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[kelevra]

Hey Ron
I’m in the middle of week 5 of first 8 week reload. Test E @ 500mg weekly. I am keeping calories about 200-300 over maintenance in an effort to gain muscle while losing fat.
I started the reload at approx 275ish. Now I am hovering between 280 & 283. I feel the muscle is growing, but I certainly don’t feel leaner. Is that too much weight gain to not be adding fat. I don’t have exact macros with me, but this would be the approx count.
450 pro, 135 total fats, less than 30 sat fat, & about 330 carbs.
Carbs and Pro first 4 meals & fats pro from work out (5-6pm) on.
Diet looks close to this
8am shake 1 cups egg whites, 1cup skim, 1.5 cups oats, & 1 scoop whey.
10am Shake 2. Same as above.
12:30ish 12once Tilapia & half cup rice
3:30 ish same fish and rice, 12once Tilapia & half cup rice
5-6 lift
630 PWO 1cup milk, 2 scoops whey & 1 to 2 bananas.
7:30 to 8 Chicken burger. 66grms pro, 2.5 sat fat, 18 total fat, No carbs
10ish, shake # 3- 1cup egg whites, 1 cup skim, 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop protein blend.
Thanks Ronnie
Any advice is great!

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=kelevra;5577675]Hey Ron
I’m in the middle of week 5 of first 8 week reload. Test E @ 500mg weekly. I am keeping calories about 200-300 over maintenance in an effort to gain muscle while losing fat.
I started the reload at approx 275ish. Now I am hovering between 280 & 283. I feel the muscle is growing, but I certainly don’t feel leaner. Is that too much weight gain to not be adding fat. I don’t have exact macros with me, but this would be the approx count.
450 pro, 135 total fats, less than 30 sat fat, & about 330 carbs.
Carbs and Pro first 4 meals & fats pro from work out (5-6pm) on.
Diet looks close to this
8am shake 1 cups egg whites, 1cup skim, 1.5 cups oats, & 1 scoop whey.
10am Shake 2. Same as above.
12:30ish 12once Tilapia & half cup rice
3:30 ish same fish and rice, 12once Tilapia & half cup rice
5-6 lift
630 PWO 1cup milk, 2 scoops whey & 1 to 2 bananas.
7:30 to 8 Chicken burger. 66grms pro, 2.5 sat fat, 18 total fat, No carbs
10ish, shake # 3- 1cup egg whites, 1 cup skim, 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop protein blend.
Thanks Ronnie
Any advice is great![/QUOTE]I WOULD CUT CARBS BACK TO AROUND 250 PER DAY AND START LEANING OUT WHICH REQUIRES 1-2 POUND WEIGHT LOSS PER WEEK.

[kelevra]

Hey Ronnie,
I’ve heard you say there are many ways to run HCG. I found this write up on the forum and wanted to get your opinion about this part. There was no author or sited source. This is a small part of the full write up. Write up below.
Thanks

HCG should only be taken for a 4 weeks maximum.
If HCG is taken by male athletes over many weeks and in high dosages, it is possible that the testes will respond poorly to a later HCG intake and a release of the body's own LH. This could result in a permanent inadequate gonadal function. Cycles on the HCG should be kept down to around 3 weeks at a time with an off cycle of at least a month in between. For example, one might use the HCG for 2 or 3 weeks in the middle of a cycle, and for 2 or 3 weeks at the end of a cycle. It has been speculated that the prolonged use of HCG could permanently, repress the body's own production of gonadotropins. This is why short cycles are the best way to go.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie,
i’ve heard you say there are many ways to run hcg. I found this write up on the forum and wanted to get your opinion about this part. There was no author or sited source. This is a small part of the full write up. Write up below.
Thanks

hcg should only be taken for a 4 weeks maximum.
If hcg is taken by male athletes over many weeks and in high dosages, it is possible that the testes will respond poorly to a later hcg intake and a release of the body's own lh. This could result in a permanent inadequate gonadal function. Cycles on the hcg should be kept down to around 3 weeks at a time with an off cycle of at least a month in between. For example, one might use the hcg for 2 or 3 weeks in the middle of a cycle, and for 2 or 3 weeks at the end of a cycle. It has been speculated that the prolonged use of hcg could permanently, repress the body's own production of gonadotropins. This is why short cycles are the best way to go.

