Gearheaded’s crazy EXPERIMENTS log

[Obs]

Me too! I am crying from laughing so hard.
I will behave now


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Its dead quiet other than me laughing. Gf will wake up and come into kitchen and give me a go to hell look and stomp back to bed.

[Old Duffer]

Btw: my shoe is 13 wide. Just sayin

[Charlie67]

Sorry GH...
I didnt mean to derail your experiment with dick measurements and fingers in my butt out in the twilight zone.

GH, you're a smart guy, but there's just no way in hell you saw this all coming when you started this thread, haha, lol.

[GearHeaded]

Update -

so I'm a little over a week into this 'mini cut' . I'm about 5-6 pounds down (sitting at 202). I have to say I feel better already. even though I'm doing 1 to 1.5 hours of cardio per day, plus weight training (often twice per day). my sleep is better. just feel a bit healthier .

I really think the FOOD is a big part of it guys. when your plowing down lots of food tying to bulk and put on size, that is really stressful on the body. more so then the drugs. its not like the high dosages of gear I was taking are magically out of my body (heck still on 1.5+ grams). nope, its the food. its no longer taxing me the way it was before mini cutting.

we talk about all these muscle building GENETICS that we have or other guys have. well the biggest factor in genetics to who can get the most muscular has to do with DIGESTION and ASSIMILATION.. whoever has a genetically blessed digestive system and assimilates all their calories well is going to put on a lot more muscle then someone who can't

[balance]

we talk about all these muscle building GENETICS that we have or other guys have. well the biggest factor in genetics to who can get the most muscular has to do with DIGESTION and ASSIMILATION.. whoever has a genetically blessed digestive system and assimilates all their calories well is going to put on a lot more muscle then someone who can't

Man that’s a lot of training per day with all that cardio in there.

Food and digestion wise it is crazy to even fathom what the ifbb pros at 250+lbs must consume. I remember reading about one of the pros daily consumption of sweet potatoes alone was several pounds (3-5 iirc). I can’t even begin to imagine that plus all the protein and fats. Surprising that the top level guys are not also top level competitive eaters.

[charger69]

I am getting into the kinetics and muscle science of exercises. Ie: how the muscles attach, the exercises to get a response , etc
My knees naturally point out at a 45 degree angle when standing straight.
Will pointing my toes in (knees straight forward) when doing quads and hams have better results? I know that toe position does effect the muscle development however if my toes are in, it is like someone else with the toes straight forward in regards to the knees.
I have moved my feet until my knees are straight forward and I do feel a difference. Is this just something in my head, or is there validity to it?


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[GearHeaded]

So I've been pretty swamped with some personal stuff that last couple weeks and haven't been around much.

anyways.. I'm done with this mini cut. the goal has been accomplished. I started to feel much better, I started sleeping a lot better, an hour of cardio was a breeze, my insulin sensitivity improved quite a bit , etc.. I shed about 11 pounds (two a day sessions plus a calorie deficit)

now its back to the mass gaining phase.

so I came off everything except for some mast and a cruise dose of test (which is 500mg for me). I added in some Winny. no hgh, no insulin or any other growth factors.

so now to continue the massing phase.
1-2cc of test E per day (dosed at 250mg/ml) . so 1500-2000mg+ per week.
Tren Ace - 100mg EOD
Tren E - 200mg 2-3x per week
Tren Base - 50mg pre workout
Masteron P - 150mg EOD
Dbol - 60mg per day (only for about 14 or so days to get my estrogen elevated while I run this Tren base .. tren base and dbol pre workout)
Insulin 30iu per day minimum, 45iu per day on large body part training days

Diet - I'm not going to track or plan anything. I'm going to go strictly by feel and just see how my digestion is and modify things along the way.
I'm not going to force feed myself. with the amount of Tren I'm running plus the slin I'm going to need to keep the Carbs pretty high (will take priority over protein)
my staple to start will be eggs, chicken, beef, white rice, potato, and whey shakes.


note: as I stated earlier in this log. I was going to be adding in a 3 or so week long Tren blast where I run close to a gram of Tren, but only for 3 weeks . This is that phase.

