ask metalject anything?

[Capebuffalo]

Hey!
I have 14 months til my show. Now I'm wondering my bulk stuff. I have lots of deca and tren and test. Should I cycle like 8 weeks tren then change for 8 weeks for deca. I think I will use more anabolics than test but nothing is written in stone. Should I use only npp and tren ace or does it harm if I use long ester deca or tren. any other anabolics that you have used during bulk season before contest? 6-ghrp is it worth it? I have three years experience with steroids.

Curious of your stats and what class you are aiming for.

[carbman]

I'm now 200 lb and 5.7" and about 10-12 %. Aiming for show under 200 lb. So I have to collect some serious mass in the next 7-8 months.

[Capebuffalo]

I'm now 200 lb and 5.7" and about 10-12 %. Aiming for show under 200 lb. So I have to collect some serious mass in the next 7-8 months.

Those are some nice numbers. How old ?

[carbman]

I'm 25. I'm very serious about bodybuilding. It's my future, pleasure and destination. I can't wait for my first show.

[David PvP]

Metal what is you're experience with eq?i noticed i cannot control my diet right when i am on it...i frenzy and eat icecream,then i repent of the sin...but it hapopens more and more often...

[Metalject]

Metal what is you're experience with eq?i noticed i cannot control my diet right when i am on it...i frenzy and eat icecream,then i repent of the sin...but it hapopens more and more often...

I've never had any steroid increase my appetite or decrease it, at least not in the way people often mention. As far as its use, some here hate it and find it worthless, I disagree but it doesn't only serve a few specific good purposes.

*Good for adding more to a cycle when you don't want to increase the mg's of testosterone you're using or other items but you're looking for a little more punch overall, particular when using a lot of gear during prep.

*Low dose female use can be OK at times.

[David PvP]

I want to cruise for a month or two i feel my body tired,then i want to go on test aroung 1g/w,and hgh maibe 4-5 iu/day,what do you think,? is this suffice for a bulk?,or should i add sometin like eq or deca?

And another thing i wanted to ask you,did you noticed alot of people have very very different training styles but even tough they seem to do it wrong, for some it works,for example i have a stripper friend who trains 3-4 hours a day,allmost all muscle groups a day every day for 25 working sets per muscle group,but he look awesome,and he is only oh test 1k,winstrol,Tbol and a lil hgh,with a very weird diet,someting like 30 egg wites a day lots of chicken breast,""""0 fat""",and cycles carbs like crazy.i have a few friends who get theyre training done in 30 mins,other hamer it for 50 sets per muscle group,others dont do crap just pump and leave,what you're toughts on this one?

[Metalject]

I want to cruise for a month or two i feel my body tired,then i want to go on test aroung 1g/w,and hgh maibe 4-5 iu/day,what do you think,? is this suffice for a bulk?,or should i add sometin like eq or deca?

And another thing i wanted to ask you,did you noticed alot of people have very very different training styles but even tough they seem to do it wrong, for some it works,for example i have a stripper friend who trains 3-4 hours a day,allmost all muscle groups a day every day for 25 working sets per muscle group,but he look awesome,and he is only oh test 1k,winstrol,Tbol and a lil hgh,with a very weird diet,someting like 30 egg wites a day lots of chicken breast,""""0 fat""",and cycles carbs like crazy.i have a few friends who get theyre training done in 30 mins,other hamer it for 50 sets per muscle group,others dont do crap just pump and leave,what you're toughts on this one?

I'm not sure exactly what your question is regarding cruising simply because I wouldn't call 1g of test/wk a break. If you feel your body needs a break, come off everything or at least to TRT levels.

Training - everyone responds a little better to certain things. In my opinion, very few people respond well to very high volume training, they just beat the crap out of their body. Granted, if you're lean enough, even if you train like that you'll still look far better than the average guy, that's a given. And I sometimes wonder how many guys that do train high volume if they would look a little better if they didn't? Hard to say and impossible to prove if they never try it. Personally, I prefer lower volume. I wasn't always that way, when I started out I was very high volume (like most). High volume makes sense in our head. If I had it to do over again, I'd train 9-12 sets per body part once per week per body part, 8 rep range and if one week a certain body part was hurting (actual pain, not sore but pain) I'd lay off it that week or push back training it until it feels better.

[David PvP]

I want to cruise for a month or two i feel my body tired,then i want to go on test aroung 1g/w,and hgh maibe 4-5 iu/day,what do you think,? is this suffice for a bulk?,or should i add sometin like eq or deca ?


i meant afther the 2 moth trt period,and i see trt around 150 test/week.......

