HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ

[PJCSTRONG]

If anyone can help answer this I would really appreciate it. 4000 IUS, 1ML, .3ml slin pin. How much is each tick? I want to ensure I am dosing correctly. Great write up!

[Kate1983]

My partner was taking trenbolone and now that had finished he's injecting pregnyl one every 5 days and he's says he has to do this 3 times so 15 days. He then says he will take tamoxifen for a month.
The thing is while he was on the steroids he became angry and I mean really Angry. He's been really out of character even now they are finished and he's taking the pregnyl(only one dose another due probably tomorrow). Anyway he says he's not thinking straight and after 17 years together he had finished with me. This it out of the blue but I can't blame what he's been taking as he may have done it anyway. But I have read lots about people changing being angry etc....... The reason I'm posing on here is because I want advice. Is it common to still be aggressive not thinking he straight not knowing what he wants while using pregnyl for PCT and how long could it be before his system goes back to normal??
This is his first time on steroids and says he's never doing it again as they are not for him.
Your advice would be appreciated

[jolter604]

I ordered a 10,000 iu kit because they were out of 5,000.my question is if I mix it up and use it over a 5 month period do I need to refrigerate before or after 90 days ?

[jackfrost88]

Why does this thread advocate using it as a PCT, when the majority of the info I have been reading said to only use it on cycle and stop afterwards? Very confusing.

[Back In Black]

Why does this thread advocate using it as a PCT, when the majority of the info I have been reading said to only use it on cycle and stop afterwards? Very confusing.

Because this thread is 8 years old and things change over time.

[jackfrost88]

Because this thread is 8 years old and things change over time.

Thanks didn't the post date. Maybe someone should update it or remove it because the info is the opposite of what people advocate now haha

[Saluki]

Why does this thread advocate using it as a PCT, when the majority of the info I have been reading said to only use it on cycle and stop afterwards? Very confusing.

It revitalizes the testicles, albeit artificially, however, it also suppresses the NATURAL production of test, which is the main purpose of PCT.

[blackj]

hello,

i have a question about hcg

HCG comes with Bacteriostatic Water or just sterile water ?

is there any kind of HCG that comes with Bacteriostatic Water ? im asking this because i cant find Bacteriostatic Water in my country!

thanks in advance

[EasyDoesIt]

hello,

i have a question about hcg

HCG comes with Bacteriostatic Water or just sterile water ?

is there any kind of HCG that comes with Bacteriostatic Water ? im asking this because i cant find Bacteriostatic Water in my country!

thanks in advance

I have not seen hcg come with bacteriostatic water. But don't use the sterile it has a short life of a couple days max even after refrigerated.

[s4nchez]

Great post thank you !

[blackj]

Hey guys

Is it OK to add 2-3ml back water to the same hcg vial and use it multiple times ? Or should we draw back after reconstitution and fill an empty sterile vial?
''Multi dose vial'' not written on the hcg vial!

And i have a question about the injection water
Can we use a vitamin b like neurobion (b1,b6,b12) that contains benzyl alcohol in it instead of bac water ? Any vitamin b that has benzyl alcohol in it considered as bac water ?

Thanks in advance

[numbere]

Hey guys

Is it OK to add 2-3ml back water to the same hcg vial and use it multiple times ? Or should we draw back after reconstitution and fill an empty sterile vial?
''Multi dose vial'' not written on the hcg vial!

And i have a question about the injection water
Can we use a vitamin b like neurobion (b1,b6,b12) that contains benzyl alcohol in it instead of bac water ? Any vitamin b that has benzyl alcohol in it considered as bac water ?

Thanks in advance

If you're using ampules then store all the reconstituted hcg in syringes. Ampules shouldn't be reused.

Vials have a rubber stopper and can be drawn from multiple times.

That b12 should work fine.

[blackj]

If you're using ampules then store all the reconstituted hcg in syringes. Ampules shouldn't be reused.

