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    LeanMeOut thanks for the awesome post man. im been workin out and using this diet for a while and have gained alot. feeling top notch!

    anyways my lil brothers are twins and they havve never been able to keep wight on. the one has figured out a good diet and avtive lifestyle and hes doin allright. that other however has had some health issues like mono and lots of infections. there still trying to figure out whats wrong with him. he recently droped to 134 lbs! hes 6 feet tall. so i put him on this diet last wweek and hes up 5 poubds allready . none of the 7 doctors that saw him could figure out a diet for him but this one seems to work. thanks man

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    Great post thanks alot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanmeout View Post
    the bulking primer
    by leanmeout & rambo @anabolicreview.com

    well since the old “how to bulk” thread was erased with the server issues, we have decided to create this post with the details of how to gain lean mass with minimal fat gain.


    First things first:
    There are many reasons that bulking diets fail but here are a few of the most common reasons:
    1) calories are not high enough and putting on muscle mass fails
    2) calories are too high and macros percentages are not in check. This in turn leads to putting on sloppy weight (fat) as well as muscle.
    3) you are bulking, not cheating. Cheat days will be factored in, but your food choices should still be healthy. All diets, whether cutting or buking, need to be monitored. This means that watching your insulin spikes and type of carb intake is still important.
    4) you are what you eat. It’s just that simple. to simplify, you eat crap and you will look like crap.



    that being said let’s talk calories and figuring out daily needs


    harris benedict formula for calorie calculations
    “the harris benedict equation is a calorie formula using the variables of height, weight, age, and gender to calculate basal metabolic rate (bmr). This is more accurate than calculating calorie needs based on total body weight alone. The only factor it omits is lean body mass and thus the ratio of muscle-to-fat a body has. Remember, leaner bodies need more calories than less leaner ones. Therefore, this equation will be very accurate in all but the very muscular (harris-benedict will under-estimate calorie needs) and the very fat (harris-benedict will over-estimate calorie needs).”

    that being said, there are is no concrete number of daily calorie intake your body needs, however using this formula will give you can idea of what you do need.

    Harris benedict formula for men
    bmr = 66 + (13.7 x weight in kilos) + (5 x height in cm) - (6.8 x age in years)

    notes:
    1 inch = 2.54 cm.
    1 kilogram = 2.2 lbs.

    Example of bmr
    you are 25 years old
    you are 6 feet tall
    your weight is 220 pounds
    your bmr is 66 + (1370) + (914) - (170) = 2180 calories

    harris benedict formula for men - step 2
    to determine your total daily calorie needs, now multiply your bmr by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:

    If you are sedentary - little or no exercise
    calorie-calculation = bmr x 1.2
    - if you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
    calorie-calculation = bmr x 1.375
    - if you are moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week)
    calorie-calculation = bmr x 1.55
    - if you are very active = bmr x 1.725 (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/week)
    calorie-calculation = bmr x 1.725
    - if you are extra active (very hard daily exercise/sports & physical job or 2x day training)
    calorie-calculation = bmr x 1.9

    total calorie needs example
    if you are lightly active, multiply your bmr (2180) by 1.375 = 2997
    your total daily calorie requirement is therefore 2997 calories.
    This is the total number of calories you need in order to maintain your current weight.

    If you want to gain body weight, you must consume more calories than you burn. One pound of body weight is roughly equivalent to 3500 calories, so eating an extra 500 calories per day will cause you to gain one pound a week. Etc….

    We have included an excel document created by elliot @ ar that will calculate your calorie needs for you, using the harris benedict formula.

    Elliot's harris benedict calculator for males:
    http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/
    download the document named: Harris-elliot.xls


    alright so now we know that you need extra calories to gain weight. So what should these calories be comprised of?? Well before we go there, let’s talk diet basics.

    The basics-
    1. Postworkout nutrition- i’m a firm believer that pwo nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin).

    2. Carbs- carbohydrates are a very helpful macronutrient when you are trying to gain lean mass. However, carbohydrates are only useful if they are used at the correct times. In my opionion carbohydrates are only necessary for 3 meals of the day. These meals include breakfast, your pwo shake, and your ppwo meal. Your breakfast and ppwo meals should be comprised of slow burning complex carbs that are low on the glycemic chart. Some good examples of low glycemic carbs are brown rice, yams, and oatmeal. Others may include whole wheat bread, whole wheat pasta.

    3. Protein- just like when you are cutting, you need plenty of protein. For bulking, a good rule of thumb is 2-3g of protein per pound of lean bodyweight. You should take in a good portion of your protein in the source of real meals, avoid intaking too many shakes, as real food comes to a better benefit. The list foods with high protein bioavailability is extensive, and i will only cover a few, (egg whites, lean steak, chicken breast, the list goes on forever….).