you can run higher dosages for more than 4 weeks without ever experiencing any negative effects like the article mentions so that's just someone's opinion. The truth is that everyone is different and there is nothing set in stone regarding the usage of hcg and it's dosing schedule. To prove my point about how different each of us are, my close friend who has been using test,tren and anadrol for the past two years just got his wife pregnant and hes never taken hcg because he has been on a non-stop 2 year slingshot cycle throwing in tren/drol here and there. We are talking 1-1.5 grams of test non-stop for the past 2 years except for 2 week deloads in which he went down to 250 per week.

Back to the answering your question- my experience has shown to keep it simple and go with what we know works (run small dosages of hcg while on cycle and larger amounts post-cycle) if having children is a priority.

[kisektah1]

Hey Ron,

Thanks for your help on making my cycle i just tweaked a few things:

Reload: (phase 1)
Wk 1 - 7: 450mg EW (EW = every week) Test p (Inj; M,W,F)

Deload: (phase 1)
Wk 8-9: 255mg EW Test p (Inj; M,W,F)

Reload (Phase 2):
Wk 10-16: 750mg EW Test p (Inj; M,W,F)

Deload (Phase 2):
Wk 16-18: 355mg EW Test p (Inj; M,W,F)

*HCG Week 1- 15: 250iu x2 EW (Week 11 & 12 off)
*HCG Week 16-18: 1250iu x 2 EW

Adex Week 2-19: 0.5mg E3D

PCT (4 Days after last pin):
Week 19-25: Nolva 20mg ED (40mg first 7 days)
Week 19-25: Clomoid 50mg ED
Wk 19-26: Tribulus 20mg ED



I just want to make sure i didn't miss out on anything on what i have read on deloads and reloads.

So during 'deloads' we should:
-Decrease our working sets but increase reps
-Change around our workouts (do different excersies)
-Increase Carb intake
-Decrease Protein Intake (1g lb of body weight)

And During 'Reloads':
-High Protein intake (2g+ lb of body weight)
-High Volume training (12 working sets per body part, 6-10 reps, heavy weight)



~Is that info on deloads and reloads correct? have i missed out on anything?
~And is my PCT and HCG use too aggressive? How long should i have off AAS before i begin my next cycle after this one? i still plan on having children in a couple of years.
~I'm aiming to gain about 15lb of lean mass, you recon that's attainable?
~Is there much of a difference on pinning test prop; EOD or (Mon, Wed, Fri)? will blood levels still be very similar?
~How can i reduce prop injection pain? b12?

Thanks Again RR!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ron,

thanks for your help on making my cycle i just tweaked a few things:

reload: (phase 1)
wk 1 - 7: 450mg ew (ew = every week) test p (inj; m,w,f) [b]should be weeks 1-8 not 1-7[/b
]deload: (phase 1)
wk 8-9: 255mg ew test p (inj; m,w,f) weeks 9-10
reload (phase 2):
Wk 10-16: 750mg ew test p (inj; m,w,f) weeks 11-18
deload (phase 2):
Wk 16-18: 355mg ew test p (inj; m,w,f) weeks 19-20
*hcg week 1- 15: 250iu x2 ew (week 11 & 12 off)
*hcg week 16-18: 1250iu x 2 ew run this weeks 21-22

adex week 2-19: 0.5mg e3d see if you can get by with .025 e3d
pct (4 days after last pin):
Week 19-25: Nolva 20mg ed (40mg first 7 days)
week 19-25: Clomoid 50mg ed
wk 19-26: Tribulus 20mg ed stop pct week 24

i just want to make sure i didn't miss out on anything on what i have read on deloads and reloads.