About training i somewhat share youre opinion,i too feel that my body responds perfect to a brief stimulation but very intense,short period betwen sets,very simple training,and around 7-9 sets per bodypart,i just wonder how can some people still train in the 30's sets and make progress.....wouldnt they be much better if they lay off the volume....???


And i want to share with you someting i experimented on yself,i can clearly say i cannot control my diet on EQ,i would eat a dead rat if i see one,even tough this is what i think i still like to include all posibilities,and another reason why i might think i cannot controll it is because i am doing it for too long...afther a while you get enough of the same chicken breast,same oatmeal,same crap every every every day.....

[Times Roman]

Brother Metal

Sorry for not showing up earlier. This could be my first time in the door. Just wanted to say hello and see how things are with you?

---Roman

[Metalject]

Brother Metal

Sorry for not showing up earlier. This could be my first time in the door. Just wanted to say hello and see how things are with you?

---Roman

Things are good. Just living life. Thanks for asking

[David PvP]

And i also wanted to ask you if you noticed the importance of stress in life and in muscle building? few weeks ago i had some problems and i was stressed 24/7 for a couple of weeks and i could feel my body turning in to shyt,no energy no drive nothing,and now afther things got alot better i feel i can fly,i think stress affects us more than we know....just saying

[Metalject]

Sure, stress can make things hard. For myself, if I'm really stressed going to the gym is a big help. It's the one place where I can block out all the things going on in my life, it's the one place where you can feel you have control over a situation when you may be lacking as much control in other areas of your life. Energy may be lower and you may feel drained, but once you get going into your workout things usually start to click.

Then there's food...I know a lot of people gorge and eat stupid when they're stressed. My natural instinct when I'm stressed is to stop eating, I lose my appetite. But again, staying on at least some level of consistency with eating along with training really helps me manage my stress.

[David PvP]

Sad to say i am one of those people that when stress is high i eat like a idiot....always feel guilty afther....and swear to myself it is the last time...

[cannix]

i need help with my contest prep please!
I am currently 5.5 weeks out of my first show. I am currently on 100mg test p eod, 40mg of var ed, 40mg of winny ed(oral), and .5 arimidex eod. I also had masteron but my at home tests determined it bunk so ill have to make due with what i have. i also have nolva, clomid, and exemestane on hand.
my question; what combination of the doses of the test, winny and the anti e's will get me to come in the leanest/dry as possible?
stats: 24yrs old, 5'11, 205 at 9% bf caliper tested as of week 6. diet and training done by my coach

[Metalject]

i need help with my contest prep please!
I am currently 5.5 weeks out of my first show. I am currently on 100mg test p eod, 40mg of var ed, 40mg of winny ed(oral), and .5 arimidex eod. I also had masteron but my at home tests determined it bunk so ill have to make due with what i have. i also have nolva, clomid, and exemestane on hand.
my question; what combination of the doses of the test, winny and the anti e's will get me to come in the leanest/dry as possible?
stats: 24yrs old, 5'11, 205 at 9% bf caliper tested as of week 6. diet and training done by my coach

Generally I increase anastrozole to 1mg/ed the last two wks of the diet. Seems to help dry you out, also makes you feel like crap though. Winny, 50-100mg/ed is pretty common. If I used winny I'd typically stay at 50mg/ed and sometimes increase to 100mg/ed the last 2wks or so. Testosterone, hard to say and I wouldn't attempt to without seeing what you look like. I've had diets where my testosterone dose was 1000mg/wk or more all the way until the very end, and diets where it was at a TRT level at the end...just depends on the situation.

[cannix]

Awesome thank you. that is my major hang up is doses leading to show, especially testosterone. my worst nightmare is keeping it in and looking watery on stage(literally a dream i had). I am on a carb cycling diet, with 2 low days for every high.

[Metalject]

Awesome thank you. that is my major hang up is doses leading to show, especially testosterone. my worst nightmare is keeping it in and looking watery on stage(literally a dream i had). I am on a carb cycling diet, with 2 low days for every high.

Being at 9% with 5wks left, you have your work cut out for you, I'm not saying it's impossible but it's going to be a rough few weeks. I'd worry more about losing the fat you need to lose than how dry you're going to look, at least at the moment that should be your only focus.

You're at the phase where things can really start stagnating when it comes to fat loss and often this is when changes need to occur in your diet and cardio plan. Small changes are normally needed throughout the diet but they can be a little bigger at this stage. I'm not saying to reinvent you're whole diet, just examine what's in front of you and ask yourself if you think you can drop another 5% in 5wks on the current plan as is.

