking some pics and keeping a small personal log. Will share with the class from month to month...

    This site has been the best with all the AAS knowledge, looking forward to the HGH knowledge to come.

    Good stats and a cracking base to build on, are you running aas along side?
    -XL

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    i bought some thanktropin and it is junk i took 30 iu in 1 week to start to see how good it was no sides at all so save your money for the real stuff i would like to find some jintropin aq liquid pen any one ever try this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myturn View Post
    i bought some thanktropin and it is junk i took 30 iu in 1 week to start to see how good it was no sides at all so save your money for the real stuff i would like to find some jintropin aq liquid pen any one ever try this?
    Not everyone experiences sides and even if you do it can take longer than a week. Thanktropin if fine, you may have fake which if that is the case you don not in fact have thanktropin!
    -XL

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    Can the timing of my shot be the reason I didn't feel any sides ?


    The reason I'm asking if that I'm really paranoid that my GH is not decent so basically I'm going with "guilty until proven innocent" and damn it I paid soo much for the pens
    Last edited by babyface770; 06-24-2010 at 05:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyface770 View Post
    Can the timing of my shot be the reason I didn't feel any sides ?


    The reason I'm asking if that I'm really paranoid that my GH is not decent so basically I'm going with "guilty until proven innocent" and damn it I paid soo much for the pens
    You have already experienced sides from the pens so therefore I would'nt question if they are real or not, you have probably built up a tolerance thats all. In my experience the timing of the shot has not effected the sides.
    -XL

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    XL, I was wondering that since I started this new HGH brand (yellow tops ex UK) I started to feel some sorrow in both my elbows.

    My bjj training and weight lifting training is fine so could it be related to HGH?
    Could that be a side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    XL, I was wondering that since I started this new HGH brand (yellow tops ex UK) I started to feel some sorrow in both my elbows.

    My bjj training and weight lifting training is fine so could it be related to HGH?
    Could that be a side?
    Yes it could be fluid retention, I have been having trouble with my shoulders recently when I increased my dose. If it was some form of injury then I doubt it would hit both elbows at the same time, do you agree?
    -XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Yes it could be fluid retention, I have been having trouble with my shoulders recently when I increased my dose. If it was some form of injury then I doubt it would hit both elbows at the same time, do you agree?
    Yes I do, intelligent consideration.

    I did not think about that by myself...

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    After much thought and deliberation I've decided Monday will be my start date for hgh, I've been looking at it for the past few weeks and i cant take it anymore...

    As I've said before i shall run it for 2 months before adding aas...
    Do not ask me for a source check.






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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    After much thought and deliberation I've decided Monday will be my start date for hgh, I've been looking at it for the past few weeks and i cant take it anymore...

    As I've said before i shall run it for 2 months before adding aas...
    Keep us posted mate, have you ever run it before?
    -XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    After much thought and deliberation I've decided Monday will be my start date for hgh, I've been looking at it for the past few weeks and i cant take it anymore...

    As I've said before i shall run it for 2 months before adding aas...
    Have you had it in your possession for some time?

    If so how ON EARTH did you resist starting it? - Once I get anything in the post it's in my bloodstream as soon as I can tear the package open with my teeth! lol

    So how are you going to run it...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall View Post
    Have you had it in your possession for some time?

    If so how ON EARTH did you resist starting it? - Once I get anything in the post it's in my bloodstream as soon as I can tear the package open with my teeth! lol

    So how are you going to run it...?
    Hahaha, i know what you mean...

    Yeah ive had it a few weeks but only got 800ius, (glotropin)...

    Im going to start it at 2ius 5/2 for 3 weeks then 4ius for another 3 weeks, 6ius for 3 weeks and then finish on 8ius. I could do with running the 8ius for at least 6 months.....

    First time on hgh so im expecting some good results, i will be adding test and tren after 2 months but im seriously considering cruising from then on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Hahaha, i know what you mean...

    Yeah ive had it a few weeks but only got 800ius, (glotropin)...