So during 'deloads' we should:
-decrease our working sets but increase reps yes-change around our workouts (do different excersies)yes
-increase carb intake yes-decrease protein intake (1g lb of body weight)yesand during 'reloads':
-high protein intake (2g+ lb of body weight) some can only tolerate 1.5 grams per pound of bw but some can go as high as 2
-high volume training (12 working sets per body part, 6-10 reps, heavy weight) its 12 sets max and many cannot do that many sets to good failure. I only do around 8 sets to failure for each major body part. You can also alternate between more volume and less volume every other week or how you see fit.
~is that info on deloads and reloads correct? Have i missed out on anything?
~and is my pct and hcg use too aggressive? How long should i have off aas before i begin my next cycle after this one? I still plan on having children in a couple of years. 6-8 weeks is a good plan

~i'm aiming to gain about 15lb of lean mass, you recon that's attainable? i don't know but i am thinking more around 8-10 is retainable because you'll lose water weight and some muscle
~is there much of a difference on pinning test prop; eod or (mon, wed, fri)? Will blood levels still be very similar? not a big diffeerence so mwf can work. I suggest using test-e or test-c in future as prop is too painful!~how can i reduce prop injection pain? B12? you can use it . I take it sublingual
thanks again rr!!

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[UnNatural-E]

Mr. Rowland,
I am on second reload currently and running..750 Test-E, 600 deca, weekly. I plan on bumping up too a gram of Test with the same dose of Deca or maybe EQ on my next. I am currently 220lbs and 14% bf.

I plan on starting my contest prep after next reload and was wondering if my Test is suppose to remain at a gram during the entire contest prep. I was also planning on switching to Test-prop at 250 eod and doing tren 75 eod with anavar the last few weeks. My buddy recommended some halo to squeeze in as well, but not sure where it would fit in.

I guess my real question is... does this sound sensible and am I on the right track. I am wide open to anything you recommend. I have seen nothing but results from following your philosophies on bodybuilding. Anything would be appreciated my good sir.
Thank you!!!!!!!!

[VASCULAR VINCE]

my tris grow easy doing 8 sets...biceps not so much...

[Ronnie Rowland]

my tris grow easy doing 8 sets...biceps not so much...You probably don't want to hear this but it's your genetics! If those biceps of yours won't grow doing 8 intense work sets per week then doing less or doing more is more than likely not going to make a noticeable difference! Just make sure you are using good form. You could also try doing upwards of 12 sets once a week and/or 3-6 sets twice a week. No need in worrying about things you cannot change as it's only a waste of your time. Your triceps will probably always be stronger than your biceps.

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[delta1111]

Hi Ronnie,
I've been loading and deloading for quite some time now and i'm just starting a 2 week deload today. I have mainly been using test, tren and masteron on reloads and test only on deloads. On my next reload, I wanted to use something different from tren and masteron and was wondering what you would recommend? I don't respond to deca at all in terms of strength or mass gains.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=delta1111;5583051]Hi Ronnie,
I've been loading and deloading for quite some time now and i'm just starting a 2 week deload today. I have mainly been using test, tren and masteron on reloads and test only on deloads. On my next reload, I wanted to use something different from tren and masteron and was wondering what you would recommend? I don't respond to deca at all in terms of strength or mass gains.Go with test and d-bol or test and anadrol![/QUOTE]above

[aj387]

Hey Ron, I've done 2 cycles in my life: 1 is test cyp and winstrol and the 2nd is test prop and tren ace. I got tren gyno on the 2nd cycle but zero sides on the first cycle... I say tren gyno because it was only tiny lump behind the nipples not the boobs that people develope... But while on cycle I had a small bit of milk production as well.. This is 6 months after the cycle and the small lumps never went away but are still sensitive.. My question to you is how do I reverse this if I can and How can I prevent more symptoms from reoccuring because I loved the test tren combo. I hear so many opinions I figured I'd come to the most experienced guys on the board.. From nolva to letro to arimidex to cabergoline! Would love your help and love your article at the top of the forum!! Please and thank you so much!!! or if you can recommend any compound that is identicle to replace the tren with could work as well!

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ron, i've done 2 cycles in my life: 1 is test cyp and winstrol and the 2nd is test prop and tren ace. I got tren gyno on the 2nd cycle but zero sides on the first cycle... I say tren gyno because it was only tiny lump behind the nipples not the boobs that people develope... But while on cycle i had a small bit of milk production as well..this is from having high prolactin levels and cabergoline will take care of this issue. This is 6 months after the cycle and the small lumps never went away but are still sensitive.. My question to you is how do i reverse this if i can and how can i prevent more symptoms from reoccuring because i loved the test tren combo. I hear so many opinions i figured i'd come to the most experienced guys on the board.. From nolva to letro to arimidex to cabergoline! i would use cabergoline and nolvadex to try and reverse gyno then change over to aromasin or arimidex as maintenance drug.. would love your help and love your article at the top of the forum!! Please and thank you so much!!! Or if you can recommend any compound that is identicle to replace the tren with could work as well! tren is in a category all by itself so no replacements for this steroid. However, GH would help you harden up.