    4. Fats- efa’s (essential fatty acids) are extremely important in any diet. The list of benefits from taking in dietary fats i extensive and i am not even going to get started on it. I will just say that a diet which includes efa’s will yield much better results. Good sources of fat are ( flax oil, nuts, salmon, olive oil). Efa

    5. The separation of carbs and fats- this is a hotly debated issue, but again, in my opinion, an important aspect nonetheless. Remember that it is often when you eat items and with what you eat them that is more important than what you are eating. A mouthful, i know, but stay with me. Remember that when you take in certain carbs, you can spike your insulin levels. If you are taking in fats when your insulin has been spiked, you are allowing the basic laws of physiology to act out, and you allow for a higher propensity for fat storage. Separation is key. The sample diet will give a good example of how to separate them.


    6. Supplements-

    glutamine: Helps prevent catabolism. Best used in dosages of 10grams daily, 5 grams before cardio, 5 grams at another interval, but not after workout as it fights for absorption with the glutamine peptides in whey.

    Ala/r-ala- gets my supplement of the day award. R-ala is effective in lowering the spike of insulin when certain carbs are consumed. I could give you a dissertation on the stereoentisomeric properties of the r, but all you need to know is that it has been found to shuttle carbohydrates away from adipose and into myocytes. Translation: Away from fat cells, into muscle cells. It’s a supplement, however, not a miracle worker. It’s not a crutch, and won’t do anything about fat intake. Ala and r-ala can also aid in the expedition of the ketogenic state. Remember that if you buy r-ala that you supplement it with biotin. Glucorell-r is prepackaged with it. If you can afford it, go for it. As far as dosage, with the r, you are looking at 1-2 pills of glucorell r for each 30-40grams of carb intake.

    Protein and carb shakes: I’m not going to cover protein, because even if you can’t afford it, you should sell a kidney to get some. Carb drinks are rather convenient, and companies offer pre mixed dosages, (carbohit, glycoload, ultrafuel). Dextrose and maltodextrin can be bought from most supplement stores or online.

    Creatine: Unlike while cutting, creatine can be used while bulking since the water retention from its use will not be an issue since you are “bulking”. In the body, creatine is synthesized from the amino acids glycine, arginine and methionine. Taking supplemental doses of creatine monohydrate can increase muscle creatine and phosphocreatine (pc) concentrations by up to 40%. These increases can lead to improvements in muscle energy production and recuperation.

    www.allsportsnutition.com
    www.*************.com


    7. Cheating- cheating is essential. Why? Remember, the body runs on homeostasis, it likes to keep balance. After eating so well after a week, your body begins to adjust, and lean mass gain / fat burning over time will not be as rapid. The other extremely important aspect is mental sanity. So many diets crash and fail because people don’t give themselves a chance to breath. Remember, cheating is not an opportunity for you to pillage the entire mall food court. Shoot for a cheat meal, not an all out binge. A fast food value meal can be 2,000 calories. Eat that 3 times on one day, and you’ve consumed 6,000 calories. And that’s not good in any case.

    8. Cardio - d*mn right cardio!! Yes even when bulking. Why? Because cardio works the most important muscle of all – your heart. Not only that, but doing cardio 3 times a week will help keep the fat you will gain in this diet to a minimum. Cardio should be performed on an empty stomach first thing in the am. The proper cardio for burning fat is done by staying in your target heart rate for fat burning which is 65-70% of your max heart rate for a period of 45-60 minutes. To figure this out you can use the following formula:

    (220 – your age) * .65
    (220 – your age) * .7


    example for a 22 year old:

    (220 – 22) * .65 = 128.7
    (220 – 22) * .7 = 138.6


    from this we can conclude that for a 22 year old target heart rate for fat burning should be between 129 and 138 beats per minute for 45-60 minutes.

    Why 45-60 minutes?? Because fat burning (lipolysis) doesn’t typically kick in until the 20 minute mark, so only doing 30 minutes of cardio yields 10 minutes of fat burning. You get the point.


    **cardio disclaimer: Some people have a harder time gaining weight than others, and doing cardio might not be the best idea for these people. For others who wish to use the fat burning abilities of cardio but still gain size, 30-35 minutes of cardio 1-3 times a week may be a better choice. Remember it is your body and only you know what works for you.

    Now the sample diet:
    Note: This is a sample diet for our 26 year old, 6ft tall, 220 pound gentleman mentioned in the example above for figuring out calorie needs. This diet will not work for you if those criteria don’t apply to you; however it is easy to customize the below diet to take in account your own statistics. It is the principles that are applicable.. I am not going to post the total amount of calories, only the carb, protein and fat macros for the whole day.