[Mp859]

Just transitioning into prep and just started some mast e about 2 weeks ago. I have ran it multiple times but for whatever reason Ive lost my appetite. Normally would be fine if I was starting to diet but I was going to continue to try and hold size while the longer Esters build up. Have you had an issue with mast e doing this?


I was thinking about throwing an oral in but I'm scared now that my appetite has already diminished.

[Metalject]

I've never used mast-e, just regular masteron prop.
Sometimes I have a hard time eating all the food when I start a diet and I normally have an appetite that never ends, but dieting is different. Best thing to do is just to force the food down one way or another. Things will eventually click and your appetite will come back around.

[David PvP]

Did you ever had gyno problems? i am currently on prop 350/w,tren ace 700/w,and nippels are hard and sensitive,and i cant understand why since prop should not aromatize at taht low of a dose...also arimidex 0.25 eod,added vit b6 for progesterone since i cant find caber in my country,and diet is on spot only carbs in are oats,i want to start using nolva 20 ed but heard that it doesnt go along with tren,i might get my hands on letrozole in a couple of dayz ,you think it might help?

[David PvP]

btw added 2 photos of my progress in 1 year,the fat shed is about 77 lbs,and i still have alot of fat...i think i am around 15 % fat atm,and around 35 when i started

[Metalject]

Testosterone aromatizes regardless of the form of testosterone you use and regardless of the dose you're using. Gyno results in aromatization increasing estradiol levels to a point to where they activate the mammary tissue in the chest. Where this threshold is will be different for every man. But it's possible to develop gyno with a TRT dose of testosterone...it's not as likely as some tend to think but still very possible. So that would lend to gyno being possible with any dose of testosterone.

Nipples being hard and sensitive does not mean it's gyno, it could be a possible early indicator of gyno but it's not the best one. Your nipples can become more sensitive due to increases in libido. It's very common for men to start taking testosterone, libido goes up and nipples become more sensitive and more erect. Now this can become less common when you're taking massive doses of testosterone and other hormones, still possible (very) but a little less. Reason - libido functions best when everything's honed in. As you're at a lower dose of testosterone but still in the performance range, you may simply be at a more stable hormonal level and balance between testosterone and estradiol, therefore a stronger libido and more active nipples.

Advice - have your testosterone and E2 sensitive levels checked. If all looks good, then the issue is not E2 induced gyno. You may also want to see where progresterone is at. Tren is a progesterone and can activate the mammary tissue just like estradiol even though the Tren hormone itself does not aromatize. Tren induced gynecomastia is not as common as testosterone induced, but it does occur. If you need caber to help with this but have no access, try Prami, AR-R has it. I do not know if they ship to your area or not, I'm sure they can answer that for you.

As for my own personal gyno history, I had a decent size lump grow under the right side of my right nipple, not under the nipple but to the left. Started out about the size of a dime and grew to about the size of a quarter but rounder in depth. I took Letrzole 2.5mg/ed for 14 days, reduced to 1mg/ed for 1wk and it had for the most part subsided. I then switched back to anastrozole, 1mg/ed for a wk or two and then 0.5mg for the remainder. No issues since.

I have noticed in the past few months that the area around my nipples and front of my chest is a little flabbier than it's been in quite awhile. I'm hoping getting back on the wagon a little harder with diet and training will take care of it. But I do suspect (strongly suspect) that if I ever decided to bodybuild again, I would need to have my glands removed. At the age I'm at now and the past history of use and hormone craziness everywhere, I think full-blown gyno supreme would result if I didn't.

Oh and on the Nolvadex question, I'm not sure I can answer this as I'm not aware of Nolva having a negative affect on Tren. Maybe someone else can speak on that. But if the problem is gyno that is already rearing symptoms, I'd have very little faith that it can remedy it. If it's gyno that's already set in, and it doesn't sound like it from the way you described it but if it is, in such cases having it removed is all you can do.

Congratulations on your progress! You can definitely tell you've made notable and good changes, KEEP IT UP!

[David PvP]

Thanks Metal

[Wintermaul]

I'm curious about the off-season. How do you lay out a whole year when you got 2-3 shows?
All the talk is usually about contest-prep and i understand why, but how is the off-season. You explained that you need to do more gear when prepping for contest than the off-season but how do you "gear-up" in the off-season?
If you got spring-contests, of 2-3 or something, you save 12-14 weeks for the cut but the other weeks after contest or before you start cutting, do you just maintain? Or do you bulk up heavy to come back next season with loads of new muscle or what?
Would have been nice if you got time to give an example of a whole year, but i understand that its very individual.

