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    Ive heard a few times that you can mix the hcg, divide it into two different vials and freeze one so it will be more fresh for the second half of a cycle. Once frozen, once thawed out, then maintained in the fridge. Is this bs?

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    Mix the 5000 ius, fill your pins, then stick them in the freezer. Pull out the pin 5 minutes before you use it.

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    Thanks for the excellent information.
    One question:
    When should the HcG be started during, say, a 12 week cycle? Immediately? Week 4? 6? 10?
    If suppression occurs after 3-4 weeks then should that be the starting point for the 2x/week HgC injections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BADAXE View Post
    Thanks for the excellent information.
    One question:
    When should the HcG be started during, say, a 12 week cycle? Immediately? Week 4? 6? 10?
    If suppression occurs after 3-4 weeks then should that be the starting point for the 2x/week HgC injections?
    Start using it from week 1. Timing does not matter, just spread it out. Suppression does not occur in 3 to 4 weeks. The minute you inject, the process begins.
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    Just to clarify. 5000iu HCG is to be mixed with 5ml bac water correct? Why would his instructions guild him to use 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psaletta View Post
    Just to clarify. 5000iu HCG is to be mixed with 5ml bac water correct? Why would his instructions guild him to use 2?
    my formula is merely to simplify math. You can mix it however you want. Doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    my formula is merely to simplify math. You can mix it however you want. Doesn't matter.
    I just read your thread on HCG yesterday and mixed a new batch last night. That's why I was asking. Thanks aust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psaletta View Post
    Just to clarify. 5000iu HCG is to be mixed with 5ml bac water correct? Why would his instructions guild him to use 2?
    easiest way ive found!

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    Great article for future reference
    Thank you!

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    I watched the hCG video in the steroid profiles section they say that the body can become dependant on the LH effect from the hCG which can lead to permanant low test condition. Can somone explain this? thanks awesome thread btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by L-j View Post
    I watched the hCG video in the steroid profiles section they say that the body can become dependant on the LH effect from the hCG which can lead to permanant low test condition. Can somone explain this? thanks awesome thread btw
    What video? Please post a link.
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    steroid(DOT)com/HCG.php

    dont have 25 posts to put proper link. Vid is all the way at bottom of page

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    Quote Originally Posted by L-j View Post
    steroid(DOT)com/HCG.php

    dont have 25 posts to put proper link. Vid is all the way at bottom of page
    Video is outdated. We know more today than we did when the video was posted.
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    alright thx, love ur posts btw very informative keep it up

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    I even know more today then yesterday, I think. Let me check my notes....
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    So the stuff I purchased came with 1ml bottle of sodium chloride and bottle of 5000iu hCG. Does not sound right from everything I've been reading. Do I just mix the two? I bought multiple packages but amount doesn't seem right. Might be way off or was mistaken when I purchased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnoldtobe View Post
    So the stuff I purchased came with 1ml bottle of sodium chloride and bottle of 5000iu hCG. Does not sound right from everything I've been reading. Do I just mix the two? I bought multiple packages but amount doesn't seem right. Might be way off or was mistaken when I purchased.
    easier to use bac water. Get bac water and measure as listed in the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    easier to use bac water. Get bac water and measure as listed in the post.
    Will do. Thanks

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    Is it listed under another name on sponsored site?

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    First time using HCG, figured I would give it a shot after reading your article. Thx Austinite appreciate all the great educational articles

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    Is it possible to find hcg premixed ? And if doing IM. injections, Can they be done same day as test?

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    Ok, I have 5000iu hCG which came in a 1ml vial. Can I add 1ml to the hCG, then withdraw and put in 10ml vial. Then add 4ml to that to have my total of 5ml. Sound right? Sorry for confusion but hCG coming in such a small vial has confused me in what I read in your original post. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnoldtobe View Post
    Ok, I have 5000iu hCG which came in a 1ml vial. Can I add 1ml to the hCG, then withdraw and put in 10ml vial. Then add 4ml to that to have my total of 5ml. Sound right? Sorry for confusion but hCG coming in such a small vial has confused me in what I read in your original post. Thanks in advance.
    Add 1ml of Bac water that is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSuperAwesome View Post
    Is it possible to find hcg premixed ? And if doing IM. injections, Can they be done same day as test?
    Yes. HUCOG brand. Yes, they can be done same day as test.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arnoldtobe View Post
    Ok, I have 5000iu hCG which came in a 1ml vial. Can I add 1ml to the hCG, then withdraw and put in 10ml vial. Then add 4ml to that to have my total of 5ml. Sound right? Sorry for confusion but hCG coming in such a small vial has confused me in what I read in your original post. Thanks in advance.
    Yep.
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    Myth # 2: I cannot use hCG past 30 days (This is not true, use it for 2 months. It'll be fine)
    So If I plan on doing a 10 week cycle and hCG is only good for 8 weeks(2 months) I should start at the beginning of week 3 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smile View Post
    So If I plan on doing a 10 week cycle and hCG is only good for 8 weeks(2 months) I should start at the beginning of week 3 ?
    No. Start week one. the 2 months I mentioned was really just to show that the 30 day rule is nonsense. It never goes bad. It just loses 10% potency per month after about the 3rd or 4th month. So you can use it for as long as you have it. Just draw 10% more after the 3rd month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    No. Start week one. the 2 months I mentioned was really just to show that the 30 day rule is nonsense. It never goes bad. It just loses 10% potency per month after about the 3rd or 4th month. So you can use it for as long as you have it. Just draw 10% more after the 3rd month.
    Thank you for answering !