    Im going to start it at 2ius 5/2 for 3 weeks then 4ius for another 3 weeks, 6ius for 3 weeks and then finish on 8ius. I could do with running the 8ius for at least 6 months.....

    First time on hgh so im expecting some good results, i will be adding test and tren after 2 months but im seriously considering cruising from then on...
    Have you decided what time of day you're going to be having the gh?
    -XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Have you decided what time of day you're going to be having the gh?
    For now im going to stick with early morning, 6am.

    When it comes to splitting the dose im still unsure, i will keep the 6am shot but cant make my mind up between early pm or bed time for the second shot....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Hahaha, i know what you mean...

    Yeah ive had it a few weeks but only got 800ius, (glotropin)...

    Im going to start it at 2ius 5/2 for 3 weeks then 4ius for another 3 weeks, 6ius for 3 weeks and then finish on 8ius. I could do with running the 8ius for at least 6 months.....

    First time on hgh so im expecting some good results, i will be adding test and tren after 2 months but im seriously considering cruising from then on...
    lol I got some MT II for the first time on monday, everyone says to shoot it at bedtime but there was NO WAY I was waiting that long - it was like 4 hours away! Ha ha haaa!

    Sounds good mate - personally I would ramp up quicker but then that will burn through your GH quicker too!

    I haven't PCT'd for about 2 yrs I don't think - have no intention of doing so either - apart from breeding (which I have NO intention of doing) I cannot think of a reason to come off - I am pretty sure that healthwise it is better to run a low dose of test rather than putting yourself through the hormonal rollercoaster and barrage of drugs that PCT involves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall View Post
    lol I got some MT II for the first time on monday
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall View Post
    lol I got some MT II for the first time on monday, everyone says to shoot it at bedtime but there was NO WAY I was waiting that long - it was like 4 hours away! Ha ha haaa!

    Sounds good mate - personally I would ramp up quicker but then that will burn through your GH quicker too!

    I haven't PCT'd for about 2 yrs I don't think - have no intention of doing so either - apart from breeding (which I have NO intention of doing) I cannot think of a reason to come off - I am pretty sure that healthwise it is better to run a low dose of test rather than putting yourself through the hormonal rollercoaster and barrage of drugs that PCT involves!
    Would you say GH as made the biggest difference to your body or AAS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall View Post
    lol I got some MT II for the first time on monday, everyone says to shoot it at bedtime but there was NO WAY I was waiting that long - it was like 4 hours away! Ha ha haaa!

    Sounds good mate - personally I would ramp up quicker but then that will burn through your GH quicker too!

    I haven't PCT'd for about 2 yrs I don't think - have no intention of doing so either - apart from breeding (which I have NO intention of doing) I cannot think of a reason to come off - I am pretty sure that healthwise it is better to run a low dose of test rather than putting yourself through the hormonal rollercoaster and barrage of drugs that PCT involves!
    What dose do you cruise bro???
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    After much thought and deliberation I've decided Monday will be my start date for hgh, I've been looking at it for the past few weeks and i cant take it anymore...

    As I've said before i shall run it for 2 months before adding aas...
    007 - just curious - why start the hgh 2 months before AAS? i was going to start a new cycle next month with test, EQ and hgh + igf and maybe some other peptides.

    Thanks. BTW - I assume that is u in the avitar - Fukking HUGE back pimp daddy! how do you get thru door ways? LOL

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    Either FT4 and FT3 are going down in spite of 50 mcg ed of T4 ingested. I am going to bump to 100 mcg ed from today.

    TSH instead, almost doubled; even though it came only back to where it was
    before the cycle.

    Insulin and glycemia are fine.

    Even this other HGH brand is real, now I need a check for the last one I am using since a few days.
    Saturday morning, a new blood work with IGF-1 also.

    Any comments appreciated.