    Based on the harris benedict formula above, our friend here needs 2997 calories a day to maintain his current weight. So in order for him to gain 1 pound a week, we need to increase his calories to right around 3500 a day since that will yield 3500 calories over his maintenance numbers needed for the week.


    meal 1: Pro/carb

    8 egg whites, 1 scoop of whey protein, 1 cup oatmeal

    50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat



    meal 2: Pro/fat

    lean ground beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

    55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat



    meal 3: Pro/carb

    chicken breast, 1 and a half cup brown rice

    55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g fat
    **disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.


    meal 4: Pro/fat

    2 cans of tuna, 1 tbsp full fat mayonnaise, veggies

    60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g fat



    workout


    meal 5: Pwo nutrition

    2 scoops whey protein / 80g of dextrose

    40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat



    meal 6: Ppwo

    boneless skinless chicken breast, ½ cup brown rice (measured uncooked)

    50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat



    meal 7: Pro/fat

    lean protein of your choice, 2 tbsp natural peanut butter
    50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat



    meal 8: Before bed

    3 scoops of whey protein, 1.5 tbsp. Flax seed oil

    60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g fat


    that turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 250 grams carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories

    *reminder: This is a primer. It’s not mean to be comprehensive. Everyone is different, to find out what works for your body takes trial and error.





    Here comes the fun part: Question and answer….

    Q: What about dairy?
    A: This is totally dependant upon your goals. If you don’t mind the bloat from milk then go for it. Skim milk is a better choice as far as mixing fats and carbs go. Remember you are bulking so you have more freedom in your dietary choices.

    Q: How often should i eat?
    A: You’ll have to do the math to see how often you will have to eat to get your 7-8 meals a day in. If your up for 16 hours a day, then every 2 hours is how often you need to eat.

    Q: Is sodium an issue?
    A: Outside of the bloating issue, or if you have high cholesterol, no.

    Q. How do i make my meals not taste like cardboard?
    A. Be creative. Mix in some sugar free jam or splenda in your oats, some hot sauce or soy sauce on your meats, or pick up some sugar free ketchup.

    Q. I don’t like old fashioned oats. Can i eat the pre mixed oats with fruit?
    A. No. Be a man. Those mixes have ridiculous amounts of sugar.

    Q. What about fruit?
    A: Go for it, like with dairy you are bulking. You have more freedom in your dietary choices.

    Q: What are some good sources of lean protein?
    A: Eggs, fish, chicken, steak, ground beef, whey protein, turkey….. The list goes on forever. Do a search and look through other people’s diets for ideas on protein

    q: What are some good sources of complex carbohydrates?
    A: Rice, pasta, whole wheat bread, yams, oatmeal…. Same as above

    as a final note we would like to thank swolecat and the rest of the diet forum participants for their help and influence on this post.

    And we will end this sticky with a quote:

    “your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”



    lmo & rambo

    --------------------------------

    sources:

    http://www.weight-loss-i.com/calorie...s-benedict.htm
    that is simply not true

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    I think part of my problem was not eating enough on weekends when I take my breaks.

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    This information is awesome! I have been searching for a scientific approach to diet geared specifically for body building.

    I'm new to the forum, and while I'm no expert, I've been lifting religiously for 2+ years. I'm small compared to most guys, but I've gained 23 pounds since beginning. I'm a retired thoroughbred jockey; probably the only jockey to ever join a weigh gaining forum!

    I've got a couple questions.

    First my stats:
    37 years old
    5'7
    145 lbs
    9% body fat
    My Harris Benedict = 2625 kcal per day.
    Questions:
    1. I've got my gear and am about to take my first ride. According to the information in this post 500 ckal per day will gain approximately 1 lb of weight per week. Keeping in mind that all bodies are individually unique, what is a good starting point of additional calories for me to target in order to get maximum effect for my cycle; ie how many pound(s) per week? (My cycle is nothing too heavy: sustanon and deca)

    2. My current diet is fairly undisciplined/unplanned. I eat four or five times a day and gravitate towards low fat, high protein, as much as possible. Protein shake immediately following morning work out, then again as a snack late afternoon. My dilemma is this: I have a very demanding job. I'm a single dad with a 3 year old. The only meal I cook is dinner; for my daughter and I. I must have easy to prepare, very fast meals, or this can never work. I take several turkey on whole wheat sandwiches to work each day(turkey, bread, mustard-30 seconds to prepare or I can't do it). I eat breakfast and lunch at restaurants with clients every day. So what can a guy with no time do? Also, I'm highly allergic to eggs...I longingly look at those little miracles of protein every time I go to the grocery store, but I can't eat them.

