Roman's TB-500 log...........

[AdrenalineJunkie]

My tendonitis has went down by at least half.

My concern now is whether or not the results are permenant or will return once I stop taking this pep

Half! Thats incredible. I have definitely noticed healing in my shoulder as well but i have a slap tear and havent felt near as much improvement as you, at least not yet.

[Times Roman]

Half! Thats incredible. I have definitely noticed healing in my shoulder as well but i have a slap tear and havent felt near as much improvement as you, at least not yet.

your injury probably is more severe than mine. i was one arm curling some heavy weight, and i actually heard/felt the tendon move/vibrate in my right arm. Almost felt like a rubber band ready to snap. but i immediately dropped the weight so the damage this time seems to be only moderate. the injury occurred while one arm curling 80lbs, and i'm already back to 55lbs, but i do NOT go to failure!!!

notthing really new to report today.

[Times Roman]

nothing new to report. still sleeping on my side and waking with brief shoulder pain.

today is arm/shoulder at the gym. did pretty good last week on Military press.

[RaginCajun]

Hey gramps, after doing a month of research, what are your pros/cons, or is it too early to tell? How are your knees doing with the HA shots?

[Times Roman]

today was chest day, and admittedly, shoulders are a bit sore. but i was able to get an intense workout, albeit didn't go too heavy.

I'd say TB500 is definately worth looking into. Not a miracle cure. But it does seem to have a noticeable effect. I'm hearing i should continue with a maintenance of at least 2mg eow, so I'm considering that.

and my knees. wednesday was leg day. did 20 reps with FULL range of motion at only 400 lbs. there at the end, i was being told by my knee i should stop, and not go any heavier. keep in mind, 400 at full range of motion is a helluva lot more than 400 with only partial range of motion. i'm talking heels hitting the back of the butt. but today, knees are feeling good. so very encouraging.

one interesting observation. my weight is skyrocketing since on TB500. Yes, must be a coincidence. From 225 to 235 in 5 weeks. yes, some of it is in the midsection. but looking a little fuller in the chest/arms/legs also. Some of this may be attributable to being able to more completely workout, and recouping some weight ffrom before while rehabbing and working out lightly.

[stpete]

I'm going to do more research on this stuff as i'm thinking i might use it after PCT. Or maybe there's a better time? I need some relief in my shoulders as well and this is defenitely worth a shot.

Good Log.

[Brazensol]

Does the fact that almost all of us have injuries to one degree or another mean we shouldn't really be doing our hobby/addiction/health improvment? Don't get me wrong. I love lifting weights and the wonderful things is does to our physiques but since I plan on living to be 100 years old I kind of want to be able to still wipe my own arse when I'm only 85 years old. In other words is this really healthy or do some of us tend to the American axiom; if a little is good then a lot must be better?

[Times Roman]

Does the fact that almost all of us have injuries to one degree or another mean we shouldn't really be doing our hobby/addiction/health improvment? Don't get me wrong. I love lifting weights and the wonderful things is does to our physiques but since I plan on living to be 100 years old I kind of want to be able to still wipe my own arse when I'm only 85 years old. In other words is this really healthy or do some of us tend to the American axiom; if a little is good then a lot must be better?

The trick is to learn to tone it down in our old age. So we modify our routines and learn to lift not so heavy, with higher reps. We also learn to not always go full range of motion on all our routines to protect our tendons.

But here's the alternative.

I'm 50. Most blokes my age sport a pretty decent beer belly, and the muscle atrophy process is well underway. Not only that, but most have a healthy case of high blood pressure, and cholestoral problems.

So given the alternative, I'll stick to the weights and learn to modify my routines so as to prevent as much injury as possible. And the good thing with a aging but healthy body is that when injured, the recovvery process/time is quicker and more complete than our beer belly counterparts.

[Brazensol]

The trick is to learn to tone it down in our old age. So we modify our routines and learn to lift not so heavy, with higher reps. We also learn to not always go full range of motion on all our routines to protect our tendons.