    BLOOD, URINE, FAECES & SPERM ANALYSES:
    __________________________________________________ _________________Day 38_______________Day 89 p12__________Day 93 p16__________Day 101 p24

    BLOOD
    ERYTHROCYTES: 5,08 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]______________________________________4,65_________________5,33____________________________________5,08
    LEUCOCYTES: 7,6 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________14,4_________________7,5_____________________________________9,3
    - NE: 4,2 / 55,9 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]
    - LY: 2,5 / 35 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]
    - MO: 0,7 / 8,7 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]
    - EO: 0,3 / 2,5 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]
    - BA: 0 / 0,6 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]
    HEMOGLOBIN: 15,1 gr/dl [14 - 18]___________________________________________13,2_________________13,7____________________________________13,1
    HEMATOCRIT: 44,2 % [42 - 52]_____________________________________________39,8_________________41,5____________________________________39,8
    MCV: 87 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________85,6_________________77,9____________________________________78,3
    MCH: 29,7 picogr. [27 - 31]________________________________________________28,4_________________25,7____________________________________25,8
    MCHC: 34,2 gr/dl [32 - 36]_________________________________________________33,2_________________33_____________________________________32,9
    RDW: 13,7 % [11,6 - 16]__________________________________________________ _____________________16,2
    GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 65,7 % [37 -80]________________________________________76,4_________________43,2____________________________________51,7
    GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,8 % [0,0 - 7]_________________________________________0,5__________________1,6_____________________________________1,3
    GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,9 % [0,0 - 2,5]_________________________________________0,8__________________0,3_____________________________________1
    LYMPHOCYTES: 23,4 % [10 - 50]____________________________________________16__________________48______________________________________36,5
    MONOCYTES: 7,2 % [0,0 - 12]______________________________________________6,3__________________6,9_____________________________________9,5
    PLATELETS: 150000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]_________________________________362000______________270000_________________________________148000
    PCT: 0,13 % [0,1 - 1]
    MPV: 7,5 fl [5 - 10]
    PDW: 17,5 % [12 - 18]

    HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
    GLYCEMIA (basal): 91 mg/dl [70 - 110]__________________________________________________ _________92______________________________________83

    QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s
    PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 71 % [70-130]
    INR: 1,2
    APTT: 28 s
    FIBRINOGEN: 190 mg/dl [180 - 350]
    HOMOCYSTEINE: 11 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]
    MYOGLOBIN: 27 ng/ml [10 - 46]

    AZOTEMIA: 62 mg/dl [15-40]______________________________________________46____________________73
    CREATININE: 1,1 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]__________________________________________1,2___________________1,1
    HYPERURICEMIA: 6 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]

    CHOLESTEROL TTL: 156 mg/dl [140 - 220]___________________________________142___________________173
    CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 35 mg/dl [20 - 40]
    CHOLESTEROL LDL: 103 mg/dl [< 150]_______________________________________130
    CHOLESTEROL HDL: 35 mg/dl [> 40]_________________________________________12___________________22
    INDEX RISK HDL: 4,5 [till 5]________________________________________________11,8__________________7,9
    APO A1: 190 mg/dl [115 - 220]
    APO B: 79 mg/dl [55 - 125]
    RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]
    TRIGLYCERIDES: 90 mg/dl [< 150]

    GAMMA (YGT): 32 u/ltr [15 - 85]___________________________________________27___________________39
    ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 96 u/ltr [50 - 136]_________________________________57___________________79
    BILIRUBIN TTL: 1 mg/dl [0,2-1]__________________________________________________ ____________________________________1,16
    BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,25 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]__________________________________________________ __________________________0,33
    BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 0,67 mg/dl [till 0,7]__________________________________________________ ____________________________0,83
    TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 26 u/ltr [15 - 37]__________________________________63
    TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 62 u/ltr [30 - 65]__________________________________104
    FERRITIN: 125 ng/ml [24 - 336]

    LIPASE: 324 u/ltr [114 - 284]______________________________________________234__________________218
    AMYLASE: 69 u/ltr [25 - 115]______________________________________________66___________________75