[Old Duffer]

Dayum!!

[GearHeaded]

Dayum!!

thats probably the same thing I'm going to be saying when I see my blood work once I'm done with this current massing "experiment"

[KennyJ]

thats probably the same thing I'm going to be saying when I see my blood work once I'm done with this current massing "experiment"

If your cholesterol is way out of whack after this will it get back to a reasonable level on it's own without medication?

[GearHeaded]

If your cholesterol is way out of whack after this will it get back to a reasonable level on it's own without medication?

my cholesterol is usually always in a pretty good range.
on a side note to that , for me personally (not for clients, just my personal choice) I don't really concern myself with cholesterol a whole lot. I don't think the connection between cholesterol and heart disease is that well established and has been way blown out of proportion so that the drug companies can push cholesterol drugs and make billions. the reality is, guys with lower cholesterol levels in general have an elevated mortality rate then guys with higher cholesterol. So I don't stress it one way or the other.

this is just my personal belief though.. for clients or other people I'm helping, I have a responsibility to concern myself with this and advise keeping blood work in range as best as possible.

for me (and everyone else in the world) I'm likely to eventually die of heart disease or a stroke. unless I get hit by a bus before then. this is essentially how we all go out. I don't really think my blood lipid panel one way or the other is going to make a huge difference in the big picture. so I'm surely not going to let it keep me up at night or stress me out.
if I need to take certain measures later on, I will. but I'm not going to chase numbers on blood work right now. I'll try to be as healthy as I can and let the cards fall where they will.
and again,, I'm not convinced by medical evidence that 'bad' cholesterol directly causes heart disease in the first place. so I can' worry about something that may not even exist

edit: if you have a family history of EARLY heart disease and cholesterol issues though. it definitely may be something you want to concern yourself with.. I'm just saying I personally am not concerning myself with it a whole lot

[balance]

You mentioned cardio twice daily. Was that two half hour sessions or two one hour sessions? If it’s the latter I doubt you will miss that!

[GearHeaded]

You mentioned cardio twice daily. Was that two half hour sessions or two one hour sessions? If it’s the latter I doubt you will miss that!

I would do two a day sessions. this including weights and cardio.
example -
11am - 1 hour of cardio - 25 mins of weights, mainly focused on touch up work (often times training the body part I trained the night before, but with light weight and just bringing in some blood).
5pm - 1 or so hours of weights (my main weight training split) - and then after weights 30 mins of cardio

so 1.5 hours of cardio per day total.

I don't recommend that for most people.. but keep in mind this was just a very short 'mini cut'.. the point is to be very aggressive . you can't start off slow and steady with a mini cut that only lasts 3 or so weeks . plus cardio works very very well for me

[GearHeaded]

just an fyi disclaimer here -

2 grams of test per week, 1 gram of tren per week, along with nearly a gram of other AAS is definitely NOT necessary for most you guys reading this log. For me a gram of test and 500mg a week of tren is really my sweet spot.

but keep in mind the context and title of this log being "crazy experiments".

a lot of guys have opinions saying that low dose is definitely the way to go and anything higher is just a waste and causing side effects. other guys will swear by high dosages. a lot of us have opinions , but not a lot of us have actually experimented on ourselves and really formulated that opinion based on real experience.

its like formulating an opinion about someone you don't even know. its not based on anything real. so too with AAS usage. lots of guys have their opinions, yet even some of the 'vets' probably only have a half dozen cycles under their belts and only ran a few different compounds over the years. how many times could they of really ran high dosage cycles with various compounds over the years if they only have ran 6 cycles total.
we all are entitled to our opinion, but often times its not based on anything substantial.

so sure I've read lots of theories. seen 'pro' cycles. understand how a lot of these things work at the cellular level to a small degree. I can explain in writing how high dosages can create more androgen receptors and illicit more gains over time etc. etc..
but my opinion, even for myself, has much more weight and bearing when its based on real world experience and self experiment.

so keep that in mind.. I'm running certain compounds at certain dosages for 'experiment' sake and not necessarily because thats the best thing for YOU or anyone else to do (even though doing things yourself will better help you formulate a valid opinion) .
I'm simply experimenting and trying to find out whats going to work best for me , and sharing that with you all

[kelkel]

I'm simply experimenting and trying to find out whats going to work best for me , and sharing that with you all

And it's appreciated.