But here's the alternative.

I'm 50. Most blokes my age sport a pretty decent beer belly, and the muscle atrophy process is well underway. Not only that, but most have a healthy case of high blood pressure, and cholestoral problems.

So given the alternative, I'll stick to the weights and learn to modify my routines so as to prevent as much injury as possible. And the good thing with a aging but healthy body is that when injured, the recovvery process/time is quicker and more complete than our beer belly counterparts.

I am also 50 and, though I am a bit overweight at the moment, I would say I am healthier than 85% of other 50 year olds. Hell, probably healthier than 50% of men 10 years younger! So I do agree with you but these injuries sure are annoying. My problem is my brain has not caught up to my body age wise so I think I can still do what I did 20+ years ago. The good news is my thyroid meds and trt treatment seem to finally be kicking in and the weight is starting to come off. I have lost almost 10 pounds in the last 2 weeks!
My blood pressure and cholesterol have never been a problem. I have found lighter weight and more reps seems to be really helping my bicep workouts and not aggravating my tendenosis very much. It might actually be improving... but I don't want to get my hopes up to much.

[Times Roman]

my kid has a shoulder issue, and attempted benching again after a month hiatus. i don't think it went so well for him. he's been hinting to me he wants to try TB500

[Brazensol]

How is your forearm holding up?

[Times Roman]

How is your forearm holding up?

I've temporarily abandoned one arm concentration curls, the culprit that got me in trouble in the first place. for now, just cable curls. but the thing with cable curls is I curl the whole stack already. i think it is like 160 or something. and i do it about 10 times, so I'm no more room for improvement on that. I don't like preacher curls, as I don't like the weird angle. I have always believed that curls should be started at verticle, and then up to verticle, straight up.

I do have a bicep blaster, not sure if anyone even knows what that is. but it stabilizes the arms and helps provide better form. Just not sure I want to take it to the gym.

other than that, forearm feels good!

[Brazensol]

I remember the bicep blaster! Too bad on the preacher curls. That seems to be the one I tolerate the best and with lighter weights and higher reps I get a very good pump out of it. I use an EZ bar, gripped so my thumbs are rotated out as much as possible, and keep a very light grip so as not to stress the forearm. I was worried about using lighter weights not being effective but I am sore in just the right places the next day.

[Brazensol]

And good to hear about the forearm holding up!

[cindylou_38]

I will have to continue to follow this. Thank you for the heads up.

[Times Roman]

I'm such a dork! I wrote somewhere that I've been gaining weight since starting TB500. I even disclosed I knew it was a coincidence, but up ten pounds in 5 weeks. and yeah, some in the gut. So here I am, sipping my beer, wondering why the weight gain. Sip. Naw, it can't be the TB500, right? sip. So now I'm starting to put 2 and 2 together.... sip. I know what it is! I stopped with the cjc 1295 and the GHRP-6 (sip), so that i can get a very clean result with only TB500 (sip). So my son is, yeah dad, you're right. it must be that, since the peps help the pit release GH...

yeah, (sip) that must be right!

the good news is that it's not ALL in the gut, probably only about half (sip)

[Times Roman]

BTW, I am putting my money where my mouth is. Just ordered 60mg of TB500!

[AdrenalineJunkie]

I'm such a dork! I wrote somewhere that I've been gaining weight since starting TB500. I even disclosed I knew it was a coincidence, but up ten pounds in 5 weeks. and yeah, some in the gut. So here I am, sipping my beer, wondering why the weight gain. Sip. Naw, it can't be the TB500, right? sip. So now I'm starting to put 2 and 2 together.... sip. I know what it is! I stopped with the cjc 1295 and the GHRP-6 (sip), so that i can get a very clean result with only TB500 (sip). So my son is, yeah dad, you're right. it must be that, since the peps help the pit release GH...

yeah, (sip) that must be right!

the good news is that it's not ALL in the gut, probably only about half (sip)

Weird. When i started, i was continually losing but a few weeks in I leveled off. Now over the past couple days weight has been building on...I wonder myself.