    LDH: 170 u/ltr [100 - 190]
    CPK MB: 230 u/ltr [35 - 232]
    CK NAK: 160 u/l [till 167]
    PROTIDES TTL: 7,5 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]
    ALBUMIN: 60 % [51 - 63,3]
    ALFA 1: 3 % [2,2 - 4,3]
    ALFA 2: 10 % [9,5 - 14]
    BETA: 11 % [10-14,5]
    GAMMA: 19 % [12 - 20]
    A/G RATIO: 1,45 [1,0 - 1,7]

    PSA: 0,6 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ ___1,23________________0,61
    PSA FREE: 0,23
    PSA FREE/TTL: 0,38 [>0,15]
    PAP: 1,3 ng/ml [till 3,5]__________________________________________________ _1,5

    IGG: 1455 mg/dl [681 - 1648]
    IGA: 309 mg/dl [87 - 474]
    IGD: 55 u/ml [till 100]
    IGM: 101 mg/dl [48 - 312]
    IGE (prist): 39,07 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]

    HORMONAL
    GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28-125]
    MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
    C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
    INSULIN: 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]__________________________________________________ _____________3,55____________________________________2,08
    GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40-130]
    ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
    CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]_________________________________________12,45______________19,89___________________________________17,4
    FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]_________________________________________________3,95________________4,03____________________________________2,83
    FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ _1,62_______________1,4_____________________________________1,33
    MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
    HTG: 9,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
    TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
    TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]_____________________________________________2,48________________2,66____________________________________4,37
    FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55_____________________________________0,72
    LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15_____________________________________2,58
    PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
    ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
    ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
    DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
    DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
    DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250_____________________________________300
    TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7_________________0,48_________________1,61________________4,84
    TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68____________________________________5,9
    SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6_________________________________________24,8
    ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
    ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150_________________27
    ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
    PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
    PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12________________0,62_________________1
    IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 424]_______________________________________________159__________________238
    HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]__________________________________________________ ____________________11,1____________________________________10,5
    Last edited by BJJ; 06-24-2010 at 11:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Either FT4 and FT3 are going down in spite of 50 mcg ed of T4 ingested. I am going to bump to 100 mcg ed from today.

    TSH instead, almost doubled; even though it came only back to where it was
    before the cycle.

    Insulin and glycemia are fine.

    Even this other HGH brand is real, now I need a check for the last one I am using since a few days.
    Saturday morning, a new blood work with IGF-1 also.

    Any comments appreciated.



    BLOOD, URINE, FAECES & SPERM ANALYSES:
    __________________________________________________ _________________Day 38_______________Day 89 p12__________Day 93 p16__________Day 101 p24

    BLOOD
    ERYTHROCYTES: 5,08 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]______________________________________4,65_________________5,33____________________________________5,08
    LEUCOCYTES: 7,6 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________14,4_________________7,5_____________________________________9,3
    - NE: 4,2 / 55,9 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]
    - LY: 2,5 / 35 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]
    - MO: 0,7 / 8,7 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]
    - EO: 0,3 / 2,5 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]
    - BA: 0 / 0,6 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]
    HEMOGLOBIN: 15,1 gr/dl [14 - 18]___________________________________________13,2_________________13,7____________________________________13,1
    HEMATOCRIT: 44,2 % [42 - 52]_____________________________________________39,8_________________41,5____________________________________39,8
    MCV: 87 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________85,6_________________77,9____________________________________78,3
    MCH: 29,7 picogr. [27 - 31]________________________________________________28,4_________________25,7____________________________________25,8
    MCHC: 34,2 gr/dl [32 - 36]_________________________________________________33,2_________________33_____________________________________32,9
    RDW: 13,7 % [11,6 - 16]__________________________________________________ _____________________16,2
    GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 65,7 % [37 -80]________________________________________76,4_________________43,2____________________________________51,7
    GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,8 % [0,0 - 7]_________________________________________0,5__________________1,6_____________________________________1,3
    GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,9 % [0,0 - 2,5]_________________________________________0,8__________________0,3_____________________________________1
    LYMPHOCYTES: 23,4 % [10 - 50]____________________________________________16__________________48______________________________________36,5
    MONOCYTES: 7,2 % [0,0 - 12]______________________________________________6,3__________________6,9_____________________________________9,5
    PLATELETS: 150000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]_________________________________362000______________270000_________________________________148000
    PCT: 0,13 % [0,1 - 1]
    MPV: 7,5 fl [5 - 10]
    PDW: 17,5 % [12 - 18]

    HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
    GLYCEMIA (basal): 91 mg/dl [70 - 110]__________________________________________________ _________92______________________________________83

    QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s
    PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 71 % [70-130]
    INR: 1,2
    APTT: 28 s
    FIBRINOGEN: 190 mg/dl [180 - 350]
    HOMOCYSTEINE: 11 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]
    MYOGLOBIN: 27 ng/ml [10 - 46]

    AZOTEMIA: 62 mg/dl [15-40]______________________________________________46____________________73
    CREATININE: 1,1 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]__________________________________________1,2___________________1,1
    HYPERURICEMIA: 6 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]

    CHOLESTEROL TTL: 156 mg/dl [140 - 220]___________________________________142___________________173
    CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 35 mg/dl [20 - 40]
    CHOLESTEROL LDL: 103 mg/dl [< 150]_______________________________________130
    CHOLESTEROL HDL: 35 mg/dl [> 40]_________________________________________12___________________22
    INDEX RISK HDL: 4,5 [till 5]________________________________________________11,8__________________7,9
    APO A1: 190 mg/dl [115 - 220]
    APO B: 79 mg/dl [55 - 125]
    RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]
    TRIGLYCERIDES: 90 mg/dl [< 150]

    GAMMA (YGT): 32 u/ltr [15 - 85]___________________________________________27___________________39
    ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 96 u/ltr [50 - 136]_________________________________57___________________79
    BILIRUBIN TTL: 1 mg/dl [0,2-1]__________________________________________________ ____________________________________1,16
    BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,25 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]__________________________________________________ __________________________0,33
    BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 0,67 mg/dl [till 0,7]__________________________________________________ ____________________________0,83
    TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 26 u/ltr [15 - 37]__________________________________63
    TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 62 u/ltr [30 - 65]__________________________________104
    FERRITIN: 125 ng/ml [24 - 336]

    LIPASE: 324 u/ltr [114 - 284]______________________________________________234__________________218
    AMYLASE: 69 u/ltr [25 - 115]______________________________________________66___________________75

    LDH: 170 u/ltr [100 - 190]
    CPK MB: 230 u/ltr [35 - 232]
    CK NAK: 160 u/l [till 167]
    PROTIDES TTL: 7,5 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]
    ALBUMIN: 60 % [51 - 63,3]
    ALFA 1: 3 % [2,2 - 4,3]
    ALFA 2: 10 % [9,5 - 14]
    BETA: 11 % [10-14,5]
    GAMMA: 19 % [12 - 20]
    A/G RATIO: 1,45 [1,0 - 1,7]

    PSA: 0,6 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ ___1,23________________0,61
    PSA FREE: 0,23
    PSA FREE/TTL: 0,38 [>0,15]
    PAP: 1,3 ng/ml [till 3,5]__________________________________________________ _1,5

    IGG: 1455 mg/dl [681 - 1648]
    IGA: 309 mg/dl [87 - 474]
    IGD: 55 u/ml [till 100]
    IGM: 101 mg/dl [48 - 312]
    IGE (prist): 39,07 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]

    HORMONAL
    GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28-125]
    MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
    C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
    INSULIN: 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]__________________________________________________ _____________3,55____________________________________2,08
    GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40-130]
    ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
    CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]_________________________________________12,45______________19,89___________________________________17,4
    FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]_________________________________________________3,95________________4,03____________________________________2,83
    FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ _1,62_______________1,4_____________________________________1,33
    MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
    HTG: 9,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
    TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
    TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]_____________________________________________2,48________________2,66____________________________________4,37
    FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55_____________________________________0,72
    LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15_____________________________________2,58
    PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
    ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
    ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
    DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
    DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
    DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250_____________________________________300
    TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7_________________0,48_________________1,61________________4,84
    TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68____________________________________5,9
    SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6_________________________________________24,8
    ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
    ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150_________________27
    ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
    PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
    PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12________________0,62_________________1
    IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 424]_______________________________________________159__________________238
    HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]__________________________________________________ ____________________11,1____________________________________10,5

    I posted this on your thread but will repeat it here for others to read.

