Looking for a reputable brand

[Capebuffalo]

Found nothing but a pic of a guy with the words "here's the cream"over his groin area taken with similar lighting

Yup. That’s me.

[Quester]

This isn't Kimbo, this guy has a whole lot more drama than Kimbo.

[Obs]

Me in 2009. I’m 46. Reverse image me. See what you find. Lol. Guess my ugl sucked.
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Jesus you were lean... 4%?

[Obs]

This isn't Kimbo, this guy has a whole lot more drama than Kimbo.

Kimbo has become the term I associate with anything I dont like.
That little bastard locked my keys in my car a few hours ago.

[Capebuffalo]

Jesus you were lean... 4%?

I figure 6-7

Cut to 164. Should have stepped on 170

[Couchlockd]

I figure 6-7

Cut to 164. Should have stepped on 170

What was your weight in that pic?

[Capebuffalo]

What was your weight in that pic?

166 lbs

[pgc640]

I just saw a bottle of supposedly testosterone cyp 250 from a well known "reputable" US ugl that was sent for testing.
The bottle came back at 81.1mgs per cc of testosterone cyp. Not 250 mgs per cc as listed on the label. All you guys know this lab. I no longer deal with any US UGL products. Not only this but last summer I was using what was listed as 1000 mgs of testosterone Enanthate from another well known popular US UGL that is pushed heavily on these boards. 4 weeks in I got a blood test that came back at 1146. 1146!!!!!! On 1,000 mgs of test a week? Lucky if the shit totaled 200 mgs a week, a 1,000 mgs yeah right. Plus I've been repeatedly crippled by pip because the US labs have no idea how to Brew anything correctly. Do yourself a favor and forget these high school graduates running these pathetic US UGLs. Do some research, there are many good, legit sources in Europe.

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[Couchlockd]

I just saw a bottle of supposedly testosterone cyp 250 from a well known "reputable" US ugl that was sent for testing.
The bottle came back at 81.1mgs per cc of testosterone cyp. Not 250 mgs per cc as listed on the label. All you guys know this lab. I no longer deal with any US UGL products. Not only this but last summer I was using what was listed as 1000 mgs of testosterone Enanthate from another well known popular US UGL that is pushed heavily on these boards. 4 weeks in I got a blood test that came back at 1146. 1146!!!!!! On 1,000 mgs of test a week? Lucky if the shit totaled 200 mgs a week, a 1,000 mgs yeah right. Plus I've been repeatedly crippled by pip because the US labs have no idea how to Brew anything correctly. Do yourself a favor and forget these high school graduates running these pathetic US UGLs. Do some research, there are many good, legit sources in Europe.

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And you believed a 1000 mg concentration will hold?

Sounds like maybe you need to do some research, just saying.

It's all UGL unless it's straight from Walgreens, it's the same shit, just different location.

I've seen many European ugl's come back shitty as can be. Seen many come back above label claim as well. Dane goes for domestic UGL. Some bunk some stellar.

[Couchlockd]

Also fwiw, NO UGL IS PUSHED HEAVILY HERE. not even lightly.

[Chrisp83TRT]

I just saw a bottle of supposedly testosterone cyp 250 from a well known "reputable" US ugl that was sent for testing.
The bottle came back at 81.1mgs per cc of testosterone cyp. Not 250 mgs per cc as listed on the label. All you guys know this lab. I no longer deal with any US UGL products. Not only this but last summer I was using what was listed as 1000 mgs of testosterone Enanthate from another well known popular US UGL that is pushed heavily on these boards. 4 weeks in I got a blood test that came back at 1146. 1146!!!!!! On 1,000 mgs of test a week? Lucky if the shit totaled 200 mgs a week, a 1,000 mgs yeah right. Plus I've been repeatedly crippled by pip because the US labs have no idea how to Brew anything correctly. Do yourself a favor and forget these high school graduates running these pathetic US UGLs. Do some research, there are many good, legit sources in Europe.