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    Added the following segment to the original article....

    Let's Clear Up Some Confusion About Handling hCG

    hCG needs to be refrigerated for the sole purpose of preserving potency. It does not "go bad", ever. hCG merely loses potency over time, and at a faster pace when placed at room temperature.

    hCG can be used for 90 days after reconstituting it. After 90 days, it loses approximately 10% potency per month. You can leave hCG at room temperature for about a week with negligible potency loss. No loss if it's in the early stages after mixing. After 90 days, you would simply increase dose to compensate for the 10% loss per month. So for those of you who travel, do not be afraid to take your hCG. No need to go through the extra measure of keeping it cool.

    The reason hCG generally does not arrive mixed, is because in some cases, it is frozen in powder form, which would preserve the compound for millions of years. This way you can thaw the powder and use it at your convenience. Some manufacturers ship premixed compounds, such as the HUCOG brand, which is extracted from pregnant rat urine.

    hCG is not as "fragile" as most of us are led to believe. If you prefer to minimize injections, you can combine your steroid compounds with hCG into the same syringe and inject. The only real way to destroy hCG is by freezing and thawing pre-loaded/premixed syringes, as the ice crystals tend to destroy the proteins. If you decide to freeze your mixed hCG, be sure not to re-freeze it, ever.

    The expiration dates are merely the length of time the potency was tested. This is also used/marketed so that you purchase more of this compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Added the following segment to the original article....

    Let's Clear Up Some Confusion About Handling hCG

    hCG needs to be refrigerated for the sole purpose of preserving potency. It does not "go bad", ever. hCG merely loses potency over time, and at a faster pace when placed at room temperature.

    hCG can be used for 90 days after reconstituting it. After 90 days, it loses approximately 10% potency per month. You can leave hCG at room temperature for about a week with negligible potency loss. No loss if it's in the early stages after mixing. After 90 days, you would simply increase dose to compensate for the 10% loss per month. So for those of you who travel, do not be afraid to take your hCG. No need to go through the extra measure of keeping it cool.

    The reason hCG generally does not arrive mixed, is because in some cases, it is frozen in powder form, which would preserve the compound for millions of years. This way you can thaw the powder and use it at your convenience. Some manufacturers ship premixed compounds, such as the HUCOG brand, which is extracted from pregnant rat urine.

    hCG is not as "fragile" as most of us are led to believe. If you prefer to minimize injections, you can combine your steroid compounds with hCG into the same syringe and inject. The only real way to destroy hCG is by freezing and thawing pre-loaded/premixed syringes, as the ice crystals tend to destroy the proteins. If you decide to freeze your mixed hCG, be sure not to re-freeze it, ever.

    The expiration dates are merely the length of time the potency was tested. This is also used/marketed so that you purchase more of this compound.
    What about in its raw form? I bought some 2yrs ago and its expires 2/14 but im not needing it for a few months. Will it go bad? Should I just reconstitution it and refrigerate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
    What about in its raw form? I bought some 2yrs ago and its expires 2/14 but im not needing it for a few months. Will it go bad? Should I just reconstitution it and refrigerate it.
    At room temp, powder should last several years. I don't have an exact figure for you. But you can freeze powder forever.
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    Another good read , thanks!

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    Just in case I did not say it before. NICE post. Very clear and to the point.

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    Not sure if this question was answered, a few pages to read

    So you recommend adding 5cc of the solution to the hcg. Would it hurt only adding 1cc to it so im only injecting 0.1cc per 500iu of hcg? Seem to see a few hcg's come with only 1ml of solution.

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    How take HCG when i am on TRT with Nebido 1000mg every 10 weeks? thnx

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    Quote Originally Posted by godzillaaaaa View Post
    Not sure if this question was answered, a few pages to read

    So you recommend adding 5cc of the solution to the hcg. Would it hurt only adding 1cc to it so im only injecting 0.1cc per 500iu of hcg? Seem to see a few hcg's come with only 1ml of solution.
    .5 cc for subQ injections only. if injecting IM do more if you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.diss3ct View Post
    How take HCG when i am on TRT with Nebido 1000mg every 10 weeks? thnx
    Check out the TRT forums. Lots of useful information there. This thread if for cycling purposes, not HRT doses.
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    Great post!

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    Man I really wish I knew about this before I did my first cycle. My question, is their any way to gauge the damage from not using hCG even if I only did 1 cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisG217 View Post
    Man I really wish I knew about this before I did my first cycle. My question, is their any way to gauge the damage from not using hCG even if I only did 1 cycle?
    If you have baseline blood work you can compare to post cycle blood work. Otherwise no.
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    Great write up austinite thank you for taking your time to write this. Quick question for you, I know you mix your hCg with b12, is this bac water included also? Example 1 ml bac water and 1 ml b12?

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