London Bridge Is Falling Down

[dec11]

Well there is a huge difference between the chavs and unemployed thugs of Britain and Muslims, but whatever. You do realise some of "The Muslims" were defending themselves against this scum yesterday?



Thing is mate, over there, it wasn't just a few youths and bored kids, it was whole communities, fighting for a cause, a belief. This lot are wild animals out for cheap thrills. To them, this is all just entertainment.

And I feel the reason the police have been ineffectual is because of the Government and Media. I mean the police really have their hands tied. I know cops get a lot of bad press here on this board, and because of that, more and more power is taken away from them, to appease the public. And what you are left with, is a police force afraid to act, because of the consequences that will follow.

There WILL be a 5th night of violence. Only today, did Cameron finally sanction the use of water cannons and possibly rubber bullets. I mean, it seems to me that short of West Minster being done over, Cameron will just play the "wait and see what happens" game.

same in NI mate, 99% would shit themselves if you put an AK in their hands and told them to shoot someone. its mainly pure thuggery with a cause as an excuse these days

[paulzane]

In cities across Britain, ordinary people have been forced by the deliberate inaction of our Police to physically defend their homes, businesses and families from the hordes who have violently rampaged through our communities.

Aside from the many questions asked by the chattering classes and the Liberal-dominated media about the causes of this criminal rampage, the question that ordinary Britons want an answer to is why the Police were ordered to stand back and allow this criminal rampage to gather pace with the eventual result that large areas far away from the original riot were reduced to war zones.

The unspoken suspicion among many British people is that the Police force, neutered by political correctness, dared not oppose these rampaging criminals purely because the vast majority were black.

As we saw on Wednesday evening in Eltham, southeast London, there were plenty of riot police deployed to ‘control’ local indigenous men who had gathered to protect their town centre and community against violent invasion from nearby black-dominated communities, and the riot police were not reticent about using aggressive action to disperse these men to regain control of Eltham’s streets.

So why were the police unable to physically control the violence that mainly sprung from one ethnic community but mustered vast numbers to control peaceful citizens from another ethnic community – the indigenous community?

[crazy_rocks]

good one paul. i noticed that as well. maybe they were having a hard time noticing a difference between riot crowds and crowds waiting to protect. i dont think this is the case though, just a thought. actually now that i think of it, it sounds familiar. wish i could remember where i read it but i remember hearing about a crowd that was acting as a protection and it was a trick. maybe i heard it on tv.

a society mentally castrated or neutered as you say is doomed to be ruined when in denial of racial problems.

[Flagg]

In the aftermatch of the riots, David Cameron has called for the families of prosecuted rioters to be evicted from their homes:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...uncil-eviction

Should another person be prosecuted for the actions of another? Probably not. However, these parents have a hand in the upbringing of their children in some form or another, and if they cannot, or worse, will not, instal discipline into their children then perhaps they should be made culpable.

Cameron giving an interview on this:



This may surprise many of you, or it may not surprise you at all, but 19.5 million people in Britain are on are on some form of welfare. That's nearly a full third of the population. Not every one of those people are unemployed looking for work or suffer a disability. A lot of that is down to pure, laziness.

Perhaps these evictions that are to come will set a precedent. This will compel parents to take better care of their children instead of letting them do what they want, lest it interfere's with what they want to do instead.

[Matt]

You know Flagg i understand that this move maybe popular with many people but imo its only going to make things much much worse and the whole idea of making these people homeless is retarded... Throwing these people in the streets isn't going to do anything but make matters worse, these people have next to nothing so taking what very little they do have isnt going to turn them into model citizens...

Put it this way, if you took everything away from me including my home and threw me on the streets then be prepared for war because as far as im concerned a lengthy prison sentence is a better offer....

As for the parents not controlling their kids we've created this problem, what happens when 210lb 15 year old Jonny tells mum to fvck off, whats she supposed to do?? Or what happens when her 12 year old daughter tells her she's not going to school any more, what can mum actually do??? I know when i was a child i would have been beaten black and blue for not obeying my elders but those days are long gone....

And make no mistake about this, if everyone on welfare decided that from Monday onwards they will not accept any more money from the state do you really think it would make the slightest difference to people taxes? Not a fvcking chance....

[Flagg]

Well im on the fence on this Matt, im for it because it would force families to be better, yet im not sure if eviction is the right way. However I do think a TOUGH PENALTY has to be executed.

As for 200 pound Johnny telling his Mum to fvck off, how is it that he's that disrespectful of her in the first place? Where is the Dad? How is it, that she hasn't raised him to be more respectful of his older peers? I've never told my Mum to "fvck off" and im pretty sure most people here have not done the same either, and i've had some really blue arguments with the old dear in the past.

Kids like that today, not only tell their parents to fvck off, they tell the police to as well, and nothing can be done about it so it has to stop.

I'm a big believer in pushing education onto people. Education and skills. Not to deviate, but take ex cons. What point is there in them learning skills inside, if they are unable to apply them outside? Rehabilitation and reintroduction is a joke and it's no wonder many people re-offend, as that is all they feel they can do.