    Thanks!

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    really good post

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    Alergic to Eggs......that sucks. Sorry bud.

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    250g carbs lol

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    this was the best help anyone has given me to get started.. I can't thank you enough!

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    Guess I need to change my diet. thanks for the info.

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    Stats:
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    6'2" 245-250lbs
    bf 12-14%

    This is what I have been trying to stick to. Centers mainly around chicken and steak. I like to sub sweet potatoes and the occasional idaho spuds for the brown rice. I am trying to get around 5k cal/day.

    meal 1: Pro/carb
    8 egg whites, 2 scoop of whey protein, 1 cup oatmeal, 1/2 cup blueberries

    75g protein / 64g carbs / 5g fat

    meal 2: Pro/fat
    12 oz beef tenderloin, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

    76g protein / 2g carbs / 24g fat

    meal 3: Pro/carb
    2 chicken breast, 1 and a half cup brown rice (will sub with sweet potatoes)

    60g protein / 64g carbs / 3g fat
    **disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.

    meal 4: Pro/fat
    12 oz beef tenderloin, 1/4cup swiss cheese, green veggies

    76g protein / 2g carbs / 24g fat

    workout

    meal 5: Pwo nutrition
    2 scoops Dark Matter / 30 min later 2 scoops whey

    50g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat


    meal 6: Ppwo
    2 boneless skinless chicken breast, ½ cup brown rice (will sub sweet potatoes)

    60g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat


    meal 7: Pro
    2 scoops whey,
    50g protein /


    meal 8: Before bed
    3 scoops of casein protein,

    60g protein / 3g carbs /




    ANY SUGGESTIONS????

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    thanks guys, I am new here and feel at home already! I only crap 1-2 times a day tho lol.

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    yes, an old thread.... but!

    this link taking me to the Excel spreadsheet is no longer available. Anyone have a copy?

    "We have included an excel document created by Elliot @ AR that will calculate your calorie needs for you, using the Harris Benedict formula.

    Elliot's Harris Benedict Calculator for Males:
    http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/
    Download the document named: harris-elliot.xls"

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    This is a real big help. Gives me lots of ideas to help me plan better. Thanks to all who helped with this.

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    i always find myself reading this post.... i think this will be the fifth time...!!!!

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    awsome man thx. will try this b4 and durring my first cycle.

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    Great stuff!!! Gonna have to redisign my diet.. Thanks bro

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    I will put this diet to the test! Thanks for taking the time to put it together

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    Really good read thanks

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    I have a dumb question, should I be working out or just doing cardio during a bulk period. I know I am a rookie

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    will the first meal work for pre workout

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    Anyone else have a hard time taking down 1 cup of oatmeal? Any suggestions? That just a lot of oatmeal lol!

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    for years I still refer to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut View Post

    Meal 1: Pro/Carb

    8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

    50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat



    Meal 2: Pro/Fat

    Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

    55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat



    Meal 3: Pro/Carb

    Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

    55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
    **Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.


    Meal 4: Pro/Fat

    2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

    60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat



    Workout


    Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

    2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose

    40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat



    Meal 6: PPWO

    Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

    50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat



    Meal 7: Pro/Fat

    Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
    50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat



    Meal 8: Before Bed

    3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

    60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat


    That turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 250 grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories

    *Reminder: This is a PRIMER. It’s not mean to be comprehensive. Everyone is different, to find out what works for your body takes trial and error.





    Here comes the fun part: Question and Answer….

    Q: What about dairy?
    A: This is totally dependant upon your goals. If you don’t mind the bloat from milk then go for it. Skim milk is a better choice as far as mixing fats and carbs go. Remember you are bulking so you have more freedom in your dietary choices.

    Q: How often should I eat?
    A: You’ll have to do the math to see how often you will have to eat to get your 7-8 meals a day in. If your up for 16 hours a day, then every 2 hours is how often you need to eat.

    Q: Is sodium an issue?
    A: Outside of the bloating issue, or if you have high cholesterol, no.

    Q. How do I make my meals not taste like cardboard?
    A. Be creative. Mix in some sugar free jam or splenda in your oats, some hot sauce or soy sauce on your meats, or pick up some sugar free ketchup.

    Q. I don’t like old fashioned oats. Can I eat the pre mixed oats with fruit?
    A. No. Be a man. Those mixes have ridiculous amounts of sugar.

