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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyMastur
    yes, in case you can't read his sig

    just messin with you there MB
    Ha ha Yeah I didn't see that

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    well...

    all i can say is that if they figured out who i was through some measely posts i trust them. i'm really messed up in the head still to this day but i would never steal a hardcore bodybuilder's money.

    A.A

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    phreezer its good to see you over here bro I'm sorry this is why though.

    Think about this. I have put almost 5 years of my life on theres boards. Was made a mod here on AR April 2002. I think I have built a rep over those years. I hope a good one. I am putting my rep on the line here knowing that a lot of people will think its a conspiracy. Would I do that not knowing 100% myself. I will stake my whole reputation on this being fact. And Dabull can stake his what 1 year maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RON
    Think about this. I have put almost 5 years of my life on theres boards. Was made a mod here on AR April 2002. I think I have built a rep over those years. I hope a good one. I am putting my rep on the line here knowing that a lot of people will think its a conspiracy. Would I do that not knowing 100% myself. I will stake my whole reputation on this being fact. And Dabull can stake his what 1 year maybe.

    Always been an upstanding individual from everything I have ever read from you. I dont think anyone could dispute this. Now get your f*cking lineup changed ass clown and take your beating like the dress wearing mouse you are!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne
    Always been an upstanding individual from everything I have ever read from you. I dont think anyone could dispute this. Now get your f*cking lineup changed ass clown and take your beating like the dress wearing mouse you are!!
    Yeah, seriously.

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    Amazing. This is why I dont get surprised by much. Good bro's gone bad.

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    EastCoast - then ask him about the PM's between him and Einy.....i wanna hear this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyMastur
    EastCoast - then ask him about the PM's between him and Einy.....i wanna hear this.

    I just did... I want to also

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    Like the old saying goes,

    You can spend a lifetime building bridges and be known as the bridge builder, but suck one cock and you will always be remembered as a cocksucker.

    Scammers are cocksuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilster
    Like the old saying goes,

    You can spend a lifetime building bridges and be known as the bridge builder, but suck one cock and you will always be remembered as a cocksucker.

    Scammers are cocksuckers.
    LMAO~this is definitely something for those inspirational office posters. Might have to create one to hang in my offices.


    This whole scamming issue doesn't effect me, but I'm sorry for everyone who lost their $$.

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    I have nothing but respect for Ron.. As I know him to be a good Moderator.

    I don't know everything that happened, but what I do know is, Einstein was a very respected member of my board. He started up a business pre-selling GH kits using that Rep as reason why he could be trusted. He took Tens of Thousands of dollars in Pre-orders from Members at my board... I don't know what happened after that, Frankly I don't care. He took money for a product he did not deliver on, He offered no explanantion, he just up and ran once the guys started asking questions. That, no matter what his intentions were, is nothing short of theft.

    For all of you guys who are trying to weight this thing out.. Please put yourself in the shoes of his "Customers" what if it were you that were out $2-3K... Would you sit back and consider what happened and be okay with the Mere possibility that he had good intentions of getting you your product? Or would you be pissed off and want either your money back or your product.

    There is no way around this.. He took money for a product he did not deliver.. If something fell through on his end..then he should have kept enough of the money on hand that he was able to pay back at least half of the $$ to those he owed. This was poorly ran right from the beginning.. and honestly, it falls under the oldest rule there is.. If it looks to good to be true, it probably is... and einsteins deal was just that..too good to be true... and guys forked over their money..and they didn't get anything for it.

    I have no beef with any of the staff here, and I like The Mods here as well... Ron, Cycleon, and even the System Admin

    So peace to you guys, and I'm sorry that one of your own tarnished all of your reps like this. LMK if there is anything I can do to help you guys out!!!

    Take care,

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    Poor Mass. The guy is too **** nice. I am sorry this had to happen to you bro. You are truly a great guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RON
    Poor Mass. The guy is too **** nice. I am sorry this had to happen to you bro. You are truly a great guy

    Agreed.

    scammers or not. Just plainly and simply a piss poor situation in the grand scheme.

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    Much thanks goes to MBaraso too for posting this in the open for the Meso guys to see. Many of them should have a take on this issue because there is quite a bit of money wrapped up on that board in Einstein. Thanks again MBaraso for all your posts and work!