Im going to contribute mine to labor day festivities and other factors. But if it keeps stacking on Ill let you know too.

[Times Roman]

Weird. When i started, i was continually losing but a few weeks in I leveled off. Now over the past couple days weight has been building on...I wonder myself.

Im going to contribute mine to labor day festivities and other factors. But if it keeps stacking on Ill let you know too.

I've been noticing strength gains, but attributed it to feeling healthier and diminished pain. Plus some additional weight. But you noticed it too? Well, let's both keep an eye out and see what's going on

[AdrenalineJunkie]

I've been noticing strength gains, but attributed it to feeling healthier and diminished pain. Plus some additional weight. But you noticed it too? Well, let's both keep an eye out and see what's going on

Ya- ill sum up my experience so far just for fun for you.

Healing- is noticeable without question. I would describe them as not vastly significant and far from fully healed. But being that my injuries have been long lasting with no sign of progress prior and not small injuries, even the slight healing is noticeable to me.

Strength- Im not a good candidate for TBs role in this. Im currently on EQ so any gains I am contributing to that. And I threw my back out nasty shortly after starting TB so was out of ths gym for awhile. Overall, yes strength has gone up. Is it from TB? Probably not.

Weight- While on TB I have watch my weight drop, almost 4 weeks in it leveled off and then the next couple days weight gains were significant. Thats where I am know. Im watching this and seeing which direction I go. I firmly believe the TB isnt causing the weight gain because I cheated over labor day weekend and then got sick so my nutrition was all out of whack. But when I saw you said you noticed gains about the same time I figured Id chime in.

I was really hoping to see my endurance go up on TB and so far I have only seen it go down and down. Again, I blame my injuries for the drop. But imho I would not be able to say TB promotes better endurance.

My overall opinion so far is TBs positives are plentiful and the negatives are questionable.

[RaginCajun]

glad you decided to keep this log going. i am thinking about adding it to my ipamorelin/mod grf1-29 cycle. i have horrible joints and connective tissue!

[Times Roman]

glad you decided to keep this log going. i am thinking about adding it to my ipamorelin/mod grf1-29 cycle. i have horrible joints and connective tissue!

If you are not taking 5grams of MSM a day, with joint problems, then you are not doing the easist / least expensive things first. PM me if you need a link to a real inexpensive source of MSM

[Times Roman]

Endurance - maybe slightly. I have only performed stationary 5 minutes pre workout only. this is NOT a good test! But it seems my pulse rate has dropped a few points during this trial. i haven't kept a record, so maybe I shouldn't even comment on it, as memory can be a tricky thing, and is not reliable. So for now, I will say no effect for endurance.

I am planning on hitting the weights hard first of october, and through the rest of the year. "Borrowing" StPete's 3:1 protocol which will hopefully improve my gains as well. I'm currently hovering arouund 235 and i'm guessing 17% BF (up from 15% last i checked a few months ago). I ordered enough TB to maintain for a few months during this period. So let's see how things work out on my plan.........

[Times Roman]

would like to start a trial of AICAR and GW1516, but I'd have to do one at a time, and then nothing else with it. If I wanted to take a semi scientific approach that is.....

[stpete]

Good deal. And i'm going to get me some towards the end of this cycle. And not sure if you noticed Times, but i'm switching day 2 and day 3 cause of my right shoulder issues. Throwing legs in the middle will give my shoulders another days rest. And actually, i probably should have been doing this all along.

I'm going to look at it some more and consider during PCT. Thoughts on that?

[Times Roman]

anything that gives the shoulders a break i'm all for. I just ordered 60mg of TB. I'm hoping this should squash shoulder problems for awhile.

btw... i only modeled your 3:1, but not the exact routines or days of routines. I have some peculiar physical problems, like no squats, or deads for me, so I have to taylor to something that won't cause me a lot of problems.