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[aj387]

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Thanks Ron just one more thing... How about recomended dosages on all of these your recommending please? thanks very much for the response appreciate it!

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=aj387;5586669]Thanks Ron just one more thing... How about recomended dosages on all of these your recommending please? thanks very much for the response appreciate it![/QUOTE].025mgs-.05mgs of cabergoline twice a week, 20-40 mgs of nolvadex daily.

[lynxeffect1]

i was doin abs during the week and noticed when i lay back onda decline bench i found a lump forms jus above my belly button which looks and feels like a lump of water coming together because its not hard when i push on it, any ideas ron? i did gain a lot of extra water weight than usual on my first relaod last month when using anadrol, esp in stomch area and havent lost the water weight either , eps when not doin cardio. also since im tryn ur methods now ron, wot do u reccomend to keep the water weight off during reloads? , hate it on my face! taking 10mg nolva a day but not sure is it enough. wud cardio help this 2?

[Ronnie Rowland]

i was doin abs during the week and noticed when i lay back onda decline bench i found a lump forms jus above my belly button which looks and feels like a lump of water coming together because its not hard when i push on it, any ideas ron? I did gain a lot of extra water weight than usual on my first relaod last month when using anadrol, esp in stomch area and havent lost the water weight either , eps when not doin cardio. Also since im tryn ur methods now ron, wot do u reccomend to keep the water weight off during reloads? , hate it on my face! Taking 10mg nolva a day but not sure is it enough. Wud cardio help this 2?cardio wil help but most importantly reduce your over all body weight by taking down fats and carbs. Also, you may have a small hernia starting to form!

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[Juicedupmonkey]

Thanks ronnie I'll try winstrol and proviron with some test most likely. Injectable winstrol I'm assuming would be best. Isn't winstrol pretty bad for increasing LDL cholesterol? Would it be good to use it for a 20week blast?

Also I've heard a friend of mine talk about this person Alan Aragon. Apparently debunks the whole idea of having to split up your protein evenly throughout the day like you can eat all your protein in one meal if you want and there is no difference from splitting it up 6x a day and the whole GI index pretty much is useless that it doesn't matter if you eat ice cream or oats. Goes against everything I've ever researched and learned from others.
alanaragon(dot)com I'm wondering if you've ever heard of him? And if you have any opinions? You would have to read some of the stuff from that website to understand what he's saying as I can't explain it good enough

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks ronnie I'll try winstrol and proviron with some test most likely. Injectable winstrol I'm assuming would be best. Isn't winstrol pretty bad for increasing LDL cholesterol? It can be if you are prone so just take 25mgs daily. I would just do the tabs as they are stronger. Would it be good to use it for a 20week blast? I would not run winstrol for 20 weeks because of possible tendon damage. I would do 600 mgs of masteron weekly for 1st 8 week reload and see how you feel. I would try running proviron, masteron and small dosage of test before using any anti-es at all or even winstrol just to see how you react. Not a big fan of winnie unless getting ready for a show.

Also I've heard a friend of mine talk about this person Alan Aragon. Apparently debunks the whole idea of having to split up your protein evenly throughout the day like you can eat all your protein in one meal if you want and there is no difference from splitting it up 6x a day and the whole GI index pretty much is useless that it doesn't matter if you eat ice cream or oats. Alan believes all calories and carbs are treated equal if I remember correctly. I understand where he's coming from but you will not get as lean eating ice cream in comparison to oats. This is why you do not see pro-bodybuilders eating ice cream daily before a show. Alan does not compete and until you have actually been there and done it you can come up with all sorts of theories that won't work well in real life situations. Goes against everything I've ever researched and learned from others. Stay with what we know works. It could be that Alan is so smart in books that he does not have the best common sense in the world because he comes across a bit bookwormish too me.There's no way you can eat all the protein you need in one meal while on steroids. That's ridiculous! alanaragon(dot)com I'm wondering if you've ever heard of him? I have heard of Alan at bodybuilding.com And if you have any opinions? I can't say anything bad about him (i dont know him and hes probably a nice guy) but I disagree with his theories. IMO he gets into silly stuff you could argue forever and get no where. Just do the right things as there are no short cuts. 5-6 meals of protein are best and oats trump ice cream any day for fat loss and energy. But, not on taste..lol. You would have to read some of the stuff from that website to understand what he's saying as I can't explain it good enough I've read some of his stuff. .

