2007-08 HGH Cycle 10iu's

[thunderin]

damn thunderin you are one strong mofo! Im doin real well for my young age but io can only HOPE ill be doing what u do someday. how many cycles have u done man?

Thanks. I honestly have no idea how many cycles I have run. First cycle at 16 (way the hell too young, and that was 26 years ago.

[thunderin]

Just switched over to all short esters.

*Note - my goal is a completely painless inject suitable for ed shots, not a high mg/mL content

Just made the following:

Test prop 200mg/mL @ 50mL
2% BA
25% BB
10g test prop
rest 100% EO

NPP 200mg/mL @ 40mL
2% BA
25% BB
8g NPP
rest 100% EO

Tren ace 200mg/mL @ 40mL
2% BA
25% BB
8g tren ace
rest 100% EO

.22 micron 30mm diameter sterile syringe filters used with filters replaced every 20mL. Why? EO can degrade PVDF filters, and thus, diminish sterility.

Why use EO? The solutions have a very low viscosity and should be painless compared to traditional oils like grape seed. I could easily inject this with a slin pin.

The solutions are amazingly clear as well. See photos below.

First inject:
300mg test prop 1.5mL
100mg tren ace 0.5mL (cough, cough)
100mg NPP 0.5mL

The solution went like as if it were water.
T+2 hours no pain
Will keep my fingers crossed

Cheap rubber stopper on the NPP. Got 2 small pieces broken off inside. WTH

[plzr8]

beyond jealous!!

[thunderin]

T+26
Still painless. Took the same amount again today.

Will try my eq prop tomorrow.

Feeling great.

[plzr8]

Will try my eq prop tomorrow.

uh oh, good luck!

[thunderin]

Since quad shots are my favorites, I had to dilute to 80mg/mL with sterile oil. Yesterday was my first quad injects.

200mg test prop
100mg tren ace
100mg npp
total: 2mL AAS @ 200mg/mL + 3mL sterile oil = 5mL total, 2.5mL in each quad.

*I am a real wimp for post-injection pain. This is absolutely painless, goes in so easy and is very suitable for ed use.

[thunderin]

Leg day: I have taken to training my legs every 3rd workout in order to bring them up to the level of my upper body.

Example:
Day 1 chest
Day 2 back
Day 3 legs
Day 4 arms
Day 5 shoulders
Day 6 legs
Day 7 & 8 rest

Tonight was one of the best leg workouts I can remember.

Professional 2-tier (2 different levels to hold more plates) leg press. Each set followed by calf presses on the same machine. New gym has only lbs on the weights, no more kg. Must be imports.

225lbs x 15
405lbs x 12
585lbs x 10
765lbs x 10
945lbs x 10
1125lbs x 10
1125lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
945lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
765lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
585lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
405lbs x 12 Drop set from hell
Crawl away and almost vomit

Drop set from hell means no rest between sets all to complete exhaustion.

Leg extensions
Leg curls
Calf raises

My PWO therapy: 1 bucket of KFC extra crispy chicken with 3 pieces of corn and 3 mashed potatoes, shower and sleep.

[flash31]

Thunderin, you mentioned shooting your brew with a slin pin. What size slin pin do you use? Are you having trouble with shooting NPP and tren with slin pins??

[thunderin]

Just a short note to sat thanks for the time here on this board and to all the members who have made my stay here a good one.

Good luck, be smart and thanks.

[plzr8]

Just a short note to sat thanks for the time here on this board and to all the members who have made my stay here a good one.

Good luck, be smart and thanks.

sad to see you go bro...many of us have enjoyed your detailed log & input

hope everything is OK...all the best

-plzr8

[Titleist]

sad to see you go bro...many of us have enjoyed your detailed log & input

hope everything is OK...all the best

-plzr8

I agree 100%.

This is the best log I have ever read, bar none.

Much respect brotha.

-Titleist

[finny]

Great log, sorry to see you go - hope everything is ok...