[Metalject]

I'm curious about the off-season. How do you lay out a whole year when you got 2-3 shows?
All the talk is usually about contest-prep and i understand why, but how is the off-season. You explained that you need to do more gear when prepping for contest than the off-season but how do you "gear-up" in the off-season?
If you got spring-contests, of 2-3 or something, you save 12-14 weeks for the cut but the other weeks after contest or before you start cutting, do you just maintain? Or do you bulk up heavy to come back next season with loads of new muscle or what?
Would have been nice if you got time to give an example of a whole year, but i understand that its very individual.

A year for me would look something like this:

Jan-March (maybe into April depending on show date(s)
A lot of testosterone, fair amount of nandrolone, maybe rotating Tren and Nandrolone if a long off-season. Sometimes Dbol sometimes not - but it's never really used for any other than because it's fun with one exception. In some cases I've used Dbol to help break past a sticking point. For me, that's the only real beneficial use I've ever had for it.

After first 3-4 months of the year, start contest cycle. I might run only testosterone before the prep starts, but that just depends on timing and needs.
Run contest style stacks from April/May-August or September. That's only if doing multiple shows.

If only doing one show or a couple shows back to back, that means contest prep for 16-18wks and once shows are over stay on low dose of testosterone.

There were plenty of years Nov-Dec I ran nothing. Maybe 200mg of testosterone, or maybe not.

And there were years where I stayed on off-seaon plans for long periods of time, maybe 9 months of the year and then 3 months of prep. So those years was full gear use the whole time.

I never had a set thing I followed every year. Each year simply went the way I needed it to go based on the shows I wanted to do,

So as you can see, off-season cycles were fairly simple for me. I didn't mess with HGH during the off-season. Back then I could only afford HGH during prep. Funny, now that I have more money I have no desire to bodybuild...that's the way life often goes.

Sample off-season stack for me:

Test-e (usually Testoviron) 1000-1750mg/wk
Nandrolone 400-600mg/wk
I ran 800-900mg/wk of nandrolone a couple times but I felt very strange so I stopped.
If I used Dbol it would be anywhere from 50-100mg/ed
If Tren was used in off-season it would be preceded by 8wks of NPP and then I'd start Tren. I'd run Tren and NPP together for 1-2 was and then Tren only. If Tren was used, normally at 400-500mg/wk.

So again, as you can see more gear was used in contest prep. For example, although Nandrolone might make me feel weird at a higher dose in the off-season I'd run it at a high dose I prep, and Tren for me was normally 600-700mg during prep. Then add all the other things, it's just a lot of gear.

Is it/was it all worth it for me? Heck, I don't know. I don't have any health issues other than low testosterone - nothing life threatening. I did enjoy my bodybuilding time but it did cost a lot of money and you could call it wasted money. It definitely held my life back in many areas and it dies most who mess with it.

[David PvP]

What was your experience with EQ over the years?

[Mp859]

What was your experience with EQ over the years?

I'm curious about this too. Because I love running eq honestly. But you never see anyone on this site that likes it.

[Metalject]

What was your experience with EQ over the years?

Was the first steroid I ever used. I didn't really know what I was doing at the time. It was around 12wks at 400mg a week with the last 4 or 5wks having 50mg of Winstrol added in every other day. Gained some decent strength and looked a little better but it wasn't anything to write home about. As years went by and I figured out what I was doing I would regularly use EQ during the first 8wks of prep, normally around 200mg/eod. I think it's a decent steroid for prep, particularly the front end but for off-season bulking, if you're really looking to pack on size, it's not the best choice. Can you make gains? Yes, but there are better options.

[NACH3]

Hey Metal... Thx for sharing your planned out year when in off season to prep! Very interesting, I always knew many ran more gear during prep... But thought the off season was when/where they(any BB) tried packing on as much LBM as possible(as the pros are staying leaner now a days) and figured their blasts would be much higher doses for shorter durations(ie; Short Burst Cycling/Slingshot method etc)

I'm thinking(I'm on HRT already) but would like to transform my body further and in a year I think it's very possible... I'm looking to blast for 4-6wks at high doses... Bring test down(what would you say is a good dose(just upper end TRT like 200-50/wk)... BW.... Re prime... And hit another blast but if BW comes back gtg I'd like to do this for a yr or so... What are your thoughts! I do do some fitness modeling as well(so one of the many reasons to do what I'm planning plus to push the limits for myself!
Thanks Metal!