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[The Titan99]

Hey Ron,
I'm in what would be the 8th week of my reload. The problem is I missed about a week and a half of work outs earlier on due to Dengue fever. Now I know that my cycle should be ended at the end of the 8 weeks (I just carried on with the Test/Tren/Proviron through the sickness). The thing is, I'm almost irresistably tempted to continue my reload for one more week. I have plenty of drugs and am still making excellent gains. What would you with this?

One more thing. This reload I'm doing 1 gram Sust/600 mg Tren Hex/50 mg Proviron ed. Thinking of deloading with 500 mg Sust, then 1.5 grams Sust/800 mg Tren E/50 mg Var ed/50 mg Proviron ed. I'm about 9% BF and slowly dropping but still looking for one more lean bulk before the big cut. I've been eating ulta clean, carb cycling, cycling clen and doing 35 min of cardio 5 days a week. Am I wasting the Var do you think? How about the difference between the Tren Hex and the Tren E other than strength per ml? Thanks!!

One last question. Tren gives me terrible insomnia. The only thing I've found that works is valium and I get it over the counter for next to nothing but I don't like it. It sucks next morning and it's fairly additive too. Sometimes 15 minute freezing cold showers work somewhat, but that's unpleasant to say the least... Any suggestions there?

[Corpsman]

I have been reading through your SST methods and have a few questions. I am 37, 5'7", 175lbs. I have been on HRT for about 10 years. I have a stockpile of Testosterone and HcG I have been keeping in case I ever decided to get off my butt and workout. I am like those "before" pictures you see. I have too much belly fat from too many years of drinking too much beer. But I am ready to change all of that. I want to look good with my shirt off this Summer. I know the SST is for experienced lifters but I was wondering if I could get help on a routine just for a beginner like me? Who could I go to to get a precise workout routine that tells me what lift to do, on what day, with how many sets?

Thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have been reading through your SST methods and have a few questions. I am 37, 5'7", 175lbs. I have been on HRT for about 10 years. I have a stockpile of Testosterone and HcG I have been keeping in case I ever decided to get off my butt and workout. I am like those "before" pictures you see. I have too much belly fat from too many years of drinking too much beer. But I am ready to change all of that. I want to look good with my shirt off this Summer. I know the SST is for experienced lifters but I was wondering if I could get help on a routine just for a beginner like me? Who could I go to to get a precise workout routine that tells me what lift to do, on what day, with how many sets?

Thanks

Go to the workout section and at the top of the page there should be a beginner 3 day per week STS program.

[J. Cole]

woah what a post haha great job

[The Titan99]

My tren hex supplier is calling it Parabolan. Without naming names I thought it might be bogus since it's spelled "Parabolin" (sic) on the box, but I've used it for 8 weeks and it is definitely something. It's dosed at 76.5 mg/1.5 ml. Odd, huh? This is my first tren cycle so I don't have much to compare it to, but it kicks ass on Deca, thats for sure!! Anyway, since I bought the "Parabolin" I've got a super source for Top-notch Tren E which I will start on my next reload. What do you think? I've been at 600 mg's on the hex, should I go with 800 mg's on the E? Sounds like a lot of tren, eh?

[Ronnie Rowland]

My tren hex supplier is calling it Parabolan. Without naming names I thought it might be bogus since it's spelled "Parabolin" (sic) on the box, but I've used it for 8 weeks and it is definitely something. It's dosed at 76.5 mg/1.5 ml. Odd, huh? This is my first tren cycle so I don't have much to compare it to, but it kicks ass on Deca, thats for sure!! Anyway, since I bought the "Parabolin" I've got a super source for Top-notch Tren E which I will start on my next reload. What do you think? I've been at 600 mg's on the hex, should I go with 800 mg's on the E? Sounds like a lot of tren, eh? I think I would try 600 mgs of tren-e to begin with because it may be stronger dosed than the hex. Parabolan and tren-e are comparable products but dosing can be different when coming from sources.