Hmmm, all the pics are gone. I was going to look over some pics today, but noticed that they're all gone...

[Big]

When will you post some more pics?

[thunderin]

Give me a couple of weeks pls. Feel like a stuffed pig most of the time now.

[BJJ ANDY]

Sorry Thunderin but i would love to see a stuffed pig who's on 2,1 g's of test ew and with a strength of a kodiak bear.

[ironaddict69]

yeah thunderin, you might think u look bloated or whatever, but wed still love to see it. you have an amazing physique, id love to see the literal "off season" big bulk if you will.

[thunderin]

Here I am the stuffed pig with huge stomach at 103kg (226lbs) tonight. This is after eating 3 double cheeseburgers and a large Coke.

[thunderin]

How do I spell relief? Blood donation

After giving 800mL, my skin color turned from bright red to a normal hue. My dizziness and throbbing head gave way to a wonderful sense of not feeling so bloated by all that extra blood....aaaaahhhhhhhh.

Got to do this every 6 weeks.

[ironaddict69]

Here I am the stuffed pig with huge stomach at 103kg (226lbs) tonight. This is after eating 3 double cheeseburgers and a large Coke.

wow i expected something much worse. lol, dude u look good. solid base, its amazing, your about 7 lbsd heavier than me, but lill look as big as you when im 240. good base man!

[goin on 4T]

I have been reading this thread for quite a while now and have gotten a tremendous amount of knowledge from you Thunderin! Thank you!

One thing I have to say is good thing they clean the blood before they transfer it to someone else!!! No offense but damn. That would be like getting Superman's blood. LOL

[taiboxa]

u know.. u got a giant pixil stuck to ur right tri.. might wanna have that thing looked into.

[ironaddict69]

u know.. u got a giant pixil stuck to ur right tri.. might wanna have that thing looked into.

ahahaha. were gunna be the only ones that get and laugh at that.

[thunderin]

I have been reading this thread for quite a while now and have gotten a tremendous amount of knowledge from you Thunderin! Thank you!

One thing I have to say is good thing they clean the blood before they transfer it to someone else!!! No offense but damn. That would be like getting Superman's blood. LOL

Thanks. Whoever gets my blood will recover quickly I hope.

Have you looked into digestive enzymes - they can make a terrific difference to how much of the food you consume you actually utilise.

Thanks for the heads up. I will definitely check them out.

u know.. u got a giant pixil stuck to ur right tri.. might wanna have that thing looked into.

Every time I post a pic it always comes up. Not sure why?

[thunderin]

Something's working right. My weight is up to 104kg, and my recovery time is so fast now. I had to cut back on the calories as I just simply felt sickly full all the time, not to mention the "you look pregnant jokes from my wife."

I've found that if I go over 20iu's ed of slin, say 30-45iu's, I feel so damn tired. Guess all my blood is near my stomach helping to transport nutrients?

I'm finally beginning to understand my muscles and feel them contract to the point of strong pain when I slowly and strictly do all my movements in the gym.

Want to know what else? For the first time in a long time, my shoulders, elbows and all my joints for that matter feel wonderful. I know my muscles are stronger than my ligaments and tendons. Using less weight for very slow (12-15 second count reps) and strict reps is allowing my body to heal.

Striving for the next level.

Train safe, train smart, train for a lifetime.

[thunderin]

Double post

[taiboxa]

as for the digestive enzymes, you could just incorporate some high quantites of yogurt which in turn increases the amount of good bacteria in the digestive system to aid in digestion.. works very very well.

[NotSmall]

as for the digestive enzymes, you could just incorporate some high quantites of yogurt which in turn increases the amount of good bacteria in the digestive system to aid in digestion.. works very very well.

To the best of my understanding yoghurt can work well as a cheap probiotic and help keep a healthy gut but it won't do the same job as digestive enzymes - two different things from what I can gather. Mallet has written some fantastic articles on digestive health on ukiron, I have started following less than half of the things he recomends and I feel so much better and less bloated for it.