[Obs]

Novolog at 10iu every two hours, all day.
Do it!

Its good for your body.

[GearHeaded]

Novolog at 10iu every two hours, all day.
Do it!

Its good for your body.

1000g of carbs per day
2000mg of test a week
1000mg of tren per week
100iu of insulin per day

those are all pretty round numbers, sounds easy breezy to me

[charger69]

1000g of carbs per day
2000mg of test a week
1000mg of tren per week
100iu of insulin per day

those are all pretty round numbers, sounds easy breezy to me

Easy breezy- just after I kill everyone because they piss me off.
Actually, I am more tolerant with people on tren because I know how to control it. I think to myself.... don’t try that when I’m not on tren because I will react. LOL
I tried 900 tren for two weeks- it felt like I wasn’t alive anymore. NFW will I try 1000. 700 was good.


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[MuscleScience]

1000g of carbs per day
2000mg of test a week
1000mg of tren per week
100iu of insulin per day

those are all pretty round numbers, sounds easy breezy to me

Damn man, I couldn’t imagine 1g of Tren a week...

[GearHeaded]

Damn man, I couldn’t imagine 1g of Tren a week...

yeah I only just started about 6 days ago and already feeling it. probably cause things are kicking in fast by combining the Tren E with Tren Ace and Tren suspension and injecting daily.

the 'being on edge' feeling, and restless sleep just started up last night . but keep in mind guys this is ONLY a 3 week long blast of Tren

[Old Duffer]

yeah I only just started about 6 days ago and already feeling it. probably cause things are kicking in fast by combining the Tren E with Tren Ace and Tren suspension and injecting daily.

the 'being on edge' feeling, and restless sleep just started up last night . but keep in mind guys this is ONLY a 3 week long blast of Tren

Don't forget to add in the '6 months off with good behavior'

[Obs]

yeah I only just started about 6 days ago and already feeling it. probably cause things are kicking in fast by combining the Tren E with Tren Ace and Tren suspension and injecting daily.

the 'being on edge' feeling, and restless sleep just started up last night . but keep in mind guys this is ONLY a 3 week long blast of Tren

I takes a couple months but my mentality finds normality afterward. Only side that seems to stay permanent is absolute dire sexual needs.

[GearHeaded]

any structural changes in jaw line and face etc. would have been from the very potent Androgenic aspect of Tren (5x more so then test). so running long term I'd imagine that is highly possible

[Old Duffer]

Thought provoking, but it's always about the sides isn't it? Your deca exa makes perfect sense. If Mr. Winky don't work anyway then crank it up!

But, as I recently learned, 350/wk tren meant sweats n dreams but 450/wk meant serious anxiety attack! A new side popped up at higher dose!

My other Q: if one can squeeze in 3 high dose runs (theoretical) in this same period, burning 3 times the gear costing 3 times the $$$, can you get 3 times the growth? Pounds of lean muscle/cubic dollar ;-)

[GearHeaded]

But, as I recently learned, 350/wk tren meant sweats n dreams but 450/wk meant serious anxiety attack! A new side popped up at higher dose!

yep this is fairy common. especially when upping the dosage for the first time or running a new compound for the first time.. individually we just gotta decide four ourselves what side effects we can tolerate or want to tolerate and which ones we don't.
for me, I will never run a high dose deca cycle for 14 weeks again (I've done it numerous times). I simply chose to not want to go through the anxiety and issues that I get with deca at high dosage for that long, and don't like that when I come off of it the problem doesn't just go away.
for me I've learned that 1000-1500mg of Deca for 6 or so weeks is just fine though.
trail and error and self experimentation . find out sides that work or don't work for you personally

My other Q: if one can squeeze in 3 high dose runs (theoretical) in this same period, burning 3 times the gear costing 3 times the $$$, can you get 3 times the growth? Pounds of lean muscle/cubic dollar ;-)

well you can only build muscle so fast and turn over protein at a fixed rate.. its very hard to speed this process up by a whole lot.
but, you can invest in muscle building 'potential' over time.
what does this mean.