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[Bulkn]

Hey Ron, quick question, say for example I started on 750mg/week test E for 8 weeks, which took till week 5 to become fully effective, then deload for 2 weeks at 250mg/week, then I start reloading at 1000mg/week, how long before i feel the full effects of test E on the reload?

[Steve.O]

hey ronnie. ive been cutting for a good 10 weeks and dropped several percentages in body fat. ive lost a little bit of muscle but all in all i feel ive done quite well. i appear as muscular if not a bit more in certain areas because of the fat loss. in another 3weeks it will be time to do a lean bulk. using test and tren. after all this time cutting i feel my body will respond quite well to the bulk. i havnt been starving my body from food ive cut down responsibly to keep as much muscle as poss. but even tho ive done this i feel my body has been starved as a cut down from carbs fats etc. have u any tips for me to maximize muscle gain without gaining much fat when i next bulk.
Also ronnie im an ectomorph and a hardgainer but also gain fat if i dont watch my carb fat intake. pretty shitty genetics. besides that ive made some decent progress. what i want to ask you is do hardgainers need to train like hardgainers while on anabolics? ive never taken this into account while on previous cycles. what do u think? cheers steve.o

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie. Ive been cutting for a good 10 weeks and dropped several percentages in body fat. Ive lost a little bit of muscle but all in all i feel ive done quite well. I appear as muscular if not a bit more in certain areas because of the fat loss. In another 3weeks it will be time to do a lean bulk. Using test and tren. After all this time cutting i feel my body will respond quite well to the bulk. I havnt been starving my body from food ive cut down responsibly to keep as much muscle as poss. But even tho ive done this i feel my body has been starved as a cut down from carbs fats etc. Have u any tips for me to maximize muscle gain without gaining much fat when i next bulk. try keeeping carbs at around 250 per dayalso ronnie im an ectomorph and a hardgainer but also gain fat if i dont watch my carb fat intake. Pretty shitty genetics. Besides that ive made some decent progress. What i want to ask you is do hardgainers need to train like hardgainers while on anabolics? the hard gainer training philosophy is a myth! Here's how it works: If someone has great genetics like ronnie coleman or dorian yates they both grow by using either higher volume or lower volume. If someone has poor genetics they grow slow whether they use low volume or high volume and higher volume over a period of time ruins their joints-hence slowing down their progress. Both ronnie coleman and dorian yates were forced to retire due to injuries. Ronnie over did the volume and it eventually caught up with him and dorian trained beyond failure which eventually caught up with him. Both of these men would have maxed out their genetic potential using moderate volume (6-12 intense work sets) and i believe they both would have still been competing if they had followed that approach and yes they would have been just as big and probably even a little bigger due to keeping injuries at bay. So, the whole hard gainers routine is a myth. Training with high volumemay not appear to benefit hard gainers as much as easy gainers but neither does moderate or low volume. It's not their training routines but rather, diet, drugs and genetics that makes them huge (mostly genetics). Coleman and Yates would have been massive doing 8 worksets sets for quads once a week and they both would have been massive doing 12 sets twice a week. Moderation is the key for all genetic types and it save time in the gym and prevents injuries. BODYBUILDING IS BEST APPROACHED LIKE SPRINTING NOT A MARATHON RACE, REGARDLESS OF ONE'S GENETIC MAKE-UP! ive never taken this into account while on previous cycles. What do u think? Cheers steve.o

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[VASCULAR VINCE]

geroge farah says fats..makes..you fat...not carbs..your opinion ronnie??