[Metalject]

Hey Metal... Thx for sharing your planned out year when in off season to prep! Very interesting, I always knew many ran more gear during prep... But thought the off season was when/where they(any BB) tried packing on as much LBM as possible(as the pros are staying leaner now a days) and figured their blasts would be much higher doses for shorter durations(ie; Short Burst Cycling/Slingshot method etc)

I'm thinking(I'm on HRT already) but would like to transform my body further and in a year I think it's very possible... I'm looking to blast for 4-6wks at high doses... Bring test down(what would you say is a good dose(just upper end TRT like 200-50/wk)... BW.... Re prime... And hit another blast but if BW comes back gtg I'd like to do this for a yr or so... What are your thoughts! I do do some fitness modeling as well(so one of the many reasons to do what I'm planning plus to push the limits for myself!
Thanks Metal!

What a pro does is anyone's guess and whatever you can guess is probably right as it pertains to the person in question. There are plenty of them that do short high dose blast and plenty who run longer plans. It just depends on what works from them. You get to that level and by that time you've usually figured out what works better.

As far as your plan, I assume you want to stay as lean and hard as possible due to modeling. If that's the case, just keep your testosterone levels where you feel best, don't get too worried about the actual dosing amount. You may need 200mg/wk to do that, but you may only need 100mg. When it comes to the transformation you're looking for, other items will be more beneficial. In my opinion, Tren and Masteron would be good picks. I don't know what your experience or comfort level with those steroids is but 300-500mg/wk of both can transform you in a big way. If you can add HGH to it then even better.

[tice1212]

. If you can add HGH to it then even better.

Since u brought up HGH I have a question. I really want to bring my body to the next level and I know that HGH can do that but I know I will need 5+iu ed, so pharmacy grade is out of the question and not just from me but from a bunch of people. Is Chinese colored tops the only other way to go around getting more for ur buck? People keep saying its crap but st the same time I keep seeing people that are on it making insane results along side AAS. is it best just to stay a way from it or is there respectable Chinese makers out there?

[Metalject]

The Chinese stuff is really the only way you can go unless you're filthy rich. The bad news is there's a ton of crap out there, but the good news is there's plenty of decent stuff too. It can be a role of the dice.

As far as how much you need, you always here people say you have to stay on it for a year or more to get anything out of it, I disagree. Yes, the longer you stay on the better but shorter periods of use can still be beneficial. 12-16wks of use leading up to comp can make a big difference in conditioning and your overall look.

[NACH3]

The Chinese stuff is really the only way you can go unless you're filthy rich. The bad news is there's a ton of crap out there, but the good news is there's plenty of decent stuff too. It can be a role of the dice.

As far as how much you need, you always here people say you have to stay on it for a year or more to get anything out of it, I disagree. Yes, the longer you stay on the better but shorter periods of use can still be beneficial. 12-16wks of use leading up to comp can make a big difference in conditioning and your overall look.

I gotta buddy who uses generics(or the Chinese stuff) he get bw all the time(but we know hes gotta get it while it's pulsing) but he even said I get some really good stuff and other times it's Sh!t! Like Metal said it's definitely a roll of the dice but he's gotten some great results(he's been running it for a couple yrs now(and he'll also switch back and forth from RX to generics(obviously the price)...

[OdinsOtherSon]

Metal, just finished reading the entire thread. Just wanted to say thanks for taking your time to share. Personally, I found your thoughts to be very beneficial and solid advice. Happy New Year bro!

[oldnsedentary]

Metalject, if one has poor genetics for this sport, is insulin use necessary to do well as an amateur? Can anybody, even with good genetics, turn pro without it?

[Mp859]

Metalject, if one has poor genetics for this sport, is insulin use necessary to do well as an amateur? Can anybody, even with good genetics, turn pro without it?

I know multiple top amateurs and they all use it on and off. But the initial big size they put is in part due to insulin IMO.

[Mp859]

Metalject, if one has poor genetics for this sport, is insulin use necessary to do well as an amateur? Can anybody, even with good genetics, turn pro without it?

I know multiple top amateurs and they all use it on and off. But the initial big size they put is in part due to insulin IMO.

[Metalject]

Metalject, if one has poor genetics for this sport, is insulin use necessary to do well as an amateur? Can anybody, even with good genetics, turn pro without it?

Necessary to do well as an amateur? No, not necessary.
Turn pro without it? Yes, you can turn pro without it.
Do well as a pro? Define do well? Win the Olympia? Probably not.

[SOL!D5NAK3]

I dunno if anyone asked you this or no but what do you think about synthol? I'm not talking about those crazy guys injecting the oil like crazy who look like idiots, but i'm curious about the science behind it and that whole thing about it can go into muscle fascia and make room for grow? Do you know anyone who used it?

* btwI'm not gonna use it for sure