    Elivated TSH leves are expected if FT3 FT4 levels are low.


    When it functions properly the thyroid is part of a feedback loop with your pituitary gland. First, the pituitary senses the level of thyroid hormone that the thyroid has released into the bloodstream then pituitary then releases TSH that stimulates the thyroid to release more thyroid hormone. When the thyroid does not produce enough thyroid hormone the pituitary detects this reduction in thyroid hormone and it moves into action. The pituitary then makes more TSH to help trigger the thyroid to produce more thyroid hormone, this is the pituitary's effort to return the system to "normal" and normalize thyroid function. Therefore a TSH that is higher than normal suggests a thyroid that is underactive and not doing its job of producing thyroid hormone for whatever reason, ilness, stress, obstruction e.g. recombinant Growth Hormone.

    I would increase your T4 to 100mcg ed from 50mcg ed.
    -XL

    jing jai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    I posted this on your thread but will repeat it here for others to read.

    Elivated TSH leves are expected if FT3 FT4 levels are low.


    When it functions properly the thyroid is part of a feedback loop with your pituitary gland. First, the pituitary senses the level of thyroid hormone that the thyroid has released into the bloodstream then pituitary then releases TSH that stimulates the thyroid to release more thyroid hormone. When the thyroid does not produce enough thyroid hormone the pituitary detects this reduction in thyroid hormone and it moves into action. The pituitary then makes more TSH to help trigger the thyroid to produce more thyroid hormone, this is the pituitary's effort to return the system to "normal" and normalize thyroid function. Therefore a TSH that is higher than normal suggests a thyroid that is underactive and not doing its job of producing thyroid hormone for whatever reason, ilness, stress, obstruction e.g. recombinant Growth Hormone.

    I would increase your T4 to 100mcg ed from 50mcg ed.
    Thank you

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    Could someone explain to me the difference's between glotropin,blue tops,green tops and ********** ?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy155 View Post
    Could someone explain to me the difference's between glotropin,blue tops,green tops and ********** ?
    Thanks
    As long as they are all HGH and not fake then there should'nt be much difference at all.
    -XL

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    hello,
    i want to get my father on HGH. not to do w bb but more for overall benefits. he has some hip/back problems from sports and i thought this would help to heal etc.
    do you think this is a good pick for him.
    and how would you dose for a maintenance sort of thing, not mass building etc.
    i read on the hgh profile on this site that best benefits are seen taking it one day and off for one. is it best to take 2x a day or just in the AM
    and a low dose would suffice for his goal set?
    thanks for the imput!

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    Quote Originally Posted by some_gurl View Post
    hello,
    i want to get my father on HGH. not to do w bb but more for overall benefits. he has some hip/back problems from sports and i thought this would help to heal etc.
    do you think this is a good pick for him.
    and how would you dose for a maintenance sort of thing, not mass building etc.
    i read on the hgh profile on this site that best benefits are seen taking it one day and off for one. is it best to take 2x a day or just in the AM
    and a low dose would suffice for his goal set?
    thanks for the imput!
    To be helped you should write down your father's stats.
    But yes, he might benefit from somatropin.

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    I did not sleep very well tonight and I do not know if related to the injection of 5 iu took yesterday @ 23:45 pm along with 100 mcg of T4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I did not sleep very well tonight and I do not know if related to the injection of 5 iu took yesterday @ 23:45 pm along with 100 mcg of T4.
    Its not the late HGH shot its the 100mcg of T4, try having it a little earlier if it affects you like that.
    -XL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Its not the late HGH shot its the 100mcg of T4, try having it a little earlier if it affects you like that.
    As usual thanks for the advice.

    Little earlier but always on an empty stomach, right?

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