[Ronnie Rowland]

geroge farah says fats..makes..you fat...not carbs..your opinion ronnie?? it's hard telling where he's coming from without reading it myself but as i have always stated too many carbs and/or fats will make you fat. I also believe that some healthy fats are necessary for muscle growth and holding on to muscle but he's right if hes saying too many fats makes one fat. Keep in mind geroge farah use to be somewhat of an advocate of the dave palumbo off-season diet which is fairly high in fats. Now hes into very high carb diets and very low fat. Different diets work for different people but most tend to do better with fat in their diet and no over doing the carbs.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=Bulkn;5589925]Hey Ron, quick question, say for example I started on 750mg/week test E for 8 weeks, which took till week 5 to become fully effective, then deload for 2 weeks at 250mg/week, then I start reloading at 1000mg/week, how long before i feel the full effects of test E on the reload? Test muscle building effects begin to show after 2 weeks not 5. Full effects are at around 8 weeks![/QUOTE]above

[kelevra]

QUOTE=kelevra;5577675]Hey Ron
I’m in the middle of week 5 of first 8 week reload. Test E @ 500mg weekly. I am keeping calories about 200-300 over maintenance in an effort to gain muscle while losing fat.
I started the reload at approx 275ish. Now I am hovering between 280 & 283.
450 pro, 135 total fats, less than 30 sat fat, & about 330 carbs.

Thanks Ronnie
Any advice is great![/QUOTE]I WOULD CUT CARBS BACK TO AROUND 250 PER DAY AND START LEANING OUT WHICH REQUIRES 1-2 POUND WEIGHT LOSS PER WEEK.

Thanks Ronnie the new Marco are 500 Pro / 255 carbs / 76 Fat, Weight peeked close to 287 last week, but began to lower a few days after the extracted carbs. I guess that was water due to fewer carbs.
Is there any probs with the majority of my Pro being from the egg whites? Other than the smell. LOL

[Ronnie Rowland]

QUOTE=kelevra;5577675]Hey Ron
I’m in the middle of week 5 of first 8 week reload. Test E @ 500mg weekly. I am keeping calories about 200-300 over maintenance in an effort to gain muscle while losing fat.
I started the reload at approx 275ish. Now I am hovering between 280 & 283.
450 pro, 135 total fats, less than 30 sat fat, & about 330 carbs.

Thanks Ronnie
Any advice is great!

I WOULD CUT CARBS BACK TO AROUND 250 PER DAY AND START LEANING OUT WHICH REQUIRES 1-2 POUND WEIGHT LOSS PER WEEK.

Thanks Ronnie the new Marco are 500 Pro / 255 carbs / 76 Fat, Weight peeked close to 287 last week, but began to lower a few days after the extracted carbs. I guess that was water due to fewer carbs.
Is there any probs with the majority of my Pro being from the egg whites? Other than the smell. LOL You can eat or drink as many as you want. Too many makes some people gassy beyond belief..lol..so find out how many you can tolerate. Important note: Over carbing and over eating can make you fat even while taking anabolics. Don't believe everything you read in those muscle magazines because unless you are one of those people who can eat anything and stay lean, don't over do it on the carbs. Most do not need more than 250-300 grams per day. Then plenty of lean proteins and some good fats. above

[lynxeffect1]

why is it that with sum brands i get severe pain after injecting and massive swelling to the point i cant move my arm after injecting into my shoulder last week, it went down to my bicep then and that was swollen very bad too cudnt move my arm, is it down to the powders used in mixing? squating used be my best movement, cud do 180kg for up to ten reps, but the past while im struggling bad with them , even 100kg seems very heavy, cud barely get 6 for 160kg and that was prob too heavy for me and the actual movement itself doesnt feel right ? is my body jus sayn no and i need to take a break from squatn, its strange cause my leg press is stil good ! d.palumbo states he only took 1200mg for 16 wks and then took 8 weeks off, everyone knows pros use very large doses so is he just a freak of nature considering he weighted over 300 pounds or just tryn to make people look out for their health ? because at that size it just doesnt seem possible that 1200mg is enough to maintain 300 pounds of muscle?

[djdizzy]

Ron, I am having the same problem as someone else wrote a few pages back with the area around the side of my elbow and doing lying tri extentions and tri pushdowns. Following you advice for him I will switch the pushdowns to reverse pushdowns but what is a good replacement for the lying extentions? I am also doing machine dips without elbow problems.