    Q. What about fruit?
    A: Go for it, like with dairy you are BULKING. You have more freedom in your dietary choices.

    Q: What are some good sources of Lean Protein?
    A: Eggs, Fish, Chicken, Steak, Ground Beef, Whey Protein, Turkey….. the list goes on forever. Do a search and look through other people’s diets for ideas on protein

    Q: What are some good sources of complex carbohydrates?
    A: Rice, Pasta, Whole Wheat Bread, Yams, Oatmeal…. Same as above

    As a final note we would like to thank SwoleCat and the rest of the diet forum participants for their help and influence on this post.

    And we will end this sticky with a quote:

    “Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”



    LMO & Rambo

    --------------------------------

    Sources:

    http://www.weight-loss-i.com/calorie...s-benedict.htm
    Hi, I like the look of this meal plan but I have a couple of question I hope someone can help me with. It doesn't mention the weight of the chicken breasts, would this be a 6oz chicken breast. What size are the tins of tuna, in my local shop there are a few different sizes, also they are all either in brine or sunflower, the brine would be ok yeah?. Last question, for the last meal, do I mix the 1.5 table spoons of flax seed with the shake, like does the oil mix ok in a shake?

    Thanks
    Dave

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    oils fine in a shake, brine or sunflower doesent matter i prefer sunflower make sure its got more mono than poly, youl find hidden saturates in the meat u eat, post workout i take fats!

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    great diet thread. wouldn't it be a good idea to take in a little bit of BCAA before cardio on an empty stomach?

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    take glutamine prior to cardio or 20 gs protein shake, theres a real good post somewere about cardio and muscle wasting if you can find it, the intensity of it is quite important to keep gains, u dont wanna go full wack keep it around 60 70% full heart rate, i think its a post by phate?

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    thanks. that was a good read too. should you take the protein around 25-30min before cardio? also, u say you take in fats PWO - immediately PWO? why exactly? i ask because there is a bit of controversy on this....

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    excellent post this will help me a lot.

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    interesting read and good diet for putting on lean mass

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    great post to read for a new comer. I have only tried pro hormone for a 4 week trial and i saw huge gains....I'm going to do my research to see what is best for me now. Thank you for the starting info...

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    started this diet today and will post my results in a new thread

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    holy crap that is alot. I will take this into consideration. you must be a mountain of a man to handle that

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    This is a superb and extremely helpful post! It definitely stands the test of time (7 years now!).

    If I may nerd out for a second, though...

    I didn't read all 5 pages of responses, but I thought I would point out for our international friends (I'm in the U.S.) that 'calories' and 'Calories' are not the same thing.

    'Calories' with a capital 'C' are known as food calories, and are equal to 1000 calories (with a lowercase 'c'). It doesn't really matter to us Americans because our nutrition labels show 'Calories.' However, Europe and other countries (I think maybe Australia) show 'kcal' (kilocalories) and 'J' (Joules) as their units of energy (Joules is metric). Therefore, just to clear things up:

    1 Calorie = 1,000 calories = 1 kcal

    Not that anyone in Europe would think they have to eat only 3 Calories a day. Just saying!

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    First time poster on a course of 200 test prop, 100 decanate, 100 enanthate and anavar tabs and tamoxifen. Month in after putting on 5 - 6 kilos so fare. Just wondering is my diet Ok as I'm new enough to steroids and not quite sure how much my food intake should be. Im 23 years old, 86kilos and 6"0 tall play soccer for an hour twice/three times a week for cardio is this enough also?
    Meal 1

    4 weetabix + milk
    6 egg whites

    Meal 2

    Post workout shake 50grams,
    Tub of muller rice

    Meal 3

    300grams of meat with 70 grams of brown rice/multicolred pasta + sauce

    Meal 4

    200grams of cod fillets in breadcrumbs

    Meal 5

    2 scoops of casein protein
    cheese sandwhich in brown bread

    10-12 hours sleep



    Just wondering should I be eating less/more? Im on a split body workout 4 sets of 12-10-8-6-12 on each bodypart so 8sets a day. day 1-chest/legs, day 2-back/shoulders, day 3-arms, day 4-rest day or cardio. Is this enough training? Just looking a bit of good advice basically to see if im on the right track.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by eire-lifter; 02-18-2011 at 07:11 PM.

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    shouldnt meal 8 before bed be casein protein not whey?

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    ^^^
    it should be casein yes

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    and why is this diet have 420grams of protein for a 220 pounder wtf..... thats like how much roid munchers need lol

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    and also..... 3500 calories a day for bulking?? which BMR did did u times that by ... sounds a bit low for a 26 weighin 2200 unless they train like twice a week ? lol

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    CASEIN before bed=MAJOR WEIGHT GAIN SON!

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