Vials have a rubber stopper and can be drawn from multiple times.

That b12 should work fine.

Its vial but not mentioned "multi dose vial" on it!

So if I wanna store 5000 ius in syringes I should use 10 syringes to get 500 ius for each ? Syringes are plastics ! So its not a problem to keep reconstituted hcg like 30 days in syringes?

I don't have b12 I have neurobin (b1+b6+b12) that has benzyl alcohol in it ! Is it work too?

Thanks for Ur answer

[numbere]

Its vial but not mentioned "multi dose vial" on it!

So if I wanna store 5000 ius in syringes I should use 10 syringes to get 500 ius for each ? Syringes are plastics ! So its not a problem to keep reconstituted hcg like 30 days in syringes?

I don't have b12 I have neurobin (b1+b6+b12) that has benzyl alcohol in it ! Is it work too?

Thanks for Ur answer

Vials have a rubber stopper that enable them to be drawn from multiple times.

Yeah that will work because 5000/500 = 10. IMO you would be better off using 250IU twice per week.

Syringes are made from polypropylene which is a thermoplastic polymer. It will only degrade when exposed to UV radiation and heat over 160° F.

Yes that solution should work fine.

Some of the information in the OP is outdated. If you haven't already then you should read the attached thread below.

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

[applips]

Great Info thanks for that

[blackj]

thanks for your answer numbere !

[Back In Black]

Ok, I'll try again

Run your Hcg during your cycle not after.

The link I gave you explains what you need to know

[devil-1986]

Ok, I'll try again

Run your Hcg during your cycle not after.

The link I gave you explains what you need to know

why u dont understand ?!!!! i have hcg in 5000 iu in 1 amp

[Back In Black]

why u dont understand ?!!!! i have hcg in 5000 iu in 1 amp

READ THE LINK I GAVE YOU IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

Let me make it a bit easier for you, this is straight from the thread I have referred you to

How To Properly Mix hCG

As you all know, hcg comes in a powder form and needs to be mixed with bacteriostatic water in preparation for injections. In this example, we will use a 5,000 unit vial. Obviously, you need to observe the math and adjust according to how you want your hCG concentrated per CC.

Step 1: Transfer 5 CC's of bacteriostatic water into the vial containing your hCG powder. No more than 3 CC's at once.

Step 2: After each bacteriostatic water transfer, you'll need to draw out just as much air to release pressure.

Step 3: Swirl the mix gently and keep it in the refrigerator.

Once you've completed your mix above, you now have a 5,000 iu vial that contains 1,000 iu's of hCG for every CC. So if you want to shoot 250iu, that would be 0.25 CC/ML. Or 25 units on a slin pin. I personally use injectable B12 to mix my hCG. Helps me get both B12 and hCG in one shot.

[devil-1986]

READ THE LINK I GAVE YOU IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

Let me make it a bit easier for you, this is straight from the thread I have referred you to

How To Properly Mix hCG

As you all know, hcg comes in a powder form and needs to be mixed with bacteriostatic water in preparation for injections. In this example, we will use a 5,000 unit vial. Obviously, you need to observe the math and adjust according to how you want your hCG concentrated per CC.

Step 1: Transfer 5 CC's of bacteriostatic water into the vial containing your hCG powder. No more than 3 CC's at once.

Step 2: After each bacteriostatic water transfer, you'll need to draw out just as much air to release pressure.

Step 3: Swirl the mix gently and keep it in the refrigerator.

Once you've completed your mix above, you now have a 5,000 iu vial that contains 1,000 iu's of hCG for every CC. So if you want to shoot 250iu, that would be 0.25 CC/ML. Or 25 units on a slin pin. I personally use injectable B12 to mix my hCG. Helps me get both B12 and hCG in one shot.

thank u my friend , i have a one more question , we use hcg on cycle for preventing testicle atrophy is that ok ? but why we shouldent use nolva and clomid while on cycle for preventing from the other problems which maybe occur due to using testosterone ?