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You're a fucking idiot lol


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[Chrisp83TRT]

I just saw a bottle of supposedly testosterone cyp 250 from a well known "reputable" US ugl that was sent for testing.
The bottle came back at 81.1mgs per cc of testosterone cyp. Not 250 mgs per cc as listed on the label. All you guys know this lab. I no longer deal with any US UGL products. Not only this but last summer I was using what was listed as 1000 mgs of testosterone Enanthate from another well known popular US UGL that is pushed heavily on these boards. 4 weeks in I got a blood test that came back at 1146. 1146!!!!!! On 1,000 mgs of test a week? Lucky if the shit totaled 200 mgs a week, a 1,000 mgs yeah right. Plus I've been repeatedly crippled by pip because the US labs have no idea how to Brew anything correctly. Do yourself a favor and forget these high school graduates running these pathetic US UGLs. Do some research, there are many good, legit sources in Europe.

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You're the fucking idiot going on every board trying to promote your euro trash gear and claiming you've been BB for like 30 years ... Go away bro . It's annoying

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[clarky.]

Also fwiw, NO UGL IS PUSHED HEAVILY HERE. not even lightly.

Exactly ^^.

[Obs]

Lol damn he is hitting all the threads with his broad spectum bullshit.

[pgc640]

Balkan #1 without a doubt

The rest are about the same

Victory
Ael
Pcom
Privatelabel
Flash
Monster
KOH
Naps
Ppl
Blah blah blah...

All the under dosing shit you hear is from no name newbies on boards and morons that just dont know how to train. Rarely and I mean rarely a ugl will get raws that are cut and send out a bad batch. It is never intentional and 99% of sources/ugl's will reimburse.

As for the "dirt in my vial" people, same here it never fucking happens but in extremely rare circumstances. If it does... They usually reimburse guys that arent dicks though they shouldn't imo.

Reverse scammers are everywhere and vial caps can be sat back on the vial and made to look like it hasnt been opened.

Most ugl gear is overdosed slightly.

He's right there is Ugl stuff that's actually overdosed. But, my experience, with US UGLs has not been the greatest. I'm far from a newbie, first contest I did was the 1990 teenage NJ. So I've been involved with this in some way for almost 30 years.
Last summer I was taking Test E 4 cc's a week, from a pretty well known US UGL, which should have been 1,000 mgs a week. After about 4 and a half weeks I got my blood taken. Total test came back at 1146. 1146!!!!! On 1,000 mg of test a, week? There is no excuse or explanation for that. Of course I sent him the printout of the blood test and he gave me 40 ccs as a replacement. He blamed it on just a bad batch or an unusually weak shipment of raws. I still have all 40ccs and no desire to use it. I can see something coming back a little Lower . 1146 is not explainably low. It means I was lucky if I was getting 200 mgs a week.
I also had another brand of test cyp analyzed once. It came back as 81.1 mgs per ml instead of the 250 it was supposed to be. I got 10 free bottles after that again all sitting in my place unopened. I'm not using anything from those 12 bottles ever.
You can be off but not 81 mg a cc off that's just fu kin robbery.
I've also had good experiences with a few US UGLs. It seems that a place called the growth clinic is pretty on, pretty good. I have a bunch of their stuff because a buddy used to rep for them. Even though they let him go he never bad mouths their stuff. And I've had good results with it. One thing is I HAVE NEVER, EVER BEEN HAPPY WITH ANY ORAL FROM ANY US BASED UGL. EVERYONE I'VE USED WAS HORRIBLE.

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[pgc640]

I found a couple results for Balkan, but I'm not sure which is the "right" one.

One of the things I'm specifically looking for is Winny in oil form, since that's easier on the liver(?).

The search continues

Winny in oral form is the same thing as Winny in water or pills. No difference on liver at all

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[pgc640]

No shit? Well that's discouraging. I have read that injecting winny is at least more effective than oral? Like to achieve X result, it'd take 50mg of oral but slightly less if injected. Is that true?

It sucks to hear that it's just as toxic, though.

No it's not true it's dose equivalent. If you take 30 mgs of Winny pills a day it's tge same as shooting 30 mgs a day.

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[pgc640]

If it makes you feel any better, ugl's mark up the stuff
Ten fold.
Literally x10

Or more

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[pgc640]

I’m very happy with our ... cough cough my source, yet I’m always looking at like 12-14 other sources ...I have no idea why

Think because so many things can happen, need back up. If they get busted, if quality drops for some reason(which I've seen happen)

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[pgc640]

Lol the online game is new to me. Outta high school I have always done it old school hand off style. But hey that’s why I’m here! Trying to learn the ways of the game lol

I started in 1989, before steroids were even a controlled substance and a bottle of real US test from a pharmacy was maybe $15.it was so easy, so cheap and everything was real before the steroid control act of 1990.
When they became a controlled substances, a CIII, the price skyrocketed, availability started disappearing and the fakes started. Within say 2 years there really was no more US pharma steroids available. Everything came from Europe and the price went from $15 for a straight from a US pharmacy 10 cc 200mg per ML bottle of test to maybe $8 per 1 cc 250 MG amp of European test. And it just got continually more expensive and harder to get the real thing.