Also had a question about working muscles twice a week, you mention the second workout of the same muscle groups should be with lighter weights. are you saying then just straight sets (8-10reps) at a lower weight and not the normal 4-8prep, 4-6 heavy, 8-10 and then 12-15 of the heavier day?

Thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron, I am having the same problem as someone else wrote a few pages back with the area around the side of my elbow and doing lying tri extentions and tri pushdowns. Following you advice for him I will switch the pushdowns to reverse pushdowns but what is a good replacement for the lying extentions? I am also doing machine dips without elbow problems. INSTEAD OF DOING REVERSE PUSHDOWNS TRY REGULAR PUSHDOWNS WITH A ROPE AND THE MACHINE DIPS WILL MAKE UP FOR THE LACK OF NOT DOING LYING TRICEP EXT.

Also had a question about working muscles twice a week, you mention the second workout of the same muscle groups should be with lighter weights. are you saying then just straight sets (8-10reps) at a lower weight and not the normal 4-8prep, 4-6 heavy, 8-10 and then 12-15 of the heavier day? I would stay around 6-8 reps on heavy day and 12-15 on light day. Do a maximum of 6 sets per body part twice a week. You may find 3-4 sets are plenty and 6 is too much. Thanks

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[Ronnie Rowland]

why is it that with sum brands i get severe pain after injecting and massive swelling to the point i cant move my arm after injecting into my shoulder last week, it went down to my bicep then and that was swollen very bad too cudnt move my arm, is it down to the powders used in mixing? it's the high alcohol content-hence the reason i like thicke with less BA content. squating used be my best movement, cud do 180kg for up to ten reps, but the past while im struggling bad with them , even 100kg seems very heavy, cud barely get 6 for 160kg and that was prob too heavy for me and the actual movement itself doesnt feel right ? Is my body jus sayn no and i need to take a break from squatn, its strange cause my leg press is stil good take a break from free weight squats and start doing squats on a smith machine with feet pretty far out in front. Don't worry so much about the weight but rather how hard your are working your legs.! D.palumbo states he only took 1200mg for 16 wks and then took 8 weeks off, everyone knows pros use very large doses so is he just a freak of nature considering he weighted over 300 pounds or just tryn to make people look out for their health ? dave is looking out for peoples best interest-health wise imo. because at that size it just doesnt seem possible that 1200mg is enough to maintain 300 pounds of muscle? you have to take more to get that big because eating a lot of food like he did would only make you fat using 1200 mgs of gear then coming off for 8 weeks! He's not going to tell you what he really did and i can't say that i blame him because he may be looked upon by many as a guy who got huge by taking a lot of drugs instead of his, intelect, genetics and hard work. I've been told about some of the dosages he took but i would never tell anyone out of respect for him. I'm sure everyone understands. At least i hope they do!.

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[kelevra]

Tried your slight Decline bench today. I used regular BB bench and used about a 3-4 inch block to raise to a bit of a decline. It took a set or 2 to get settled in, but when i did i felt a positive stress deep in mid pecs. I went my normal weight that i use for flat BB, but was getting such focus on chest i pulled up a few reps short from almost cramping.
The more of your strategies i use, the better it gets. Mad props Ronnie for your time, effort, and knowledge. I know I speak for all that follow your thread. THANKS.

[Cronos]

Hey Ron! Quick question: I'm in the middle of my second 20 week blast, and this time I am trying out the method of running HCG @ 250iu twice a week throughout the blast. (Last time I just used your protocol of 1500-2500iu EOD for 2 weeks at the end)

My question is, since I am running it throughout in the manner that I am, I don't run it in PCT, Right??

What week exactly do I stop?

And should I ramp it up a little near the end, say 500iu twice a week for the last 4 weeks?

Thanks!!!

[ridedivefx]

Hi Ronnie,

I wanted to blast for a year and if that goes well then extend that to 2 years. During the reloads I use 500iu/week of HCG

1. Will this blasting through out the year permanently shut me down if I don't take a break or do PCT even though I use HCG.

2. Will the HCG through this year long blast allow me to have kids? Would I need PCT for that?

3. At what stage do I start PCT and give the system a break before I start the next Blast. For example If i wanted a break after a year of blasting then will I do the traditional PCT and then jump on another blast for year 2 OR go straight to year 2 blast

Thanks