[Mr.BB]

why u dont understand ?!!!! i have hcg in 5000 iu in 1 amp

Lighten up... There is no HCG in 250 or 500ui, you have to split the 5000ui like explaind above and in the link provided.

Also you need bacteriostatic water, the water that comes with it its not bacteriostatic.

Taking a full 5000ui can desensitize your testis to HCG and LH, which can be a major problem trying to recover.

[EasyDoesIt]

Lighten up... There is no HCG in 250 or 500ui, you have to split the 5000ui like explaind above and in the link provided.

Also you need bacteriostatic water, the water that comes with it its not bacteriostatic.

Taking a full 5000ui can desensitize your testis to HCG and LH, which can be a major problem trying to recover.

I hate to even bring this up and confuse but: The last few bottles of 5000iu HCG I bought would not hold 5cc bac water. It wasn't the first time it happened to me. The last bottle HCG I had looked really small and I knew it would not hold 5cc's bac, so anymore I just use 2-1/2cc of bac. water just to be safe and cut injection in half. I just load 2-1/2cc's bac water and inject 1.25iu. (Still same hcg dosage) Hopefully that isn't going to confuse anyone. I only brought it up because I am sure others have run into same situation.

[Mr.BB]

I hate to even bring this up and confuse but: The last few bottles of 5000iu HCG I bought would not hold 5cc bac water. It wasn't the first time it happened to me. The last bottle HCG I had looked really small and I knew it would not hold 5cc's bac, so anymore I just use 2-1/2cc of bac. water just to be safe and cut injection in half. I just load 2-1/2cc's bac water and inject 1.25iu. (Still same hcg dosage) Hopefully that isn't going to confuse anyone. I only brought it up because I am sure others have run into same situation.

I only get pregnyl in ampules, need to tranfer it to sterile vial.

[szteroidbeadas]

Which is the cheapest and best HCG currently in the market? Pregnyl, ovidac, hucog?

[vulfor]

On a test only 12 week cycle, would it be beneficial to use 750 (3x250) iu of hcg instead of 500 every week assuming the rest is thrown in trash? (if its refrigerated in ba water it only lasts for 2 months?)
After reading threads I see many people recommending hcg even for test only cycles, but I was told by few people that hcg is not needed at all on test only cycles, because theres no 19nor steroids involved?

[numbere]

On a test only 12 week cycle, would it be beneficial to use 750 (3x250) iu of hcg instead of 500 every week assuming the rest is thrown in trash? (if its refrigerated in ba water it only lasts for 2 months?)
After reading threads I see many people recommending hcg even for test only cycles, but I was told by few people that hcg is not needed at all on test only cycles, because theres no 19nor steroids involved?

You can run 250IU three times a week if you like, but Imo it's overkill unless it makes you physically feel better than using it twice a week.

Hcg reconstituted with bacteriostatic water will last for at least three months before it begins to degrade.

Hcg reconstituted with bacteriostatic water does not go bad, it looses potency which can be compensated for by taking 10% after the first three months.

Hcg is necessary for all cycles because it plays a pivitol role in the synthesis of other hormones.

Please read the attached thread below.

hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.

[vulfor]

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Thanks! Will definitely run hcg when it's time for it.
The reason why I asked if 750iu would be beneficial is that i would have been left with majority of the 2nd 5000 iu hcg contents that I would have to throw away (time between cycles) . Can I get away with buying just 1 5000iu pack and do 400iu a week (200iu 2x/week)?

[numbere]

Thanks! Will definitely run hcg when it's time for it.
The reason why I asked if 750iu would be beneficial is that i would have been left with majority of the 2nd 5000 iu hcg contents that I would have to throw away (time between cycles) . Can I get away with buying just 1 5000iu pack and do 400iu a week (200iu 2x/week)?

I don't understand why you're complicating a simple process.

If you take 250IU twice a week for 12 weeks + the 2 weeks leading up to PCT then you need 7,000IU.