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[pgc640]

I've been looking at Balkan my issue with them is their site indicates "signature require." These aren't ephedrine tabs being ordered from their site this is big boy stuff that i would not want to accept with a signature. I dont see this policy as being end-user friendly. In general the law says if someone sends you something you didn't order its yours to keep whether you paid for it or not. I have my deliveries to a pob if i show up and there is a free parcel i'll take it home and see what it is and if its a banned substance i didnt order i'll just toss it out. If i show up and there is a notice in my box that there is a package at the counter that needs my signature no thanks it can sit behind the counter and rot because -i didn't order anything.

I am a criminal defense attorney, just for background sake. Addressing accepting packages there are a few things you can do to ultimitly avoid any conviction and make it far safer.
I think everyone knows that no matter where you order from, , overseas or not, as long as you keep the amount of product to what would be considered personal use the government is not going to do a controlled delivery. In that case you'll get a letter telling you to bring a valid prescription so you can pick up your medication. A controlled delervery, when a law enforcement agent dresses like a post man, is very costly, involves more than two government agencies working together (something they are not crazy about doing) and unless the suspects spills his guts and doesn't keep his mouth shut its a very hard case to obtain a conviction. So, it's not really something you need to worry about unless you are recieving large amounts and frequent deliveries for resale.
If you are selling and they catch a large shipment and do a controlled delivery you are going to jail that day until bail is set. Now I never said you will be convicted of anything that depends on if you say anything(don't say a God damn thing unless it's to your attorney) and what other evidence they have. There are some precautions you can take that will hinder the prosecution in getting a conviction. If you sign for it or not really doesn't matter much. What you should do, now im talking if you have a package or multiple packages containing enough to be considered a felony intent to distribute charge. Fist thing, most likely the police will deliver the package then leave, wait 10-15 minutes until they figure you opened it then bust your door down. Once you get the package in big black ink write on the front return to sender not mine. Or something similar and do not open it. If something is going to happen it will Def be in first hour any longer your safe. If they do bust in with a warrant immediately demand an attorney, do not give any permission to search anywhere that is not explicitly in the search warrant. They have no right to without your permission so if you have 300 vials in your closet most likely your closet is not going to be in the warrant. But if you give permission then your fucked. Obviously they are not going to expect that one, it's not opened and two you have clearly indicated that this is not your package. That does not negate the warrant they will be able to open it and once they find a controlled substance that was delivered to you it will give them enough cause to make an arrest. So, like I said there is no way to dodge the fact that you will be in jail until bail is set. But AGAIN THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS THE ONLY THING THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH IS I WANT TO SPEAK TO MY ATTORNEY OR I HAVE TO TAKE A SHIT THAT'S IT!
LIKE I SAID THE CASE WILL DEPEND ON ALOT OF THINGS, IF THEY HAVE KNOWN ABOUT YOU OR THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT LUCKILY FELL IN THEIR LAP. If they have had knowledge of you dealing you have a Dea file which most likely contains allegations, possibly evidence such as pictures and if a person you know got busted there is always the chance he's the one who turned you in.
Now if it did just kind of fall to them and they have no other evidence or info and YOU KEPT YOUR MOUTH SHUT! This case will most likely end favorably for you. You immediately wanted to reject the package, it was not opened even if you signed for it is not any type of admission of guilt. Remember, you don't know what's in there, had no intention of opening it and were going to drive it back to the post office in the morning. From there let your lawyer handle it and hope for the best.

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[*Admin*]

ENOUGH BULLSHIT! I know who is in the pictures that are posted...

Everyone here knows I do not get involved ever! but I happen to know these pictures very well.... so enough... it is done.

[Obs]

ENOUGH BULLSHIT! I know who is in the pictures that are posted...

Everyone here knows I do not get involved ever! but I happen to know these pictures very well.... so enough... it is done.

Wow...
Do you think he is a criminal defense attourney?
Lol

I am impressed.
Lol!
Shared that to wickr group.
Guy has flung these pics on multiple boards