well running multiple compounds and high dosages isn't going to magically speed things up so fast you put on 50 pounds of muscle in two weeks. it still takes the time it takes BUT, by incorporating some of the techniques I bring up with compound rotation and high dosage blasts etc.. your able to 'potentiate' and invest in more future muscle gains that are then realized at a later date.
example - running three cycles in one , instead of just one cycle , in a single 12 week time frame, you still only have 12 weeks to build muscle in that cycle wither its the thee or the one , but with the three you may get a much larger upregulation of anabolic factors (like your body producing a ton more androgen receptors) WHICH can then be used for building muscle more efficiently at a later date.

hopefully that makes sense.. its getting late

heres an comparison example
lets say you run HGH for 6 months at 10iu per day. well maybe in that 6 month time frame you don't put on a ton of new muscle (again you only put on 6 months of whatever muscle was possible in only 6 months) BUT, what you did not see taking place at the cellular level was the HGH creating more satellite cells, and cell nuclei and causing hyperplasia.. all of these things will then be able to be tapped into at a latter date and ultimately you will put on more muscle.
that 6 month run of HGH was just an investment in your FUTURE physique . a year down the road when you run a bulking cycle and blow up with a ton of muscle cause you have that much more muscle cell to blow up, you'll then realize what you accomplished in the past with the HGH run

its the same with anaboics and AAS strategies . a lot of times your running a cycle for a future investment in gains and not the immediate .

another thing to consider..
think of every different steroid as a different 'micro chip' containing its own set of information. when you run that steroid your plugging that micro chip into the cells and communicating that information to the cell and making changes to your DNA .
so by rotating compounds and running AAS with a cycling approach over time your communicating all these different muscle building 'communicatins' and permatnatly altering your cells and your bodies ability to build muscle as well as creating new receptors, and the receptors that are created while under 'said communication' from an AAS is then more responsive to that AAS when used at a later date.

your not just running cycles to build muscle TODAY . its an investment in your future physique .

ok , now I'm getting out there deep going all 'matrix' or something lol

[GearHeaded]

update - my weight is back up to 210 pounds. The Tren and high dose Test are in full effect (combining tren e, tren ace, and tren suspension definitely gets things going quick). Insulin is 30-40iu per day. I dropped the Dbol though after only a couple days , as it was not settling well in my stomach. I had ran out of my normal source of Dbol which never gives me problems, and I ran this new source that had sent me some 50mg pills to try out but I just don't like them.

I've been pounding the carbs. things are getting a little 'dirty' just to get some calories in. however I've never bulked past the point of not having at least somewhat visible abs.. we'll see how things look after adding another 5-8 pounds. I'm going to maintain cardio sessions 3 days per week, I just don't want to lose my fitness level too much especially being on this much tren

[Family_guy]

update - my weight is back up to 210 pounds. The Tren and high dose Test are in full effect (combining tren e, tren ace, and tren suspension definitely gets things going quick). Insulin is 30-40iu per day. I dropped the Dbol though after only a couple days , as it was not settling well in my stomach. I had ran out of my normal source of Dbol which never gives me problems, and I ran this new source that had sent me some 50mg pills to try out but I just don't like them.

I've been pounding the carbs. things are getting a little 'dirty' just to get some calories in. however I've never bulked past the point of not having at least somewhat visible abs.. we'll see how things look after adding another 5-8 pounds. I'm going to maintain cardio sessions 3 days per week, I just don't want to lose my fitness level too much especially being on this much tren

This is an awesome experiment log! Very interesting. Do you have any pics from when you started or currently?

[GearHeaded]

This is an awesome experiment log! Very interesting. Do you have any pics from when you started or currently?

heres a couple pics I've posted in this thread already .. I'll be updating these and doing some all new pics at the end of this current cycling phase.

[Family_guy]

heres a couple pics I've posted in this thread already .. I'll be updating these and doing some all new pics at the end of this current cycling phase.

Are those traps or wings by your neck? Shit! Look awesome dude. How tall are you?