[Brazensol]

anything that gives the shoulders a break i'm all for. I just ordered 60mg of TB. I'm hoping this should squash shoulder problems for awhile.

btw... i only modeled your 3:1, but not the exact routines or days of routines. I have some peculiar physical problems, like no squats, or deads for me, so I have to taylor to something that won't cause me a lot of problems.

Is this TB500 something you take on a continuous basis or should it be cycled?

[stpete]

Cool. Let me know when you get it ironed out as i'd like to take a look. Might get ideas and learn something. And i'm all for that.

[AdrenalineJunkie]

Is this TB500 something you take on a continuous basis or should it be cycled?

After the first 6 weeks its taken once a month for upkeep.

[Times Roman]

this is interesting. i never really did figure out a way not to sleep on my sides. and i still wake up with some shoulder pain. but even that seems to be diminishing real slowly

[fries]

Keep up the log! I'm very interested in this peptide!
Have you noticed an increase in the "inflammation" of your tissue? I get terrible shin "pumps" and have terrible shoulders from rotator cuff injuries. If this works the way the "research" on it states, then it should make both MUCH better and would make running a cycle feasible.

Also, thank you for your service.

[Times Roman]

no, i have not noticed an increase in the inflamation of any tissue.

[Brazensol]

Wouldn't it actually cause a decrease in inflamation?

[Times Roman]

Keep up the log! I'm very interested in this peptide!
Have you noticed an increase in the "inflammation" of your tissue? I get terrible shin "pumps" and have terrible shoulders from rotator cuff injuries. If this works the way the "research" on it states, then it should make both MUCH better and would make running a cycle feasible.

Also, thank you for your service.

Wouldn't it actually cause a decrease in inflamation?

well, the question was asked and answered.

Now, i'm not sure what is causing the relief i'm experiencing. Not sure there was inflamation in the first place, and if so, haven't been able to measure it to see if increase/decrease (d).

[fries]

Apologies. I meant to say a decrease... I typed that last night at about midnight. Not many things to do that late here in Korea (without getting in trouble that is)

I appreciate your response though.

[Times Roman]

Apologies. I meant to say a decrease... I typed that last night at about midnight. Not many things to do that late here in Korea (without getting in trouble that is)

I appreciate your response though.

I lived in Korea many years ago, little province outside of Seoul. Place is called, and I'll spell it phonetically...

E TAY Wan

ever hear of it?


damn! it's been over 30 years since I was there!

[Times Roman]

Started a maintenance dose today and will go eow for awhile. Maybe twice. Then I'll go monthly. I'll let you know how that goes

[Brazensol]

Apologies. I meant to say a decrease... I typed that last night at about midnight. Not many things to do that late here in Korea (without getting in trouble that is)

I appreciate your response though.

Flew into Korea many times from Yokota AB, Japan. Lots of good times and I'm pretty sure the ones I remember are mostly mine...lol.

[stpete]

Cool.

[fries]

I lived in Korea many years ago, little province outside of Seoul. Place is called, and I'll spell it phonetically...

E TAY Wan

ever hear of it?


damn! it's been over 30 years since I was there!

Itaewon. Yes, I've heard of it. It's actually the biggest tourist/shopping area in all of Korea.


Yes there's alot of good times to be had in Korea. The problem is being able to remember them! On that note, I'm done drinking for a while. Had 2 weeks of celebrations and now it's time to treat my body a little better. Getting ready to buy some TB 500 from Ar-r, because I've used them several times and I only have good things to say about the product. (Except price ha).

I wont thread jack anymore Times, but I will continue to follow it and will start a log of my own.

I have a question about Subc injections in the abdomen. I carry ALL my weight in that awesome little tire around my waist, so do I need a longer needle to go thru the fat?