[taiboxa]

To the best of my understanding yoghurt can work well as a cheap probiotic and help keep a healthy gut but it won't do the same job as digestive enzymes - two different things from what I can gather. Mallet has written some fantastic articles on digestive health on ukiron, I have started following less than half of the things he recomends and I feel so much better and less bloated for it.

see i have read write ups on the otc basic digestive enzymes you get from health food stores.. and the only time they are of any benefit is say when your on anibiotics and you killing off the good bacteria of your digestive track.. so beats me.

[NotSmall]

see i have read write ups on the otc basic digestive enzymes you get from health food stores.. and the only time they are of any benefit is say when your on anibiotics and you killing off the good bacteria of your digestive track.. so beats me.

I could be wrong mate but I think that is more applicable to probiotics - they are what is supposed to "restock" your healthy bacteria that antibiotics destroy.
From what I can gather digestive enzymes are essential in the proper digestion of our food, they are supposed to be partly produced in our bodies and partly from the food we eat but because of the way our food is produced our modern day diets are almost completely devoid of certain enzymes which leads to all sorts of problems - lactose intolerance, gluten intolerance, various allergies etc - so it is beneficial to supplement especially when we are expecting our bodies to absorb considerably more than the average human.

[taiboxa]

I could be wrong mate but I think that is more applicable to probiotics - they are what is supposed to "restock" your healthy bacteria that antibiotics destroy.
From what I can gather digestive enzymes are essential in the proper digestion of our food, they are supposed to be partly produced in our bodies and partly from the food we eat but because of the way our food is produced our modern day diets are almost completely devoid of certain enzymes which leads to all sorts of problems - lactose intolerance, gluten intolerance, various allergies etc - so it is beneficial to supplement especially when we are expecting our bodies to absorb considerably more than the average human.

aye i think ur on to something.

[ginkobulloba]

I take digestive enzymes with at least 3 or 4 meals a day, and normally I take one pro-biotic pill per day (same as yogurt) and it has definitely improved my digestion and ability to break down proteins, etc. You get more out of the food you eat.

[ginkobulloba]

No, that's not true dude, they really help in normal digestion. Especially if you're a bodybuilder eating shit tons of protein, etc.

[finny]

Yes, digestive enzymes are the ones you need. It's good to buy the 'full spectrum' that cover all food groups. Especially usefull on a bulk, when eating more food.

I buy my protein with proteaze digestive enzyme - for digestion of protein.

As said, probiotics are used to restore 'balance' in your gut. I drink homemade kefir for that.

[NotSmall]

Yes, digestive enzymes are the ones you need. It's good to buy the 'full spectrum' that cover all food groups. Especially usefull on a bulk, when eating more food.

I buy my protein with proteaze digestive enzyme - for digestion of protein.

As said, probiotics are used to restore 'balance' in your gut. I drink homemade kefir for that.

I use Udo's digestive enzymes, they're full spectrum ones like you say, I also use Udo's probiotics and "Beyond Greens" cos I don't really eat any veg - Dr Udo makes a packet off me!

[KZRSOIZE]

Looking forward to reading your log......looking great...

[PT]

you look good bro. have you lived in korea long?

[thunderin]

you look good bro. have you lived in korea long?

Thanks. Quite some time. When I first arrived here I was getting 1200 WON per US$. No luck getting that now.

This place has its ups and downs, but overall, I like it here.

[thunderin]

I reconstitute my Lr3 IGF-1 with an NaCl solution 100mcg/mL, and I rconstitute my HGH with sterile water 10iu/mL.

I only reconstitute enough for 3 days at a time so no need for any preservatives or BA.

By using my Humapen and Novapen cartridges, I do not lose anything when reconstituting or injecting. Moreover, the gauge of the replaceable needle tips is only 31 gauge by 1cm in length. Believe me, you cannot even feel it. And, I get exact doses with the dial-in injection volume button on these.

See the photos below.

[jerseyboy]

Welcome back buddy.

[thunderin]

Thanks, glad to be back.