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    crazy sh!t

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    Pale is a good guy.... a man whore but a good guy nontheless

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    it's gone offline.

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    I can't get on either guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyMastur
    it's gone offline.
    i can get right on .. hum

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttuPrincess
    i can get right on .. hum
    I'm back in, and it didn't even log me out.

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    I noticed, what happened?

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    So noone knew were einstein woulda ran off too?
    He's made remarks to me of where he's origionally from if it would help any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBuff
    So noone knew were einstein woulda ran off too?
    He's made remarks to me of where he's origionally from if it would help any?
    Perhaps canada but he could have lied.
    Like Keymaster mentioned...He told us he was moving so thats why we sat on this for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso
    Perhaps canada but he could have lied.
    Like Keymaster mentioned...He told us he was moving so thats why we sat on this for awhile.
    Wasnt that where the "reported" GH kits were coming from to begin with? Wasnt the story that he knew someone who had this great deal on GH/IGF in Canada and he was planning to remail them/buy and sell multiple K's worth?

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    I still want to know, how he can be taken off as admin if he is innocent yet still defended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    I still want to know, how he can be taken off as admin if he is innocent yet still defended.

    He is being voted on......and in fairness to the other mods who will comment he is being kept out right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    He is being voted on......and in fairness to the other mods who will comment he is being kept out right now.

    Sorry but I have to quote one of your mods/members on this issue. I totally agree with Bermich's logic in this instance. I know this is best discussed at AM but sorry I'm being lazy currently I have three boards up right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bermich @ Anabolic Monsterz
    It doesnt help Dabulls rep much but having an accused scammer as a co owner and admin of a board doesnt help the board. Well it actually hurts the board.
    For new members who stumble on a thread about the inccident and then see Dabulls status as admin and co owner would raise questions for the entire board. Not a good situation for a new board.
    Things will remain the same. The only difference is: Dabull wont have the title under his screen name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne
    Sorry but I have to quote one of your mods/members on this issue. I totally agree with Bermich's logic in this instance. I know this is best discussed at AM but sorry I'm being lazy currently I have three boards up right now.


    I agree it doesn't look good but it's not my board.....Mass has asked for a vote so there will be one. Just like people are voted on here......

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    I agree it doesn't look good but it's not my board.....Mass has asked for a vote so there will be one. Just like people are voted on here......
    Oops I thought you had some stake in it too. My bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    He is being voted on......and in fairness to the other mods who will comment he is being kept out right now.

    Maybe we should vote to reinstate Einy here? He seemed like a good guy when he was trying to get me to go in on his IGF1 deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RON
    Maybe we should vote to reinstate Einy here? He seemed like a good guy when he was trying to get me to go in on his IGF1 deal.


    Again this is NOT my board......so I can't say who stays and who goes. That is left up to the owner to decide.....please don't pin this on me because I feel scammers should be gone as well, but again it is not my call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Again this is NOT my board......so I can't say who stays and who goes. That is left up to the owner to decide.....please don't pin this on me because I feel scammers should be gone as well, but again it is not my call.
    I blame no one not even the board but WTF bro

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    Woah I come home from work and all hell has broken loose on AR. Thats such bs, I had so much respect for both of them and they turn out to be scammers. This just goes to show no matter how good intentioned a person seems to be on the surface, people will do anything to get a ahead - especialy with money.

    AR is without a doubt going to miss their expertise, but not their weak scams

    Unbelieveable

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    what a shame

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    indeed....

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    I'm going to bed on this note....gheez, fukin tragedy..but once again it is the internet and chances are you won't know any of these guys personally

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    No one is happy bro. But that will go a long way with restoring credibility to the board. Like I said its a good board with a lot of good people so I hope this doesn't harm it in any way which it shouldn't now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RON
    No one is happy bro. But that will go a long way with restoring credibility to the board. Like I said its a good board with a lot of good people so I hope this doesn't harm it in any way which it shouldn't now.
    All I want is this thing to end as I'm sure everyone else does as well so both boards can move on peacefully.

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    i just read all this and all i have to say is im seriously impressed with our mods. i applaude there fast acting and detective work. i personally feel safer knowing that our mods are taking out the garbage. i thought both of them were great people. but i feel the same way about all scammers. there all phuckheads, and so is einstein now. and dabull.

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    Sucks to hear that they folowed that path- bastards

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