Just but one 5,000IU vial, one 2,000IU vial, 10-30ml of bacteriostatic water and a box of slin pins.

[NACH3]

Thanks! Will definitely run hcg when it's time for it.
The reason why I asked if 750iu would be beneficial is that i would have been left with majority of the 2nd 5000 iu hcg contents that I would have to throw away (time between cycles) . Can I get away with buying just 1 5000iu pack and do 400iu a week (200iu 2x/week)?

Never skimp on ancillaries! You'll end up paying more for your ancillaries and on cycle supports, spikes, barrels, vitamins, supps bloodwork, etc which most likely costs more than your gear(buying your ancillaries on a consistent basis)....

[r-e-l]

With the due respect to the experts and the infamaous-so-many-times mentioned article writer, i wonder why before this protocol did not exist? Also, why aas users of before never used SERMS or AI and apparently did not have any problem... I know that every suggestion and/or advice given here are with the best intention and with good arguments and logic, but still i would love to read a scientific article proving something rather than just (respectfully) well-written article.

I hope i do not offend someone in here... if so, my apologies.

[numbere]

With the due respect to the experts and the infamaous-so-many-times mentioned article writer, i wonder why before this protocol did not exist? Also, why aas users of before never used SERMS or AI and apparently did not have any problem... I know that every suggestion and/or advice given here are with the best intention and with good arguments and logic, but still i would love to read a scientific article proving something rather than just (respectfully) well-written article.

I hope i do not offend someone in here... if so, my apologies.

Hcg has been used as a treatment for hypogonadism since the 60s.

Early AAS who didn't use AIs and SERMs had many issues.

Specifically heart disease, blood clots and hypogonadism.

There are many scientific articles backing up the advice given in these forums.

You need to do research in a journal database for access to research articles.

[canadian77]

Hcg has been used as a treatment for hypogonadism since the 60s.

Early AAS who didn't use AIs and SERMs had many issues.

Specifically heart disease, blood clots and hypogonadism.

There are many scientific articles backing up the advice given in these forums.

You need to do research in a journal database for access to research articles.

I remember my very first cycle, didn't use HCG and my nuts shrank to the size of skittles. Once I hopped on Nolva after, I had testicular pain for weeks while they fired back up. From that point on, HCG every cycle.

[Obese]

This is extremely helpful information, thank you so much for making this.

[EDCG19]

Hmm, interesting thread and figured I'll ask in here
I've been recently told running HCG isn't really worth it since you do it all the time and it only helps with testicular size and keeping some of your natural test functioning. Sure it helps you recover quicker if you're going full pct but if you're bc is it really worth it?

[Back In Black]

Hmm, interesting thread and figured I'll ask in here
I've been recently told running HCG isn't really worth it since you do it all the time and it only helps with testicular size and keeping some of your natural test functioning. Sure it helps you recover quicker if you're going full pct but if you're bc is it really worth it?

It is used extensively by TRT patients worldwide who never PCT.

The link I quoted above has some relevant info.

[HULKSMASH252]

So, my question is... can i run hcg with out nolva or Clomid as a pct? I finished about two weeks ago a 500 test E and a 400 deca a week cycle. My nolva didnt arrive in time but i have hcg. Can i take the hcg by it self? You said better than nothing right? Sorry im new to this forum stuff but just looking for some advice... thanks!

[Senerr99]

Hcg stimulates LH so your testosterone goes up TEMPORARY!!! If it goes out of your system then your T level go down. You need to use serms Clomid + Nolva for the best recover. If you dont want to use both then try one of these but not HCG. HCG is good in in-cycle, it keeps the balls active

[kelkel]

Not at the same time for pct. Nolva is stimulatory to the HPTA whereas HCG over time is suppressive.

[Riggar]

Still Flat as fuck, Just finished 4 weeks pct Clomid ... Q Im considering another 4 week cycle of Nolva ... Need some solid advice Thx Riggar

[BenTren]

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