What I would like to see, are harder, tougher prison sentences given out. But I would like to see something, that upon release, after 2 years if you have not reoffended you should be placed in a bracket to apply for certain jobs and after 5 years, you should be allowed to not include having had a prison sentence on a application form. Perhaps the type of crime should reflect when you can "wipe the slate clean", but I think this would be a start. Perhaps a rapist should never be allowed in a working environment where women are, and so forth (just an example).

Tougher sentences, to deter crime in the first place, BUT a true second chance for ex cons.

Education and skills need to be pushed on under-privalidged people. But with fee's increasing for Uni's by 300% next year, what's the point of that now?

[Shol'va]

Great, now this crap has hit The American shores. Over here it is called flash mobs started by social networking sites. They are all teens out of control with total lack of respect for law, other people or property. It is the everyone owes them everything mentality and I'm gonna get mine and F U up if you get in my way and even if you don't get in my way. Their parents are real proud of their upbringing. We could blame it all on lack of a good educational system, but teaching right from wrong is taught at home. So if these kids want to act like murderers and rapists and thieves, then they should be treated like such and shot on site. Ok maybe that's a little harsh, but they do need to be put into some sort of reconditioning programs to try to turn them around or just lock them up and throw away the keys. I was raised better than this and so were they. Again, they know right from wrong but choose the easy way out, stealing and plundering. Just a shame and not limited to just Merry Old England either.
PS: Wmaousley both you and I know this is the work of them dad gum Muslims......

[dec11]

In the aftermatch of the riots, David Cameron has called for the families of prosecuted rioters to be evicted from their homes:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...uncil-eviction

Should another person be prosecuted for the actions of another? Probably not. However, these parents have a hand in the upbringing of their children in some form or another, and if they cannot, or worse, will not, instal discipline into their children then perhaps they should be made culpable.

Cameron giving an interview on this:



This may surprise many of you, or it may not surprise you at all, but 19.5 million people in Britain are on are on some form of welfare. That's nearly a full third of the population. Not every one of those people are unemployed looking for work or suffer a disability. A lot of that is down to pure, laziness.

Perhaps these evictions that are to come will set a precedent. This will compel parents to take better care of their children instead of letting them do what they want, lest it interfere's with what they want to do instead.

fair play, kick them out on their ring pieces

[dec11]

You know Flagg i understand that this move maybe popular with many people but imo its only going to make things much much worse and the whole idea of making these people homeless is retarded... Throwing these people in the streets isn't going to do anything but make matters worse, these people have next to nothing so taking what very little they do have isnt going to turn them into model citizens...

Put it this way, if you took everything away from me including my home and threw me on the streets then be prepared for war because as far as im concerned a lengthy prison sentence is a better offer....

As for the parents not controlling their kids we've created this problem, what happens when 210lb 15 year old Jonny tells mum to fvck off, whats she supposed to do?? Or what happens when her 12 year old daughter tells her she's not going to school any more, what can mum actually do??? I know when i was a child i would have been beaten black and blue for not obeying my elders but those days are long gone....

And make no mistake about this, if everyone on welfare decided that from Monday onwards they will not accept any more money from the state do you really think it would make the slightest difference to people taxes? Not a fvcking chance....

me also, and it didnt do me one bit of harm. bring those days back is what i say

[Twist]

Hey cut spending and government funding guys, take a look at the UK before you vote. Smaller government woo hoo!

[Flagg]

Cameron wants to bring back Non-Military National Service for 16 year olds:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...al-collapse.do

That family also got evicted and he says more are to follow. I have to say, im 100% behind him on all of this.

Enough is enough. It's limp wristed governments and systems that have allowed this scum to proliferate in Britain. The UK has become a haven for those that never have to work a days work in their lives, that dont have to fear teachers, policemen or anyone of authority because they know there will never be consequences for anything that will follow. Unless we are shown to be hard, harsh, whatever, scum like we witnessed last week will do the same again or worse.

Richard Bowes, 68, was killed by one of these scumbags. Why? Because he tried to put out a fire near his home. The little shitbag that did this was just 16. His mother was also recently charged for perverting the course of justice:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ondon-riots.do

Enough is enough.

[auslifta]

I like the idea of national service

[Shol'va]

Sad thing is it's spreading to the states. Here in Kansas City, Missouri we are having incidents in one of our most popular fashionable shopping centers, The Country Club Plaza. They are flash mobs started by texting and all by underage youths gone wild with absolutely no respect for anyone, anywhere, anytime. They are willing to rob, beat, kill, and plunder, full well knowing that nothing will happen to them because we don't believe in harsh sentencing for our young misguided youths, therefore they can kill and rob anytime they please. And they are having a field day. All the politicians can say is well we will just put a curfew on those rowdy kids and that will stop them in their tracks. Lets see now, they are boldly breaking laws now by robbing, stealing, and killing, but a curfew is going to make them think twice. You got to love our elected officials.