[GearHeaded]

Are those traps or wings by your neck? Shit! Look awesome dude. How tall are you?

strict smith machine shrugs and Haney shrugs are what I attribute to my trap development. I've got them to grow upwards, now I'm just trying to get them to grow down my back now (thats a challenge).

I'm a bit over 5'9

[charger69]

heres a couple pics I've posted in this thread already .. I'll be updating these and doing some all new pics at the end of this current cycling phase.

Looking awesome!!!


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[balance]

Crazy taper! What’s your waist?

[GearHeaded]

Crazy taper! What’s your waist?

its 29" when dieting.. thats one benefit of having a small bone structure. of course it takes a lot more muscle to fill your structure out though (thats why getting to 220+ at my height and frame will be a bit of a challenge)

[charger69]

update - my weight is back up to 210 pounds. The Tren and high dose Test are in full effect (combining tren e, tren ace, and tren suspension definitely gets things going quick). Insulin is 30-40iu per day. I dropped the Dbol though after only a couple days , as it was not settling well in my stomach. I had ran out of my normal source of Dbol which never gives me problems, and I ran this new source that had sent me some 50mg pills to try out but I just don't like them.

I've been pounding the carbs. things are getting a little 'dirty' just to get some calories in. however I've never bulked past the point of not having at least somewhat visible abs.. we'll see how things look after adding another 5-8 pounds. I'm going to maintain cardio sessions 3 days per week, I just don't want to lose my fitness level too much especially being on this much tren

Is your slin fast acting or R? I think that I may graduate to fast acting.


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[GearHeaded]

Is your slin fast acting or R? I think that I may graduate to fast acting.

yeah I'm using R . I still plan on running Lantus combined with Humalog at some point here soon. the way my meal timing is the R works out really well for me with the secondary peak that comes in around the 2 hour mark, as I'm using Slin through the day and not just for workouts

IF your mainly using insulin around your workout , then fast acting may be a good option for you. a bit more rapid loading

[charger69]

yeah I'm using R . I still plan on running Lantus combined with Humalog at some point here soon. the way my meal timing is the R works out really well for me with the secondary peak that comes in around the 2 hour mark, as I'm using Slin through the day and not just for workouts

IF your mainly using insulin around your workout , then fast acting may be a good option for you. I bit more rapid loading

Can you give me the secret with R of being able to get in 40? I may try that. I like the R and am very used to the peaks,


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[GearHeaded]

Can you give me the secret with R of being able to get in 40? I may try that. I like the R and am very used to the peaks,

sure . well for one, don't even attempt it if your in any sort of re-comping or dieting phase and your carbohydrates are time restricted at all.
the key is to be able to eat at least 40g of carbs every couple of hours. By feeding yourself a steady supply of carbs all day you don't really have a lot of peaks and valleys.
also, by running higher dosages of slin throughout the day it increases your appetite quite a bit. so really every hour or so I'm craving some carbs.

I did go hypo once with this strategy. and that was during a workout. the problem was I was still taking the exact same amount of intra workout nutrition that I always take. I forget that even though my pre workout insulin dosage was the same as I've done for years, that I had injected insulin a couple other times already earlier that day. so now I simply run double the amount of carbs in my intra workout drink.

[Family_guy]

yeah I'm using R . I still plan on running Lantus combined with Humalog at some point here soon. the way my meal timing is the R works out really well for me with the secondary peak that comes in around the 2 hour mark, as I'm using Slin through the day and not just for workouts

IF your mainly using insulin around your workout , then fast acting may be a good option for you. a bit more rapid loading

I actually used Lantus at like 15iu a day a couple years ago. I wasn’t working out and I didn’t know what I was doing but I wanted to see what would happen. I went from 145 to 157 in like 5 weeks. Definitely gained some fat but not bad. It was pretty awesome to gain like that without doing much else except for eating and working construction!

Have you used Lantus before?

[Old Duffer]

Not to gum up your blog, but am I to understand that in most states one can just walk up to the walmart pharmacy n ask for Novalog-R?

[charger69]

Not to gum up your blog, but am I to understand that in most states one can just walk up to the walmart pharmacy n ask for Novalog-R?

Yes.


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